Microsoft: Disc-based market 'really important' for Xbox One

Xbox boss Phil Spencer says building policy that weighs interests of gamers, retailers, publishers, and Microsoft itself "vital" to success of platform.

All Xbox One games will be available digitally on day one, but that does not mean Microsoft is abandoning the traditional retail market anytime soon.

Speaking with GameSpot, Microsoft Game Studios executive Phil Spencer explained that the retail market will remain a major component of Microsoft's business strategy going forward.

"The retail market is really important to us," Spencer said. "Obviously, we sell consoles, we sell controllers, we sell physical devices, and we sell games. And retailers have been great partners for all us; for gamers as well. They're great places to go; talk to sales people about what they're playing. And we want to foster that environment and having a strong retail console business is really important to us."

Spencer further explained that constructing a policy that satisfies the four major players--gamers, retailers, publishers/creators, and Microsoft itself--will be vital for the health of the Xbox platform going forward.

"Building a policy and a plan that weighs the different interests and really landing on something that we think forward-looking will value the gamer and the creator and put them at the forefront [to] support a healthy retail ecosystem is vital," Spencer said.

The Xbox One launches this November for $500. The platform mandates users connect to the Internet once every 24 hours--something Spencer said can be done via a cell phone--and decisions about secondhand titles will be left up to individual publishers.

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iMichael123S
iMichael123S

People stop living in the Stone Age and live in the present. Get yourself this fancy new thing called the Internet and buy a Xbox One. Wow problem solved!

nameaprice
nameaprice

Xbox 1, feel what its like to have a pineapple shoved up your ass!

nitrofeen
nitrofeen

So you have to check in every 24hrs even if you havnt been using your xbox? that is what you are stating when you say you can even check in with your cell phone, right? This idea gets stranger to me and seems like theirs less of a benefit to gamers every time microsoft tries to explain one

Avalanched
Avalanched

@TheTrueSensei
Kinect is part of the system. They want it to be DEFAULT so game designers and publishers don't need to weigh the risk of experimenting with kinect because only 10% of xbox owners have it or something. It gives everyone a level playing field. You can still turn your xbox one on with the "on" button you can disable features of the kinect you don't like. It's just a part of the system just as much as the disk drive is. Not everyone has to like it or use it (unless it's a kinect game).

Sony is really doing what they are doing because they know the can cash in on everyone who is doubtful or afraid of the change that xbox brings. It's just politics.

Xbox seems to be going more towards the PC model. Where people still own their copies but only have limited ways they can lend it out. All Games bought on steam are not lendable but if you log in to any pc using your account you can play your games. I think that is where they are headed. They still have disks, because in the end, having a physical copy is a big part of video game culture.



Fine_TableLamp
Fine_TableLamp

And now because of this online capabilities coming into our consoles they have gotten so over the top that they want to make us have to be connected just to play offline (Literally, thats what it comes down to if you really think about it) This is dumb. Why? Why cant it be a GAME console that ONLY plays GAMES? Basically if you look at it, all they've done is made what we already all own which is a Computer and made it plug into the tv (which you can do already with a pc). I mean seriously! If I want to use Bing search engine or Youtube or Netflix, I will get on my Computer be ONLINE. when i get on my xbox or ps i just want to play the games.

Fine_TableLamp
Fine_TableLamp

Before online multiplayer we use to go to a friends house or they would come to our house and we would sit on the couch or floor in front of the tv and put in a CO OP splitscreen game an play it together in person. you would however still have the third and fourth friend wanting to join in but there were only two controller slots. Then they made the current gen consoles and THEY ADDED TWO EXTRA CONTROLLER SLOTS!!! WOOHOO!!! But guess what! only a half of a handful of games used even two player splitscreen, and why?????..... BECAUSE OF ONLINE MULTIPLAYER!!! Soon game developers forgot that friends and family like to play video games with each other in the comfort of their home. Soon i have to sit on the couch and watch my wife or friends play video games and take turns playing that awesome mission becasue there is no co op. THERE ARE FOUR CONTROLLER SLOTS! But for some reason i have to buy another tv, console, and the another copy of a game just to play co op. I dont want to play with people i dont know. I dont want to play with stupid little kids that use cuss words they dont even know what means. I want to sit side by side four people in the same room and use those FOUR CONTROLLER SLOTS on my tv at home.

Speranza318
Speranza318

I think it's really funny that it's required to be on the internet to play a game you purchased in a store.  If MS servers go down or they have maintenance day, I am going to sit back and laugh at the complaining while I play my games offline.

stefano656
stefano656

might buy ps4 and buy x1 next year if it there is a slim version

jnosk8
jnosk8

Im going to say Xbox One will win in the long run. But PS4 did win E3

waggs
waggs

Don't get XBoned in the backdoor by MS!  Think outside the box.

Coyteria
Coyteria

This is the future. Microsoft has shown very greatly the type of things a Next gen console has in terms of interface, cloud system, download based and so on. I hope it offers something very interesting. Would love to see more information on Project Spark as well.

Until then, I am on a mix between a new pc and Xbone so far.

Kreten1
Kreten1

So what happens if xbox profile gets banned? You can't even play offline or give game to your friends or another account or sell em? Pretty much you get banned and lose the whole investment into games and console

Donrock12
Donrock12

does anyone know if Killer instinct will be release as retail.  First I heard F2P, then I heard full digital and F2P, but recently someone told me there is going to also be a full retail release as well on disc.  


Please can someone clarify with a source.  I am looking to see if there is a full retail.  

Link Please...

Lucidmike78
Lucidmike78

Honestly, 95% of all my games new, and almost never share, but it's the principal of the situation.  I like the freedom to choose to do what I think should be within my right.

derpderpa666
derpderpa666

Anywho i think people are beeing sheeped really hardcore to PS4, what sony did was just a comercial move and throwing sand to peoples eyes. Do you honestly think EA for exemple will only enforce DRM on xbox one ... really? are people this dumb? both will have the same restrictions, for the same titles (which again its the publishers and developers who win with this situation, sure microsoft is a publisher sure, but come on they are beeing pressured by other big developers. And i dont understand why are people even going against DRM or always online, starcraft 2 last time i checked required always online to play offline , and so do other games (especialy new ones).

I know the new cool interwebz stuff is beeing on the Xbox one hatewagon but please stop beeing sheeped.

GrandMaster555
GrandMaster555

Xbox One's policy regarding game ownership - When you buy a game for it you're effectively purchasing the license to play it, which can be retracted at any point.

Not something I'm interested in buying for $100 more than what Sony has without all the annoying restrictions.

SteelBeowulf
SteelBeowulf

What Microsoft says and what Microsoft does are in complete contradiction to each other.

tevic
tevic

Xbox One disk games won't be important at all since nobody will buy Xbox One.

It's that simple.

hyme12345
hyme12345

I understand being connected to the internet almost everyone is. I assume if I do not play for 2-3 days then she boots  updates like my laptop. Its the downloadable games once I am done with them is there a way for me to trade them in toward new ones like a gamestop model or do I just delete and buy new ones hard drive space is limited or just stick to disc base. The trader-in option gives you a way in a sense to get something back. just to be honest like I said I like the 1 but all games I want to play drops before it drops. and my only option disc base but knowing in the years to come they might just get rid of it. it makes me look at the ps4 little harder. Help me out Microsoft you put me on the fence

tevic
tevic

MS will "sell" *disks* but not *games* as "buyers" will not own the games. They'll just sort of rent it from MS, often without even knowing it and learning the hard way.

For example when their user-ID gets banned for some obscure reason by MS, losing their entire library of games. Or when MS shuts down some servers: "sorry you cannot play this cloud-enabled single-player game. It's over."

Or in the end when inevitably the last Xbone servers will be shut down, maybe sooner than later as the Xbone seems to be going the Dreamcast way.

SavageEvil
SavageEvil

When did it become ok for internet to be a requirement and not an option? I've got to listen to Xbox fans parrot off crap and not a single one of them actually thinks for themselves. Just accepting whatever comes down the MS feed tube.  Read HeroinSoap's post just a big list of things that make little sense considering you can do most of that now with the exception of accessing your game library at a friends house, but then again carrying the disc is viable but many people find that a task since those cases weigh so damn much. Funny thing is you can only play one game per shared game, absolutely nothing has changed about that. NO where does it say from your library can two people play the exact same game, it's because you can't. If they put in such staunch DRM to prevent multiple people from using the same copy what makes you think they'll let both of you enjoy it at the same time? Deluded yes sir you definitely are. 

They designed the Xbox One to allow publisher to allow us to resell our games, WTF? Somehow to Xbox faithful this is O.K.? Not only that there is nothing indicating that retailers will support this, let alone how this would work considering that someone will have to pay to get that game ready to be sold as an active game.  This one is hilarious, Xbox One is designed so you can give your DISC based games to your friends, are you out of your mind to watch me with a straight face and think that is cool. I was about to do that for the past 20 years. Two requirements is that they have been on your friends list for 30 days and get this you can only do this one time. How the hell did I game this long without such a sweet built in ability the Xbox One now affords me.

Bloody hell the shit Xbox apologists can swallow all in the name of loyalty to a company who is basically telling you they are giving you sweet convenient things, many of which always existed. Now they have complete control over it. Get your heads out of MS asses, no company deserves that kind of loyalty. 

Gaming is in a sad state when the intelligence of gamers is so low that they can't even tell when they are being had. Xbox One was designed so you can give your disc based games to your friends...complete with stipulations and limits. This must be some parallel universe where everyone is an idiot by default.

whitetiger3521
whitetiger3521

The disc based market for games is going to shrink once games are available digitally day one. However I feel that the same treatment should be applied to digital downloads. If I buy a game I should be able to sell it, loan it, trade it, or give it away. However that is not the case, once you buy digital you can't do anything with it.

HeroinSoap
HeroinSoap

After much confusion, Microsoft have finally outlined how their used games policy will work on the Xbox One.

- Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day: You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly.

- Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

- Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console–regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

- Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

– Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.

– Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

SPREAD THE WORD!!!!

steviegthekop
steviegthekop

There is absolutely no doubt that the future of gaming lies in 'always on-line' microsoft have been brave to take a step towards this but many gamers are not ready for change. The luddites also felt the same about tractors during the industrial revolution but we all know who won that one.

personally I'd rather invest in a technology that embraces the future than one that wants to cling to the past

gobluebuckeye
gobluebuckeye

Sony Fanboys love to jump on information that can be damning to what they are cheering against, and if your fan, you’re cheering for something but also against something. Most of them are prepubescent boys taking a victory lap, before the final product hit the shelves. What I mean is that until it’s up and running in your living room you have no examples to draw from to gain such said victory dance. Playstation will always be for the gamer that is still living under their parents roof, but mature gamers want a product that delivers vast amounts of enjoyment, and since I had no pull to ever play a playsrtation 3 (outside of uncharted) I would say I feel safe in my decision to be a part of the day one Xbox one crowd. Sure there is a lot of hype about how bad Microsoft is screwing their customers, but they’re not screwing me, I choose to buy their product as soon as it comes out, because I have come to like the quality of work Microsoft produces, now you go back to thinking your PS4 is superior as you’re eating your fruit cakes from your mommies fridge.

Gargus
Gargus

Funny, just a couple days ago they were saying how important digital games are to them and how they are the future.

They have damage control out now trying to say anything and everything they can to try and please everyone it seems since MS went on a 3 day tirade and pissing off everyone left and right on all topics.

AzelKosMos
AzelKosMos

They aren't doing well so far....

Gorgotheman
Gorgotheman

First, I had four 360s die in a row! Now they say this machine has to be logged into every 24 hours for me to play a game on disc! Are they out of their minds? What if I don't log in until 26 hours? Will the game not work? I have never left any game machines plugged in constantly due to electrical problems in my area and storms and never will. As good as the games might be, I will never buy ANY machine if that's the case. I'll be getting a PS4 for sure now. Thanks, Microsoft, for making my decision easy. Usually I buy all the consoles but you just eliminated yourselves from consideration. Good bye. What a bunch of dumb asses! Hey-give me all my money back for my busted 360s including the one you sent me that replaced the one before. That one broke in 1 hour!

vadagar1
vadagar1

everyone already bought PS4 give it a rest ur screwed

Uesugi-dono
Uesugi-dono

No it's clearly not.  MS, you should change your name to BS.

Mr_Big_Boss
Mr_Big_Boss

Microsoft: Disc-based market 'really important' for Xbox One

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLL

Who you trying to fool M$?

Bellum_Sacrum
Bellum_Sacrum

Disc -based market really important. Oh wait, ownership is morphing.

pszone
pszone

Is It me or Microsoft think they can win Next Gen War. Have they read people comments I guess not. Microsoft upset a lot fans and they might switch ps4. I think Microsoft dumb people and don't know how run company anymore RIP Xbox One.

TheTrueSensei
TheTrueSensei

It's true that each of the issues with the Xbone are not particularly sufficient to stop you from buying it, but when put together they are more about what Microsoft appear to be trying.

Instead of making a console for people, it feels like they are making it for themselves. By dictating what you HAVE to do, rather than what you CAN do, it shows that they are trying to achieve something else. Sony have not made one stipulation with theirs.

You HAVE to connect Kinect.

You HAVE to sign in every 24 hours.

You HAVE to use specific retailers for used games.

You HAVE to buy Kinect with it, even though most don't want it.

You HAVE to have someone on your friends list for 30 days to give them a game.

You HAVE to sell your house or a kidney to pay for it.

Once I buy the thing, I should be free to do what I want with the thing. If I don't want to sign in online, it's my f**king choice. Microsoft should be grateful if I buy one, then leave me the f**k alone to do what I want with it.

Would you buy a car if the dealership said you had to drive past there once a day for the thing to start?

They have to follow Sony or it'll do a Dreamcast.

darksiED70
darksiED70

Even the most brainwashed xbots i know don't buy any bullshit that micrsoft says.  It's hillarious!

GrandMaster555
GrandMaster555

They "want to foster that [game culture] environment" but without the ability to simply let a friend borrow a game or come to a house party and bring a few games over to play before beer pong,..

MS stop talking.  No one buys your BS any more.

Gamers might forgive you if you just take off the whole restriction layer from your system.  Keep restrictions on digital content, but not on the hard copy of games gamers like to collect, play and trade.  Sell your digital games for a lower price and I assure you you would have the control you wanted on digital rights.

The things you are trying to do would probably not fly in any other hobby.

GamerYnoX
GamerYnoX

I will say here what I feel about the new Xbox.

  - Restrictions for used games

  - Required online connectivity

  - Game business models like Killer Instinct (Free to play with 1 character, pay to unlock additional fighters)

  - Smartglass may give you an edge in some games compared to those who don't use it.

  - Bundled kinect. Has to be plugged into the console for it to work. Sleeping mode means device is ready to operate.

For me I don't have a big problem with most of these points excluding the last, but when we join all these factors a bigger picture becomes clear, a picture where MS is trying to change gaming and consumer rights as they are today.

When I say I won't  buy a Xbox1 it's not because I don't have a good internet connection or can't buy new games, it's because all these factors together show me a Gaming and entertainment reality that I don't want as a future. And I must say some of the Xbox1 exclusives are nice games regardless.

Remember when you buy an Xbox1 or a PS4 you're basicly saying you support the company behind and its product as it is so if you're not ok with it the best message you can send is by NOT buying their product.

 

Grondiggy
Grondiggy

Key words in that article is will be... Developing a balanced policy will be vital... That suggests to me that MS haven't finalized their position yet. There is hope. If MS drop there DRM rules will you switch back?

TheTrueSensei
TheTrueSensei

As someone has said below, the noticeable thing here is that Micrsoft is having to justify a lot of the things it is doing, because they are bad.

Sony have done their press conference, they have done everything right, and people are just enjoying the show. The justifications of their actions is a clear showing that Microsoft are thinking about profits rather than gamers.

I'm an Xbox fan, but on this occasion Sony has done it all the right way.

It's not so much the used game fee- that's cool if it's a small amount, but the online check in is just plain suspicious.

Birth_By_Sorrow
Birth_By_Sorrow

Healthy retail ecosystem translates to taking from the consumer and giving to MS and the publishers. I don't see a give and take here (the foundation of any "healthy" relationship), only a take. Like kings and emperors used to bellow that "it's for the good of the kingdom" when essentially they took control of your property you rightfully own, something MS is doing by controlling how and when you can use your purchased games.

dienalplz
dienalplz

Greed will kill you. I miss bill gates

Divedude
Divedude

With the always on internet, who cares, you will buy a BOX, with a code in it and download from there cloud, what a crock.  This has pretty much been stated as they will control used game sales.  What good is a disk.

Morphine_OD
Morphine_OD

MS is a pathologic liar. They just can't help lying every time about every thing. Tomorrow they will tell us we can play PS4 exclusives on XBONE.

HAL-209
HAL-209

Why can't they have discs and downloads? The discs people could lend and trade in while the downloads could be a lot cheaper but would be limited licenses. Taking the worst of both formats makes little sense. 

edinko
edinko

" Spencer further explained that constructing a policy that satisfies the four major players--gamers, retailers, publishers/creators, and Microsoft itself--will be vital for the health of the Xbox platform going forward. "

THat is not possible cause the interests of gamers and the corporate greed are not compatible

DaSlyOne
DaSlyOne

Is it me or is it just weird that Microsoft feels the need to justify everything these days, even basic concepts such as this?  Too bad they aren't smart enough to actually listen to their core customers - gamers.