Microsoft: Xbox One indie policy will benefit kids and students

Executive Phil Spencer says positive outcome of the new policy is children and students will have opportunity to learn to build games.

The Xbox One's new policy for independent creators will benefit children and students, according to Microsoft Studios corporate vice president Phil Spencer.

"Opportunities for more kids/students to learn to program and build games is a great outcome of this policy," Spencer said on Twitter last night.

Microsoft's new policy for independent developers allows every person to be a creator and every Xbox One to be used for development.

The stance is a reversal of policy, as it was announced in May that independent creators could not self-publish on the next-generation platform.

Though every Xbox One system can be used as a development kit, this functionality will not be available when the console launches in November.

A number of questions regarding the policy remain, including details around revenue sharing, game promotion, how certification will work, and if creators will need to pay a fee or subscription to build games for the Xbox One.

Microsoft will share more details on the new program and its timeline at Gamescom in August.

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XBOunity
XBOunity

I bet one of these kids makes the sickest games.    Hopefully all the resources are given to the indies as well.  

deadly_yank33
deadly_yank33

i find it rather peculiar that sony deciding to go with triggers this generation and switch the "shoot" button from L1 to L2...isn't that very similar to the xbox controller? hmmm...only sony still fails at analog stick placement...and a useless, gimmicky touchpad in the center..with a LED light that drains the charge...well done sony.

angryguy77
angryguy77

reading the comments here, I for one hope MS gets involved in our schools. Clearly our education system could use the help because  they've failed to teach critical thought to many of you.

jophy
jophy

no longer xbox 1.0 . They should change to xbox 2.0 for so many updates and changes lol. Considering they are reversing so much policies, their sales is probably really weak now. Good choice, glad it finally hit them that they are not Gods and can't tell us whats good for us and say #dealwithit. Better late than never

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

wow sony fanboy continue to prove them slef to be the worst fanboys in the history of fanboys.  sony fanboys are like them idoits that don't like an artist at a festival and instead of going to see some one else they stand at the artist the supposedly don't like throwing bottles

Gamesfetch
Gamesfetch

Xbox one comes with Encarta preinstalled

wizemanschaos
wizemanschaos

Why is a company making money such a bad things? It seems like the main complaint Sony enthusiast have, is that Microsoft is doing this for profit and nothing more.... Seriously that is what a business does, if they are willing to listen to fans and naysayers it should be appreciated. For a company to overhaul a project as big as this so close to release deserves respect. I definitely look forward to this next gen and expect big things from both companies.

So keep in mind that everything these two companies are doing ultimately are for profit $ony, and M$ are not charities and if that is your biggest gripe with a company you must be very selective when it comes to brand loyalty.

DeViLzzz
DeViLzzz

MS will change their minds and say fuck the kids eventually.  Heck they will in a year's time after launch or a little more bring back all they wanted for the Xbox One.  Why couldn't they do it ?  Who would stop them ?   Why should anyone trust them when they flip flop so much ? 



.... and if this is about the kids will the schools across America get to buy the consoles at a discounted rate or have them given for free by MS to use in schools for educational reason ?  Huh MS ?  Will this be the case ?

Light_Blue_Wolf
Light_Blue_Wolf

So while the kids are designing their own games, the Xbox One's Spy cam [Kinect] will steal their ideas and relay them back to Microsoft so it can take them before the games get made? Brilliant!

evil_snuggles
evil_snuggles

If it was not for SONY mircoSCAM would still have all its anti- customer policies but the XBOTS can't understand that. No thank you microSCAM

epicgameresearc
epicgameresearc

MS allows indie developers to use XBOX ONE as a dev kit.  That's great, but what MS doesn't tell you in this PR is...

THEY ARE CHARGING HUNDREDS IN PUBLICATION FEES FOR INDIE DEVS.

So, you pay $499 for the box and pay hundreds in fees (they haven't said exactly how much, just "hundreds") .

Meanwhile, Sony has been distributing loaner PS4 dev kits for free (when asked) and charges almost nothing for publication.

C'mon MS...  you're still looking like bullsh!t artists  

ken4062
ken4062

Its a good idea but this is just backtracking from all the mistakes they admitted they are having made already. I dont feel this makes the console look like it was made well after so many backtracks. Obviously they got it all wrong the first time. Not confident with  a machine built for so many different purposes than it ended up being right now.

gosushi
gosushi

give the students a chance and don't do another u-turn in November XD

zintarr
zintarr

We at MS promise that the Xbox One will bring world peace and fluffy bunnies for all.

kbaily
kbaily

Ok Microsoft, uh why didn't you announce this at your reveal or E3 instead you wasted our time with stuff like TV and Skype as opposed to this which is cool and unique.  Though this sucks for the poor little Ouya.

punkpunker
punkpunker

next thing you know that the student are making their own version of COD.

Diegoctba
Diegoctba

Microsoft are the Helen Lovejoy of the next generation. Someone needs to think of the children.

Daian
Daian

Kids using a Xbox use it for being douchey on Xbox Live, not to create. Good luck with that.

Shanks_D_Chop
Shanks_D_Chop

"Oh look, that's actually a beneficial thing." 

"Wait, don't admit that maybe we had been wrong about something!"

"Good idea, I'll refer to it as a 'positive outcome'."

metal_zombie
metal_zombie

@XBOunity I thought the same but when i was playing LBP i noticed that all they really did is rip off other peoples work even some the original stuff that came out of LBP end up being rehashed by other user.

northArrow
northArrow

@deadly_yank33 I'm not crazy about the deulshock controllers either, but at this point it's still better than getting saddled with a useless, gimmicky Kinect

deadly_yank33
deadly_yank33

@jophy are you confused? when something gets changed for the better...whatever in the world that may be....it does not all of the sudden become worse...the xbox one is making the playstion 4 look like a playstation 3.5- graphics upgrade is all it's got going for it

sk8rjason
sk8rjason

@jtthegame316 You need to learn to spell, or at least invest in a spell checker before you start throwing stones little boy. Everything that MS has announced since E3 about the Xbox One has been not only a reversal of everything they said at E3, but a blatant rip-off of what Sony did announce. But you know what is even more important, games. And no matter how much back tracking and flip flopping MS does they still only have crappy exclusives. Halo, dead. Gears of War, dead. Fable, who cares. The only "exclusive" with any potential is Titanfall, and Respawn has already said that a PS4 release for it is possible. And when they see sales pretty low, and they will since you are getting half a game for full price, they will hurry up and release it on PS4 as well.

Operational117
Operational117

@jtthegame316 I used to side with them (before the policy reversal), but now I'm putting myself at a very great distance.

Their points pre-reversal were just the same as what I hated about the Xbox One, but now they're just trying to find excuses and/or reject the existance of some changes. Really, it's gotten so out of hand, I'm starting to feel ashamed I ever DID side with them.

But after all this shit, I'll still be wary of Microsoft.

... my comment might as well get attacked by stubborn fanboys, so oh well. Let'em have it!

angryguy77
angryguy77

@DeViLzzz  

 And sony could flip flop and decide to use the DRM patent they have.

They could flip flop and decide to include an eye if the kinect proves it's worth.

 I find you drones so funny while you defend the company that thought rootkit was the right thing to do.

Light_Blue_Wolf
Light_Blue_Wolf

@DeViLzzz   The schools that get computers by Microsoft will now only be able to purchase them in a bundle that includes an Xbox One. Yay!

angryguy77
angryguy77

@evil_snuggles  

Or if it wasn't for MS testing the waters, Sony would've tried it themselves. They do after all have a DRM tech patent. 

It wasn't sony that made MS reverse, it was ignorance and lazy consumers afraid of change. Sad that you exalt our next gen machines being kept in 2005.

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

@kbaily but they showed pure games at e3 you must be talking about the reveal 

s_h_a_d_o
s_h_a_d_o

@kbaily 

Because, this is merely PR spin and retroactive damage control.

Spid3r6
Spid3r6

@kbaily I think they have to hold there chips...anything Sony does Microsoft is matching....Sony can't match everything because the PS4 is and updated version of PS3 with a better network....I mean look at Sony has a announced since E3...You can play while downloading games...Thats about it..Meanwhile MS has been on the News a lot with new features of the controller of the Kinect and now the ability to make games on a game console...I mean like Project Spark was not enough.

bigmikeOK
bigmikeOK

@kbaily That's why they have a new division chief for Xbox in the form of Julie Larson-Green. It doesn't take a genius to know that there were some bad policies in place and it seems like she is QUICKLY cleaning house to make the Xbox platform more competitive out the gate.

JynxGSpot
JynxGSpot

@deadly_yank33 @jophy Amen. If you people really want amazing graphics, you'd be going to PC; as it is the best in that category of gaming.

angryguy77
angryguy77

@sk8rjason

Did MS copy Sony, or did Sony make their system like the 360?

Going back to an old policy is not "copying" anything.

Only a child would scream copying and use it as something to cry about.

You're the last one to be calling someone a child.

JynxGSpot
JynxGSpot

@angryguy77 @DeViLzzz Glad someone brought up the rootkit; many of you seem to be forgetting the plans that Sony also had. So ask yourself the same questions. 

Why couldn't Sony do it? What would stop them? Why should anyone trust them when, they too, have made mistakes? 

You know what's stopping them? Consumer rights. If a person without internet has an Xbox One or PS4 that suddenly turns into an always online device, the person can report the product under 'faulty goods'. 

What do you think would happen to a company when it has received a bad reputation for faulty goods or problems with the use of the product? It crumbles. No company, especially successful ones such as Sony and Microsoft, would dare to let their company collapse just because they think, "fuck the kids" with no profitable benefit what so ever; only a major loss.

You make Sony fans look like complete idiots.

JynxGSpot
JynxGSpot

@Light_Blue_Wolf Anyone with simple knowledge of dissecting a machine is able to see where data is going and coming from. If they were to find information going to the NSA, it would surely be reported and it would spread like wildfire and Microsoft would crumble. No company would ever attempt to take that risk just to watch you masturbate and make games.

JynxGSpot
JynxGSpot

@angryguy77 @evil_snuggles Technology continues to advance in intelligence and capability because companies like Microsoft continue to take risks and make changes in the industry.

"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

Basically what he's saying is, "To move into the future, you have to forget about the paradigms of the past."

JynxGSpot
JynxGSpot

@ALCHEMISTx24x7 Actually, publication fees are non-existent.

They partnered with Unity3D for Windows 8.1. This means that anyone will have resources from Unity to create their own apps on Windows and have it transfer onto the Live Marketplace. If they are allowing this, then , surely, self publishing from your home would be simple if you are getting it into a user created category of the marketplace. (such as user created maps in Happy Wheels, Minecraft, Project Spark, Sims etc.) 

So in response, $500 for the box + knowledge of coding and programming = your own game/app. Definitely sounds better than $2500; Keeping in mind PS4 dev kits won't be just handed out to all the millions of teenagers that want to get into the gaming industry. 

sk8rjason
sk8rjason

@angryguy77 Really? That's all you have got? MS has never really been indie friendly. They were slightly more then Sony was until this last 2 years when Sony led the way to help indie devs get their games into the hands of gamers. Under MS ways we never would have seen Journey, The Cave, Guacamelee, Unfinished Swan, and countless others. So no way you can even hint that changing stance on indie devs is "going back to old policy" That is a blatant ripoff of Sony.

sk8rjason
sk8rjason

@JynxGSpot Actually JynxGCrock, you need to check your facts as well. Respawn got another company to develop the 360 port, and if you look with open eyes both EA and Respawn have been less then willing to outright say it's a MS exclusive. And we have all seen it before with Mass Effect, GTA IV DLC packs, Bioshock, Limbo and many others that were touted as MS exclusives only to end up on PS3.

JynxGSpot
JynxGSpot

@angryguy77 @sk8rjason Not to mention half of his argument was based on personal preference on the exclusives. 

Kid, Respawn will not be making the birth of a PS4 version of Titanfall. They found another team to develop it but, while it will be a great game on the PS4, have said it won't be be on par with the Xbox One version as many of the features would not exist due to time and resources.