Next-gen must 'blow people away' says Witcher dev

Marcin Iwinski says platforms need to astonish gamers to succeed, calls for greater communication between creators and gamers.

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Sony and Microsoft must "blow people away" with their next-generation platforms if the systems are to succeed in a changed games market, according to CD Projekt Red CEO Marcin Iwinski.

Speaking with Edge, Iwinski said not only will the technology itself be important for the PlayStation 4 and rumored Xbox 720, but also the method of delivery, given how iOS and Android devices have "turned it all upside down."

"I'm really curious what the platform holders will deliver this generation because they really have to surprise and blow people away," Iwinski said. "The technology is one part, and then there's the method of delivery--this is the part I’m super-excited about. We have GoG.com and direct relations with consumers there, of course there’s Steam, and I'm really excited to see what will happen on the next-gen consoles, because iOS and Android consoles have completely turned it all upside down."

Iwinski also claimed that dialogue between creators and gamers will be instrumental to the success of the upcoming platforms. If there is a communication breakdown, game quality could suffer, he argued.

"Here’s the developer, here's the gamer--they should talk," Iwinski said. "If there's a chain of people in the middle that is kind of muffled. The more direct the communication, the better the games are. It's that simple."

Iwinski and CD Projekt Red are currently working role-playing games The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt for PC, PlayStation 4, and other "high-end" platforms and Cyberpunk 2077, which has been confirmed only for PC thus far.

Discussion

184 comments
griffy2013
griffy2013

I seriously don't care what a game looks like.  I want to be blown away by gameplay.

Justforvisit
Justforvisit

"Iwinski also claimed that dialogue between creators and gamers will be instrumental to the success of the upcoming platforms. If there is a communication breakdown, game quality could suffer, he argued.

"Here’s the developer, here's the gamer--they should talk," Iwinski said. "If there's a chain of people in the middle that is kind of muffled. The more direct the communication, the better the games are. It's that simple."

Dear CD Projekt Red: How do you manage to already BE so awesome, and then, with clever people like him, manage to get even MORE awesome? SERIOUSLY!! :D

CaptWaffle
CaptWaffle

It's been what, 7 years since the "current gen" started.....what they could affordably put together in a console then and what they could do now.... even if it's not top-flight-level PC quality, it'll still be one HELL of a jump over current consoles.  As someone who has really grown to like and stick with consoles, I'm pretty psyched that this 7-year-gap will lead to not a jump, but a LEAP.

SauhlGood
SauhlGood

well we already know we wont get "blown away" by next gen, they both admitted their new consoles wont be uber tech, they tryin to keep the price down... which means there will likely be pcs and parts on the market already par if not better than what both of the consoles are packing under the hood upon release

so_hai
so_hai

I don't even know what being "blown away" really means. You get the console home, play the lauch titles for a the first few days, get used them pretty quick, wait for the "real" good games to come out, play those for a week, and then start sepculating on PS5.

AlexFili
AlexFili

It goes both ways, we need fantastic games like Skyrim and Dishonored but we also need reliable hardware that doesn't break easily

icebox98
icebox98

They just don't get it.....

UrbanTracker
UrbanTracker

These guys have raised our expectations hugely, I just hope they can deliver, they are making all the right noises, if they can walk the walk like they did with the Witcher 2, they should be the new darlings of gamers worldwide. 

Dasim64
Dasim64

Good games will do more towards blowing me away than anything. But I do want to see better performance similar to what modern PC's are capable of. Better frame rates, less aliasing, longer draw distances, and enhanced textures are the main things I want to see. Graphically the current generation of games are sufficient. Some improvements would be nice but mostly I would like to see better overall performance. A game doesn't need hyper realistic graphics to be good. It just needs a great story and good design. Graphics just help that along. 

tightwad34
tightwad34

Video games are too popular to really be in any sort of serious jeopardy(love that gameshow). Sure it might take a little hit if the nextbox is what we think it is, but the PS4 will swoop in and grab a lot of the defectors. I have faith.

bkohary
bkohary

It appears the WiiU was fantastic at blowing.

gplayer5
gplayer5

they claim they want to communicate with gamers yet they ignore us when we try and tell them what we want. THEN, they do the opposite of what we tell them we want. 

Examples: 

Always online xbox 720 (gamers don't want but will probably happen anyways)

always online DRM 

crap loads of DLC *glares at EA*


kelborn3
kelborn3

I dont think the graphics are such a major factor. As it was mentioned before, publishers and game companies, need to refocus their games rather than polishing the same old shit with better graphics. Nobody complained about games and gameplay 10-15 years ago, and thats cause playing then meant fun either solo or multi. When a game is good u enjoy it at its fullest whether the graphics are good or not. Everything counts but most important factor is and always will be gameplay experience.  Even a game with awesome graphics can fail if the overall experience is shitty- classic example is ff online.  Best is to have a good game with awesome graphics and even better story and gameplay nobody can question that. But it seems kinda pointless to focus only on graphics when the rest is sucky...

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

We need more developers who are able to self-publish their games.

Not just for small indie games, big AAA games too.

As Iwinski says, there needs to be less of a barrier between devs and gamers.

EA, Activision, Ubisoft etc create such a barrier, where the wants and needs of shareholders are prioritized over those of devs and gamers. That needs to change. The big publishers need to get out of the way.

okassar
okassar

In before "(insert console here) is good enough for me and (insert complaint about MS/Sony/Nintendo) and (insert how cost effective and edgy you are) and there are plenty of good games and...and I will skip the stupid next-gen."

Oh wait

lhsjazzman
lhsjazzman

Always-on consoles are pointless for consumers, important to manufacturers and developers to protect their content from piracy.  That's it!  As others have said, PS3 is already online pretty much all the time.  Heck, you automatically log-in unless you haven't updated the firmware.  Unlike the old systems, people will be "turned off" from purchasing the new systems if they can't play games in single player or local co-op with the network turned off.

I will not be buying the new PS4.  PS3 is great.  It has a great blu-ray and the games are good.  If I want cutting-edge graphics, my computer already obliterates next gen consoles' abilities and if it doesn't, I spend a couple hundred on a new video card and then it's top trump again for another few years.  Consoles as a gaming method are outdated.  Developers should re-focus on PC gaming.  Have fun replying, fan boys.

sknight175216
sknight175216

Why is gaming never about games anymore? It's always about specs or social features.

Ghosthunter54
Ghosthunter54

Microsoft: Everyone wants always online consoles.

Players: None of us want always online consoles. 

Communications are apparently already fubar. 

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@AlexFili dishonored was a terrible game, seriously what are people smoking these days because I want some

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@UrbanTracker was witcher 2 anything like witcher 1, because I tried witcher 1 and got bored about 30 mins into the game and instantly said to myself "this game is shit". I would like to give 2 a try because it looks like it might be different though.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@gplayer5 of course always online xbox 720 will happen, this is microsoft we are talking about. they aren't happy charging members only for being able to use online multiplayer, they want to charge them to use the console now. stick with sony, they care for their customers more

icebox98
icebox98

@lhsjazzman  Developers should really concentrate on PC gaming and work out ways in which they can reduce piracy (like how Diablo 3 managed). i like the PC better because i dont only use it for gaming and multimedia but it also makes me some bucks, it can come along with me at the office + it looks less irritating to my girlfriend than the console which a lot of people in my area find a little weird

however, i would have loved it if they did a great job on the next gen consoles, just dont leave out the pc. without it, the industry might crash (most gamers play on pc than the console)

Mega_Skrull
Mega_Skrull

@lhsjazzman Sorry but you're no one to say what developers should focus on. Even though you started making points, you ended up sounding like a fanboy yourself with your last lines

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@lhsjazzman Unfortunately for people like us that will not happen. So our only hope is that the next consoles take a big step forward and allow a better system for porting games to the PC . Or because next gen is very much PC like in terms of specs maybe devs can develop on the PC and then port to console. Always on is not just for publishers and manufacturers.. A lot of network and infrastructure could allow new features while playing games that we have not even thought of yet. The only thing that sucks is if they stop are game mid playthrough because your internet connection bogs down or shuts down for a period of time. If they can customize it so just the network features disable that is the ideal solution. 

arcangelgold
arcangelgold

@lhsjazzman I don't play many games on cpu but I agree with the basis of your post. The console devs concentrate only on how they can limit your use of your system and digital property and their money and that's all they care about. I also won't be buying PS4. They spy on my business far too much and I don't like it one bit and I'll be damned if I am going to let them get more nosey .

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@sknight175216 Well specs are important to take gaming to the next level. I dont want to buy another console for the hell of it.. I want a more powerful machine that can take us to new places. Graphics and effects that could create new perspectives and take us to places that games have never been before. Also the development tools for next gen consoles should be a lot easier to use thus hopefully staying at the 60$ price point for a new game. Paying 70$ for a new game is going to turn off a lot of people especially if they make it so used games will not be an option. I am skeptical that these machines are a big enough upgrade but time will tell.

arcangelgold
arcangelgold

@sknight175216  Amen! I had better games 10 years ago. Graphics not so good lol but still I felt more involved more happy, much better then. 

Salt_AU
Salt_AU

@Ghosthunter54 I want an online console.  May as well do it now because that's where its heading, like it or not.  Almost everything will require an online connection in the years to come, from your everyday shopping, household appliances, entertainment even when you take a crap on the toilet. 

Brotelho
Brotelho

@Aaronp2k @AlexFili Dishonored was a pretty damn good game considering it's a new IP that launched at the tail end of a console generation. Dishonored had me hooked for a good 3 weeks. I think the people who were disappointed by it thought it was going to be something else. The early trailers didn't really help that impression. Or you rushed through it not paying any mind to the back stories or the environment except for 'that's where I've got to go' rather than finding appreciation for it. It was and is different compared to a lot of games out there and that's what I enjoyed most about it.

UrbanTracker
UrbanTracker

@Aaronp2k  Well personally I liked witcher 1, though the game was a bit slow paced and the combat system needed improvements,. The witcher 2 was actually quite a leap from the witcher 1 both graphically and gameplay wise, combat was a lot better, as far as the story is concerned I happen to like geralt's saga so that's my personal opinion, but you should definitely give Witcher  2 a try, hopefully you'll like it. But make sure you buy from gog.com 'coz that way you'll be directly supporting these guys.   

icebox98
icebox98

@tightwad34 @Dasim64 i have to admit, a good looking game without good story and gameplay is crap but like it or not graphics really add up to the enjoyment of a game. no matter how good the story is, if its physics, realism and art is similar to a 1998 release, tell me you would play such a game three times more and enjoy as much as playing something with the same good story plus modern graphics, art and everything (BF3 looking like doom 1995,.......not so amazing)

let the new consoles be advanced machines capable of running mind blowing graphics so that the producers make mind blowing games with mind blowing stories to make an effing mind blowing hell of a gaming year worth investing on

Errorcutive
Errorcutive

Well at least pc will be still having pirated game, that way we are still free from the control on console user

modernsocks
modernsocks

@Meteor7 @sknight175216 Sadly, a lot of gamers as well. A former "friend" of mine would play games solely as a means of meeting guys. "Safe" socializing; no need to worry about appearance or being interesting in any way.

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@Salt_AU @Ghosthunter54 yeah I agree the only issue is some people do not have reliable connections out in rural area's. If you live in Urban or Suburban area's this should not be an issue unless your financial situation dictates that internet is to expensive.. but if that is the case then the new consoles would be to expensive for you as well.

bouff
bouff

@Salt_AU @Ghosthunter54 how about the people who don't have internet (can't afford it or not available)? my PS3 is always on-line unless there is maintenance on PSN, or there is a bad line so my internet drops out or maybe I can't afford it this month. If my PS3 had "need internet to function" I would have f^ck all to do except play shitty games on FB (and im not doing that!!)

kellian1
kellian1

@Salt_AU @Ghosthunter54 Yeah that isn't going to happen anytime soon. In spite of what many of you might think there is still nearly 20% of the population without internet access. Why would we need our appliances online? For what purpose?

Furthermore, as someone who has been online since the old AOL days, I really don't need everything to be online, it's becoming overkill at this point, especially consoles. I don't buy console systems to be "connected" to the net, that's why I have a computer. I buy them to actually play games and that's all I need and want it to do.

I also want to go online when I want to go online, I don't need or want to be connected 100% of the time, its useless and serves no purpose at all other than for companies to keep track of what I'm doing. No thanks.

petez34
petez34

@Brotelho @Aaronp2k @AlexFili I played it, 27hours is my count, average paper-thin story. It had some good moments and in the end, I was like meh and shelved it. I couldn't be bothered with any dlc ppl will loved it, I'm sure of it.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@icebox98 I disagree. I still play final fantasy 7 even today, play for the perfect game do all the side quests and everything and still have fun and have you seen how awful the graphics are for that game now haha. also dark souls does not have brilliant graphics or even a very good story for that matter, but its one of the most fun, addictive and challenging games iv ever played. In fact I dare say its the best game iv ever played

icebox98
icebox98

@guitarist1980 @bouff @Salt_AU @Ghosthunter54 first of all, good Internet is expensive in some areas, be it urban or rural.

Games are just entertainment and i think its unfair to make someone spend more on something they have already bought. unless u live alone, $300 for one month of decent Home Internet connection is a lot of money to spend on games i already own so, No thank u to the always on-line console!

bouff
bouff

@guitarist1980 @bouff @Salt_AU @Ghosthunter54 the cost of a console for 5 years is a lot cheaper than the cost of the internet for the same amount of time... (I payed £250 for my PS3 5 years ago, and I've spent about £1500 on internet bill). I don't need a load of games for the console to work, so buying two or three games is enough for some people to keep them entertained (assuming they buy games with a good length and re-playability). or just use it as a blu-ray player.

arcangelgold
arcangelgold

@kellian1 @Salt_AU @Ghosthunter54  I agree they are all spies. I blew up at Sony support by phone over their spying on me and my kids' consoles and told the lady it's flat out spying and should be criminal. I also said my family will NOT be buying Playstation 4 unless you get out of our machines and our business.