Monthly Wii production tops 2.4M

Reggie Fils-Aime tells the Los Angeles Times that holiday supply of popular console will be 50 percent higher than last year; Wii Fit sales now above 3 million.

Once the election season (finally) ends next week, the US will turn its attention to a less contentious ritual: the annual mass acquisition of holiday gifts. For the past two years, one of the most coveted items on people's Christmas, Chanukah, and Kwanzaa shopping lists has been the Nintendo Wii. Nearly impossible to find in the days after its November 19, 2006, launch, the family-friendly console was also in scant supply last year. The shortage led to rumors that Nintendo was deliberately redirecting Wii shipments to territories with currencies stronger than the sagging US dollar.

Now, on the cusp of the 2008 consumer season's climax, Nintendo is assuring its American customers that the Wii will be in ample supply this year. "We're now producing 2.4 million units a month worldwide," Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime told the Los Angeles Times. "Last year, we made 1.6 million a month. So we've made a 33 percent increase."

The outspoken executive put that figure in perspective by making a dig at Sony's PlayStation 3. "One of our competitors projects they will sell 10 million consoles worldwide this year. For us, that's three months of production," bragged Fils-Aime. "We're producing an unprecedented level of hardware to try to meet demand."

Fils-Aime also said that Nintendo was upping production of Wii Fit, its popular balance-board-based fitness game. "At this point, only about 3 in 10 stores will have Wii Fit in stock," he said. "We are dramatically increasing shipments of Wii Fit. We've sold somewhere around 3 million units. The demand has been so brisk that it has been difficult to catch up. The other challenge is that we're seeing demand from a whole new market. Of the people who stood in line in New York, 60 percent were working women. This is a demo[graphic] that arguably has never bought a video game, and they're buying it for themselves."

The executive also offered some somewhat obvious advice on buying a Wii. "Look at retailer circulars. Go to their websites. We're flowing products into stores on a very regular basis. Once you see it on the shelf, you ought to buy it. While we're bringing 50 percent higher level of supply into the market this holiday, we don't know if the demand will be even higher than that."

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jayelcey
jayelcey

nintendokid Posted Oct 29, 2008 3:12 pm PT "Video games ARE mainstream entertainment and everyone has been exposed to it!" Television is mainstream. Movie theaters are mainstream. McDonald's is mainstream. How do I get there? Because people, no matter what race, gender, age, religion, ect. are all susceptible to take part in near-equally large numbers. Where there are large numbers, there is big money. Do you get it now? nintendokid: "I simply stated that video games have hit mainstream stride since PS1. And guess what, it did." Based on your definition of 'main stream,' video games reached that status long before PS1 was even thought of. Practically everyone I know has owned or been in a house that owned an Atari 2600...and it predates the PS1 by nearly 20 years. Everyone knew what video games were then, just as they do now. Fortunately, we now have companies like Nintendo that have reached out past children and males between adolescence and 35 years old. Finally the industry is reaching out, and haters like you just sit and cry about it because the latest Nintendo system can't play the exact same games that the other two major home consoles currently can play. Well, let me tell you this much: the Wii can emulate something like Halo much better than the 360 could emulate Wii Sports...right out of the box. Fortunately, Nintendo is a little more original than that. Finally, I'd like to point out one last thing. A lot of people here seem to whine and moan about Nintendo using franchise characters to release a broad array of games. They say Nintendo needs to be more 'original.' Mario Strikerz and Paper Mario and Mario Party and Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart have little in common with one another other than the franchise character's likeness. This might be tough for a few of you, but let's take a look at something and figure out some similarities between a few titles on other systems. What do MGS4, CoD4, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, God of War 3, GTA IV, Resident Evil 5, ect. all have in common other than being either top sellers or probably future hits on the respective systems that they will be released on? Gee...try and figure it out...and explain the originality in it.

Drz4tobate
Drz4tobate

hey guys!! well we gotta give it out to the Wii!! damn i dont know what people find in it but is selling more than crack on the streets..jejeje.. 4 kids and women is perfect because of the games they have but for hardcore players it just doesnt cut it.. well then let see how it goes during holidays.. nintendo is really getting ready for a fight.. Last year it was soldout every where!!

nintendokid
nintendokid

jayelcey: Video games ARE mainstream entertainment and everyone has been exposed to it! We all know what the sport of golfing is. Is it not mainstream just because the majority of golfers are rich folks? What about boxing? Is it not mainstream because the majority of fans are men and most boxers are black or Latino men? There are prevailing social and biological factors that cause us to prefer and do certain sports and forms of entertainment. This is a whole different theory that you are delving into. What we are discussing is whether or not video games are mainstream. Do women buy games? No, not really. Do women know what video games are? Yes, absolutely. The fact that women do not play or buy games for themselves is irrelevant to the degree of mainstream exposure. I never claimed that every social group and demographics likes and buys video games. I simply stated that video games have hit mainstream stride since PS1. And guess what, it did.

BLuFAlc0n
BLuFAlc0n

@coldreboot ok... the 360 have a price drop, and as I wrote before, the 360's are in their maximum peak, while the Wii and PS3 aren't yet. I can alrady say that the Wii, with the less technology, have won, because as you can see... the Wii never have a price drop yet, have they? And not all accesories are not out for the Wii yet, and so does the PS3. When the Wii have a price drop, it's guarranteed the Wii has won. The 360's has been out 1 year earlier than the Wii, but the Wii, simply became the fastest-selling console ever, and outsold the 360's. Let's face it, the 360 will never catch up to the Wii, believe it! Nintendo headed for the non-gamers and casuals, to break the line of non-gamers and gamers. That's why so far, there are hardly any strong Wii titles yet, because not everyone knows the Wii's maximum peak, and why the 360 got more games, is because it's been out earlier, and people have learned about it. Still, the Wii got some awesome games like SMG, Brawl, Twilight Princess, MP3, NMH and some casuals like Smooth Moves, Wii series, and most of the Wii games are casuals, soon enough the Wii will get strong titles as well like CoD5, GH:WT, RB2, The Conduit, Monster Hunter 3, Sin and Punishment 2, an announced Mario and Zelda game, and possibly more. The only reason why the 360 got more sales in softwarte games, is because it's been out earlier, therefore, there are more games made for the 360's and more games bought for it. But in hardware, the 360's are not close enough to the Wii. Still, what is the best-selling game for the 360? Halo 3? which sold 8.1M units, but did you know that the Wii's best-selling game, Wii Sports, sold about 25M units? Ok they might be bundles, but not in Japan or every single place. The 360's also got game bundles, but not close enough compared to Wii Sports. The second best-selling game for the Wii, is Wii Play, which sold 11.5M, which isn't a bundle, and still outselling Halo 3. Ok, I'll wait which will pass within 3+ years, at that point, the 360's will be then Declined and probably released a new console, while the Wii will be at it's maximum peak with improved graphics, gameplay, inovation, hardware and software. But we can all see that Wii are winning in this gen. Oh and about the 'kiddy' games... as I wrote as well, 'Casual' doesn't mean 'kiddy', SSBB was rated a 12+ not 3+, and I don't think Manhunt 2, The Conduit, Madworld, Disaster:Day of Crisis, and Monster Hunter 3 are 'kiddy'.

LosDaddie
LosDaddie

Awesome! I needed a second Wii anyway. thanks, Nintendo!! :D

Darth_Tyrranus
Darth_Tyrranus

You just had to be politically correct and throw Kwanzaa in there, didn't you Gamespot?

Great_Ragnarok
Great_Ragnarok

XXL2 a PC is a better investment by your own logic.

XXL2
XXL2

ppl shouldnt slate the wii because it doesn't have to proper title (like cod4 etc..) it is aimed at a different set of ppl - the casual or new gamer... imo nintendo have sensibly exploited a previously unexplorered sector of the market... which is a good thing, as it gets more ppl into gaming etc.. (and nintendo rake in the cash), but whilst i support nintendo in doing this i think its ludicrous ppl that say the wii doesnt have childish games, take for example super mario... i have lost count of how many mario games there have been... why don't they come up with something new!! and stuff like wii fit plz.. just go to a gym or join a sports club... that will be more sociable, probably more enjoyable and more beneficial... regarding the XBOX 360 it came out first in 2005, at present i see this console as the winner (despite being a PS3 fanboy :D) imho it has the games that i actually want to play, it has a better online service (tho the gui is appalling, and you have to pay for it) and it is not that much more expensive than a wii now.. regarding PS3: this console is not just a console but an investment... hence the 10 year plan... the PS3 has the hardware and the potential to outlast both of the other consoles, through firmware updates etc, it may be a bit behind with its online service but it will get there... the PS3 is also a blueray player and now offers VoD (like 360 i think) and you can now record TV on it... it is far more than a console you are paying for a blu ray player, free online service, with constant updates, a console, and now the ability to record tv etc, not to mention that you now have a constant psn across psp and ps3 and there is remote play... The PS3 has been disadvantaged as it was released last so it has had to play catch up...

jayelcey
jayelcey

What I don't understand most about this entire discussion is why people come in here and dis the Wii simply because it doesn't provide another platform to play GTAIV, FF13, CoD4, ect. The system sells like hotcakes, Nintendo is far richer than it has ever been, more people are gaming than ever before, and nothing is to be gained by constantly whining about a system that caters to a casual crowd as opposed to so-called 'hardcore' gamers. Do we need 3 identical systems to make people happy? I hardly think so. I don't see the point in owning both an X-Box 360 and a PS3 because both basically deliver the same experience. However, the Wii offers something completely new, and if that something new isn't appealing to you, then I'm not even sure why you'd read an article with Wii in the headline, much less sit here and rant about it. A Wii may be in my future, and it may not, so I do read about it. As far as owning both systems that play the same content (meaning X-Box 360 and PS3)...well, I'm happy with the one I chose, and until the other one gets innovative, I will be looking at and studying the Wii and its future more closely. I know it's unique and has potential beyond what the haters and fanboys are willing to acknowledge. Game companies will continue to support it as games cost way less to make for it, so even if a publisher sells only 1/3 the number of Wii software titles as a title it might sell on one of the 'powerful' systems, it probably still makes more of a profit because the production costs and risks are WAY lower. In the end, the gaming companies only want to make money, and I guarantee you that Sony and Microsoft would trade in their powerhouse machines for the Wii in a heartbeat if they got even half the profits Nintendo has achieved by reaching out to the masses, and their stockholders would approve.

Doug-Thompson
Doug-Thompson

Re: Xbox 360 has a good game lineup. True. My comment that ALL consoles need better games does sell the Xbox 360 short.

LindBergh2007
LindBergh2007

I have to say out of everyone's posts,coldreboot,nintendokid,Videodogg,Javier are all the only ones with common sense to see the Wii for exactly what it is: A gimmicky redesigned Gamecube for casual people that don't play games much, or know anything about them. First of all Reggie's boasting is absolutely arrogant,foolish and haughty. Does he really think that with a holiday season expected to be dark for retailers, with an economy in crisis and a collapsing U.S. software market that the Wii will still sell loads and loads of party games and more novetly concepts? The argument is pure and simple. The Wii is for kids, and people that don't care or know anything about games, Those are the people that have been buying the Wii and those are the people who will lose interest in it as the news of the economy gets worse and consumers lost interest in gaming. It's also amazing that mostly everyone here who boasted about the Wii last year have gotten tired of it and are complaining about it's lack of software which is the main reason why I avoided it. I don't see any killer app titles this season of any kind that would justify buying one this season even if it was an otherwise normal holiday season. And coldreboot is right. The accessories seem to be counting as software, it is easy to notice that Wii software hasn't really sold as strong as 360 software, only the software with accessories is the ones that have sold. I honestly don't think the Wii will be around much longer, if a crash does occur, then 360 will probably still be getting game releases every once in a while and Wii and PS3 won't get support anymore. The lack of games is what kills a console and as the U.S. 3rd party market continues to collapse and the developers shut down, there really wont be much left for more party support.

coldreboot
coldreboot

BLuFAlc0n wrote; "Now, people keeps using those excuces because they can't take that the Wii, has won the 7th gen home console wars. Because Nintendo learned their lesson from the Gamecube, not to focus much onto the 'kiddy' games." The Wii has won this generation console war? Wait, even better.... "Nintendo learned their lesson from Gamecube, not to focus much onto the 'kiddy' games." ???? I don't know where you've been but apparently the Magic 8 Ball your getting your information from is defective. I suggest you drill a hole in it, drink the liquid immediately and return it to the smoke shop you bought it from. Declaring a winner in the "console war" two years into the cycle is extremely premature given the cycles generally last 5+ years (Sony has already stated PS3 was designed with 10 in mind). You said yourself that the Wii and PS3 haven't hit their peak...but have already declared Wii the winner. I'd like to know how you ascertained that the Wii wins this generation...Magic 8 Ball again? You may also take note that with the price drop on the 360 its upped its sales by a large percentage, depending on if you believe Microsofts numbers. If the price drop has increased the 360's sales as reported, expect to see the gap between the 360 and Wii close this season. Irregardless if it does or not, explain to me why Wii software, with more consoles sold, sell less than 360 and PS3 software both? Lets also not forget how those numbers are tabulated. Software sold with Wii peripherals still counts on the Software tally even tho people may be buying the peripheral for the peripheral alone, so in actually, in pure Software terms, the Wii could sell half or less than half the amount of true Software as the 360 and PS3. How many third party developers do you think are going to be on board for that?, Zero. If and when the 360 passes Wii again I guess Microsoft wins this generation. How about we wait until the race is crossing the finish line in 3+ years to declare a winner. I'm not even going to dive into your comment about Nintendo not focusing on 'kiddy' games, thats an absolutely ridiculous statement. Your post isn't even one coherent thought.

BLuFAlc0n
BLuFAlc0n

Oh some 360/PS3 fanboys or Wii haters are hating the Wii, why... because they're "childish"??? "lack of 'hardcore' games", "graphics". I doubt that the Wii is childish, most of the titles are casual, but that doesn't mean 'kiddy'. The Wii is trying to focus on everyone, that's why it has an equal balance of casual/hardcore games, but they're mostly casual, they'll focus on hardcore gamers soon, I hope, starting with an announced new Zelda and Mario game. Still, the Wii got the best backward compatibility, compared to the 360's and PS3's, so if you have any games like Wind Waker or Ocarina of Time, or any GC games you like, play it. Lots of different range of age plays the Wii, because the Wii isn't a discriminating console. Also, people say that the Wii will never have the best version when it comes to cross-gen games because they have limitations. However, they were proven wrong within the release of "Guitar Hero: World Tour" and the Wii version being the best version, according to IGN. Wii haters have looked and said that the Wii is inferior compared to the 360/PS3. First, the Wii wasn't designed for that purpose and second, the Wii hasn't released it's full potential yet. The 360 feels like it's the best around now, because the 360 has reached that peak when they are in full potential. The Wii and PS3 hasn't released their full potential yet, soon enough the Wii and PS3 will released their highest Innovation power (Wii) and also Improved Graphics as Game Developers are lazy enough to use a PS2 graphic engine on Wii. Soon enough, Game Developers will learn their mistakes, but High Voltage Software are making an effort, and doing it right. The PS3 will also reached the peak of full use 50GB Blu-Ray, and it will reach the point when the graphic power surpasses the 360 by miles. The 360's, will then be worn out, having no choice but to release a new console. Now, people keeps using those excuces because they can't take that the Wii, has won the 7th gen home console wars. Because Nintendo learned their lesson from the Gamecube, not to focus much onto the 'kiddy' games. Now, the Wii became the fastest selling console ever, surpassing the PS2's (the best-selling console of all time). The bottom line is that I don't really see why people hates other consoles, gamers today should be thankful of what games are comming out now, not hating them, because these lot are what the gaming industries are working on, and will offer. I know that some people got their different taste of console and games, and with those reasons of not liking a console, I won't argue back. That's why people will like different consoles for different reasons, but using pathetic excuse like "childish", isn't a real excuse and "lacking of 'hardcore" titles is not on, and for that reasons, I will argue onto it. Don't you wii haters see, that the 360's are technically copying the Wii's "childish avatars" and attempting to be casual, but seriously, it's not on. Now, will Wii haters start to hate their consoles because they are copying the Wii, that's pretty much of a reason, NOT!

jayelcey
jayelcey

nintendokid Posted Oct 28, 2008 10:38 am PT "This gaming culture that you speak of already emerged and it did so during the PS1 era. It has already reached the pinnacle." How many women do you know went out and purchased a PS1 or PS2 for themselves? You are ignoring virtually 50% of the world's demographic by making your short-sighted and ill-conceived statement. If people used the same thought process throughout history that you are using, we'd all still be hunter/gatherers speaking different dialects every 10 miles from tribe to tribe (not that I am prejudice against any existing hunter/gatherer cultures). I have been gaming solidly for over 30 years, which covers my entire coherent life, if that makes sense. Trust me when I say I've literally watched the industry evolve from a simple Pong-based gaming system (my first was called 'TV Fun' that was so archaic that the sound effects came from the console itself rather than the TV speaker it was hooked up to), to the influential cultural powerhouse it is becoming today. The industry is more main-stream than it ever has been, but to say it reached the broader audience pre-Wii is naivety at its best. There are loads of people like myself that will always be gaming and owning at least one of the latest systems, but for every 'hardcore' gamer, there are probably 4 casual gamers and 5 people that don't game at all. To ignore all them is not good for an industry that I predict will be the dominant entertainment industry not just financially but also amongst the masses early in the 21st Century. If you think that has already been achieved, I wouldn't want you to be the CEO of any company I had significant stock in. The gaming industry might be racking up financial totals rivaling and surpassing movie ticket sales, but when a game costs 6x the amount of a movie ticket, it isn't drawing the same masses as the movie industry. For the record, lifetime sales of the PS2 only exceeded 140 million this year. While that is quite an impressive feat, that is WORLDWIDE. There is plenty of room to expand the industry as I'm sure you'd agree that in a world quickly approaching 7 billion people, there certainly are more than 140 million households...not to mention people who bought more than 1 PS2. I went through 3 after the first 2 got the infamous 'disk read error.' Also, the DS has already surpassed PS2 in lifetime sales in Japan...and it's a system designed to reach out to the non-gamer as much as the hardcore gamer...if not more so.

mrkame16
mrkame16

Kidtendo Wii, i own one and for me the thing i use it for is to play my old Game Cube games.

nintendokid
nintendokid

jayelcey: This gaming culture that you speak of already emerged and it did so during the PS1 era. It has already reached the pinnacle. Almost every American home with a TV also has a PS2. An industry that has the potential to make $170,000,000 overnight (Halo 3) is as mainstream as McDonald's. Everyone has already been exposed to gaming. Those that were destined to pick up gaming up as a lifelong hobby ("hardcore") has already done so by now and those who wish to enjoy it casually (ie Wii folks) will never change their approach.

THE_WHITE_MAGE
THE_WHITE_MAGE

To OldWiseBob, Reggie needs to "learn to math?" It sounds like someone else needs to learn to speak and write the English language well. I get the Nintendo hatred, but it is already getting tiring. They are in first place, they have taken attention away from the bloody, gory, violent "hardcore" games that traditional gamers love. But there was a time when Chrono Trigger was considered a hardcore game, along with Mario World. Neither of these games was violent, but both were fun and challenging. To those who say the hardcore games will never come from third parties, they will. The DS had a rocky first couple of years, but once publishers noted it had sold tens of millions of systems, the games came. The same will be for the Wii.

tudyniuz
tudyniuz

I don't like Wii,it's so childish...

jmartin1016
jmartin1016

I gave up about caring aout the Wii. I hope Nintendos next system is backward compatible because there are 4 games that I would like to play eventually. Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Smash Brothers. For this generation I would rather replace my 360 for $200 than spending another $50 on a system that only has 4-5 games that I care about.

coldreboot
coldreboot

Don't misunderstand me, I used to like Nintendo as much as the next guy. For quite a few years it was the only game in town. I've owned every Nintendo console since the NES up to the Gamecube and began to notice a downward spiral. The position Nintendo found themselves in with the Gamecube started with the N64. To call the N64 anything but a failure, with the exception of a few classics like Golden Eye, is a false statement. Anything the Gamecube did, Sony and Microsoft did better. Sure Nintendo had original IP's that didn't appear on any other system, but I don't believe regurgitating the same characters over and over is going to excite a lot of people. Want a good platformer? play Mario. Want a good RPG on the Gamecube?, play Paper Mario. Want a fun racing game?, play Mario Kart. My wife is one I'd consider a casual gamer. She got into the 'Cube for a while, Mario Golf, Mario Kart. It lasted about 3 months. I'm willing to bet you the Casual market, like my wife with the 'Cube, who has bought the Wii are no different than the regular gamers posting on this site telling you thier Wii is collecting dust. I'd be more interested in software sales and what titles are selling on the Wii than Hardware sales and would be a much more telling number than console numbers. Raise your hand if you'd rather play Paper Mario 2 over Final Fantasy 13. Your not going to get a majority of hands. I didn't make a brash decision, jump outta bed one morning and said, "I think I'll hate Nintendo from now on". My extreme distaste for Nintendo today comes from the fact that I used to love Nintendo in the past. Wii is just the World of Warcraft for the console market. Dumb it down, make it appeal to a larger audience and turn it loose to see how long the "neat-o" factor lasts. Yes the Wii has done well out of the gate, unfortunately a console cycle isn't a sprint race. Nintendo built a dragster, while Sony and Microsoft built NASCAR cars, as such, expect Wii's lead to dwindle and fall behind the older this cycle gets while Sony and Microsoft continue to sell hardware as new manufacturing processes decrease prices. If Nintendo wants longevity in this cycle and any subsequent cycles, they better start dancing with the gamers who brought them to the dance. Because the vast majority of the casual gamers they are courting now are gonna go out for a pack of cigarette's and never come back. "On average, Wii owners only buy 3.7 games a year, compared to 4.7 and 4.6 for the Xbox 360 and PS3 respectively. "These new gamers are content with the games they have, often going no further than the Wii Sports game that comes with the machine," the Times author states. "They don't buy new games with the fervor of a traditional gamer who is constantly seeking new stimulation." ...Is the quote taken from the New York Times. The fact that PS3 with 1/3rd the installed user base of the Wii and it's software is outselling Wii Software speaks volumes. So, as I stated before expect third party support for the Wii to dwindle to a trickle before it finally dies just like the 'Cube. It doesn't matter how many "casual" games are being made by Third party developers, if Wii owners aren't buying it the Developers WILL make the business decision Jay referenced and go where the money is, which according to the numbers are XBox360 and PS3.

HappyBB
HappyBB

Why are people still interested in Wii? It's a gaming platform that lacks serious titles. I have given up on mine, and if you want it, I might sell it to you. Perhaps after all those who are still seeking the system getting their own Wii, they will then realize that the system offers no serious but casual gaming experience. You need many people to be able to enjoy Wii. It's not meant for single-player gaming!!

PandaBear86
PandaBear86

2.4 million a month means 7.2 million every 3 months, not 10 million. Lol :P

jayelcey
jayelcey

nintendokid, I didn't say they would migrate to other consoles and games in droves. Exposing anyone to games is a positive, however, as the medium expands and reaches more critical mass. Will it spawn more casual games? Possibly. However, it also exposes an entirely new group of people who were reluctant before to the hobby most of us visiting this website love. Out of those people, there will be those who crave more, and who want depth to their games. They will try out other things, and a gaming culture unlike any in history could emerge. Call it...job security, if you will, for our hobby.

OldWiseBob
OldWiseBob

Yeah nintendokid, makes you wonder who the frick is buying these Wii systems (I bought one and I am not impressed with its library) and supporting the crappy games. Seriously.

OldWiseBob
OldWiseBob

Could his math get any worse? An increase from 1.6 million to 2.4 million is a 50% increase (go them). And it would take them 4.12 (approximately) months to match Sony's goals. Not that I'm mocking him or anything cuz I love him, but seriously, learn to math. Looks like the executive got that math right with a 50% increase. Rofl.

nintendokid
nintendokid

jayelcey: Whoa, slow down there, buddy. In theory, yes, but in practice, no. Obviously, the Wii will have stirred some curiosity in some folks to explore the gaming hobby with a more deep-rooted approach. But that doesn't change the fact that the majority of Wii fans are children, working women, elderly, etc. Take a look at the Wii games that would possibly open up the avenue of "hardcore"-ness: Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Metroid Prime 3, RE4, Star Wars Force Unleashed, Fire Emblem, Okami...these sold pathetically compared to Wii Fit and Wii Play to say the least.

puppiemaster
puppiemaster

I have a PS3 and a 360 and Would not buy a Wii, because I bought 1 on day one, you cant be a hardcore gamer without playing the cream of all the games and I'm afraid that the cream of the games does not come out on a single system. The Wii is for casual gamers, but its also for hardcore gamers, thats the beauty of it and thats why Sony and M$ are starting to make casual games, LBP is not a hardcore only game its aimed at the casual player as well. Does that make all the hardcore gamers casual gamers instantly?

jayelcey
jayelcey

First off, coldreboot, quote me where I said that you were calling Nintendo's actions "stupid." I quoted you in your own exact words before rebuking them and never put words in your 'mouth.' I'd appreciate the same courtesy. As far as the casual crowd buying a system every cycle, it probably isn't very likely that most will. However, calling the Wii a fad as so many disgruntled 'hardcore' gamers have (note that I didn't say you did)...well, being one of the top two selling systems every month since it's been out for nearly two years hardly qualifies it for fad status. The fact is, the Wii and DS have made Nintendo not just the most profitable game maker, but at one point the 2nd most valuable company in the whole of Japan! That's saying something when a company that makes exclusively games and gaming peripherals/systems can compete with and surpass the likes of major auto makers, electronics giants like Sony, toy makers, ect. in terms of finances. They didn't make it on just the Wii and DS consoles alone either. Someone is buying their software...yes, for the Wii too. Third party publishers are left in a position to where they can either make software that's at the same quality level as Nintendo's, or they will miss out on their piece of the pie. coldreboot "As far as mentioning having both a XBox360 and a PS3, I was simply making that statement before I was labeled a "fanboy", as I know how fast people are to throw that out on gaming sites." So what if you're labeled a fanboy? I'm sure I might get labled a Nintendo fanboy, or a casual gamer. Well, I personally don't own a Wii, but I do own a current generation 'hardcore' system that I am quite happy with. Whether I ever own a Wii or not is determined by the software of the future and whether it appeals to me or not. My wife seems interested in it, and my oldest child is coming of early-gaming age, so a Wii purchase might be good for us at some point. Either way, to sit there after stating something like "I hate Nintendo and swore I'd never buy another Nintendo console after the Gamecube, and I won't" and then brag about owning a PS3 and X-Box 360 to prevent people from calling you a fanboy...well, if you didn't want to look like a typical fanboy, perhaps you should've taken a more objective approach and not even written your comment altogether. What have you to gain by bashing Nintendo if you hate them and don't plan on buying any of their systems again if you're not a fanboy? Finally, I don't know how much Nintendo spent on market research to determine what kind of casual crowd existed, but I can guarantee you that they did research it. They took a chance and it paid off. Do you really think Microsoft or Sony took a chance? In some ways, yes, but in other ways they relied on the classic tried and true formula of ramping up system power and little else. The PS3 controller hasn't changed really since the inception of the Dual Shock on the PS1 (it's a great design and doesn't need to change in my opinion), and the X-Box...well, it's made by the only company that hasn't really brought about a major gaming revolution of the 3 companies mentioned here. Sure, they have their online Live service, but I've played games with good online support for years without having to pay for it and long before anyone ever though about the term 'X-Box.' Nintendo totally revitalized a near-dead gaming market after the disaster that was Atari at the end of it's dominant cycle, and once again Nintendo is opening up a gaming market unlike any seen before. Ultimately, it will benefit the hardcore gamer as there will be some casual gamers that will be willing to try all this fancy 'hardcore' stuff that's out there. By the way, if you really think of yourself as hardcore, which I can only assume due to the intenseness of your rhetoric, you wouldn't say things like "The software is garbage and it will remain garbage as long as Casual gamers continue to buy garbage." While Nintendo is openly courting the casual market, there are DEFINATELY a few games available EXCLUSIVELY on the Wii that any self-proclaimed hardcore gamer would surely be able to spend substantial amounts of time playing. Graphics, which can still look quite 'pretty' on the Wii, aren't everything, and hardcore gamers realize that.

TheBrownBlazer
TheBrownBlazer

I hope Nintendo tries to get more bolder with casual gamers and tries to turn them slowly into hardcore gamers. The video game industry needs to keep growing for all our sakes.

leviathanwing
leviathanwing

how does someone not do simple math well and yet have a job like his?

world69star69
world69star69

I was drunk one night after coming home from a co-workers house. He had a wii and I had fun playing all the games of wii sports drunk off my arse. I came home and checked ebay, their was a bid for a wii for $290 with 30 sec left, I won it. I didn't think i was going to , this was last January. I got the wii and it was fun for about 2-3 weeks max. Having galaxy, zelda, and sports/play. Then I got my gf ddr and she loved that for about a month. In April I got myself a ps3 to complement my gaming pc and in preporation for GTA4/MGS4... I loved it and have racked up 27 blue ray games and 12 psn games. The wii hasn't been touched since then. I can't sell it though as my gf keeps saying she will get back into ddr. I told her if she doesn't in a month, I will sell the whole thing as 1 big bundle. I hate looking at the thing! Nintendo isn't the same as it was when I was a kid in the 1980's. But My 7 year old nephew sure likes it! Thats who the wii is made for. As the good consoles focus more and more on teen and adult gamers(xbox and ps3) tbe wii fills the gap for the young kids and babies who can fling the remote around, giggle and slobber at the screen....that is nintendo's new audience.

santiagochile
santiagochile

How about some games?? I have a Wii, but there hasn't been much to keep me interested. I'm still playing games like Mario Galaxy, which came out almost a year ago.

black_ice23
black_ice23

theres a lot of sore gamers here not to mention hater who have nothing better to do than throw around word like kiddy and childish when the Wii is mention, so you don't like it does it mean you have constantly hate on it when you see a Wii headline? that shows that you are truly childish and have no life but why can't you accept the Wii is a great system a and its simple as that the sales prove it, if you don't like thats you, and to my fellow Wii gamers who say Nintendo doesnt do "Hardcore" just STFU jeeze they gave you some great games recently like Wario but look at the sales compare to Wii Fit its no wonder we don't get much and even then they release there AAA titles which have some great replay and if that isnt good enough for you then a) you are never happy b) you are a nerd) c) you need a 2nd system either way is not Nintendos fault but Hardcore is a term invented by those nerdy or afraid to share there game at the risk their kid sister will own them in it all I got to say is I See You HI HATER

Toro_Nev
Toro_Nev

thats nice for people who dont have a wii.

droopy_joe
droopy_joe

All thats going to happen is you're going to see big wii display mountains building dust. Everyone who wanted one already has one, and some of those people sold their wiis because theres nothing to play.

kingmickey2
kingmickey2

I thought whoever wanted a wii already had one?

coldreboot
coldreboot

jayelcey, If you care to read my post again, I never said what Nintendo was doing was stupid. What I was saying is it's getting old seeing Gamers banging thier fists wanting GAMES for the "Hardcore" crowd and still standing behind Nintendo who fails to deliver, repeatedly. Nintendo has proven in the last two years that the "Hardcore" minority who adopted thier new toy aren't as important as the Casual crowd. The Hardcore crowd can only blame themselves, the Wii was in no way marketed to appeal to you, yet you bought it. Let me ask you this jay, Do you see the "Casual" gamers who the Wii appeals to buying a new system every console cycle?, I don't, and I don't think a lot of other people will think that either. So when the "Casual" gamers get tired of gaming and go do something else all Nintendo will be left with is an alienated "Hardcore" player base that doesn't trust them and are more likely to move to a console maker who gives them what they want in software. As far as mentioning having both a XBox360 and a PS3, I was simply making that statement before I was labeled a "fanboy", as I know how fast people are to throw that out on gaming sites. I have no loyalty to a brand name, Sony, Microsoft, whatever, as long as it has games I want to play. Nintendo has zero. Second, No, it's not an ignorant statement. How does Capcom, Rockstar, EA or any publisher making LOW COST, CASUAL games for the Wii benefit the HARDCORE players who don't play "party" games. It doesn't. You say the Hardcore market is finicky? How many 10s of Millions of PS2 consoles did Sony sell?, I'll tell you, 140million as of this year. How many 10s of millions of games were sold? Last time I checked there were no "party" or casual games on a PS2 top 10 list. Poor sales in the "Hardcore" market rests on the shoulders of the developer. If the game is good gamers will buy it, if it's crap, they won't. Casual gamers will buy something on Wii because it looks fun on the box or they like the "idea", "it seems like it'd be fun, so it must be" they think to themselves as they stand in the aisle at wal-mart. I know three people who have a Wii, One is a four year old boy, One is a 50 year old insurance salesman and the last is a married couple in thier late 20's. You know what they all have in common? They all have Wii Sports and have bought absolutely NO other software, such is the casual market. Go research how long WiiSports was the number one selling Wii title. "Casual" gamers don't generally buy a lot of software after the hardware purchase. Lastly, I don't believe for one second that Nintendo spent a bunch of money on market research that told them a "Casual" console was the way to go as much as thier own sorry *** Gamecube sales told them it was time to try something different. Like it or not, the Wii without the WiiMote is a Gamecube in a white case. The software is garbage and it will remain garbage as long as Casual gamers continue to buy garbage.

Ugotownedo
Ugotownedo

That's a 50% increase, not a 33% increase :P

Wula_
Wula_

Hard to find is a overstatement. They are everywhere now and have been like that for the last 8 months. People are just really lazy or don't know where to look. When I got one for my little bro to work on unlocking stuff for my games. It took me less then 10 mins from thinking about buying a second wii to give to him.

josef8
josef8

i just dont feel de wii, its so childish

ftjx
ftjx

YAHOOOOOOOOOOO

hector530
hector530

Monthly Wii? sounds like a lady problem. o yeah and Nintendo doesnt make games anymore

Crusader-Z
Crusader-Z

seems like a lot of families have liked or wanted the Wii Fit like my parents did but they didn't play it because of working lol...

MasterChiefBMN
MasterChiefBMN

It's good to see Nintendo increase its production output for those who haven't picked up a Wii yet. I've seen them in stock on store shelves before but it was only a one time thing.

Keivz_basic
Keivz_basic

I have never seen a wii on a retail store's shelf.

Javier
Javier

Once the sole word "Nintendo" meant videogames in general. From the mid 80s to the early 90s there was no Sony nor Microsoft. Just Sega and Nintendo and the big N always managed to get the upper hand and eventually prevailed over Sega. Since Nintendo dissed Sony in a joint venture for a console that used CD technology over cartridges it all went down for them. Sony kept the project and called it Playstation and Nintendo released the N64. So Nintendo planted the seeds of gaming in most of us and as a thank you they give us Wii Music and craploads of morning cartoons shovelware? Most people argue "Next year there will be a lot of good titles for the Wii". Last time I checked my Wii had a DVD-ROM, not a PROMISE-ROM. Why would I buy now a Wii seeing the barrage of titles coming this and the next weeks for the, as Reggie thinks, "lesser" consoles? To be fair Reggi, you shouldnt compare Wii sales to PS3 o XBOX sales. You should compare the Wii sales with the Ticlke Me Elmo sales, because thats the same audience you are reaching for. I know Twilight Princess, SSMBM, Mario Galaxy, etc. are out. But so are GTAIV, Halo 3, MGS4, COD4, etc. Lets not speak in retrospective. Sure new Mario/Zelda/Metroid/pikmin games are sure to eventually be released, but using that as an argument makes as much sense as saying "Im not buying the PS3 beacause Im waiting for the PS4". If you want to impress me, reggie, dont talk about if you are able to spawn one hundred million consoles a month. Tell me about cool no-minigames titles I can get my hands on in this holiday season.

popplayer22
popplayer22

Also some of the best games Wii has, the control with the Wii remote sucks. So you it's a lot easier to play with the pad. Tell me, what is the point of playing with the pad, if you're entire system is based around MOTION CONTROL? It makes no sense. It's a subpar console, with no real games. So I hope everyone enjoys Wii. I'm gonna be playing Gears of War 2, LittleBigPlanet, Far Cry 2, and Resistance 2 while you're all playing Animal Crossing and Wii Music.

st1sk8er18
st1sk8er18

the wii is meant for casual family gamers who would never buy video games otherwise. thats all. i think what nintendo is doing is smart as far as business goes. However,i personally have been very disappointed by the wii. I slept in front of Target the night before its release because i thought it was going to an awesome new system,too bad thats not the case. I am disappointed that the wii hasnt turned into what i thought or expected it to be. But i also respect nintendo's decision to aim at and include a far greater base than what the "hardcore gamers" base is for a system that doesnt even compare to the 360/ps3. Getting people more used to gaming who would otherwise be scared off by complex controllers is fine by me. Keeping younger kids occupied with the games the wii offers rather than mature games with killing,sex,alcohol,and swearing...thats totally fine with me. Being 22 i grew up with nintendo and i will always be a fan in one way or another. I may not play my wii much,and there may not be more than 5 games i would ever play on it...but i still respect nintendo for attempting to reach out and make video games more acceptable to the public.

sinx1971
sinx1971

why is how Wii's or anything else they sell or make needs to be a story. Who really cares? Who they bragging to? Sony and Microsoft? It just seems childish.