Microsoft: Xbox One won't be the last hardware-based console

Executive Phil Spencer says hardware-based gaming will live on at least for another generation, believes bandwidth caps "clearly an issue."

Despite the rise in digital distribution and services like Sony's PlayStation Now streaming technology or the Xbox One's ability to offload tasks to the cloud, hardware-based consoles aren't going away anytime soon, according to Microsoft. Asked on Twitter if he thinks the Xbox One will be the last console to run on local hardware, Xbox executive Phil Spencer "I don't."

"I think local compute will be important for a long time," he said. "You can look at mobile, connected to faster networks, more cloud services but local power still increases each gen."

One limitation for an all-digital future, Spencer said, comes down to bandwidth speeds people have available to them in the home.

"Bandwidth caps clearly an issue, still believe [hardware] & [software] engineers working together will find local hardware scenarios critical," he said.

An all-digital future for gaming is eventually going to happen, Xbox director of product planning Albert Penello said in September, though it may not be any time soon. Microsoft's cloud-based servers could also eventually allow players to stream games similar to the way in which they will through Sony's PlayStation Now.

If and when we do see the follow-up to the Xbox One, expect the device to offer a multitude of services. Penello said during CES 2014 last week that the days of single-purpose consoles are over.

Written By

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and is a big UCONN athletics fan.

Discussion

328 comments
suprsolider
suprsolider

I still don't care Microsoft.


I am NEVER BUYING YOUR CONSOLES EVER. 

So take your garbage and leave.

Ranma_X_basic
Ranma_X_basic

It's WAY to soon for microsoft to even be talking/mentioning anything about a new console when the Xbone has only been out for about two months now. I would've waited a few year before even bringing this topic up. but whatever if they wanna talk about that's them. 


TheJamin
TheJamin

By the time the next gen consoles comes out i'll be old and grey and living on the moon.

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

I get where publishers are coming from when they say we don't 'own' our games, but all the legal jargon in the world can't stop me playing them. Going digital would ensure the publishers have the ability to do just that.


I'm a pretty resolute Sony fan, but if Sony were to go digital only before Microsoft then I would happily switch to an Xbox. That's how strongly I feel about this subject.

NetGod
NetGod

XB1 would have been digital only this generation had Microsoft not listened to all the sorry a** cry babies that threw their tantrum a couple of months ago. 

BoozerX
BoozerX

Eddie Trollkuch strikes again.

Artwark
Artwark

I know that it won't end for Nintendo making new consoles. I don't know if I can say the same for Microsoft and Sony.....


curiousarman
curiousarman

I had a feeling that they will announce an handheld console... no, i didn't mean surface. 

PSYCHOV3N0M
PSYCHOV3N0M

I could be a wealthy Billionaire with a 500Mbps connection speed & no data caps etc & I STILL WOULD NEVER BUY A CONSOLE THAT ISN'T HARDWARE-BASED. Digital only future for dedicated consoles will never get my money. I want physical tangible DISCS that are powered by the LOCAL hardware inside my home. I don't want any input lag from streaming games.

mav_destroyer
mav_destroyer

Given these companies' current practices with a partially digital present, the "All digital future" should not happen. We will lose ownership of our games and we'll be ripped off of every game/product we purchase. I hope indie games keep the pressure on them well into the future.

dragonkantus4
dragonkantus4

let me tell you something this wont happen in at least 20 or more years cause not everyone will have a good internet until there.....

BranKetra
BranKetra moderator moderator

Microsoft has previously stated that the Xbox One will be the last console anyone ever has to buy. I deduce that Microsoft intends to make another home video game console to succeed the Xbox One. My reasoning is that other companies will eventually develop products with technology superior enough to the Xbox One that a permanent focus on the Xbox One will be financially unsustainable and Microsoft is a for-profit company.

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

oh please, if they can control the rover in real time from the earth, of course you can stream ps4 games at 1080p+60fps on your cell phone with no lag. of course.

anyone noticed that the moon is gray? white? creamy? of course mars is red. orange. green. yeah.  but the rover thingie is so true.

same as cloud based hardcore gaming.

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

@NetGod  What bollocks you talk. XBOne was announced as having a disc drive from the word 'go'. A couple of months wasn't long enough for Microsoft to remove Kinect from all the console bundles, it certainly wouldn't have been long enough for them to implement a change from digital to physical or vice-versa.

dbene
dbene

@NetGod 

could have been digital only but not "software based" with no hardware capabilities.

I think they should continue to have digital and "concrete software" versions of the games but sell the digital copies for cheaper so it would encourage people to buy them and they would not lose money on rentals and/or resales.


Ex. Sell the physical copy of Forza 5 for $59.99 but offer it for digital download for $44.95. That $15 lost would more than make up for itself because the digital copy could never be loaned, rented, or resold. This seems like the obvious business model but no one is following. In fact, it is usually the opposite. On Xbox Live they were asking WAAAY more for the digital games than I could find them used in a store. 

blackace
blackace

@NetGod Only a million people wanted that though. The other 50+ million weren't going to buy it.

tightwad34
tightwad34

@BoozerX To be fair I have seen this same thing on other sites, and I am usually the first one to point out how bad the journalism is on this site(Eddie just happened to be the original one I noticed). Still is a very pointless point though.

123whatever
123whatever

@PSYCHOV3N0M look at it this way - technology only improves as much as there's interest in it. for example, if streaming technology is the future (and it is, like it or not) latency will improve because there will be a demand for it to do so. look how far its come in just the last 2-3 years..most people didn't even know these technologies existed until this generation of consoles came out. it'll take time, just as online games did when they first arrived... 56k modem, ultima online. 

Tremblay343
Tremblay343

@PSYCHOV3N0M If you buy a game digitally it's still on your system and running off of your console, there's just no disc.

surrealme
surrealme

@dragonkantus4They'll do it as soon as the increase in revenue from no longer having to manufacture and distribute physical discs is enough to offset the loss in revenue from the customers they'll lose. It's going to happen much sooner than you think.

123whatever
123whatever

@dragonkantus4 im sure you'd like to believe that, but thats not how it works. look at this generation - look at how the consoles launched world-wide... some people got it day 1... others, not so much. times change, but what doesnt change is how gaming industries run, and they run much like a race... against each other. whos got the  greater and more appealing system. when 1 swaps, so will the other... except nintendo. people without internet will always have nintendo. :P

nate1222
nate1222

@dragonkantus4 Agreed.

Even as a PC gamer who prefers DRM-free games (GOG, GamersGate, DotEmu, a lot of Humble Store's offerings), online multiplayer is heavily dependent on fast internet speeds. Even if one is only playing a DRM-free single player game -the time it takes to simply download it can become an issue. As far as streaming games? Just the nature os streaming comes packaged with internet access and speed.

123whatever
123whatever

@BranKetra they would have to... tv's change as much as consoles, hdmi is already on the way out in the next 3-5 years. A/V systems will eventually require a better decoder than what the xbox offers (which isnt that great as it is) i would like the link to this statement... maybe they we're refering to a streaming service themselves (xbox now, perhaps?)

123whatever
123whatever

@ZombieGuyGeorgethey can't control them in real-time. do a quick google search, they report delays up to 15 minutes between actions.

surrealme
surrealme

@ZombieGuyGeorgeUm, are you saying you think the mars rovers are a hoax and that mars should be the same color as the moon? They don't control them in real time. They send a set of instructions that are executed autonomously. I hope you're kidding and aren't really that incredibly ignorant.

rarson
rarson

@Tremblay343

Yeah, obviously some of these console gamers have never bought a digital game, because they don't seem to understand the difference between digital and streaming.

mav_destroyer
mav_destroyer

@Kraken422@mav_destroyer When I say indie games will put pressure on them, I mean by preventing greedy practices often associated with digital-only media. A lot of indie games offer DRM-free copies of their game so you still retain ownership, and there's no reason why you can't burn them on to your own disks and keep a physical copy with you. What I'm criticizing here is how big companies are using digital media to screw us over, not the digital media itself.
Though to be honest I will always prefer having physical copies of my games. That's just my personal preference.

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@123whatever@ZombieGuyGeorge so, back into the topic, you are willing to wait delays of 15 minutes between actions in your games... right....good luck playing that multiplayer game.

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@surrealme@ZombieGuyGeorge yeah im so ignorant i work on the cg industry and happen to know the guys that make the renders of the videos you believe are real. btw, the moon is not gray. and mars is not red.

rarson
rarson

@grove12345

Cloud processing has nothing to do with digital releases. Digital releases work by downloading the games to the hard drive before installing and playing them.

It's kind of funny that MS included a 500GB hard drive after switching to discs. Did they plan on including larger drives before the reversal? I would hope so, since a 500GB drive isn't going to hold a whole lot of full games.

grove12345
grove12345

@NetGod @blackace i still think MS is totally over exageratting what the cloud processing is currently capable of with regards to the average consumer, due to such limited internet speeds. Should of used that extra $100 price tag to have hardware to stomp PS4s hardware. Too late now. 


Im a supporter of xbox 360 and i think putting Win8 on a tablet is the best invention since smartphones, but XB1 needs some major major work to even compete to the PS4.


So i guess MS is saying you should go ahead and buy a XB1 and wait about 5 years b/c thats when the US will finally have decent speeds to play games on.

tightwad34
tightwad34

@rarson   I don't want to know the difference. It's really hard to accept something that is pretty much a 180 from what you have been used to your whole life. Then again when it comes to technology I'm still in the primitive stage. I just do not like the digital future that is ahead of us. I like things simple.

123whatever
123whatever

@ZombieGuyGeorge yeah, no? im refering to NASA, controlling a rover, 2 hundred million miles away, on a remote planet. smartass :P

surrealme
surrealme

@ZombieGuyGeorgeBefore you get too carried away patting yourself on the back, I've been doing professional CG work for over 20 years, including teaching 3d animation at the university level and doing work for the Pentagon, FEMA, Hughes Aerospace, National Geographic, and a few dozen others.  If you were my employee and talking this kind of unhinged bollocks I'd fire you on principle.

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@surrealme@ZombieGuyGeorge oh, no, nothing. it's just that I've been making fake photos and videos for the last 14 years, I think I can spot one when I see it.


of course, few people can call themselves experts, but as a matter of fact, im the expert that usually trains the experts. so I'd say I am really an expert.

not a genius, not a scientist, but I can spot details in photos people usually bypass, such as grain ratios and color threshold and slight variations in a photo or video that in the end, prove it's a fake.

but. you don't need to be a genius to compare a 90° shadow 5 meters away of a 30° shadow with a single light (the sun) and realize they don't match.

Also, wires can be seen  in both apolo 14 and apolo 16 missions.

but there.

there's not a worst kind of blindness than the one in the man that doesn't want to see.

want to believe everything the tv say is true? good. say hi to santa claus for me.

this tinfoil hat wearing moron is having fun with his imaginary computer.

surrealme
surrealme

@ZombieGuyGeorgeWTF does being certified by Adobe have to do with your complete ignorance of science? The only thing worse than a tinfoil hat wearing moron is one who thinks he's a genius. Stay in school kids.

korvus
korvus moderator

@ZombieGuyGeorge @bigruss51  You guys managing to keep civilised and playful in this discussion, but don't let it get to insults, ok? ^_^ Have a nice discussion.

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@bigruss51 "It’s not the truth I fear. It’s the people who won’t question what other humans tell them"

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@bigruss51 oh and I happen to be one of the experts certified from adobe :)
the radiation rings (called van allen rings) protecting earth also prevents from anything metallic to get out of the earth, meaning it will insta-fry anything inside metallic material getting past 60 000 kms. did you see any scorches on mr Armstrong? I didn't.

oh wait. im an ignorant. scratch all of that :(

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@bigruss51 :D thanks, bigruss51, that makes you loon number 2. that makes score loons=2 deludedearthlings=1

bigruss51
bigruss51

@surrealme@ZombieGuyGeorge It's been proven by experts that the photos of the moon landing where edited. Also there are radiation rings around the earth that protect it from space junk. The Russians where the first to discover these rings and had to turn around or face being disintegrated. The space shuttles and space suits back then where not designed to withstand radiation. Also Armstrong when questioned about the stars said he didn't see any only to change his answer years later.  

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@surrealme@ZombieGuyGeorge of course I am! they brought me from the moon. lunatic - luna=moon lunatic=habitant of the moon. there. you discovered me. im actually a guy from the moon. oh wait. im ignorant. no way I knew that.

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@surrealme yeah. im so ignorant i can't explain how they did it in a year of recession, with ancient technology and they haven't been able to achieve it again in the last 50 years even with technology a thousand times better.

and right, just because they saw a .004% of the moon surface they can say there's nothing but dust out there, right?

anyone seen the flag they planted lately? no? never? oh wait. maybe the guys that filmed the departure of the pod. or the arrival. if they were the first guys on the moon who took the photos? robots. yeah.

and there's no such thing as fake, right. so ironman DOES fly. and there's actually a dragon named Smaug.

yep. im so ignorant. but you DO believe in democracy right? better yet. ill burn in hell.

hey, for those who got popcorn, here's a good one.

http://www.distancetomars.com/