New Ultra Street Fighter 4 mode allows return of overpowered Sagat

Ultra Street Fighter IV to feature Edition Select Mode, which allows you to select balance rules from previous versions of the game.

Ultra Street Fighter IV will introduce a new mode that allows players to select which iteration of their character they want to play as.

Dubbed Edition Select Mode, players can select balance rules from all of the game's releases: Street Fighter 4, Super Street Fighter 4, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Ver. 2012, and Ultra Street Fighter 4.

The obvious highlight here is that players will, in this mode, be able to play the original Street Fighter IV Sagat--considered by many to be brutally overpowered. The character was nerfed in later revisions of the game, and the game's fighters will also receive another round of rebalancing as part of Ultra Street Fighter IV.

"In all the years that I've been playing through the SF4 series, I can't count how many times discussions on 'who the strongest character has been thus far' have come up among players both old and new," Capcom's Peter Rosas wrote on Capcom Unity.

"Seeing of how there was no actual way to measure whether vanilla SF4 Sagat was stronger than AE Yun, players would engage in long theoretical discussions with no way to figure out who was right."

"Well, time to change that in Ultra SF!"

Ultra Street Fighter IV will be released in June for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, and in August on PC.

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chev9324
chev9324

Here's another fact that fanboys are ignoring, Ono was put in the hospital because Capcom overworked him and all Capcom told him when he got back is get back to work. And you fanboys support.it.

chev9324
chev9324

Here's one of the many facts that fanboys are ignoring, two days before the announcement of this game Crapcom laid off a lot of Capcom US employees including the VP of Capcom US. And the fanboys here fully support them for it. So these fanboys have no problem sacrificing people's jobs for another update to a overrated, noob-friendly fighting game because those noobs that didn't give a shit about the genre before SFIV are not skillful enough to move on to real fighting games like SFIII and KOF 13. 


What's next, the FGC harassing female players and yelling out "rape that bitch" in MVC 3? Oh wait.
 

deadpen
deadpen

I want a Street Fighter All-Stars game.

MattPeters
MattPeters

Let me explain this to some of you not familiar with the FGC (Fighting Game Community).

Fighting games have a lot of replay value when they are good. It's common to find old games like SF II and 3rd Strike featured in tournaments with the more current titles.

They did make a new game, it was called Street Fighter X Tekken. There is a reason Super Street Fighter IV is always the main event, it's a well balanced game. It came out before Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and Street Fighter X Tekken even.


So to keep the game hype and interesting they add some stuff and we pay for it because we support the game and the addition. Street Fighter V isn't coming out until 2018 so be prepared for a Supra Street Fighter 4 Turbo HD Reload GOTY Edition. Just kidding, I believe they said Ultra will be the last installment (However the community manager said Arcade Edition was going to be the last, I suppose they were hoping X Tekken would have done better).


On topic tho? I'm pretty damn sure that tournaments will only allow characters selected on "Ultra" and the rest is for messing around.


As for people waiting to jump in at the end, now is the time. Invest in a fight stick and that thing will pay itself off in no time. Peace.

Hurvl
Hurvl

"Street Fighter 4, Super Street Fighter 4, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Ver. 2012, and Ultra Street Fighter 4" Man, Street Fighter 4 has more versions than some franchises has games in total.


"players would engage in long theoretical discussions with no way to figure out who was right" Out of context, that could describe almost any topic. People sure like to "discuss" things that can't be decided upon.

daikkenaurora12
daikkenaurora12

Can we get another Street Fighter game other than a rehash of IV?

Draken_Domingo
Draken_Domingo

HAH, that's actually pretty cool! I'd like to see how some matchups will play out with prenerf and postnerf characters, especially to see how Chun-li evolved over the course of SF4's history.

jhcho2
jhcho2

So instead of implementing further balances to moot arguments between which imbalanced character is more imbalanced, Capcom instead opted for the opposite

andres_ak47
andres_ak47

I care more for the removal of GFWL in RE5.

enoslives7
enoslives7

Crapcom is good at releasing the same game 146 times.

I will hold off until the SUPER MEGA ULTIMATE HYPER TURBO CHAMPION version comes out.

RossRichard
RossRichard

Never had issues playing against Sagat in SF4. Then again, I am a Zangief player.

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

Sagat was such a pain in vanilla Street Fighter IV online -__- then again Ryu in Super ((shivers))

Nathalmighty1
Nathalmighty1

That is too many versions of the same game. That is too many!

The_Micksta
The_Micksta

If enough people buy Ultra Street Fighter 4, will Yoshinori Ono make Street Fighter 5?!

riotinto876
riotinto876

Came here for the hate comments from people who don't even know what an FADC is on this announcement because "it's all the same", wasn't disappointed.

makryu
makryu

How about a new Megaman, Capcom?

Tanares
Tanares

Meh. Good Blanka players could easily counter him. That slide.

chev9324
chev9324

And this game is one of the reasons why Capcom is nearing bankruptcy. It's ironic how fanboys claim they love Capcom, and yet, they want to company to fail. 

I fear that once EA buys the Street Fighter series and does a far bigger raping of the series than Capcom, the fighting game community will bend down and chant, "MY ASSHOLE IS READY." Fanboyism is a disease. 

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

@chev9324  He can quit or retire any time he wants. He doesn't have to be with capcom. Ifune left capcom and he is making his own games as well. Ono could do the same if he wants. 

MethodManFTW
MethodManFTW

@chev9324  Not that you have ever been to a tournament but the atmosphere is so much better now.  The whole Cross Assault debacle did change the fighting game community as a whole.  Even stream monsters act much better for the most part.


And move on from Street Fighter IV to Street Fighter III?  That doesn't make much sense..  SFIII is basically dead at this point in the US...


King of Fighters is great but it has the worst netcode ever on consoles and the tournament scene is very weak for KoFXIII in the US right now..  So yeah have to have local competition..


Man, that crapcom thing was super clever though, good job dude, I'll have to steal that one.


Lastly, Christian Svensson leaving was his own idea..  It just happened to coincide with reorganization.


It sucks that people get laid off, but that happens everywhere, with Sony Santa Monica laying off a ton of employees recently and Take Two Games laid off pretty much the entire Irrational Games studio..  Games are definitely going through a transitional period.


chev9324
chev9324

@MattPeters"Street Fighter V isn't coming out until 2018"

And the reason why is that troll like you helped Crapcom successfully alienated fans from SF. And seeing you come off as knowledgeable, you're obviously ignoring the fact that Capcom laid off a lot of the Capcom US employees including the VP of Capcom US just two days before the announcement of this game. So you rather have Capcom sacrifice people's jobs for more rip-off updates to a mediocre fighting game?


I doubt you'll reply to this without trolling, seeing how the truth is something that you fanboys always ignore.

Draken_Domingo
Draken_Domingo

@jhcho2  Except it's just a game mode. There's already a huge changelog that was posted on Capcom Unity a while back.

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

@Nathalmighty1  nah. Imagine if there was 1 COD game that had a update every year. Since 2008. It would look similar. 

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@Nathalmighty1  It's namely for the fighter scene, gamers at EVO will eat this up and love it.

chev9324
chev9324

@The_Micksta Nope, only the low self-esteem FGC is buying the game, so it's not enough.

hikaruai
hikaruai

@riotinto876 naw Super was the only worthy one.  The rebalancing in AE was terrible...p.s. Focus Attack Dash Cancel, you don't know shit and you probably suck acting like you are better than other posters cus u know one game term

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@makryu  Mighty No.9, just as Evil Withnin is essentially Resident Evil 7 :)


Not published by Capcom but the original mind/s of those projects are involved.

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@chev9324  It's optional DLC, another upgrade dedicated to fighting game fans of the Street Fighter IV series.


Just as you knew nothing about Killer Instinct 2013, you know Zilch! Zilch, about Ultra &/ or the fighting game scene in the least.


I for one am buying this day one and gonna put loads of hours into online. You sir, should go back to your none fighting games.


Good day.

Gelugon_baat
Gelugon_baat

@chev9324  

Also, you are one to say that fanboyism is a disease when you are a Ninty fan yourself.

chev9324
chev9324

@bunchanumbers @chev9324 That's all you have say? Really? Man, not one of you fanboys have said nothing good in defense of Capcom, no wonder Capcom is screwed. Ono is the guy that brought SFIV together, and you practically have no appreciation for it. 

You people are not fans. Just admit it. 

chev9324
chev9324

@MethodManFTW @chev9324 I love how you ignored all the other Capcom US employees getting laid off from Capcom along with Sven just so you can make it seem like they "left on their own." And I also love the fact that you ignored Killian, Inafune, Mikami, and Platinum leaving all around the same time. 

Also, why are you ignoring the fact that SFIV is a simplified version of SFIII, and that the noobs that got into SFIV never heard of SFIII? 

That's typical of you people, ignore facts of a company that actually failing. Don't you care about Capcom?  

mike468
mike468

No they won't it's game breaking. It will be banned in tournament play.

It will be more for exhibition matches though.

chev9324
chev9324

@RSM-HQ @makryuAnd trolls like you fully support Capcom treating their employees like shit in order to get more updates to SFIV.

MattPeters
MattPeters

@RSM-HQ @chev9324 Haha, me too. I'll admit, that guy's comment was hilarious but the Street Fighter series is one I respect a lot. A super retro game gets remade and... Kicks major ass and arguably the best iteration yet. I dislike most of the Japanese developers these days but they did something right here, damnit!

chev9324
chev9324

@Gelugon_baat @chev9324The fact that you reacted twice to one post shows that, not only are you a GameSpot fanboy, but you're also a Capcom fanboy as well. And yeah, I am a Nintendo fan, not fanboy. So what's your point?

chev9324
chev9324

@bunchanumbers @chev9324@mellow09@Nathalmighty1Capcom Japan is the ones who calls the shots. They're primary a Japanese company. They're the ones that laid off the US employees. How sad are you fanboys when you people have to dodge every bit of facts to defend the actions that's bringing the company down? What the fuck are you people going to say when Capcom goes out of business? "Oh, it was the fans fault, not us fanboys."

chev9324
chev9324

@bunchanumbers @mellow09@Nathalmighty1 Capcom laid off alot of their Capcom US employees, then two days later they announce USFIV and you guys defend Crapcom for it. That right there is the definition of a apologist. 

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

@mellow09 @bunchanumbers @Nathalmighty1  apologists? Its something you will never understand. FGC people aren't the people who demand new games all the time. There's still a big Smash bros. Melee group. Its like if retro gaming met with esports and there you go. You get fans of a game that don't care what the rest of the gaming world thinks. If you don't like it you don't have to buy it. The game wasn't meant for you. 

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@chev9324 @RSM-HQ  You spout nonsense all over these games you don't even play. The way you speak about them and the companies is proof of your ignorance. I've also corrected many of your bull comments, with links on 'facts', which you fail to provide a note worthy correction or follow-up.


Overall you're only here to tick off investors who enjoy these franchises. You bring nothing but lies and narcissisitic rambles.


You clearly can't read if you thought I was defending Street Fighter X Tekken, or have any interest in that spin-off series. Then again you don't read?


Let alone, I favour Sony and Nintendo in gaming factor, also play P.C. from time, though I have no real issue with Xbox 1 it's a nice machine, just over priced and Kinnect seems like a novelty. & I play it at times. All of which I question if you have EVER.


But again like a troll you attempt on putting words in our mouths and don't stick with the subject. Ever, that you, yourself start.


In all I've lost interest in your personality disordered like mind-set. Enjoy trolling. I'm going back to discuss Shadow of the Beast with actual gamers.


Troll, your bridge lies west.

chev9324
chev9324

@RSM-HQ @chev9324A troll calling me a troll, pretty typical of a fanboy. Capcom not having only a 152 million dollars is not a fact? How so? You never explained. What I'm saying about Capcom that is "personal opinions"? You never explained. You come off as knowledgeable then why are you ignoring facts that was widely reported? Let me guess, you're just going to call me a "troll" even though you have no proof that I'm trolling? 


The only troll here is you as you're purposely ignoring facts, insulting me for lack of a better argument (or lack of a argument in general), just so you can hustle people into buying a cheap cash-in. And what does Strider have to do with anything, and Killer Instinct? You're obviously not only a Capcom, but you're also a M$ fanboy as well. 


And how am I a "white knight"? Oh wait, never mind, you were just trolling. 


Now go take the walk of shame like every fanboy before. What's sad is that you must believe that you convinced new players with your ignorance, damage control, and lies about Capcom in order to hustle those people into buying into Capcom's bullshit. I bet you were confident of SFXT selling very well when you defended SFXT LOL.

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@chev9324 You say "facts" alot from your personal opinions, and theories. Just as you did through the Strider review. 


Troll all you want over Capcom, some of us actually like playing Street Fighter and not just bash all Capcom IPs. Also if you have no source for the "152 million" in the bank so it's hardly a fact! Keep trolling, troll.



Also dood! At least I play the games I actually comment on PSN ID- RSM-HQ. & I've already read you're a dedicated 'white knight' Nintendo user and nothing more so you're "facts" on Strider/ Killer Instinct/ SFIV series is a huge pile.


Move along people let it crawl back under its bridge.

mike468
mike468

Older versions of the game will be banned in tournament play. It's not just a matter of of Sagat being OP, also stuff like Akuma's 100% damage combo off a counter hit.

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@mike468  If you read the article you can change which version for each character. Not to mention Ultra will have new balance versions of each fighter. To say "it will be banned" is a tad early to state. Let's see the changes once finalised. 


They can always ban the top tier versions of each character.

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@chev9324 Do you not read? You replied to me telling Makryu about Mighty No.9 & Evil Within. They have nothing to do with Capcom.


You replied to that, 


Yeah, not Capcom num-nuts >_>


& again you don't bring back a worthy reply so as such I take my leave. Perhaps talk with a actual gamer that I will. Not some simple troll.


Also I went upon myself to flag you for swearing, if you can't keep your cool, it shows your full of hot air.


Which many of us already knew

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@chev9324 Also if I was such a Capcom fanboy why on earth am I recommending Mighty No.9 & Evil Within?


Do you have any clue that they're not under Capcoms wing, or are you simply slow?

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@chev9324 You haven't been a gamer long have you? Otherwise you'd know Street Fighter II had.


Street Fighter II World Warriors/ Champion Edition/ Turbo/ Hyper Fighter/ New Challengers/ Super II Turbo/ Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Street_Fighter_video_games#Street_Fighter_II_series


As you love to state, that's a fact!


Also as facts go. Ultra is DLC! That's right it's not only on disc, if you own any version of Street Fighter IV you can download Ultra as a add-on pack.


Chev, you are simply full of it & don't get Capcom, granted Resident Evil is not in a good situation, but gamers like me enjoy other entries in Capcoms library. 


Get lost if you have no clue! Or at least fix that flawed logic. Troll you welcome for my "facts".

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@chev9324 If you have no source for Capcom "shutting down" or its massive looses it's hardly a fact. 


Reliable link or get lost on them "facts" you spout! Which solely come from your Potato hole ;)

MattPeters
MattPeters

@chev9324 I guess I never cared to notice. Buy a copy, the game is good. That's all I'm concerned about these days.

chev9324
chev9324

@MattPeters @chev9324@RSM-HQ Capcom has only 152 million dollars due to bad decisions like USFV. And you keep ignoring that and trolling because??? Yeah, that's what I thought. 

MattPeters
MattPeters

@chev9324 @MattPeters@RSM-HQ I don't know why but you amuse me, chev9324. Are you a stock broker or a gamer? I don't even care for Marvel vs. Capcom 3 or the current state of Resident Evil if it matters. The Street Fighter series has been great, hence all the updated versions...

I like the game, I don't know what else to say. I wish success for the company making it but I'm not really interested in their other projects if that at least shows I'm not a total fanboy. Fanboy of Street Fighter? Clearly

I have news for you though. It was 9 years before they made the jump from Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike to Street Fighter IV and it's going to be another 9 when they release Street Fighter V. People keep playing the game that is the best of the genre, it doesn't matter how "new" or flashy it is. You should respect a good game. Sorry if Capcom is ass.

chev9324
chev9324

@MattPeters @chev9324@RSM-HQ So much bullshit in one post. No matter how lengthy it is, you're still ignoring facts, trolling, and insulting. 

I am not going to mention the facts about Capcom. I know you are aware of them so you're obviously ignoring them to try to hustle people into buying them in support of a evil Capcom that's only has 152 million dollars in the bank. 

MattPeters
MattPeters

@chev9324 @MattPeters@RSM-HQ Huh?! YOU WANNA FYTE, LESS GO! :Rolls up sleeves:

Capcom has all the most popular fighters in it's genre... If fighters have any life in them, it's thanks to this company.

It's a competitive game and they didn't bend over backwards to make it anything else. This is likely why Street Fighter X Tekken didn't take off. The community wasn't having that. 

A lot of game developers are following that Call of Duty trend with load outs and customization (casual play) which can have a negative effect depending on the game. Even Halo and Gears, both shooters, suffered from load outs and special abilities. Those games used to be heavily focused on weapon control whereas Call of Duty didn't. A core element was lost.


Fighting games aren't for everyone, it's for the elite. The only way it could appeal to more people is by being easier, which is a terrible reason. I think anyone is capable of playing well in that game but if you want to win any matches, your performance actually matters...

chev9324
chev9324

@MattPeters @RSM-HQ@chev9324 Haha, I got to admit, you fanboys are a embarrassment. Capcom is going to shut down and all you can say is "SF is the best" as a lame-ass defense.. 

chev9324
chev9324

@Gelugon_baat @chev9324 You're making up a bunch of facts to excuse your behavior? What's next, you don't see yourself as a kiss-ass when you defend every crap on GameSpot? Oh wait. 

Gelugon_baat
Gelugon_baat

@chev9324 

You don't realize the irony in your statement, that's my point. ;)

And sure, make some convenient twists with gaming lingo to defend yourself. How expedient.