Microsoft promises to support indies on Xbox One

Xbox boss Don Mattrick says "There's no way we're going to build a box that doesn't support" an independent developer program.

Independent developers will not be able to self-publish games on the Xbox One, but that doesn't mean Microsoft is skipping over the indie scene altogether for its next-generation platform.

Speaking with Kotaku, Microsoft head of Interactive Entertainment Don Mattrick said an indie-friendly program will exist, though he was not ready to give more details about it.

"We're going to have an independent creator program," Mattrick said. "We're going to sponsor it. We're going to give people tools. We're going to give more information."

Mattrick described the indie scene as "important," and referenced his own career path in explaining why such a development program is necessary on the Xbox One.

"That is something we think--I think--is important," Mattrick said. "That's how I started in the industry. There's no way we're going to build a box that doesn't support that."

The Xbox One launches later this year, though Microsoft has yet to provide specific release or pricing information.

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telaros
telaros

How quickly one changes stance once devs that loyally released amazing exclusives like "Dust" onto XBA, which is now gloriously on Steam, will be only allowed to released QUALIFIED games through BIG NAME PUBLISHERS if they want their games on XO. Where Royalties will give them about 30%-20% profits if that per title sold.


You've seen the backlash from indie devs and their scorn. Now you're trying to kiss up to them? Nice one. Not like XBLA really treated or helped Indie devs get much exposure. It treated them like crap technically.

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

lol tell that to the developers talking crap about you.

Fursnake
Fursnake

Funny, I just read an article in the newest issue of Game Informer entitled "XBLA Exodus" about how much XBL sucks for indie developers. Sooooo, yeah, I'm sure this promise is totally legit.

plaintomato
plaintomato

You have to have a publisher. MS will be your publisher. Are you comforted now?

cuddlyfuzzle
cuddlyfuzzle

In the video games industry, a promise means nothing. 

AshTrai
AshTrai

Support for indies like it is currently on xbox live is abysmal. The hoops u have to jump through, the bureaucracy of it all and the INSANE amount of money it costs to get even small patches certified by microsoft before they get released is a joke. Not only that but you have no control over marketing or price. A number of indie game devs didn't release subsequent patches for the game they made on XBL purely cos they couldn't afford the ridiculous certification costs. Why would anyone make a game for that platform?

Microsoft dipped their toe in the water with the indie support 10 years ago but it is a dinosaur now and in the light of steam etc it just looks a retarded way to treat indie game makers.

anonymousicko
anonymousicko

So they're building a box after all, not a console. Phew, what a relief

junglist101
junglist101

Will they just shut up already I'm beyond annoyed by almost everything the m$ execs have been saying.

I also hate how they keep referring to it as a "box" or 'the box'

Thisisstupid
Thisisstupid

"We're going to sponsor it. We're going to give people tools. We're going to give more information."

Sounds like "We're" willing to support them as long as they are willing to give us control of them.

neprisistates
neprisistates

region specific DRM is not indie friendly nor consumer friendly

lewibaygo
lewibaygo

they don't want indie developers to have accesses to their DRM system  which one reason why i think they want them to go through the publishers that are touting it  

SEEDman_X
SEEDman_X

Looks like MS has been making a lot bad announcements and then sends out press release to calm the consumers.  This reminded me a lot of what Sony did with PS3.  If Sony wants to chime in with the use-game blocking, I might as well skip this gen and go with PC

jdeamaral
jdeamaral

I gave up on caring. Starting to sound like politicians and my purchase is my vote.

steelmouth
steelmouth

GS and other gaming sites are happy AF at the xbox one, its just been on hell of a rollercoaster of news and comments, I bet the page visit and comments have sky rocketed

HowlPendragon
HowlPendragon

So is not allowing them to self-publish also their way of helping? That's some interesting philosophy there.

Why would indies choose MS when Sony & Nintendo give both support AND self-publishing? 

tightwad34
tightwad34

Now promise to support the people that buy your shit, damn it.

jeffrobin
jeffrobin

Did any one wiki Don Mattrick? I didn't know he developed Test Drive back in the day. I loved that game on the old 286.

jeffrobin
jeffrobin

Last generation MS did well with XNA and the Indie section of XBLA. I know they are not upgrading XNA for this generation but as far as I'm concerned they have done a lot to support independent devs - hope they continue in the future.

Carreau13
Carreau13

If you don't let them self publish then why help them out at all? So you can accept 1 in every 100 offered and tell the others they wasted their time and to try again all while using their own money and time. Nice.

Ra-Maxima
Ra-Maxima

xbox boss babbling, then what next?

 ha ha U'll screwed up!

SOLDIER-No2
SOLDIER-No2

I believe Microsoft is moving towards Apple's business model. Along with software drm, I think ms will go for incremental hardware changes. If so, it makes sense they didn't go all out on specs, to keep the costs down and make room for future improvements. Sony builds hardware for the long term, but Ms could win by selling a cheaper one, releasing new versions, and re-hyping it. The early adopters would sell their first ones, which makes it affordable for those looking for used and refurbished consoles, which increases market share. This could also let them tap into pc software sales, since pc users upgrade more often than console users. If ms had this model, they could keep up with pc hardware. Just my thoughts before we find out at e3

ItchyIsVegeta
ItchyIsVegeta

With an AMD cpu and Windows Kernel, the SMARTEST thing they can do on this thing right now is heavily support indy development.  An open source Google Play like app store would totally kill the competition.  But Microsoft isn't smart enough to do this.

King-of-Leon
King-of-Leon

The more Microsoft has anything to say, the more they get bricks thrown to their faces :)

gammameggon
gammameggon

I don't believe you, Microsoft, and even if true, it doesn't change anything at all. Microsoft is in ultra-massive damage control, and like a politician, is going through a checklist of things to say, even massively contradicting their initial statements. What an utter massive FAIL!!! Switching to Sony with the PS4 will be the easiest choice ever.I don't ever, ever, ever want to see a piece of shit xbone in person ever, so i wont get recorded. Get the fuck out of the games industry!!!!! I have the 360, but no way in hell will I buy an xbone or do anything other then encourage as many people as possible not to get it, either. Anti-consumer shit!!!!!!

Dangerous231
Dangerous231

I find the point interesting that alot of the PS fan boys are making about the kinect and XBL have the possibility of being hacked..while in fact anytime you go online with any device ,cell phones/pc/ and gaming console alike you take the chance of being hacked thats just the world we live in and with that point made. i think we all need to remember which online service did get hacked with PSN never XBL so i dont think ill be getting a ps4 B/C i dont trust PSN now. no thanks Xbox one for me first day buy...

Prats1993
Prats1993

One does not simply, support indie devs while not allowing them to self publish.

Navardo95
Navardo95

Still doesn't change the fact that the system has minimal focus on video games...8 GB of DDR3 RAM with a staggering 3GB reserved for apps leaving out only 5 GB for games? No.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@HowlPendragon If you self publish you have to pay everything...means also expensive fees for updates or patches.With a publisher on your side it could be alot more easier to release indie games.

mattress805
mattress805

They canceled XNA. From '08 to '10 Microsoft gave good support to indie developers. The last 2 years not so much. Indie developers have to get a publishing deal from Microsoft to even get on XBLA.

mattress805
mattress805

Forced Kinect integration that has full hd cameras and microphones and the cost of that technology will NOT keep the price down, man. Sony's console is gonna probably be over 100$ less. Without a 2 yr contract I've read xbox one to be 530$ plus tax plus 1 game plus tax = 625$. Do you consider that keeping the cost down?

SOLDIER-No2
SOLDIER-No2

Also, that's why I think it's called Xbox one. It's the first in a series of next gen xboxes

Branden_Lucero
Branden_Lucero

@gammameggon what's gonna happen when Sony pulls the same shit? you kno w what keeps most of gaming alive? the decisions by third-party developers/ publishers. without their support, you might as well switch to PC gaming. if they see that they can profit even more by the used game market on the Xbox One, what makes you think they wont turn to Sony and ask for the same thing? gaming is always business. and business decisions dont always make consumers happy.

Nintendo is literally the only one that can survive off its own franchises. 


jeffrobin
jeffrobin

@gammameggon I see a lot of these comments starting with "They are lying" and then going to say "but if it is true". Make up your mind they are either lying or telling the truth you can't have your cake and eat it. Stick to your convictions it makes your argument a lot stronger even if it is wrong.

SIDEFX1
SIDEFX1

@Dangerous231 Maybe MS give an impression of having other motives behind everything they do that just disgraces the gamer.

Branden_Lucero
Branden_Lucero

@Navardo95 5GB is plenty. most PC games dont even use more than 4GB, as most of the load gets dumped on the GPU. 

Danny_KickAzz
Danny_KickAzz

@Navardo95 Really lame of you to think that.  5GB of dedicated gaming RAM is insanely good! It will take YEARS for devs to properly use 100% of that. And most devs are just working with a 512Mb to play around with. Fail on yourself for just picking up dumb reasons to bash the Xone.

TJSpyke
TJSpyke

@Navardo95 Um, 5GB is still a HUGE amount of RAM for games. Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 had 512MB of RAM (PS3 was worse because its RAM was split up into 2, making things more difficult) for games.

Prats1993
Prats1993

The ps4 is alot more powerful

SOLDIER-No2
SOLDIER-No2

Manufacturing costs of the last kinnect was $56. With kinnect 2 it's likely to be the same, maybe cheaper, since tech progresses over time. A camera and a microphone is expensive to make?

mattress805
mattress805

Sony is not trying to put a surveillance device in our home though.

Navardo95
Navardo95

@Danny_KickAzz @Navardo95 It isn't bad but the PS4 has 50% more power.

Why would I buy a technically weaker system that is focused less on gaming when I can buy a more powerful system with roughly the same price that gives a high priority to games?

Navardo95
Navardo95

@TJSpyke @Navardo95 Yes it was X360 had more VRAM...slightly more powerful GPU but the PS3s processor was a lot more powerful more than making up for the weaker GPU...tho it had an extremely difficult architecture which is why it suffered from some shoddy ports but in the end it was more powerful than the X360.

Navardo95
Navardo95

@Prats1993 It has 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM with sources claiming that it has 50% more raw power than the next-box....and unlike XBoner it has a high priority to games.

jeffrobin
jeffrobin

@keysnsamples @Danny_KickAzz @Navardo95 Pity Killzone is a crap series. Poor mans Halo. I played KZ2 on my friends PS3 (he is a super Sony fan) and told him it was a poor mans Halo and he just nodded his head, grinned  and said "Yep"

se007
se007

@Danny_KickAzz @Navardo95 Amen to that brother! A real gamer just buys every worthy console, and plays it, instead of waging holywar on the forums! I have both 360 and PS3, and I think that there will be more than enough reasons to buy both X1 and PS4.

Danny_KickAzz
Danny_KickAzz

@Navardo95 @Danny_KickAzz  lol Typical PlaySlave  you basiclly answered the real question we all been thinking. Does power really matter when a console cant run a game at 100% of what it was intended for or is having better hardware WAY too important for that? And lastly I have all 3 Systems and 'Oh' I already pre-ordered the Last Of Us, and whats wrong did your jaw just dropped when I show my love for all systems by playing them  without fanboism getting in the way? XD  I game for all systems I dont have any  allegiance for one. Just shows how pathetic you are. 

Navardo95
Navardo95

@Danny_KickAzz @Navardo95 Oh the typical Xboxer words...the reason is because of the architecture that was a lot more difficult and complex than the X360 one which is why it suffered from bad ports...PS3 is (sadly) more powerful than the 360...

Do you remember the RE4 PC port? It was the worst version with shoddy visuals as compared to the console versions....real headscratcher no? I guess the PS2 is more powerful than a PC then in your logic?

BTW I can't wait to buy the Last Of Us. :)..So when are you buyi-..oh oh wait..I'm sorry...stick with your Halo and Gears ;)

SIDEFX1
SIDEFX1

@jeffrobin @Danny_KickAzz I forgot to show the SarcMark

jeffrobin
jeffrobin

@Danny_KickAzz @SIDEFX1 Awesome you got in before me. "Yeah GDDR 5 has a higher number and a G yippee!" There is a tonne of unbiased info about both memory types out there but people would rather be ignorant and hate.

Danny_KickAzz
Danny_KickAzz

@SIDEFX1 @Danny_KickAzz Please tell me...do you even know what GDDR5 is? would your head explode when you hear that GDDR5 is based upon DDR3? Hell do you even know what GDDR stands for (without using google) or is this just some numbers game where since a acronym that has a higher number in front of it makes it better? Please for the love of god educate yourself about SRam and DDR 3 and GDDR 5  and all the capabilities with the Hardware differences between the PS4 and XOne before you make you're self look like an idiot. Or would you rather make blind comments with snap judgments?

SIDEFX1
SIDEFX1

@Danny_KickAzz Whatever. You don't know shit. GDDR5 means better everything to begin with and this is fast memory too faster than  X1

Danny_KickAzz
Danny_KickAzz

@Navardo95 @Prats1993 50% more power doesn't mean crap when you haven't played any games on either system. So we can do is speculate on if the next halo game will look better then the next killzone. And even then it doesent matter since both systems are gonna be beasts anyway.