Microsoft capping Xbox One Achievement updates

Microsoft will be putting processes in place to limit the number of post-launch Xbox One Achievement updates made available; it is doing so to avoid 'constantly overwhelming' players.

Microsoft will monitor post-launch Achievement updates to ensure that players aren't "constantly overwhelmed" with moving targets, according to a report by OXM.

The Xbox creator previously announced that developers will be able to add new in-game challenges without needing to include the additional Gamerscore points as part of downloadable content packs. While these can be added on a weekly, monthly, or quarterly basis as determined by the content creators, Microsoft will be capping the frequency of the updates to avoid player annoyance, according to Xbox Live's principal program manager, Chad Gibson.

"We're mindful of it, and the corollary is that with a lot of games today, three updates later, it's a nice evolution of that game--it's a different game that's been modified and adjusted, based on what people are enjoying and having fun with. And we think that Achievements should match that," he said.

"Especially if a game's been on the market for a while, and they have the opportunity to add all these new Achievements--if you start playing a game a year after it ships, there's probably 2000 Gamerscore to get for that game or more. And so, for the completionists, they're going to have more work to do."

Microsoft will be putting processes in place to ensure that the system isn't abused by those who are in control of how the points are implemented.

"We still have policies for developers to make sure that things don't get out of control. Like, we do not want a game offering 10,000 Gamerscore every day. We still have policies, so that user experiences are rational--users have an opportunity to complete everything without feeling constantly overwhelmed."

"A game developer could just take its Gamerscore budget and just, you know, dole it out every week if they wanted to. But we don't want things to be out of control from a gamer perspective. We don't want people to be constantly overwhelmed with thousands and thousands of things for this game," Gibson said.

Microsoft's next-generation console, the Xbox One, is scheduled to launch this November.

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CR4SHEDjr
CR4SHEDjr

I don't think completionists need, or want, any more work to do...

DARKSPACE
DARKSPACE

@ Nyrex comment "Umm ever heard of Xbox Rewards?"

@Nyrex  LOL, , If you mean the 25 cents/quarter a month I receive for filling their monthly survey and the 2% (2 pennies for every $1.00) I get discounted if I decide I want to make a xboxlive purchase. Then yeah I heard of Xbox Rewards cause I'm a member. N'way thanks for the reminder at least I leave here laughing..

lordgoregore
lordgoregore

as of today 7/27/13  I'm glad to say their is no longer any X-box , X-box 360 (crap box) in my house ! Now that my 7th xbox has died ( yes clean ,dust free , intercoller as well in an AC room set on 65 freezing  my as$ off and it still died ) . No Xbox one for me either no thanks .

DARKSPACE
DARKSPACE

If you've been into gaming as long as I have, Unlocking Achievements is a great personal way to try to fully utilize the engineers vision of accomplishments. But in the end it's just a tally of points that really don't add or do any justification besides knowing a family, friend or stranger did it and or can possibly help you accomplish an area of the game.   Though there are rumors that Achievements Points can actually be worthy if the company behind the console decides it can be used for purchases. 

Bottomline: When compared, you can be the one to have 5 or 500,000 gamerpoints and it really wouldn't mean much to those that don't care about brag or bravado.  Capping/Hard locking it is also welcomed.. .

Revl8n
Revl8n

Just absurd. What's next, $ DLC to unlock achievements or bypass the need to actually play the game? I'm fucking sick of pointless DLC that should have been in original release!

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

Hmm I can see what they mean but I'm sure any developers who aren't a bunch or morons could come up with a way of not screwing that up. I mean why would they release a bunch of achievements and then change them all before most people have had a chance to have a good go at getting them.

Badmutha
Badmutha

Uh.... Wha? Why not just have achievement SUBCATEGORIES for DLC?

Seems like that would solve this problem quite neatly while still allowing those who play the DLC to bump up their gamerscore a bit...

Light_Blue_Wolf
Light_Blue_Wolf

-New Achievement Unlocked-

        5g  ~[Achievement]~

  I went to Xbox One and all I got was this Achievement.

premier024
premier024

If your upset that your missing an acheivment you might need to go outside.

liandrikonflict
liandrikonflict

If Uncharted 3's game and achievements would have come to Xbox the gamer kiddies would have taken a shitstorm.

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

lol yea that pisses me off with dlc and trophy support. i dont like seeing a platinum trophy or 1000 gamer score to be updated and i see i didn't get 100%

camp1301
camp1301

I, for one, don't really give a rat's arse about achievements and gamer score.

phillkillv2
phillkillv2

Ever since the restructuring and leaving of Don Mattrick, things on the Xbox division of Microsoft seem better. Things like this are what I like to see. Even if a bad mistake was made before, it's never too late to fix it.They're doing things that people want. Although I'm not getting the Xbox One until later, I'm satisfied and happy to say that I will be purchasing one. 

That Xbox One voodoo shit won't die, but I think we have a killer console here.

hadlee73
hadlee73

I'd be interested to know what developers and studios think of having something like this forced upon them. It might be no big deal, or it might end up being a tiny nuisance that helps them in deciding which platform to develop for.

deathstream
deathstream

Nice to see MS looking out for the completionists in their plans.  We'll still have the problem of impossible MP achievements in old games (even primarily SP games), but at least they are trying to make sure that the new system doesn't add to the problem.

Paul2004
Paul2004

Whats wrong with the current system ?, constantly adding achievements will make it difficult to get 100% and also infuriate completionists (Playing the game, get passed a point but afew days later a new achievement arrive...you've already passed that point so you have to reload a old save or restart...).
Sounds like this is more hassle than its worth, even if they did cap it.

omar_q
omar_q

Really great news for achievements hunters, MS just burying Sony so hard lately. 

nurnberg
nurnberg

I don't like the idea of having new achievements constantly added to a game.  Not only it makes completing 100% very difficult, but I think this will negatively affect the quality of achievements because there will be so many.

JKeyz90
JKeyz90

@lordgoregore I see people saying this all the time I guess I was just really lucky I never had to deal with it on any of my consoles....hope i aint speak too soon smh

Nyrex
Nyrex

Umm, Ever heard of Xbox Rewards?

Urizen316
Urizen316

@Revl8n added achievements are a reason for some people to return to the game.. chill out bro

udubdawgz
udubdawgz

@camp1301  

for me, achievements have nothing to do with a completion percentage or some kind of meaningless score or group of numbers.

for the achievements i choose to complete it means i added entertainment to my gameplay.

and, that happens to be why i play video games.

COPMAN221ISBACK
COPMAN221ISBACK

@phillkillv2 Sorry but that stock 500GB that can't be changed will fill up fast with mandatory full installs of games once your library grows and the mandatory eye of sauron watching 24/7 doesn't help it either.

Deathsmiles76
Deathsmiles76

Wow lmao xbox one seems to be the only real next gen system with cool features and all of the plans they have lined up for the future. I'll be waiting to buy the ps3.5 to see what innovations they have. Till then Sonys system will remain an updated ps3 with just better hardware nothing more

deathstream
deathstream

@Paul2004 

But if they don't require Gamerpoints to be assigned to the achievements, you can still get the full 1000.  That is what matters.

udubdawgz
udubdawgz

@omar_q  

i'm going to say it again:  MORE achievements is a GOOD thing.

this "overwhelmed" rationale is completely ridiculous.  

competionists shouldn't be worrying about anything, since, they now have the opportunity to do more achievement questing.

i want achievements taken more seriously with some thought and effort in upping the quality AND quantity.

as well, like i always say:  keep the multiplayer achievements AWAY from my single player ones and have them get updated when those gamers go online.

 

COPMAN221ISBACK
COPMAN221ISBACK

@omar_q BWAHAHAHAHA More like Microscam is trying real hard to win back all the consumers they lost due to their own greed and stupidity. A little to late..

deathstream
deathstream

@nurnberg 

Read the article again.  This is to help completionists.  Xbox doesn't have a Platinum.  It has a number.  If you can get 1000/1000 without tackling added-in achievements, it is a good thing.

xXxIRyanxXx
xXxIRyanxXx

@COPMAN221ISBACK @phillkillv2 Lol you are one of the funniest anti Microsoft people on this website, if you fill up the hard drive you can plug one in just like you can do on the 360. And enough with the bad Kinect jokes already.

Cronyk
Cronyk

@Deathsmiles76 Agreed! The only thing I'm sad I'm going to be missing out on is Infamous. I'm starting to think I would rather have Dead Rising 3 though... looks like so much fucking fun

C0v3rtUnis0l
C0v3rtUnis0l

@udubdawgz @omar_q I'm backing your statement 100%. It just seems that microsoft is literally did a shoddy work at collecting customer feedback and needs while deciding how the new console should take shape. 

More achievements is good for ppl who want to pursue them. Taking them away is a loss only for MS. Sad.

deathstream
deathstream

@udubdawgz @omar_q 

Completely agree about MP achievements.  Nothing more frustrating that picking up an old single player game and finding that you can only get 400/1000 because the dev tried to force you play their tacked-on MP that no one played after a month.

udubdawgz
udubdawgz

@deathstream @udubdawgz @omar_q  

see, i don't care about the number.  THAT means nothing to me.

i care that the actual number of achievements is less than if they were all single player ones.

for me and i'm going to assume other single player gamers, the numbers don't matter.

we want high quality and quantity to extend a games value.

Deathsmiles76
Deathsmiles76

No his moms at my house lmao and she ain't cooking bacon