Microsoft's Spencer considers the future of Gears of War

"Maybe take it more gritty," says Microsoft Games Studios VP.

Microsoft executive Phil Spencer has spoken about the future of the Gears of War series, saying that the series would need to "expand what it was" in order to continue onto the Xbox One.

"I want to find a great Gears game," said Spencer on IGN's Podcast Unlocked (transcription via GameRevolution).

It has been the first active discussion of the future of the Gears of War series since Gears of War: Judgment launched earlier in the year, which did not accomplish the same critical and sales success of former games in the series.

"I thought we did a good job with Judgment," said Spencer, "but I don't think it hit the level of quality we saw in the previous games. I think review scores showed that. Sales showed that. I really think we'd need to take a step back with Epic and think about... I don't want to call it a reboot because I think it's an overused term but think about where that franchise goes and how to expand what it was."

"I'd love to have that conversation," he continued. "I do talk to the Epic guys often. They're also busy right now. I think they've said Gears is kind of on the back burner for them. So I think it would be a situation when the opportunity came up at the right time it'd be great to sit down with them."

Spencer, whose role at the Xbox maker is as vice-president for Microsoft Games Studios, insists that Epic is "the right team to work" on any future Gears of War games. "Trying to find another team to do that game I think is possible, but you'd want to make sure you did that very carefully along with them to make sure we had the right thing in place," he added.

Spencer has previously spoken about his fondness for the Crackdown series, and his desire to see it return at the right time. But how does he think a new Gears of War should look?

"I think that franchise would need to be... not reworked but you'd need to think about how to expand the universe and what people are doing," he mused. "Maybe take it more gritty, I don't know. You'd want to do something with it, because I think it did run its course on 360. And it was a great success on the 360, but it doesn't quite have a story arc of a thing like Halo or something, at least the way it's played out in the games."

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JimmyDM90
JimmyDM90

I'd play a gears that was set on another planet (something with a very different aesthetic from the monochromatic originals) Maybe there's a group of explorers/colonists that are being accompanied by Gears as sort of an armed escort. You and a team of colonists are going into investigate something (signs of alien life, etc.)' there's an attack from an alien species we've never seen before. You and your team are stranded miles and miles from your home base and you have to fight your way back trying to keep everyone alive. Could be a little more of an action/horror vibe like Alien.

AyatollaofRnR
AyatollaofRnR

The story has run its course. Might as well start on a fresh idea.

Hurvl
Hurvl

"Maybe take it more gritty," I thought it already was gritty, in that macho men way of killing equally muscular humanoid aliens and other stuff that warrants bragging among men. Will they make next GoW grimdark to make it more gritty? Hire Christopher Nolan to make it more gritty?

raddys2001
raddys2001

Cmon enough is enough you guys ended the series stop trying to squeeze more money out of it and move on.

Link3301
Link3301

They should bring back UT.

skullomania2
skullomania2

This is why I no longer support consoles. Once a corporation decides a game is finished, it is finished. No MODS, Mutators, and dropped support across the board.  This game was the only reason I purchased a 360. Gears of War 3 is still in the top 20 on xbox live.  While GOWJ no longer ranks.  Instead of making Horde mode 3.0, beast mode 2.0. for money, They shut the whole game down to make something new for money. Something that nobody wanted.  I can only hope, that somehow this game makes it to PC, so that it will live Forever and grow with the a huge community that still loves it.   Because one day deja vu will strike again. As Microsoft will once again pull the plug on its console while someone is still playing. 

NTM23
NTM23

Hm, I'm reading the wiki now, and there's actually way more to the story than I thought or even remembered. 

NTM23
NTM23

Weirdly enough, my brother and I were just talking about sequels for this series two days ago as we played co-op on three since he wanted to play it. I love Gears of War, and I think from a story perspective, while it ended, they can still do so much; the only problem is finding an enemy to fight, unless you wanted to make it so you're fighting humans. The one thing mechanically that I wish was in all the Gears games, is being able to change over the shoulder as you aim at will. It's not entirely necessary, but it'd be nice. While I do think there'll be a sequel/prequel in the future, before then, it'd be really great if they put out the trilogy, but make all of the gameplay and visuals consistent all the way through, making it feel like one large game (same goes for a bunch of trilogies on current-gen really).

Something that I think would be neat is, if they made a sequel or prequel, have it flash back in moments, giving you some breathing room between action, to explore a time and the world of Sera as it was before any of the big wars that went on. When it comes to sequels, there's quite a bit they could do, like having you go search for Sofia (the female character in Judgement), as well as explaining exactly who the locust queen was, because that's really just up to guess work, when I'd like to just know. If you're into Gears of War's story, even a bit, and haven't done so, I advise reading the books. Dom's outcome may be sad just by the game, but it's enhanced even more if you read the books, and well... Other stuff. 

I think the first Gears of War's still the best (if only slightly), then three < two < Judgement, did I do that correctly? Anyways, I think it spans from really great (Judgement) to near perfect (the first). As much as I like Gears of War, I'm not at all blind to their flaws, and the statement of Judgement not succeeding like the previous ones is very much true, but it's still great fun I think. I didn't really like how they took the game in some ways though, making it feel more arcadey, and while I liked the characters enough, the story wasn't anything special at all. It didn't intrigue me quite like the other ones did. I'm not sure how the length compares to the other ones, but it felt like a shorter experience as well.

CoUGHB
CoUGHB

So many Gears of War haters up in here. I'd love to see another Gears of War game. Next time around please grant the studio a bit more time to develop the game and do not undermine to value of a great multiplayer experience, cooperative and competitive. Gears of War 3's campaign was amazing and if you can top that, you've done right in that department. 

OhSnapitz
OhSnapitz

Gears of War "ran it's course" with pt 3.  Judgement was completely unnecessary and a clear money grab.  I loved the gears series and I've never played judgement nor do I have the desire to play it.  Sometimes companies need to just let a series run it's course, then start a new project.  Milking of series is the reason I no longer support Nintendo.. 

kidflash2000
kidflash2000

They should have taken Insomniac's approach with Resistance and realized there could have been series fatigue, but no, they had to try and make one more game...really wasnt a smart move

Sun-Tzu-GE
Sun-Tzu-GE

Yeah,just what I thought...All you suckers will see on the xbone is Halo and Gears of war.Enjoy your little launch window exclusives because 2 years from now you won't see anything else. 

JLCrogue
JLCrogue

C'mon Epic Games... bring back the Unreal Tournament series and make it more epic! Your name is Epic Games for Christ's sake!

Cronyk
Cronyk

What IS Epic working on right now? (besides UE4). OHH YA.... that Fortnite game that we havent heard about in ages.... umm.. cant think of anything else....

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

How about expanding on the universe? I'd like to have seen what happened during the pendulum wars.

Catz_03
Catz_03

I wish they would have held out with GoW: Judgement and just made a next gen Gears for launch.

robertcain
robertcain

I don't see how you can make Gears of War more gritty when it already boasts arguably the most brutal and merciless combat ever seen in a third person shooter. Still, where could they go with the series? The trilogy is done and the prequel didn't really set the gaming world on fire.

Queuingreturns
Queuingreturns

Make it multi-platform and watch the sales go through the roof.

If you keep it on Xbone then you'll only hurt yourselves. Gears has become too scrub friendly.

HaughtyMoose
HaughtyMoose

Epic games, 

1. Bring back character movement and gunplay element from Gow 3 then improve it. ( character movement in  judgement are suck ass!!)

2. Weapon balance from judgement (before any damn retarded patch !!)

3. Map design from Gow 1 

4. Not noob friendly. (Why people rewarding for sucking ?

5.Better spwan system (impove it...for god sake)

6 We NEED A GOD DAMN BOMB GAME TYPE!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

Not so hard...right?

dallask
dallask

Pendulum Wars, prequel. 

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

still not got round to getting judgement but i will.  look forward to an xbox one version

MJ12-Conspiracy
MJ12-Conspiracy

they could just end it and go back to.....IDK Unreal Tournament? an actual Unreal 3??? or reboot Unreal as something genuinely cool and not dumb like the original games were....sorry but Quake and Quake II had better architecture, I just had a better sense of what to do and where to go in those games, Unreal always had a confusing feel to it and I liked Quake's weapons better.....sue me, I am an Id fan.....

I wouldn't mind seeing another Bulletstorm over another Gears game.......just cut back on the cussing in the next one.....I mean I have a sailor's mouth myself and even I was like I can't believe this......

blackace
blackace

GoW: Judgement wasn't even made by Epic & Cliffy B., no it's not surprised that it failed. I would love to see a new Gears on XBox One, but I would also like to see a NEW IP. Maybe a RTS wargame with a team of soldiers.

danielmbg
danielmbg

I loved Gears of War, one of the best games I ever played, but really, people need to know when to end. Gears of War ended on the third one. Enough wit it. It would be way better if they made new IP, instead of using the same game over and over again.

obsequies
obsequies

put it on pc or I'm not buying it

dmastor
dmastor

This web-site is a piece of crap can't find articles half the time 

uuffoouu
uuffoouu

I want this series to end. I loved it and even though judgement wasn't the highest note to end on, I was done at gears 3. It was an amazing experience, game play and how it affected me emotionally. I just don't even want anymore. If there was going to be another gears, give it a nice amount of years. Not developer hell, but at least 3 felt years. This series is great, I don't want that bitter taste in my mouth from games pushed every year and I am kinda done with it.

joce667
joce667

@VegasDawg  Yes it was , people can fly was bought by epic games . But i see what you mean . 


KiLLLeR150
KiLLLeR150

"More gritty"? Any more gritty and well... I don't know, but it sure as hell seems gritty enough already.

VegasDawg
VegasDawg

Gears had some of the best game play of all time, sadly the founders of Epic are no longer with the company , Gears may be dead.Judgement was not made by Epic.

001011000101101
001011000101101

Would be refreshing to see a big company retire a well-known brand like that. The games pretty much got worse and worse for each game, and from a story standpoint, it's always been absolutely horrible. 

Megavideogamer
Megavideogamer

The Xbox one does need a "Gears of War" impact of an new franchise for the Xbox one and 8th gen. Unlikely if Epic games can deliver that game. Gears of War should not return until the 9th generation of Videogames. after 5-6 years The people will be ready for the return of Gears of war. Grand theft Auto series is not a yearly franchise taking a 5-6 yr break does help videogame sales. and peoples fondness for games.

cousinmerl
cousinmerl

I liked gears of war but judgement felt annoying especially after dropping the third side arm and horde mode - why did they do that!!

new IP me thinks, but use the 3rd person mode and horde mode in the design.

euphoric666
euphoric666

ho the lack of creativity... can't you guys come with new franchises?  the very creator of this franchise have abandoned her... get over it.

trivolution
trivolution

A lot of game franchises have endured the tides of time.  There are ups and downs as well.  GTA V was an up but Judgement was one of the downs.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

Epic is "the right team to work" on any future Gears of War games. "Trying to find another team to do that game I think is possible..."

??? I do not understand. I thought that Epic owned the IP.  Why does it sound like Microsoft bought out those rights??

Epic could print money by having all the games on PS4 updated with a game of the year edition. Also could fix problems with Gears of war Judgement. 

DESTROYRS_F8
DESTROYRS_F8

I'm a GoW fan, but 3 was enough for me.  What they need to do is bring a fresh new Unreal Tournament.

CriticalCritic
CriticalCritic

I'll bet $20 they make Gears 4 despite the fact the story ended at 3. They did that with Halo, it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to ruin another series.

DamnILoveGames
DamnILoveGames

Why would they stop making them? What sort of insane corporation quits making a product that brings in a lot of money? Gears of War will stop being made when people stop buying it.

yahboo22
yahboo22

@NTM23 If you were reading the wiki they might of included things from the books.

yahboo22
yahboo22

@NTM23 I agree with so many of your points. 

The first think I am going to talk about is where I think they could make a fantastic campaign.  I don't know if you ever read the books, but the COG was at war and there was a 6 week peace period before E-day.  I think they could make a really good campaign if they started a game while in the Pendulum Wars, go through E-Day, and end right after the hammer strikes.  With that being the story you would be able to fight humans, see a brief period of piece, and then have to fight for your life with the people you were just trying to kill.

Second I really agree with the order you put the games in even though Gears 1 and 3 were nearly identical for me (as in I absolutely loved both.)  I still have Judgement just because I don't like to trade in any of my Gears games, but Judgment really upset me when I play it.  I felt like I was playing GoW, but at the same time I felt like I was playing CoD with a new paint job.  I HATED how online multiplayer went from Gears v Locusts to Gears v Gears.  There was still a lot of fun to be found in the game, but as a Gears fan Judgment did not sit well with me. 

I really do hope they bring the game to next-gen with a game that is before E-Day and ending at hammer strikes.  Maybe they can show how Delta Squad started to form.  I don't know, I just have a lot of thoughts and really want another game. 

raddys2001
raddys2001

@kidflash2000  

Agree I love the resistance series but the story ended with three and they should keep it that way look what happened with GOW this year it was a great game but when reading the reviews people felt it was much of the same thing. 

NTM23
NTM23

@blackace I think it was partially, then he left as they were making it.

blackace
blackace

@001011000101101 I wish Ratchet & Clank would end. It's been downhill since it left the PS2. Final Fantasy as well.

Xvault77
Xvault77

@euphoric666 So true. The creator has enough sense left  to leave the filth of MS. 

PSYCHOV3N0M
PSYCHOV3N0M

@CriticalCritic To be fair, despite them using "Finish The Fight" as part of Halo 3's tag line, the story technically didn't end because MC & Cortana were left stranded in space floating near some large planet-sized structure. OBVIOUSLY the ending told me that there would be a Halo 4.

A-Typing-Llama
A-Typing-Llama

@DamnILoveGames I'm all for another GoW game, but yeah, I don't think I want to see an annual release with no fresh ideas and more DLC than you could poke a stick at.

themc_7
themc_7

@DamnILoveGames is that what you want? another franchise milked until you hate it. They should've stopped after Gears 3.

raddys2001
raddys2001

@kidflash2000  

Its one of the reasons why I also feel that the Last of Us should not get a sequel.  It had a unique game and story but the game play will be played out by the time they keep making sequels. 

DamnILoveGames
DamnILoveGames

@themc_7 @DamnILoveGames Of course not, but many other people with lacking knowledge of the games industry will continue to buy it because of the brand name, probably. The same goes for COD.

kidflash2000
kidflash2000

@raddys2001 @kidflash2000 i agree, i forgot about GOW though, but if they do a sequel TLOU...idk it can work if it is like a 20 years later thing. But really the same thing is being done with too many game series, including AC4, they tried to take it in a new direction but maybe that direction wasnt quite drastic enough to really spice up the series like it needed. Honestly i think what both next gen consoles really need is new IP's instead of relying on the old series.  Gears, and Halo have been the selling point for Xbox for way too long now, and they should be more interested in Titanfall, and that game with time slowing down(Quantum something? idk) and making those as great as they can. Same thing with the PS4, they need to make The Order: 1886, and other new IP's great instead of say making a GOW with PS4 graphics