Molyneux says Xbox One showing at E3 'very unprofessionally done'

Former Microsoft executive criticizes company for not showing benefits of always-online system.

Former Microsoft executive Peter Molyneux has spoken out to criticize the Xbox One's showing at this year's Electronic Entertainment Expo.

Speaking with Games Industry International, the now-independent developer said Microsoft should have done a better job communicating to gamers why the Xbox One's online requirement will result in positive gaming and entertainment experiences.

"I just think it was very unprofessionally done. There was one message from one Phil and then another message from another Phil," Molyneux said, speaking about Xbox executives Phil Spencer and Phil Harrison. "And they seemed to be kind of shooting from the hip."

"Always online is simple for me. As a consumer, just show me why I should be always online and I'll be happy with it," he added. "At the moment, it just means game sale authentication. I don't want that. But if there's some way you can give a huge benefit for the consumer, and make the message super clear, [it would be accepted]."

Molyneux said that Microsoft must be "very clear" and focus on the benefits of a connected console if it wants to win consumers over. He pointed out that smartphones are always-connected devices, and it's something people don't give much thought to.

"We need, as an industry, to be super clear to our consumers, and when you're at E3 you kind of forget about consumers for a while. It just seems to be all about the show," Molyneux said.

The Xbox One launches in November for $500.

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talamalopilis
talamalopilis

there are some benefits of always online but they are kinda far off. Theres is the mentioned ability to compute some of the games mechanics on a seperate online server which on paper seems like a cool idea...

But find me one developer anywhere thats willing to put the time in to code something as intricate as that just for a video game. I dont see that happening anytime soon. 

paulsifer42
paulsifer42

Molyneux is totally right on this one.  Why would I want to always be online?  How do the benefits outweigh the costs?

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

Seems weird to say it, but I actually agree with Molyneux... this time.

Drknite
Drknite

anyone remember all the crap that was being thrown around when the PS3 and 360 came out??

we will all survive..... and maybe kill a few zombies in the process ;)

poseidion
poseidion

I hate the "always connected" thing, but this Peter guy made a good point.

SeannTHEsheep
SeannTHEsheep

heres a theory. What if when you buy a game for the XBOX ONE , the game ISNT ON THE DISC? what if the game is just stored on the cloud and all you do is activate it with a $60 game disc and it installs from the cloud onto your console. hence the reason why you have to deactivate it from your account when you sell it because the disc is actually empty.

Gamer85032
Gamer85032

xbo is going straight to the crapper with all this bull crap they are pulling...... on the bright side you will always see an xbo system in-stock at any store that sells electronics

Gamer85032
Gamer85032

neither the ps4 nor the xbo are backwards compatible so after doing my research and after reading and hearing what both of the systems have to offer I don't think I'll be getting any of the systems until they get all their crap together....... i have made my choice..... thanks microsoft and sony for making my choice easier.... I am not about to pay $400 or $500 just for better graphics and for like 5 or 6 games that are coming out with the launch of the systems and that i don't even know if I'm going to like them at all....but "IF" i were to get a system in the future it would probably be the ps4(less complicated)

Gamer85032
Gamer85032

can somebody tell me if they know how much the games are going to cost because i heard that they were going to go up...thank you

macca366
macca366

I agree, I don't really recall anyone talking about the benefits of what they're doing? Anything they say seems more like excuses for it. In support of it, they mostly just draw comparisons between smartphones and stuff, arguing that we as people are just headed in the direction of always 'being connected', so they're following the trend. But apart from the benefits of cloud computing they seem to really be shooting themselves in the foot with how they've presented it.

A self-professed engineer at microsoft wrote a big message on pastebin that actually gave reasons for it. His main sort of argument was that they were intending to essentially turn xbox into steam. I could maybe get behind that if the price of games drops and they had similar sales etc etc, but I just don't see that happening. I still like discs, and no restrictions on my discs and gaming.

I don't think people are ready to go fully digital yet, and we're not trusting enough either, I doubt any major publisher would move into a fully digital model instantly and actually give consumers the full benefits it entails (like cheaper games)

El_Zo1212o
El_Zo1212o

Am I the only one who, whether he agrees with him or not, thinks Peter Molyneux needs to keep his opinions to his own damn self?

TirOrah
TirOrah

"He pointed out that smartphones are always-connected devices, and it's something people don't give much thought to."

I'm sorry, I didn't know my smartphone required me to turn it on once a day... O_o And I'd love to see anyone lug around an Xbox One like they do a smartphone. Nope, try again...

BenoftheDead
BenoftheDead

I think Xbox just need to get their shit together and come out with some straight answers.

I personally don't want Kinect, never got one for my 360 and I'm not interested in any of its features. I live in a shared house and I game late at night and don't want to shout at my TV and wake people or wave my hands at the screen either because gimmicks don't excite me. I guess like a lot of console gamers I prefer to just use the controller. I know you can turn Kinect off, but I want to know if it needs to be connected at all.

The 24 hour check in only sucks in theory; like if you very rarely sign in online because that's a check in, most people already 'check in' everytime they play. Even when I play singleplayer I'm connected to Live like my entire friends list.

The used game policy is the deal breaker though, they need to give us a concise answer because it's just making them (Microsoft) look greedy.

They should release a bundle minus the Kinect and it'd be the same price as the PS4...

Sorry for the wall of text.

Mik9445
Mik9445

Who cares what that tw@ thinks anyway. He's only bitter that he was booted from Lionhead for talking rubbish all the time anyway.

Gamer85032
Gamer85032

i honestly don't care if we have to be online to play games because most of us play online anyway....the only thing that i want to know and they didn't cover during the press is if we are going to be able to buy used games or borrow it from our friends and still be able to play it or what...... and also the kinect thing do i have to own the kinect 2 in order for me to be able to play? i want to know this things because right now i am debating whether to get the xbox one or the ps4 i am a fan of both consoles because they each offer some amazing exclusive features and games and the ps4 being $100 cheaper it already caught my attention but if paying $500 for the xbox is going to be worth it I dont mind paying the difference.

dskribe
dskribe

I actually enjoyed the Microsoft presser. I thought they showed off a lot of great games. Lots of new IPs and some really great footage of big franchise games like MGS and Battlefield 4. I expect Titanfall will become a big hitter once it comes out. That game looks amazing.

Look, I know it's easy to get caught up in the hype train and bash Microsoft right now. I mean why wouldn't you? Everyone else is doing it...but to be fair saying the actual press conference was "unprofessional" is an exaggeration. People wanted to see games at their event, and that's exactly what they showed. Sony also showed games, but as an owner and fan of both consoles this gen, I was a bit surprised that the Xbox One exclusives looked better and that Sony didn't have more to announce than simply 1 new IP.

kouji03
kouji03

what will happen if i break my kinect2 the xboxone wont be working anymore unless i buy a new one? just wondering

pellungrobe
pellungrobe

Trolling Molyneux is trolling....
Anyway he is dead right on one thing: Microsoft should have planned some kind of feature in the games to actually use the "always online" thing to enhance the gameplay, or offer something diverse and new. As it is, it's just something that is watching you and controlling you all the time....

91210user
91210user

Molyneux is clearly trying out the new term 'unprofessional', he's still a newbie in giving out a press release!

codeman101360
codeman101360

"Molyneux said that Microsoft must be "very clear" and focus on the benefits of a connected console..." Such as...?

coaltango
coaltango

being online is not a huge issue. we all have wifi

Drknite
Drknite

oh ya I forgot about the Wii... OMG what will we do????   lol

talamalopilis
talamalopilis

@SeannTHEsheep its the philosophy that people are concerned. Games have for a long time been considered toys, and people very much liked it that way. Now all of a sudden games are turning into licenses and services and people who have played games on consoles 2 generations ago arent happy with this transition. 

diabloheat
diabloheat

@Gamer85032 Not really sure but i doubt that it would change since the architecture is easier to develop on and there were no new disc technologies to be used. So technically it shouldn't change.  

aka_ecelipze
aka_ecelipze

@TirOrah I hate when people misunderstand this. You DONT need to turn on your "xbox one" everyday! Its just if you lost your internet more than 24 hours on your xbox one,  you cant play any games before you connected to the internet again...

BenoftheDead
BenoftheDead

@TirOrah People need to understand the 24 hour check in is not literally having to turn the console on every damn day, if you want if off for a week leave it off for a week, it just means when you do turn it on after that week you'll need to sign in to Live before you can play, kinda like what 90% of you do every time you play... People are the worst.

It's only a 24 hour check in if you play every day and don't sign in. So if you play like most people and sign into Live you won't notice a damn thing...

Still, just buy a PS4 and stop crying.

lNate15
lNate15

@TirOrah those are two different things genius.

pellungrobe
pellungrobe

@BenoftheDead I am a bit of a "Bear". I don't play multiplayer games. I don't use internet, except from those rare situations in which I have to buy a game from an online service. I think that there are a lot of gamers like me who simply like to pay for a damn disc, sit on the couch and relax a bit, minding their own business. I don't like the idea of my xbox watching me, or controlling my ownership of used games. I don't like to have to check online, so that M$ can be happy and can see what the F* I am doing.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a grumpy character, but then again, I guess I'm not alone

pellungrobe
pellungrobe

@kouji03 That is actually a really good question, I don't think that M$ said anything about at E3.

Slvrshot
Slvrshot

@pellungrobe No, all MS had to do is present their vision of the all digital future and present why it benefits gamers and is better than the current setup. I think they have a number of compelling reasons but it looks like they never finished fleshing out all the details, and they are doing everything on the fly. That is why you hear so many conflicting comments.

weschik
weschik

@codeman101360 That's for Microsoft to answer, not him. He's just the developer. Microsoft are the punks who trying to push this down our throats.

snap-dragon
snap-dragon

@coaltango "we all"? I certainly don't. Would if I could. 

Gamer85032
Gamer85032

@diabloheat am i going to be able to play xbox 360 games on the xbox one or did they take that feature out too.....because if they did i am deff. going to get a ps4 instead

Gamer85032
Gamer85032

@diabloheat thank you there is a lot of things i want to figure out before i make my choice of which system to buy even though i am going to end up buying both but i don know which one to buy first

El_Zo1212o
El_Zo1212o

Oh, quit being dramatic. I just think it's ridiculous when people like Molyneux and Tim Schaefer go around handing out advice on how to be professional or successful- especially to people who ARE those things.

By the way, you obviously don't understand the concept of "freedom of speech."

TirOrah
TirOrah

@aka_ecelipze @BenoftheDead Really? I'd love to read where it said that, because all I've heard is that you need to sign in once a day. If that's not true, great, but please don't accuse me of 'crying' when things like these happen. O_o So you can't play any games before you connect again? This is weird, I'm pretty sure the penalty for not meeting the requirements hasn't been made public yet, so I'm not quite sure what to think about this. Feel free to link me to where you read about this information, you two, because I'd love to see all of this turning out better than we thought. 

Dbizzles
Dbizzles

Yea exactly. "its the principle" is what i keep seeing from people. They are both damn companies to take your money and do not care about you in the least. and we are talking about VIDEO GAMES PEOPLE. lol. Buy what you want and shut up

TirOrah
TirOrah

@lNate15 Hi there, while I appreciate your (seemingly somewhat condescending) reply, I'm pretty certain that yes, an Xbox One and a smartphone are two different things. But hey, don't blame me for it; Mr. Molyneux was the one who presented that example in the first place. ;D

BenoftheDead
BenoftheDead

@pellungrobe I like the term 'bear' haha.

I still sit on my couch minding my own business when I play and there's nothing like breaking the seal on a new game too. I don't think anyone likes the idea of being spied on but you can turn those features off, it can only redeem itself in my eyes if you can disconnect Kinect completely!

The check in is mainly to verify the games you're playing, for used game and piracy I beleive. A ridiculous concept not needed as proven by Sony but I don't think the check in is as bad as people make out when most of the western world has internet. I'd say the people who can't connect are in the minority if you look at most gamer trends and the popularity of online. I for one am excited about the concept of the cloud and games downloading in the background etc.

I agree you shouldn't be excluded just because you don't though, Mattrick's comment along the lines of 'No internet? Stick with 360!' was a tad extreme. I'm in the PS4 camp at the moment but as a lover of co-op I'll want the console the majority of my friends have. I'm just bitter because Xbox has the better exclusives it would appear...

kouji03
kouji03

@pellungrobe @kouji03 they never released a price for a seperate kinect right? im not really sure if they did but im kinda worried about the price of kinect 2 since kinect 1 is already expensive..

diabloheat
diabloheat

@Gamer85032 @diabloheat LOL! Im sticking with the PS4 i am forever loyal to sony till they mess things up haha. 

As far as i know you cant play any of the 360 games on the xone or the PS3 on the PS4 ... but on the PS4 there is the cloud gaming technology which they will be using to allow u access to PS3 games on the PS4 ... maybe xbox would do the same.

kave1793
kave1793

@El_Zo1212o Peter Molyneux probably thinks you need to keep your opinions of him to your own damn self.

Just saying.

BenoftheDead
BenoftheDead

@pellungrobe I'm a huge zombie fan and kinda want DR3 even though it seems to have become fodder for shooter fanboys. One of the devs said you can still dress silly in a banana hammock and stuff so I'm kinda hopeful. I don't think I'll get both consoles this gen so may just settle for watching others play it on YouTube.

I really wasn't impressed with Titanfall at all...

I don't really like driving games but Drive Club looks great!

pellungrobe
pellungrobe

@BenoftheDead @pellungrobe On the exclusives I am really bumped down by both consoles, and it seems I am the only one. 

Car games: Forza and Drive Club. Pretty good both, I just don't mind driving games.

Shooters: same old shit on both consoles: titanfall graphics are sharp but nothing really cutting edge about it, same thing for killzone.

Ryse looks like a Quick-Time-Events orgy. Dead Rising 3 has clearly lost all the mindless humor that the series had.

Knack on ps4 doesn't look bad, but not particularly good either. Infamous second son, however, is really promising, if they fix the somewhat lackluster combat.

All in all, I think that the best games will be multi-platform: Watchdogs, Witcher 3, FFXV and the likes.