MGS 5: Ground Zeroes campaign may only take you two hours

Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeroes campaign will be incredibly short according to an article in Game Informer.

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According to an article in Game Informer magazine, the story campaign for next month's Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes is going to be really, really short. As in two hours short.

Game Informer writes (via Kotaku): "Judged just by the core story mission, Ground Zeroes is short. We completed it in just less than two hours."

Your actual mileage may vary, since as the article notes, the demo lasted four hours: enough time to play through the main mission and experiment with extra modes. And length doesn't necessarily have any bearing on the game's quality. MGSV is already being sold at a slightly reduced price compared to standard releases: Xbox One and PS4 will cost $30 for a digital download or $40 for retail, while PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game will cost $20 for digital and $30 at retail.

There's no word yet on when the game's sequel, The Phantom Pain, will arrive, but Kojima has promised that it will be "hundreds of times larger" than Ground Zeroes.

Discussion

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ninboxstation
ninboxstation

2h? well probably  depends on the difficult setting on wether you want zero alarms or not... 

dishonored had a few settings/areas, that could have probablly been finished in 15 min, depending the difficulty setting and the way you played (shooting like rambo or stealthing  with no alarms...) or could have tooken 1-2h....


and reviewers tend to play "the easyier" way... (many reviewers have problems with stealth + opengameplay in the frist place....., so they either set the diffiulcty low or just shoot out of toughi-ish stituations..., instead of really trying to stealth...)

son-of-the-wolf
son-of-the-wolf

thanks christmas vouchers now i have something to buy in march lol

redeka
redeka

I love all the comments about gamers being milked for everything they have, companies being greedy, etc, etc. Of course gamers are being milked and the companies are being greedy. That is called capitalism, and it is something that many people have fought and died for in this country. It is literally the definition of the American Dream. Supply and demand will dictate the fair price of the product. If you don't like it, then move to communist China. 


Also, for those of you saying $30.00 is too expensive and unaffordable...I bet you regret that decision to skip college...

chemicalegypt
chemicalegypt

Konami's style of patching the hole after the beloved PES franchise (new AFC and South American league licence cost) left a massive hole in their bank account. This makes for the classic case of ''milking the fans''.

VastGameMaster
VastGameMaster

Well if it's only "slightly" then I'm not worried.

rIVAL_sWORD84
rIVAL_sWORD84

great, i am waiting to buy cheap pre owned copy..

cejay0813
cejay0813

$30 for two hours... I'll wait till they bundle it with MGSVPP

Kos1c
Kos1c

It's like their selling us a short tester on their new Fox Engine. It'll be interesting to see, and for 20 bucks as a digital download, I guess some won't be too disappointed in this DLC length game. 

Depends on how much freedom is given within those open area missions, that will be the main decider on if I pick this up or not.

Uangry
Uangry

This should have been apart of Phantom Pain instead of a separate release. Gotta milk the cash cow, though.

RogerioFM
RogerioFM

I find appaling that some people defend this game's lenght, even going as far as naming other overpriced and short game as if it was acceptable. There should be a limit between fanboysm and good sense.


The quality of the game is not even a concern in this game, as even the most simple form of art would require minimum amount of time to be appreciated.

anab0lic
anab0lic

This should be selling for $10-15 tops.

Arda_Daghan212
Arda_Daghan212

I've actually paid $60 for games that take 2 hours to finish if you just go through the main story as fast as you can. Even Dishonored, that game takes a lot longer if you don't kill everything you see, but if you do, it takes a little over 2 hours to finish. (Other examples may include CoD games, but I know those have multiplayer. I'm certain there are lots of games that charge you $60 for 2 hours. MGSV Ground Zeroes is half-price, and I hope what they say about the quality is true and if it is, I think this game is worth the $30. Also, there is replay value to it as well. People should reconsider. They can drop the price though, not like I'd mind.

Martyr77
Martyr77

Who would pay that much money for TWO hours? Wow what a ripoff.

so_hai
so_hai

Kojima goes at 180-degrees to the mainstream yet again! Well, it looks like they're using a mutant DLC and pricing plan (maybe?).

littlegoodson
littlegoodson

"Judged just by the core story mission"


So if you blast straight through... 2 hours.  But there is bound to be a load of hidden easter eggs, side missions and extras for those that spend the time replaying or exploring.

NTM23
NTM23

This is a comment made by the Metal Gear Solid Facebook page. Honestly, it didn't bother me to a large extent before. I saw it as a problem, but am not getting overly angry about it, though this on the other hand makes it worse:


"To our fans:

METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES features a non-linear, open world environment that allows players to choose how to approach each mission. Players can use a variety of tactics, from a run and gun action style to true stealth-ops, to accomplish any one single mission, true to the METAL GEAR SOLID series. With freedom to choose multiple paths, by foot or by vehicle, to dynamic enemy engagement, players are sure to find a deep gameplay experience across a central story mode as well as numerous side-ops missions.

Also, METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES offers a number of additional achievements and unlockable platform-exclusive content for considerable replay value in the true cinematic style and ground-breaking graphics quality that has become the hallmark of Kojima Productions.

Similar to a television series, GROUND ZEROES serves as the first act that will bridge the gap between METAL GEAR SOLID PEACEWALKER, serving as the prologue to the highly anticipated METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN, the second part of the METAL GEAR SOLID V Experience.

KONAMI expresses its confidence that METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES represents an overall excellent experience with its expansive gameplay, replay value, as well as its compelling and deep storyline."


It just makes it sound like the developers are shouting "PLEASE BUY OUR GAME! We know it's short, but so what?"

GameFan1983
GameFan1983

MGS = 3.5hrs long = master piece @ $49.99

MGS2 = 4 hrs long(with no cut-scene)  = master piece @ $49.99

MGS3/MGS4/MGS MINI = 4-5 hrs long are all master pieces ranging from $49.99-$59.99

MGS5 mini @ $30   haters: "WWAAAAAAAAAAAAA MAMMY!!!"   


Don't like what you heard? don't buy it. 

marcelinof
marcelinof

Prepare yourself, fanboy rage is coming 

v_preacher_v
v_preacher_v

 First off can I just say that the price for Australia is a place holder price, it hasn't been made official from what I know, that is just the price retailers think it will cost. Secondly if you are not willing to pay $40 to $60 odd for this game because that price range is "too expensive" then don't. You're only going to miss out. Kojima didn't have to do this at all but because fans were demanding and TPP was being delayed he thought he would do the right thing and make the prologue available to the players. So what if he is charging for it, it is essentially part of TPP so there is no reason not to.  Plus in saying that no matter how long the game is if you've ever played a Metal gear game then you should know just how much effort Kojima puts into these games. And in saying that most games today I finish in one sitting and usually quick sittings too. It didn't diminish the quality of The Last Of Us for me one bit. Also there is a rumour going around that Kojima delayed TPP mainly because the PS4 still isn't widespread around the world and is worried about sales but if the sales for GZ go through the roof he may release TPP this year. Keep in mind that is just a rumor, as plausible as it is.

And the last thing is if you are planning to get GZ or are unsure of it because of the length, there is one simple thing you can do to make the experience longer and better.

Set it on the hardest difficulty available

Simple as that people

maybock3000
maybock3000

i've already played the game. 3 hours...

Metallicwolf29
Metallicwolf29

I remember burning out on the mgs2 demo way back when and I'll probably burn out in mgs ground zeros too but 40 bucks is pretty steep

spKeeper20
spKeeper20

At least they made it cheaper.  I mean people are willing to spend $10+ to go see a movie which is about 2 hours or so.  At least this one you get to play.

Dieknochenblume
Dieknochenblume

There's no way I'm getting this. Demos are supposed to be free, and games (Phantom Pain) are supposed to be shipped once they are complete, and not piece by piece.

MGS 6 will be F2P (or, free to start, as they say in Nintendo) at this rate!! 

delta5931
delta5931

Oh dear, the pirates are gonna go rampant over THIS news...

HipHopBeats
HipHopBeats

Sutherland is staying busy. I just saw a commercial for a new season of 24 coming in May.

HipHopBeats
HipHopBeats

I'll wait for the MGS V bundle collection. Even though I'm a MGS fan, this is some bullshit. For $20, I can get a 'last gen' GOTY game with all DLC.

Lotus-Edge
Lotus-Edge

The price is reduced, so it's at least worth a rental. 

Hell, if Azura's Wrath was "worth" full price, this'll be worth half....

furuki90
furuki90

the important question is with or without the cutscenes

Trev786
Trev786

So now we have reached the point where DLC is out before the actual game.  F*&# this game

projectpat72988
projectpat72988

@Arda_Daghan212  Dishonored is not a 2 hour game IDC if you were invincible and invisible and ran from end to end. Besides....your point was that if you sprint from point to point ignoring everything and anything a game will be shorter? Well obviously. No one is saying they are speed running this game. Its about 2 hours when just casually playing. Which means it could probably be beat in under an hour if you tried....and THATS a problem. No game should be that short....at all. Unless its like 10 dollars.

projectpat72988
projectpat72988

@Martyr77  Sure as shit not me. You know its bad when there is a freaking article about it being short. Essentially every game outside of an RPG is too short now...and no one makes any major mentions of it besides fans. The fact this has articles about it being short as hell is a really bad sign.

v_preacher_v
v_preacher_v

@NTM23  If it is priced around $50 I have no problem with it. I hate spending over $90 on a game that has no replay value but I know every MGS game has replay value and even though it may only take 2 to 3 hours to finish, I believe it will be a true eye opener. And if you play it on the hard difficulty then it should provide extra game time. The fact that it is open world makes the possibilities endless. Do you choose to snipe the guard in the tower and knife the rest? Do you go a certain way, do you knife the guard in the tower, do you sneak through the entire mission undetected without killing anyone? While it may seem stupid I can almost guarantee that I and many other players like me will spend their time replaying every mission on the hardest difficulty and exploring different ways to complete each mission. A lot of full length games fall short of 2 hours but still get priced at $90 and they are usually rushed too. At least we know Kojima puts his heart and soul into every Metal Gear game. I mean the detail looks amazing. I'd be more than happy to pay $50 or 60 for it. Be thankful if you live in a country other than Australia because the retailers are wanting 89 for it. 

Uangry
Uangry

@GameFan1983 Whatever you say, fanboy. You'll say anything to make GZ sound decent, which its not.

RPG_Fan_I_Am
RPG_Fan_I_Am

@Metallicwolf29  $40 bucks for a PS4/ xbone games cheap. I mean by the way this game looks, I figure it's prolly got a decent replay value.

Metallicwolf29
Metallicwolf29

Is it official that he is big boss? I still have hope hayter is involved some how

Medievaldes
Medievaldes

@furuki90Shit, this is a good question. If it takes two hours without cutscenes, then maybe is a 10 hour-long game, but if is including the cutscenes, damn, we need to be prepared to just "press the start button" and enjoy the cinematics.

v_preacher_v
v_preacher_v

@Trev786  Kojima was sort of in a way forced to do this. He was expecting to release TPP this year but delays have clearly pushed it back. However they had finished the first part of it and because a lot of fans wanted it and were angry about the delay I suppose he thought he would release the first part of the game to try and make the fans happy and somewhat content. 

Arda_Daghan212
Arda_Daghan212

Yeah I'm not saying you're wrong about that. But we don't really know what they mean by "core mission gameplay". I could be wrong and maybe you could speed run through it in an hour, or maybe even less. In that case, although I'd still buy the game, it wouldn't be worth $30. But it may not be that case, and even if it is, I think MGS has a good chance of being worth the money, just like Journey was the money it was sold for. (Personally, I'd pay $30 for that game, but that's just me). We'll have to wait and see. And by that I definitely don't recommend pre-ordering it. Thanks for your response, btw.

rem234
rem234

@v_preacher_v @NTM23You realize they just said that Ground Zero is only going to cost 30-40 on a next gen system. Phantom Pain may be more expensive but it looks like Ground Zero is going for cheap.

Wiimotefan
Wiimotefan

@Uangry @GameFan1983  

He's not wrong though.  And I'm not sure if he's even a fanboy considering he just called out the fact that the previous games are so damn short.


The only MGS game that actually has a ton of content is Peace Walker.  The others, while highly replayable, were actually very short games.

rem234
rem234

@RPG_Fan_I_Am @Metallicwolf29I dont know, i tend to think 40 may be a little much for a 2 - 3 hour game. So i may try for the digital version at least to get it down to 30. 


Hopefully Phantom Pain will be longer then.

Saul_Ed_Snake
Saul_Ed_Snake

@Metallicwolf29 Nothing is ever "official" with Kojima until the game is released and we play. For all we know, he's trolling us. So far, we've only seen and heard a slight bit and a behind the scenes with Sutherland, that could have been filmed/recorded in one day. Either way, I still think it'll be good. Sutherland is a proven actor, and if Kojima is trolling, we get the classic Hayter version of Snake.

NTM23
NTM23

@Medievaldes 


Didn't anyone read the news about them making this with less cutscenes as compared to the originals? They want to tell the story with less cutscenes, which is what I remember reading.

v_preacher_v
v_preacher_v

@thesnakeofbacon @rem234 @v_preacher_v  Hence why I don't see the logic in people complaining about having to pay around $40 or $50 for it. That is nothing compared to $90

I just hope they drop it to $40 because I'd happily pay that for it

thesnakeofbacon
thesnakeofbacon

@rem234  You didn't read what @v_preacher_v said did you? You didn't realise that he was talking about the Australian price, where this prologue of sorts is being sold (on PS4/XBO) for $89, the price of most full releases (though $49 on PS3/360). That certainly isn't cheap, and I fully expect The Phantom Pain to cost $119 or more.