Molyneux says next Xbox 'not nearly as exciting' as 360

"I just want the next Xbox to be a great gaming machine," says former Microsoft Game Studios creative director.

Games industry legend Peter Molyneux has said that Microsoft's imminent debut of its next Xbox won't be "nearly as exciting" as when the publisher unveiled the Xbox 360 back in May 2005.

Speaking to the BBC, the former creative director of Microsoft Game Studios started by dubbing 2013 the year of the "console hardware refresh" and said that "although [the next Xbox is] exciting, it's not nearly as exciting as when the Xbox 360 exploded onto the gaming scene just over seven years ago."

"Back then, the 360 represented a huge leap forward in gaming, with a tangible increase in performance and fantastic multiplayer support. Gamers and game-makers were justifiably super-excited," added Molyneux. "Now it is that time again, but the world has changed."

Molyneux--who now heads up indie studio 22 Cans--points to the growing tablet and mobile markets and their frequent hardware updates as one of Microsoft's challenges with its next console, adding that "on the horizon looms Valve with its PC-based Steam Box."

"Thereby hangs the problem for Microsoft: how to justify its new console, how to get us all excited."

Its competition is no longer Sony and Nintendo, but rather Apple, Google, and Samsung.

While Molyneux says Microsoft "won the last console generation," he adds that the publisher has always seen the living room as "the big prize" for the Xbox. "When I used to work at Microsoft the key phrase that I used to hear bandied around was the next Xbox should be 'input one' on people's living room screen."

"Nowadays I'm an independent designer and I just want the next Xbox to be a great gaming machine."

Molyneux says Microsoft's next Xbox "should have great connectivity, so I can play spectacular games with my friends and be sold at a reasonable price, perhaps around $300 (£200)."

"That should be Microsoft's goal rather than persisting in trying to make it a box for everyone," he concluded.

Microsoft will unveil its new hardware today at 18:00 BST/10:00 PDT. GameSpot will be covering the next-gen Xbox unveiling live from the company's Redmond campus.

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254 comments
twisted_outlaw
twisted_outlaw

This guy is kind of a joke. He's right about the Xbox being a media box, and that it will probably fail hard with gamers. Microsoft is underestimating the market. They will try to sell this thing as hard as they can. I hope it fails.

haze_blaze
haze_blaze

Interesting enough, he also stated on an IGN podcast that he thought the PS4 seems to be more so the console for gamers after the XBone reveal. At least based on what we know so far. He was still positive on Microsoft though, thinking they will likely succeed in becoming known for their media box, while PS4 will be the games box.

Metalnoid
Metalnoid

Nowadays I'm an independent designer and I just want the next Xbox to be a great gaming machine."

You are out, don't come back with your Fable stuff

OldKye
OldKye

I already had a Xbox one I got it in 2001 I'm honestly about as excited for buying this one as I would be to just buy that one again.

Hey_Jay
Hey_Jay

He speaks words of truth, but to be fair, nothing about this upcoming generation has been nearly as exciting as the last. Wii U, PS4, Xbox One... *snore*

hystavito
hystavito

The tablet issue is always an interesting one, the hardware does move fairly quickly.  Maybe we will have tablets on the market before the end of the cycle that will actually be more powerful than the Xbox ONE and PS4, for the same or lower prices.

eyeball2452
eyeball2452

Yup.  Kinect is really the only competitive advantage. Live! could be running on any platform that plugs into a tv.  It was cool 8 years ago ... it's pretty mediocre now. 


MS and Sony both need to get focused on the games.  I don't really need their boxes for cable or entertainment that I can use on other devices.  It's a nice addition, but if that's the selling point, the next generation is off to a very poor start.

edant79
edant79

Well, its not bad for people who like asking their game console to watch tv.

Thathanka
Thathanka

Fable 3, not nearly as exciting as Fable 2.

thundercave01
thundercave01

i dont care what Molyneux's says hes always full of shit

91210user
91210user

I think they are going to make the next X-box more 'limited' because losers developers like Molyneux can stop over promising and actually tell gamers and the media the truth in what they actually going to put in their video games and not what to think what they should put in their console. Molyneux thinks he can do better with a statement like that considering that he's got this rep of over promising that annoys most (if not all) gamers.

bmart970
bmart970

I think he's right. I really haven't felt that much excitement.

celtictroop
celtictroop

A lot of grief in the chat about Molyneux, all true, yet his vision about the future of gaming and entertainment just came true with the xbox one. Remember when he talked about Milo? well, all the functionality in the new xbox are exactly what we were shown with Milo, just without Milo. The kinect is essence what he always talked about regarding interactivity, albeit different in scope and execution, his fable ideas will be taken from other publishers and implemented in other franchises. Molyneux was unfortunate in his latest projects but that's only because we, the gamers, have been so enamored with the usual idiosyncrasies found in most games that when something truly revolutionary is presented we go into it already expecting it will fail...Molyneux had a lot of these failures in recent years but that is no reason to bash him so fervently, is execution is lackluster but his ideas are what is changing the industry now. 

blackace
blackace

Steam Box? LOL!! You mean the game console from Valve that will cost over $1000? What has Peter been smoking?

ThAdEa82
ThAdEa82

Hopefully everything will be more exciting than fable 2

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

Uh Google, Apple, and Samsung are absolutely not Microsoft competitors in this market. Tablet/mobile gaming will literally never be a thing outside of Nintendo and Sony handhelds, that anyone actually cares about. They are MS competition in mobile markets, yea, and not a concern.

SubHumanTorch
SubHumanTorch

Ah, Molyneux, maybe one day a game you make will have even half the features you claim it will have. Ever since Black & White he has consistently made claims about his games that just turned out to be untrue, I know things get dropped in development but he never mentions what ideas have been dropped. I genuinely loved the first Fable but even that did not reflect the game described by Molyneux in nearly any of the announcements. 

DarthLod
DarthLod

Apple, Google and Samsung.....odd, I don't own any games by them.

xeonexs
xeonexs

who cares what he says, the last good game he made was around 20 years ago

SweatySasquatch
SweatySasquatch

So the new Kinect-Box gets revealed tonight. How wonderful for the media industry, and Molyneux is about as excited as a new case of users with the RROD .

glhx2112
glhx2112

Molyneux should put his money/talent where his mouth is and dedicate the next few years to developing games for the Wii-U if he is not every excited for the next Xbox. I'm not very excited either, but, it's here (and we will get to see one shortly), and, like it or not, excited or not, it will be a major player in the console universe.

Prats1993
Prats1993

"Molyneux says Microsoft won the last console generation". Pfffft okay, I'll just type that in my invisible typewriter.

Riddick123
Riddick123

Peter, we just want great games to play on a gaming system, not the crap you produce.


Grenadeh
Grenadeh

Peter, no one cares what you think.

Mega_Loser
Mega_Loser

the industry moves itself forward by talking trash, this side talks trash, that side talks trash, whatever. it's interesting how user comments defend or condemn peter's epiphany dividing themselves between haters and fanbois.

jazilla
jazilla

Does Peter realize that his last few games haven't been nearly as good as his first few? Pot meet kettle.

jyml8582
jyml8582

And he's going to say that in the reveal event today on M$'s stage? 

DemiGenius24
DemiGenius24

I am supposed to trust the word of Peter Molyneux now, the Uwe Boll of video games?

Bayonetta2013
Bayonetta2013

@Hey_Jay Is it fair to call the WiiU "upcoming generation?" 

If anything, the PS4 and Xbox One is about to leave it behind...just like the PS3 and Xbox 360 did only a few years ago.

haze_blaze
haze_blaze

@hystavito By the end of the next gen cycle? I guess that's feasible depending on how long the gen goes on for. 

tightwad34
tightwad34

@bmart970 Yeah, I am kind of in the same boat. I will get a PS4 eventually, but the jump from 3 to 4 doesn't seem to be nearly as dramatic as it was from 2 to 3. That kinda baffles me because technology is developing so rapidly you would think they could make the leap even bigger given it's been I think 7 years since the PS3 came out, could be wrong on that.  

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

1) NO.  Learn to read. No it won't. The ONE steambox that is coming out before the real Steam box, is made by a separate company who is going to charge $1000 for it. Valve is not charging that when they do release the actual Piston. Valve does not endorse them and wishes they would stop saying things.

2) $1000 is not a lot of money. What you are buying with a Steam box is an actual gaming computer that can be modified and upgraded. Even for a real full computer, $1000 is laughable. You can build one for less, obviously, but $1100 will get you a pimp computer that will last years, play and run everything, and you can obviously upgrade it with all the bullshit that a needlessly $16,000 dollar computer would come with.

blackace
blackace

@ThAdEa82 I actually thought the original Xbox's launch was more exciting then XBox 360. It's because no one knew what to expect or what kind of games it would have. Each system launch is exciting, but the debut is usually the most exciting.

interrasteral7
interrasteral7

@SubHumanTorch 

I felt like Randy Pitchford said false features on Aliens: Colonial Marines similar to what Peter Molyneux said on the Fable video games.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@SweatySasquatch Actually in about 20 minutes the event starts...at least the live stream of the "Let's talk about shit for 6 hours before it happens" part.

blackace
blackace

@Prats1993 The Wii actually won. Had the most profits, software and hardware sales and the most games. Overall the Wii won. The XBox 360 won over the PS3 overall. The PS3 is or will probably be the winner in Europe. 

Morfessa
Morfessa

@Riddick123 No need for me to comment; Riddick123 said exactly what I was thinking!

fillup0
fillup0

@Mega_Loser It's even more interesting when people have actual discussions though other than "HURR PETER IS GAI" or "HURR PETER IS GOD"

Heshertonfist
Heshertonfist

@DemiGenius24 Now, now, Molyneux talks a lot of trash, everything Uwe Boll touches turns to trash, big difference.

twisted_outlaw
twisted_outlaw

@tightwad34 @bmart970 Graphically, it dosn't "look" that advanced, because we went from a small number of polygons to a way bigger number. You WILL see the difference believe me. The jump wasn't that big anyways at launch. The biggest jump will come after this generation is totally gone, and developers are focused 100% on the new hardware.

tightwad34
tightwad34

@blackace Nobody "won". It's all subjective and nobody's opinion is wrong, unless they are spouting nonsense that isn't true.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

What I will have to say though, as I own all the consoles, PS3 did have a better console-exclusive experience, not because it had more - it didn't. Because it had more good exclusives, and I'm not including actual PS3 exclusives - the ones I actually care about are God of War saga, MGS4, Heavy Rain, for example. 

I truly have no interest in Halo. Alan Wake was awesome and I liked it but Alan Wake and Dead Rising on their own (even though Box has tons of exclusives), even with the help of Gears, don't really make me value them. Not that Heavy Rain or MGS4 were actually games because we all know they weren't.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@blackace @Prats1993 It had all three of those things, correct. Wii won in terms of quantity- not quality, not by a long shot. PS3 and 360 came pretty much neck and neck in terms of actual quality of experience and games.

Dizzy1976
Dizzy1976

@fillup0 @Mega_Loser 

 Peter has a very big vision of where he hopes to see games go or become. Hes just been very unfortunate in being able to provide those experiences. He also falls short in being upfront about their development, however we don't know just how held back he was in that case to say the least.

chrisda
chrisda

@DemiGenius24 @Heshertonfist 
Sure Lionhead makes a lot of trash now, but the original Fable was fantastic and Black and White will forever be one of the best strategy games ever made.