Microsoft: Disc-based market 'really important' for Xbox One

Xbox boss Phil Spencer says building policy that weighs interests of gamers, retailers, publishers, and Microsoft itself "vital" to success of platform.

All Xbox One games will be available digitally on day one, but that does not mean Microsoft is abandoning the traditional retail market anytime soon.

Speaking with GameSpot, Microsoft Game Studios executive Phil Spencer explained that the retail market will remain a major component of Microsoft's business strategy going forward.

"The retail market is really important to us," Spencer said. "Obviously, we sell consoles, we sell controllers, we sell physical devices, and we sell games. And retailers have been great partners for all us; for gamers as well. They're great places to go; talk to sales people about what they're playing. And we want to foster that environment and having a strong retail console business is really important to us."

Spencer further explained that constructing a policy that satisfies the four major players--gamers, retailers, publishers/creators, and Microsoft itself--will be vital for the health of the Xbox platform going forward.

"Building a policy and a plan that weighs the different interests and really landing on something that we think forward-looking will value the gamer and the creator and put them at the forefront [to] support a healthy retail ecosystem is vital," Spencer said.

The Xbox One launches this November for $500. The platform mandates users connect to the Internet once every 24 hours--something Spencer said can be done via a cell phone--and decisions about secondhand titles will be left up to individual publishers.

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iMichael123S
iMichael123S

People stop living in the Stone Age and live in the present. Get yourself this fancy new thing called the Internet and buy a Xbox One. Wow problem solved!

nameaprice
nameaprice

Xbox 1, feel what its like to have a pineapple shoved up your ass!

nitrofeen
nitrofeen

So you have to check in every 24hrs even if you havnt been using your xbox? that is what you are stating when you say you can even check in with your cell phone, right? This idea gets stranger to me and seems like theirs less of a benefit to gamers every time microsoft tries to explain one

Avalanched
Avalanched

@TheTrueSensei
Kinect is part of the system. They want it to be DEFAULT so game designers and publishers don't need to weigh the risk of experimenting with kinect because only 10% of xbox owners have it or something. It gives everyone a level playing field. You can still turn your xbox one on with the "on" button you can disable features of the kinect you don't like. It's just a part of the system just as much as the disk drive is. Not everyone has to like it or use it (unless it's a kinect game).

Sony is really doing what they are doing because they know the can cash in on everyone who is doubtful or afraid of the change that xbox brings. It's just politics.

Xbox seems to be going more towards the PC model. Where people still own their copies but only have limited ways they can lend it out. All Games bought on steam are not lendable but if you log in to any pc using your account you can play your games. I think that is where they are headed. They still have disks, because in the end, having a physical copy is a big part of video game culture.



Fine_TableLamp
Fine_TableLamp

And now because of this online capabilities coming into our consoles they have gotten so over the top that they want to make us have to be connected just to play offline (Literally, thats what it comes down to if you really think about it) This is dumb. Why? Why cant it be a GAME console that ONLY plays GAMES? Basically if you look at it, all they've done is made what we already all own which is a Computer and made it plug into the tv (which you can do already with a pc). I mean seriously! If I want to use Bing search engine or Youtube or Netflix, I will get on my Computer be ONLINE. when i get on my xbox or ps i just want to play the games.

Fine_TableLamp
Fine_TableLamp

Before online multiplayer we use to go to a friends house or they would come to our house and we would sit on the couch or floor in front of the tv and put in a CO OP splitscreen game an play it together in person. you would however still have the third and fourth friend wanting to join in but there were only two controller slots. Then they made the current gen consoles and THEY ADDED TWO EXTRA CONTROLLER SLOTS!!! WOOHOO!!! But guess what! only a half of a handful of games used even two player splitscreen, and why?????..... BECAUSE OF ONLINE MULTIPLAYER!!! Soon game developers forgot that friends and family like to play video games with each other in the comfort of their home. Soon i have to sit on the couch and watch my wife or friends play video games and take turns playing that awesome mission becasue there is no co op. THERE ARE FOUR CONTROLLER SLOTS! But for some reason i have to buy another tv, console, and the another copy of a game just to play co op. I dont want to play with people i dont know. I dont want to play with stupid little kids that use cuss words they dont even know what means. I want to sit side by side four people in the same room and use those FOUR CONTROLLER SLOTS on my tv at home.

Speranza318
Speranza318

I think it's really funny that it's required to be on the internet to play a game you purchased in a store.  If MS servers go down or they have maintenance day, I am going to sit back and laugh at the complaining while I play my games offline.

stefano656
stefano656

might buy ps4 and buy x1 next year if it there is a slim version

jnosk8
jnosk8

Im going to say Xbox One will win in the long run. But PS4 did win E3

waggs
waggs

Don't get XBoned in the backdoor by MS!  Think outside the box.

Coyteria
Coyteria

This is the future. Microsoft has shown very greatly the type of things a Next gen console has in terms of interface, cloud system, download based and so on. I hope it offers something very interesting. Would love to see more information on Project Spark as well.

Until then, I am on a mix between a new pc and Xbone so far.

Kreten1
Kreten1

So what happens if xbox profile gets banned? You can't even play offline or give game to your friends or another account or sell em? Pretty much you get banned and lose the whole investment into games and console

Donrock12
Donrock12

does anyone know if Killer instinct will be release as retail.  First I heard F2P, then I heard full digital and F2P, but recently someone told me there is going to also be a full retail release as well on disc.  


Please can someone clarify with a source.  I am looking to see if there is a full retail.  

Link Please...

Lucidmike78
Lucidmike78

Honestly, 95% of all my games new, and almost never share, but it's the principal of the situation.  I like the freedom to choose to do what I think should be within my right.

derpderpa666
derpderpa666

Anywho i think people are beeing sheeped really hardcore to PS4, what sony did was just a comercial move and throwing sand to peoples eyes. Do you honestly think EA for exemple will only enforce DRM on xbox one ... really? are people this dumb? both will have the same restrictions, for the same titles (which again its the publishers and developers who win with this situation, sure microsoft is a publisher sure, but come on they are beeing pressured by other big developers. And i dont understand why are people even going against DRM or always online, starcraft 2 last time i checked required always online to play offline , and so do other games (especialy new ones).

I know the new cool interwebz stuff is beeing on the Xbox one hatewagon but please stop beeing sheeped.

GrandMaster555
GrandMaster555

Xbox One's policy regarding game ownership - When you buy a game for it you're effectively purchasing the license to play it, which can be retracted at any point.

Not something I'm interested in buying for $100 more than what Sony has without all the annoying restrictions.

SteelBeowulf
SteelBeowulf

What Microsoft says and what Microsoft does are in complete contradiction to each other.

tevic
tevic

Xbox One disk games won't be important at all since nobody will buy Xbox One.

It's that simple.

hyme12345
hyme12345

I understand being connected to the internet almost everyone is. I assume if I do not play for 2-3 days then she boots  updates like my laptop. Its the downloadable games once I am done with them is there a way for me to trade them in toward new ones like a gamestop model or do I just delete and buy new ones hard drive space is limited or just stick to disc base. The trader-in option gives you a way in a sense to get something back. just to be honest like I said I like the 1 but all games I want to play drops before it drops. and my only option disc base but knowing in the years to come they might just get rid of it. it makes me look at the ps4 little harder. Help me out Microsoft you put me on the fence

nitrofeen
nitrofeen

@Avalanched  That statement about sony could be true but then why is everything else about their console appeal more to me as a gamer. Much better pgu and better memory.Oh and its easier to develop for(that should make the ps4 game library grow faster).Thats what i want in a game system not fantasy football. Also sony was thinking of ding drm but ps3 gamers went nuts on twitter and maybe they just gave their gamers what they wanted. The other thing i want in a gaming conole is details about your console hardware a tech features. Microsoft didnt give me any of those details., Sony did. They did however find a clever way to distract people from the lack f hardware details It was called "the power of the cloud" and !5,000 servers to 300,000 servers. that sounds ncie and all but those two things are hard to prove or disprove right now and that makes me suspicious especially after the way microsoft has been doging answers to things left and right

AlwaysRunning
AlwaysRunning

@AvalanchedThe difference on PC is that there is competition. Competition is what benefits consumers, it is what drives down prices, it is what encourages creativity.

On PC, if you don't like Steam, or Origin, or uPlay, you still have a wealth of options! You can buy from Good Old Games, fund a Kickstarter game you believe in, download stuff from Gamefly, pitch in to a Humble Bundle, go to Desura or, dare I say it, buy a physical disc and install it! And those are only a few of the options available!

On Xbox One: Buy From Microsoft.

The trouble with monolithic control over a platform is that the platform owner has no reason to give you a break. They've got you by the balls and will take advantage of it. Microsoft may be offering a few, limited freedoms at the start, here. But those freedoms are only designed to get you in the door and invested. They WILL be taken away later on, leaving only Microsoft for your spending pleasure.

Don't support monopolies. Don't support the end of consumer rights. Don't support the Xbox One.

AlwaysRunning
AlwaysRunning

@Fine_TableLamp But can your PC let you play Halo, while watching The Price Is Right, making a Skype call to your grandma, and updating your Fantasy Football league, all AT THE SAME TIME?!

Oh wait... it does. Never mind.

varuchi
varuchi

@Speranza318  i cant help thinking about a distant possibility where XBL gets hacked (like PSN a few years back) and put it under maintenance for 3-4 days(at least)..

i wonder how users will react when there will be no authentication and no gaming.. 

Avalanched
Avalanched

@stanknuggetz12 I dont think he really said anything un-true in this. This is all stuff the average person could have explained with all the information from E3. People are just kind of hopping on the "I only want my telephone to make phone calls" bandwagon. Xbox is doing something different. PS4 is still doing what people want now but it's not really thinking to the future.

AlwaysRunning
AlwaysRunning

@derpderpa666 "Oh hey, StarCraft 2 from Activision requires online to play offline! Well then clearly I want that in every game ever made!"

/logic

CallousIW
CallousIW

@derpderpa666 hi i was reading ur post n i was tinking ...yes greedy companies like EA which are inclined towards microtransactions or P2W model might put restrictions on their games for both consoles. But wat if another particular publisher decides NOT to put any restrictions on their games and they continue wif DLC models? perhaps it might be overly-idealistic to tink of tat but wat im nt sure abt is wat happens if the publisher really decide nt to put any restricitions? does it mean that if i were to purchase tat game on the ps4 i can continue to trade-in or buy used,like wat im doing now on my xbox 360...while if i were to purchase tat same game on xbox1, i will have to adhere to MS policy abt being able to sell it only to participating retailers  ; n would i be able to even get a used copy of tat game from my retailer? n can i sell a used copy when im done wif it ie the next owner of the game would be third user..... im rather confused abt MS policy on used games (disc-based) even after reading all the articles, which is wat im interested in...perhaps someone can enlighten?

P.S. im nt from US n my retailer is just a small distributor games store tat probablyyyyyy wun sign any agreement wif MS.

PhoenixArisal
PhoenixArisal

@GrandMaster555 You're actually not paying $100 more for "what Sony has." The Xbox One comes with Kinect, which easily explains the price difference. You'll have to pay extra for the PS4, if you want to be more interactive. Also, your theory on their stance on licenses is flawed. They aren't reserving the right to retract your rights. When you buy a game, you're buying the rights to play it. But you are not buying the rights for your mother's cousin's brother-in-law to play it, etc. So if you feel the urge to give them your game, they have to pay a little something to the company that made it, just to establish the rights to play it themselves. 

Besides all of that, I really don't get why everyone whines about this. I would much rather pay a small fee to play used games, than reduce the functionality of the system. Think about it: if not for this, we would have to always have the disc in, which would make it impossible to play a single-player game while running matchmaking, then seamlessly switching to the online match of another game when it's ready. I don't know about you, but this alone makes all the fuss worthwhile. Not to mention the convenience of not dragging game cases with you when you go to a friend's house or anything like that.

I am just glad that Xbox One has a clearly cut direction for advancing their system's capabilities, rather than Sony's "more of the same" approach. If I wanted a PS3, I'd buy one. I don't need a second PS3 that is renamed PS4.

GrandMaster555
GrandMaster555

@hyme12345 the major problem with the XBOX hard drive is that once it's full you can't transfer data to a new one.  You can't even get a bigger hard drive.

 The system should come with a 2tb hard drive and on top of that should not sell hardcopies of games, period.

 MS tried to go half ways on their policies but really ended up just taking a big fat dump on gamers chest.

Kreten1
Kreten1

Your hard drive will be mostly used just like RAM memory game license is always on it but game itself will be on cloud and temporarily downloaded to your hard drive. They said that you'll be able to trade games in. Its up to devs to allow it but any sane dev wouldn't prevent that and rick backlash and risk not selling any games in future

PhoenixArisal
PhoenixArisal

@AlwaysRunning @Avalanched You sound like a conspiracy theorist. "Microsoft is trying to take all my money and my rights, and my firstborn child!" People are so afraid of anything new, and it's ridiculous. Consoles have been around for such a long time, and they always have "monolithic control" over their platforms. And guess what! People are still buying video games and new consoles. If you are really so afraid of Microsoft, you may want to avoid PCs as well. They've had quite a large role in those, just so you know. :P If you're a PC gamer, go play PC games. Spend your money buying games from whoever you want. That's your choice. But don't come in here screaming about the end of the world and our rights just because you have problems with consoles in general. Sony has a monopoly over PS4. I don't see you freaking out about their ability to change your gaming experience. Simply put, I want you to take this from my post: Calm down - The world is not ending yet...

ferretshob
ferretshob

@varuchi @Speranza318 It won't get hacked liked Sony's free PSN. Xbox owners pay for a brilliant service that is always up to date and well maintained without any loss of service.

snova9308
snova9308

@Avalanched @Speranza318 

no there isn't, they've specified it clearly that you need to be ONLINE once a day you idiot.

ONLINE doesn't mean OFFLINE AUTHENTICATION, it means ONLINE.

Trollarious
Trollarious

@Avalanched @Kreten1  Think like that now i have had freinds get banned for tea baging in BF3 so if xbox does not fix the online i will go to ps4 but im sure they will think of something

derpderpa666
derpderpa666

@CallousIW @derpderpa666 yes you can still get used games, however the diference is with DRM publishers also get a cut on the whole reseller thingy, it doesnt effect you the consumer directly, only the resellers themselfs.

DRM is a way to protect publishers and developers that have games that dont sell very well.

Its all about what the publishers want to do with their games (if they put restrictions on reselling and so on, passes whatever, it will be the same on PS4).

AlwaysRunning
AlwaysRunning

@PhoenixArisal @GrandMaster555 You want to know why only 1 in 10 gamers has a Kinect or PSeye?? Because 9 out of 10 gamers don't give a damn about motion gaming!!!

Including a Kinect in the box is as useful to me as including an 8-track player.

As  far as used games go, just remember, you don't own anything on the Xbox One! They are glorified rentals which will explode in your face as soon as the network is unavailable, and will be erased from history as soon as MS decides it's no longer worth it to support the Xbox One. I still enjoy playing StarTropics on my NES; it's a great game! You won't be able to say anything similar about Xbox One in 20 years.

That is the most insulting thing about this whole mess: Microsoft telling me I don't own what I bought. Screw them!!

Kreten1
Kreten1

And casual gamers and any considerate parent for their kids. For instance go play kinect game and you sweat your ass off (kid stays healthy) or go play ps4 and kid munches on snacks while laying down and gets fat

hyme12345
hyme12345

@GrandMaster555 @hyme12345 

those 2 terabytes hard drives would be a dream, but there are still people without internet. the used game policy just puts too many people out there the game fly and the game stop. which I am a member of. all those games are used. and after awhile goes bye you really can't find the new one on the shelf. once they fix the used game problem they be back on top. just my opinion its the madden 2k well all the other games that come out before the 1 drops. I mean I may wait for madden26 and 2k15 before I change over. 

ELTP
ELTP

@ferretshob I can't quite tell if you are being sarcastic or really believe Microsoft's, whose machines are usually modded, network service any better tha PSN. Free or not, it doesn't really matter.

PhoenixArisal
PhoenixArisal

@AlwaysRunning @PhoenixArisal @GrandMaster555 I never said I liked the Kinect, I'm simply pointing out that he incorrectly stated that the PS4 shipped with the same stuff as the Xbox One. There is a price difference for a reason. The PSeye is only $60, so you are still paying more for the xbox one and kinect anyway, but that's where it comes down to your assessment of the situation. These are not the same systems, or the same companies. Each product will be unique. If I had the money, I'd buy both, honestly, but since I don't, I believe I will end up buying an Xbox One, simply because so far, they show more advancement. Sure, with that advancement comes some restrictions, but I am willing to overlook that for a quality game system. Whether you can do that or not is totally your choice. I wouldn't presume to tell you what to buy. If you don't like MS's stance on this, buy something you do like/agree with. 

PhoenixArisal
PhoenixArisal

@GrandMaster555 @PhoenixArisal Oh yeah, definitely! Having a logical explanation of a situation in which everyone is jumping to conclusions mean Microsoft is paying me. For sure. 9_9 

I wish. If I worked for Microsoft, I would definitely tell them to get some more information to the gamers, because the real problem is miscommunication. They obviously have terrible PR, here. But I don't think that means the system will be bad at all. 

All I'm saying is that I, for one, am not jumping on board the Sony train just because they are not having always connected or used games fees. I am still waiting to get more information before preordering. I'm not a fan-boy, I just don't jump to conclusions.

Kameo2k
Kameo2k

@Kreten1 lol because the kinect is the ONLY addon that requires movement when gaming....gtfo