Microsoft responds to Xbox One 1080p controversy

Corporate vice president Phil Harrison says "clearly" the Xbox One's eSRAM is not too small for 1080p output; just look at Forza V and Kinect Sports Rivals, he says.

High-ranking Xbox executive Phil Harrison has responded to the latest round of controversy surrounding the Xbox One and its ability to support 1080p resolution. After Sniper Elite developer Rebellion Games suggested this week that the Xbox One's eSRAM might be to blame for many games not running in 1080p on Xbox One, Harrison said on Twitter "clearly that's not the case."

"Forza V runs at 1080p. Kinect Sports Rivals also 1080p…," he added.

Sony has time and again labeled the PS4 the most powerful console ever created, and many high-profile multiplatform games like Call of Duty: Ghosts, Battlefield 4, and Tomb Raider perform better, visually, on Sony's machine compared to Microsoft's. But this might not always be the case.

Sniper Elite 3 senior producer Jean-Baptiste Bolcato said he's sure the Xbox One development process will get better over time and developers will be able to achieve 1080p more regularly.

"We were worried six months ago and we are not anymore," he said at the time. "It’s got better and they are quite comparable machines. The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex. There's stuff you can and can't do because it’s a sort of multimedia hub. PS4 doesn't have that. PS4 is just a games machine."

For more on the exact technical differences between the Xbox One and PS4, check out this chart.

Sony has previously said the reason why PS4 games sport better visual performance is because the console is the system developers want. Meanwhile, Microsoft has said that "these little things get way overblown" about the 1080p/60fps debate.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

".....The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex. There's stuff you can and can't do because it’s a sort of multimedia hub. PS4 doesn't have that. PS4 is just a games machine."

You know some people just want a games machine first, I think the most important thing a video game console should do is play video games. Also it would seem 13.4 million other people just want a console to play games on first and youtube second.  

justerthought
justerthought

Just because MS customise the code in an exclusive game to maximise on the limitations of the ESRAM and actually manage to run a game at 1080p, does not mean there isn't a problem with it.

Devs make multi-platform games using a generic game engine. They cannot afford to re-write all the base code for one platform in order to get around the weak ESRAM. They just have to optimise it the best they can which means 900p.

michael39238
michael39238

Worst possible timing for a console release. Right when 4K is making inroads.  The X360 supported 1080p right as HD was becoming mainstream.  Looks like Microsoft and Sony rushed it to be the first to market.  Seems like the XONE is good if you want a slightly better X360 and have extra cash sitting around (and extra space, since its not backwards compatible and wow, go figure, gamers like to play their existing games.)

fredderf81
fredderf81

we purchased a xbox one - regrettably...have been looking forward to lego the hobbit...got the game 2 days ago, started playing it last night...had to switch to 720p from 1080p because the gameplay became choppy in large areas *sigh*. this thing is basically XBOX 360 V2.0  . lego the hobbit is a simply awesome game...but not on xbox. save yourself a lot of disappointment and just buy a PS4. if you already have purchased the ONE...sell it, count your losses and try to enjoy the PS4. 

KamuiFei
KamuiFei

Microsoft needs to shut up for once and stop with the excuses. You don't hear Sony apologizing for their consoles' shortcomings, at least not as much as MS.


PS4 was built with games in mind, yet you still have a multimedia device to stream music, movies and TV shows with Netflix, Hulu Plus and other major apps. So besides PS4 being cheaper, more powerful, and designed for gaming, you also have the main functions Xbone claims to be better at, except you don't need PSN+ to use them.


Seriously MS, what is your next excuse going to be?

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

I knew that the "too small" comment was going to be the main thing that stuck with people. 

Larouche911
Larouche911

"PS4 is just a games machine". Yeah.. That's kind of all I need and want.

thatguy2001
thatguy2001

I am an Xbox One owner, but I now regret my decision. I will now be selling it and for now sticking with my PC and when the PS4 is available again here, I will now get one of those. Microsoft did a good job with the original xbox and the xbox360, how they failed so miserably this time is beyond me. I just want to play games on my console, i don't care about all this other 'multimedia' crap.


Everything just seems to be going so wrong for them at the moment. What a real shame as i have always enjoyed playing the xbox.

blackciti
blackciti

 "PS4 is just a games machine."


Exactly. That is what a console is suppose to be in the first place. Why does M$ insist that they need to reinvent the wheel? This is old news now, no doubt, but apparently they are worried that PS4 is killing them in sales. Nobody cares about a system that can do everything that everything in my house that I already paid for can do but better lol. Just make a system with exclusive games that I can play.


I have no interest in either system because currently the games seem to be remakes of games of yore. But when the games start to get a little interesting then the PS4 will be my new friend lol.

zintarr
zintarr

Its like a guy with a 3 incher telling himself that size does not matter.

Vividnightmare
Vividnightmare

The fact that the Ps4 is starting off SO much stronger in 1080p though shows which one has the raw horse power and the learning curve to really get cranked out. I remember after the Ps2 gen went by Sony was still claiming the full power of the console had never been tapped. HD is old news, we're seeing 4k and even 12k sets now and I've seen some 4k's locally. Gaming is about being AHEAD of the curve, not on it or behind it. While neither console will really do 4k gaming, the point is doing 1080p should be nothing for either console out the gate. That isn't 'new', I mean the 360 and Ps3 both supported HD, so why should either console struggle with a tech that was already happening when the last gen started? Also the fact that multiplatform games are 1080p on one and not the other is a big deal because that means there is a difference to the developers. The worst defense M$ has for this is that they're lowering Res to preserve frame rate (which they used for CoD:G), because that's a clear admittance that the console can't do what the Ps4 can. But thing like Titanfall not being in 1080p on X1? When you're exclusives aren't in full HD that's just shameful in this generation of gaming. I mean Steam Machines will hit the market in maybe 6 months, my guess is by the end of the year SM's will have some 4k games on it and the X1 will still have titles in 720p or whatever messed up not 1080p res they use(960?).

NX75
NX75

" The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex."


What does that mean? I've seen this parroted about a few times, but I have no idea what this vague sentiment means in any specific terms. It's more "multimedia?" What? That's not even a proper sentence. They've both got Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc., storefronts to buy games, music, and movies, and all the same apps. They both even have motion-sensing cameras that no one wants to use, so what exactly does anyone mean when they say the Xbox One is more multimedia? It's nonsense. It's just a hollow excuse for it being less powerful. The real reason is that Microsoft got cheap with it and decided it was powerful... enough.


And that's too bad, especially when they charge a hundred bucks more than their competition. That's not a good thing--it's nothing to tout. For all of you who own an Xbox One, though, it's fine to admit the truth. You don't have a good PC and you're too eager to move into the next gen to play it on the ol' 360, so you bought an Xbox One for Titanfall, right? Well that's fine. Your purchase is still justified if the exclusives are worth playing the lesser versions of every multiplatform game this generation. Is it worth it? That's up to you. But you don't need to pretend that the issue doesn't exist in order to justify your decision. Go ahead and admit that it's less powerful and that that's unfortunate, but that you're willing to put up with it so you can play Halo. When you stop trying to cover up, downplay, and spin bad news, and just own up to the facts, then you can focus on being honest with yourself and decide what you really want most: those exclusives, or a more powerful console for every other game. You can still feel entirely justified with your Xbox One in the end, because there's no arguing with opinion.

nigelholden
nigelholden

I must be old because the last thing I want in a "games machine" is all this hub crap. If I have to walk 5 feet to change the source, so be it. Not a big deal. That said, I'm sure xbox will have some great games, but for my money, I'm sticking to a dedicated system.

Kooken58
Kooken58

"Forza V runs at 1080p. Kinect Sports Rivals also 1080p…," he added.


Really? Are they honestly using these 2 games as an excuse. Previous gen racing games have been full HD...and Kinect Sports? My freaking Smartphone could run it at full HD.  60 FPS and HD might not matter to some...But I for one would like to see next gen games running smoother instead of a sad Sub 60 fps. There are even games that drop below 30 fps on Xbox One, and this is supposed to last us 10 years? 

gaijingamer7
gaijingamer7

What is this multi-media hub nonsense? 


a PS2 was a multi-media hub. It could play games, CD's and DVD's. 


why is the xbone getting a pass like it's doing something special that has never been done before?

dmblum1799
dmblum1799

It's ironic that just to the left of this article there's a post saying Titanfall - a signature title - won't run at 1080p. When they say "entertainment hub" they're really just saying "we want all the money you spend on rental movies coming through us". I endure they same crap on Windows 8.. I really hate that company.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

I continue hearing how its not that great of difference in power and that XB1 will get better as if PS4 will stand still. 

It is clear that XB1 is more limited and though with time it will get better its handicap against PS4 will also continue going forward, as PS4 has more room to grow.   

ChiefFreeman
ChiefFreeman

Hey Phil,  you should have never left Sony. Payback's a bitch , and so is the Xbox One.

Leeric420
Leeric420

My iPod also runs Vice City at 1080p whats your point Microsoft? 

darkrayne
darkrayne

Both consoles are shit. Who cares about the resolution right now? Where are all the games? How long they been out now? 3-4 months? Where the fuck are the games....? It'll be time for the next...next.. gen by the time we see some games.

Xenro4
Xenro4

"Kinect Sports Rivals also 1080p" - Because THAT is hard..
Sorta seems like they're saying "Yeah but! Yeah but!"

OneStrong2
OneStrong2

Games, not system specs, should be definitive of what makes a system. The Ps4 has yet to distinguish itself, and I don't think I've been running through kill-streaks on COD and been like, "Hey, that guy didn't die at 1080p! Better use resolution piercing rounds next loadout." Currently, both systems looks PCish, but necessarily next gen. Time will tell if Microsoft made wiser decisions in developing a system that does more than play games.  Until then, while Sony might have done a great job, creating a great system, I wish the Sony fanboys would quit yelling "1080p", cause well, that's one thing we have over Microsoft. 

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

The Ps4 has an edge in terms of graphical out put. They have 6 more GCN cores and faster memory which is great but that most definitely is not the game breaker. While the X1 has 12 GCN cores running at higher frequencies and slower DDR3 with ESRAM to hopefully allow for better IQ. The xbox one can do more and has a slightly faster cpu. The ps4 was built for 1080P and AA and AF and what ever cool new effects both consoles will have. The xbox one oddly is not going to be able to handle 1080P but will have all the effects but AA and AF will be question marks. I am an xbox one owner and because the game selection at this point in time is better I am not disappointed. The PS3 was not for me.. Heavy rain.. mehhh.. vs Alan Wake better but mehhh... Uncharted was there bread and butter and the 2nd one was the best. I did not get to play the last of us, unfortunately I sold my ps3 slim to do fan noise that was unbearable.


Bottom line is don't base your decision on 1080P 60 fps. Unless your building a PC. You should shoot for 1440P and up and 60 FPS and extreme settings.


Base your decision on which company brings you the games you wan to play because at the end of the day the x1's upscaler will be very similar with image quality to the ps4 on all third party titles.


The PS4 should be able to pull a bit more magic with their exclusives but don't discount the fact that MS has more resources and the better infrastructure to change and evolve. If your an online player for FPS games the X1 is where you probably would want to spend your cash.

ahpuck
ahpuck

I do believe the xbone will eventually get all 1080p games, in the meantime it's fun to make fun of it. Especially cause it irks the heck out of microsoft.

seanmcgee87
seanmcgee87

I love how people are trolling, and losing their minds over a consoles ability to play these games in 1080P at 60FPS. If the game is above 30 FPS and has decent graphics you will enjoy it. But no, limit yourself to games based on refresh rates and resolutions guys. When 4K tv's come out and NOT ONE of these consoles can do 2160P at 60FPS, you can cry yourselves to sleep. I will continue to play games on any console based solely on whats fun for me. I do not fanboy limit myself like the ignorant "truth knowing f***tards".

PC, PS4, Xbox One - They all play great games, so stop bickering.

hakesterman
hakesterman

@jenovaschilld I have both systems and i find myself playing on my XB1 almost twice as much.  The colors look brighter and more natural on my XB1 and Forza is Amazing.  Also the controller feels more natural in my hands than the PS4 Controller.  I have absolutely no regrets buying my XB1.

Carrig90
Carrig90

@justerthought maybe they want to release games years later in HD version ... That's a shame, but, hey, im just happy with my ps4 im not trying to justify my buy like xb1 fanboys !

Total_mischief
Total_mischief

@NX75  You can switch between your TV and X1 with a voice command...so...yeah there's that. Yay.

dmblum1799
dmblum1799

@darkrayne  


I would have bought a PS4 yesterday but the games drought just put me off. I think it's a function of developers being torn between next gen and last gen. There are so many last gen units dwarfing next gen units in terms of customers so there's incentive to keep going last gen.

lonesamurai1
lonesamurai1

@darkrayne That's just one of the major problems with consoles and gamers who game on them only is you have to start all over again with games and waiting, I can't imagine what it must be like to only game on consoles and have to drag out last gen consoles just to have something to play that is if you haven't already gotten rid of them to pay for the new consoles.

stevenstreet483
stevenstreet483

@darkrayne  True, fortunately the previous gen consoles have good games still coming out. But the next gen drought is pretty terrible.

northArrow
northArrow

@guitarist1980 MS has more resources and infrastructure but they've already shown it's not going towards what they need most - new game IP's. Instead of growing a stable of game developers that could rival Sony's pedigree, those resources are squandered other things - like TV shows. 


Granted I'm a little more harsh on Microsoft because I consider myself a disgruntled 360 owner, I'm frustrated by the complete dearth of quality exclusives seen on my console for the last 3 years, nor am I finding anything outside of Quantum Break appealing on the One.

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@ahpuck not that important I am more concerned about the effects and the new gaming idea's these game designers can produce with the new consoles. For consoles 1080p vs 720P I could barely tell the difference. Not sure why that is. On PC its a massive difference. But that usually has to do with your monitor and how it relays images not at its native resolution.

Kooken58
Kooken58

@seanmcgee87 The thing is the games pretty much look exactly like last gen games and most of them are running at 720p and barely managing to maintain 60fps in some cases 30 fps. What do you think is going to happen when we see more demanding games in terms of visuals?  The xbox one is going to struggle, the developers are going to be forced to do Sub HD resolution and 30fps instead of 60.

Tigarian
Tigarian

@seanmcgee87  I think the real issue is the fact that one game console can't play games as well, yet costs 100 dollars more.

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

@hakesterman @jenovaschilld   I have absolutely no regrets buying my XB1.... 

Nor should you, it is just a purchase. I to prefer xbox controller if only for the look/move not being on the same plan. Still though the OS, UI of the xb1 is such a hindrance to simply just playing a game.

sodapoppimpski
sodapoppimpski

Yet here you are justifying it while trying to knock x1

xdluffy
xdluffy

Yet it sounds like thats what youre doing lol

garbalen
garbalen

@Total_mischief @NX75  I watch a lot of streaming and all the time the action stops and the caster starts yelling "Xbox Stop Listening!". The first rule of streaming Xbox is never talk about Xbox. 


I wouldn't be surprised if the 1080p problem is due to bloat and resource hogging of the interface, If it was running on my PC I would End Task or shut down the service before ever playing a game. Running an always listening voice recognition software with an always aware camera and video processor, to recognize people walking in the room, could cause a big hit on performance. Specs between the two doesn't seem that far enough off to be that much of a factor.

fricklemcgee
fricklemcgee

@northArrow @guitarist1980  


X1 - Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Halo, Forza, Gears, Ryse, DR, Titanfall, Project Spark, Fable 


PS4 - Killzone, Order, Infamous, Uncharted, Drive Club, Knack


Not sure your statement holds up, ever since Sony lost exclusivity to FF and MGS it tips in MS's favour IMO, obviously a matter of taste. 


Just because MS are giving gamers more features doesn't mean we're getting less of the good stuff.

seanmcgee87
seanmcgee87

@Tigarian @seanmcgee87lol, sure if by "cant play games as well" - you mean, isnt currently displaying games in the same output resolution as a completely different device. The gameplay is identical.

DantheMan9856
DantheMan9856

@Tigarian @seanmcgee87  i think the non issue here is one developer said it was tougher developing for the xbox one and have since figure out how to effectively run 1080p. 4k is also a non issue as tv's are getting better resolution, but not necessarily bigger, also 4k tv also support other resolutions so you don't have to use 4k.

lonesamurai1
lonesamurai1

@Tigarian @seanmcgee87 That's clearly because of Kinect which by it self would probably cost way more than $100 with it's awesome 1080p capabilities, but they should have still made it a choice.

Carrig90
Carrig90

@xdluffy It sounds like theres no reason to buy an xb1 T.roll. keep playing in low resolutions is that what you want

Carrig90
Carrig90

@xdluffy It sounds like theres no reason to buy an xb1 T.roll. keep playing in low resolutions thats what you want right?

fricklemcgee
fricklemcgee

@northArrow @fricklemcgee  I was just listing the big guns, there are 13 xbox one exclusives this year, could list many more.


You could always email MS and tell them they're just not tailoring their games to your needs. They might get a couple of new studios just to cater for your taste.


The quality is there is MS, if you don't like those games doesn't mean they're bad games. :)

northArrow
northArrow

@fricklemcgeeYour list is painfully incomplete. I'm not going to type every single exclusive, but suffice to say you should take a closer look. Microsoft is most definitely giving us the short end of the stick


http://gematsu.com/exclusives


Again though, as I said, QB is the only Xbox One game I have any interest in right now.

Enundr
Enundr

@seanmcgee87 @Tigarianthe diff is very noticeable if youve actually played games at 60fps , if your someone thats only been on consoles for awhile you prob might not even be used to it , but as time goes on and consoles get more powerful , the FPS diff will become much more noticeable , atleast until the extent that the human eye can actually detect.

seanmcgee87
seanmcgee87

@Tigarian

"The difference between 30 and 60 fps matters a lot." Disagree completely. I have yet to play a game where i could tell the difference unless i used a replay option and in slow motion.


"Resolution depends a lot on how good your display is and how far you sit from it."I completely agree with this, however native resolution and displayed resolution are two very different things. Its not like watching 720P vs 1080P movies anymore, as the output is always 1080P on the TV.

Tigarian
Tigarian

@seanmcgee87 The difference between 30 and 60 fps matters a lot. Resolution depends a lot on how good your display is and how far you sit from it.

@DantheMan9856 Yes but non-native resolutions tend to look worse on digital displays.


guitarist1980
guitarist1980

@lonesamurai1 @Tigarian@seanmcgee87 As of now for the core gamer the camera itself doesn't seem very useful. Using it for the interface is painful and I don't see any Kinect games that interest me much. Maybe its for children and moms to exercise in front of the TV.

Tigarian
Tigarian

@lonesamurai1 I think MS was going after the whole family by including kinect and tv integration, while PS4 appeals more to people who are mainly interested in games. Kind of a reverse from the last gen.