Lost and Damned censors GTAIV in EU, un-censors in Oz

Rockstar confirms content update censored its open-world crime-spree sim in Europe before just-released patch; add-on reportedly removes Australian government-imposed edits.

Rockstar's best-selling Grand Theft Auto franchise is certainly no stranger to censorship, with several games having been either edited or banned entirely in certain countries. Grand Theft Auto III was banned for a period in Australia shortly after launch and edited for its Japanese release. Although the heat has died down, the Hot Coffee scandal exposed a sex minigame within GTA: San Andreas and simmered away for some time, culminating in a year-long Federal Trade Commission investigation.

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Since then, Rockstar has gone on to launch the widely popular Grand Theft Auto IV and its first downloadable content pack The Lost and Damned, released exclusively for the Xbox 360 on Tuesday. According to user comments in GameSpot's forum, and confirmed by UK-based gaming outlet Videogaming247, Lost and Damned has resulted in certain sections of GTAIV to be censored in Europe. A spokesperson for the publisher told the site that "We are aware of an error with the latest GTA IV title update and are confident the issue will be fixed within the next few hours."

Apparently the error had resulted in "pools of blood missing from around corpses," in addition to "camera angles dropped from sex scenes in the game" in Europe. According to numerous online reports, the error had the opposite effect in Australia, where the game was edited to pass approval with the Office of Film and Literature Classification, responsible for games classification on the island nation.

GameSpot user Flaming_Frog4 gave the following account: "I live in Australia [where] GTA4 was cut in our country--no blood pools, no wounds, camera will pan below the car [when players have sex with] a hooker. But after Lost and Damned these were all implemented in. So thanks, I guess."

When contacted by GameSpot UK, a Rockstar representative confirmed that they were aware of the problem and that the error has now been fixed with an Xbox Live update, but couldn't confirm how the error may have affected Australian customers. For more on GTAIV: The Lost and Damned, read GameSpot's impressions in the Under Review blog.

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Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

Now, that is really stupid... a bug that censord the uncensored and uncensores the censored?. Now i can say I saw everything.

Sparky2002
Sparky2002

StarlightHunter or you can own both consoles like me :) best of both worlds :)

mafdys
mafdys

About time australia got something their way, instead of having to do alterations and such. But seriously people shouldnt be told what they can play and what they cant. If its a matter of kids playing the game aswell well then i guess its the parents fault but dont make everyone else suffer along. This is a free country!

StarlightHunter
StarlightHunter

silentsniper359, true true but we all know that wont happen because microsoft is the economically superior company. im just getting fed up with ps3 owners (fanboys) complaining that they have no dlc for gta, fo3, tr etc when they have games like mgs4, killzone, resistance and about 67 other ps3 exclusives. if they dont like it, its not to late to change console.

figo16v
figo16v

I guess that when the miniority of idiots out there who try to reinact what they seein videogames stop and when some of the so called "Adults" start acting like "Adults" then maybe censorship will be dropped. Fact is, especially with GTA, the core audience is hardly Adult anyway. So it will be more censored than a "hardcore gamers" game such as fallout 3 which is less mainstream

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

censorship sucks no one should tell an adult what they can and can't see.

BenBenBen93
BenBenBen93

haha fallout 3 now thats a game that was allow relise for some reason cos looking at it now you can kill some ones normally like you do in other game then you take a knife out and cut body parts of pile them up and in gore bags fire body bits from rock-it-lancher

kucharz508
kucharz508

JGoWild mos violent games for me are Fallout 3 and ninja gaiden 2

silentsniper359
silentsniper359

@ ukogmickey microsoft bought the dlc rights to the games fallout 3,tomb raider underworld and gta4 so unless sony forks out some cash the dlc will stay exclusively for the 360

andyrook
andyrook

@ukogmickey not happening ever!!!exclusive content bought and paid for unlike other dlc eg oblivion stuff...50 Million Dollars to get EXCLUSIV DLC then allow it to goto other consoles...eh hem.NOPE!Check your facts before posting matey

jonomatt
jonomatt

the lost and the damned seems to be a bit too vilopent but im gonna miss thoses pools of blood alot. :(

JGoWild
JGoWild

I wonder which is the most violent game of all time???

ukogmickey
ukogmickey

Expansions and DLC for GTA4 is only exclusive for 3 month ! I heard that when GTA4 was released. Its obvios theyl release it for other formats !

Adziboy
Adziboy

Finished GTAIV story last night; was fun but shame I don't get the Lost and Damned.

micky_disco
micky_disco

Lysix, you misspelled Australians. And this comment board has a spell check function. I guess they can't keep all the idiots on dial-up huh?

brendanhunt1
brendanhunt1

dont forget microsoft paied rockstar $50million for two exclusive dlc its still possible for ps3 to get some, if rockstar wants to make money

arachlyco
arachlyco

Why would they banned GTA? For once in peoples life their going to see "sexual" parts. It isn't rockstars fault that they have to be forced to cut some stuff out of the game. It is the parents fault for sheltering their children. But, they still let them play those rated M games that come out in the stores. So stop and think, was it really rockstars fault?

tatu2004
tatu2004

yeah i kinda noticed the problem the other day just glad it was an error i have the UK version

brendanhunt1
brendanhunt1

@Lucidmike78 i got both and theres barley any difference

Lysix
Lysix

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puppiemaster
puppiemaster

I really should play GTA4, bought it at midnight on launch day, played it for an hour and it's been on my shelf ever since, was so involved with playing COD4 online I didn't get a chance to play it.

Lucidmike78
Lucidmike78

BTW, having played through GTA IV on both PS3 and X360 NOW, the EU version sounds pretty much like the PS3 version. Very little blood at all, whereas the X360 version, there is always blood pools, splatters, snears, and trails happening all around you. If you like that stuff, the X360 version is a lot better.

Lucidmike78
Lucidmike78

If they take Mr. Dangle out, you guys won't be missing much.

Leo_Colt
Leo_Colt

Actually, Rockstar implemented censorship in the original to avoid any possible delays. The OFLC never asked for it. When they made the PC version, they sent the uncensored version through and it got the same rating, so this was probably meant to lift the censorship on PAL AU version (as it's no longer required) but ended up having the reverse effect on PAL EU versions.

gameking5000
gameking5000

The system is corrupt. This game should not be allowed. It has an effect on those playing. It should be banned from this country!

XeonForce
XeonForce

I love Australia's tough animal abuse laws, but damn... the censorship is a little overzealous.

Pete5506
Pete5506

Thats to bad, man I feel bad for the people that dont get to play the game

Turbo-Evil
Turbo-Evil

@zeeshan810 - Actually... it sucks to be as ignorant as you. *waits for inevitable moderation*

Hedfix
Hedfix

I wonder if Conker ever made it to Australia.

zeeshan810
zeeshan810

Sucks to be living in Australia...

Generic_Dude
Generic_Dude

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Killer_priest03
Killer_priest03

So what about the game freezing issues? I just talked to some of my friends on LIVE. It works for him, but HIS friend's copy doesn't. Same as mine.

technowiz999
technowiz999

wow talk about a misleading title for the article. its a glitch not a censorship ploy.

gandalf_storm
gandalf_storm

killer 73, australias doesnt have an 18 cert. for games, they have to be suitable for 15 year olds, films on the other hand do have adult ratings. I`m looking forward to get this episode, people tell me its good.

vietboi89
vietboi89

censorship is not for protection but to hide violence so that a murderous boy will kill when he is an adult so he can be tried as an adult and receive maximum sentence... well thats the onli reason why i would expect anyone to have a 15+ rating, sooner or later hes gonna see that pool of blood and violence somewhere along his life, might as well be real since censoring games dont do anything but aggravate people

Killer_73
Killer_73

why Australia make it for +18 why couldn't anyone play it freely

okassar
okassar

Sucks for them lol hehe

Deaho
Deaho

very good work Australia,I respect the country that care about them citizens.

remi06
remi06

i dont get why they have such strict censorship in austrailia just create an 18+ rating and not just stop at 15

ciaxhieu
ciaxhieu

lollllllll seriously, im going to check my game and if this is the same for my gta iv im going to be sooo pisss i mean the censorship is for Australia, not america right....

mcjakeqcool
mcjakeqcool

Ah, damn you censorship! Back in the days of Atari there was no censorship, if it was 18+ then the game was propper 18+ no messin around, now-a-days even 18+ games have been censored, things have never been the same since the 2600 was discounied on the 1st January 1992. Lol, mcjakeqcool.