Kojima axes Zone of the Enders sequel

Cancellation caused by disappointing Zone of the Enders HD Collection, says Metal Gear Solid creator.

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Plans to resurrect the Zone of the Enders series have fallen flat, series creator and Metal Gear Solid boss Hideo Kojima has confirmed.

Kojima spoke about the cancellation last night on his radio show (via Siliconera), saying that plans to continue the mech-battling series with a sequel to 2003's Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner have been scrapped, and that the development team working on the project have disbanded.

The Enders Project was originally announced in May 2012 during a Konami event in Japan, with Kojima hinting at a new setting for the now-cancelled sequel.

The decision to cancel the game was made after the recent Zone of the Enders HD Collection did not live up to the expectations of the series' fans. The development team has said it is working on patching the PlayStation 3 version of the game to improve its performance, but an Xbox 360 version of the patch is not currently in the works.

Zone of the Enders HD's switch from 30fps to 60fps disrupted the smooth combat of the originals, the developer has concluded.

Kojima finished by asking fans, once again, if they would like to see a new Zone of the Enders game.

Discussion

310 comments
beny_pimpster
beny_pimpster

wahaha Kojima's was one of those best game makers of all time ....and kojima got too comfortable on that perch so its expected that he will expereince poor sales and poor makes.heck rising had to ripp off fans. those 3 scenarious should been free.. though i heard now its free lol look at 3ds mgs and vita. the framerate was so bad da sales was soo bad haha

Zera777
Zera777

"We ported the game poorly, so clearly a sequel designed for next-gen consoles, actually optimized correctly and made to run correctly is out of the question."

See, it's this kind of crazy space logic that let Kojima write the plot for Metal Gear Solid 2.

CloudXentar
CloudXentar

Best mecha game I have ever played . Well, the first one was pretty average, but the 2nd runner was superb. Great gameplay and great characters. Shame about the 3rd one...

SparkyJJC
SparkyJJC

Me and my brother always absolutely loved this game. The whole reason we bought a PS3 and the HD collection is so we could both support the Z.O.E series and get to play it as soon as possible. We have waited for god knows how long. About a good 9 years. now. We couldn't give two craps whether the game was too laggy, or didn't support this, or that. We always looked on the good side because this was such a brilliant game. Now I have lost most my faith in Konami, because they cancelled a long-awaited sequel, just because the HD release didn't meet expectations. Of course it's not going to meet very many expectations! It's a HD re-release! Come on Konami! Think twice before you expect these things!

Cristhian_Cobas
Cristhian_Cobas

Well... I'd like to see a ZOE sequel... it would be pretty awesome... though I don't know about the other players and fans...

TacticaI
TacticaI

It says the HD collections didn't meet the fans expectations and the illiterates are reacting as if Kojima said it didn't make enough money. 

Someguy1212
Someguy1212

I blame putting the game on the 360 when the games were never made on the Xbox originally.

MidnightMeteor
MidnightMeteor

Only game franchise I liked from Kojima. Never got the HD versions, though I wanted too as I love the series. Think I'll stick to the originals for the time being.

Could care less about Kojima and is MGS following. No respect and hope the series dies.

anthony7648
anthony7648

The moral of this story is, if you want to see a sequel you really want to see, pretend that the rereleases are perfect and that they improve the games. One minor complaint can cancel the whole sequel.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

Go fuck yourself Kojima.  I'm sick of people pretending like these HD re-releases are somehow indicative of how a new game would sell.

I didn't buy your re-release because I already own the original games and can play them anytime.

nini200
nini200

Oh Kojima, how much you suck for this.  Glad I never bought your Metal Gear series now.

Well minus the NES ones.

hadlee73
hadlee73

ZOE has never been a particularly high seller, so this news comes as no surprise.

bkohary
bkohary

Am I reading that right?

"Zone of the Enders HD's switch from 30fps to 60fps disrupted the smooth combat of the originals, the developer has concluded."

Isn't it the other way around?

erMonezza
erMonezza

Son of a b****!

I bought both games for the PS2 and the HD collection. 

I would really like ZoE3, please.

ZoE2 was an amazing game! Really loved it and I don't even like the mecha anime or other games with the same thematic.


cheers

grey_fox1984
grey_fox1984

For the record, I bought the ZOE HD Collection

Chatch09
Chatch09

Kojima?!?!? WHAT THE FACK BRO!!!!

Dnaisinmybody
Dnaisinmybody

At least for once they didn't blame the pirates but their own damn selves. This is what happens when you release garbage. I'm a huge fan of those HD collections considering just how much the graphics are usually improved but I didn't even look twice at Zone of the enders HD after seeing how bad of a port it was. 

leonA0
leonA0

... were they expecting amazing sales from a HD remastery? .... i dont want to buy a game i already have. .... a bad HD remastery on top of that....

sreed315
sreed315

Too bad, ZOE was a better series the MGS any day of the week. MGS is not even a videogame in my book, just a bland soap opera with robots and nukes. Oh and the controls have always been god aweful, after what, 20 years of making MGS you would think they would make a better control layout but oh well, thats what the video game market is coming too these days.

ELEMENTZERO707
ELEMENTZERO707

dude! I need a third ZOE game! and the ports of the hd  may have looked pretty but they messed with the gameplay =.= so off-course it was not selling like hot cakes.

rkzhao
rkzhao

Why would I have paid $40 for a choppier poorly ported versions of two games I still have....

madsnakehhh
madsnakehhh

I remember there was a time when we felt sorry for Kojima, "oh poor guy he want's to make other projects but he is chained to MGS"...yeah, right..."chained" Kojima is a one trick pony, i doubt he can make a decent game outside the MGS franchise.

TheNubMaster
TheNubMaster

If its the same other places than it is here its not too surprising the collection didnt do well. I havent come across it in a single store where i live and its definitely hard to go buy it when there isnt a copy in stores to buy.

wuubbb
wuubbb

that's just lame, sorry i don't want to replay the exact same game.

kyle756
kyle756

Oh come on Kojima!, we waited years for this, and you shut it down cause of Konami's botched HD handling of the collection, meanwhile you have no problem of releasing the seventeenth or whatever repacking of metal gear

CecilChups
CecilChups

I blame Call of Duty. Yeah, Call of Duty's fault.

CMakaCreative
CMakaCreative

The whole reason I bought the HD versions was to show my support. Guess it wasn't enough. I was really hoping to see a new ZOE. At least I know now instead of waiting years like I am for the Last Guardian and FF Verses XIII.

Mizarzeug
Mizarzeug

Think Kojima thinking in the wrong way if a new ZOE is well made then people new to the saga will try to pirchase the first games. I thonk he dont want yo deal with the risk of doing a great game without the support of a blindless hype that people normally show with the MGS.

Sling_Master
Sling_Master

I love Zone of the Enders but the HD Collection makes me extremely disappointed. The excitement from ZoE2 is in how fast the combat is, but there are VERY RARE points in the game where it doesn't lag like shit. For them to give us an old game, put it on a new system and make it run like it's on a SNES is a slap in the face. Don't blame us for the cancellation of your game when you caused it. And if you fix your fuck-ups, I'll buy the next one.

guitardeth3
guitardeth3

I didn't even think the frame rate issues were that bad. And if this is the problem then why not move the project to ps4?

Gooshnads
Gooshnads

What, so "fans" [more like elitists] are complaining that 60 fps was TOO smooth?

Oh jeez, remember how people complain that Dark Souls was gonna be trash on PC because it ran at 30 max? lol...

AndrewII
AndrewII

It would be nice, but when you really look at the reality of the today's game market there is just no place for games like ZOE, let alone a sequel.

Allan_X
Allan_X

I am incapable of forming a coherent response to this. My natural inclination is to screech and claw at my keyboard like a wild animal.

AmethystViper
AmethystViper

@Someguy1212 Screw you. As if putting Z.O.E on Xbox 360 is the blame for all this; I don't see anybody complaining about MGS HD Collection, a collection of games originally from the PlayStation 2 and PSP, being ported on Xbox 360. Konami and Kojima screwed up by picking a mediocre dev team to work on Z.O.E HD Collection (that also screwed up Silent Hill's HD Collection before it) in the first place. It's as simple as that.

LesserAngel
LesserAngel

@nini200 Definitely lost a lot of respect for him after this, and I enjoyed MGS 1-4, not planning on buying 5 now though.

BradBurns
BradBurns

@bkohary 


Not always.

Some games are intentionally created at 30fps and should remain as such.

Mario Sunsine always comes to mind when discussing this. Miyamoto originally created it a 60fps but later changed it to 30fps. He said it didn't really feel like Mario at that level. It (60fps) can sort of change the feel of a game and isn't always necessary.

TacticaI
TacticaI

@leonA0 It says the remakes didn't meet fans expectations. 

OldKye
OldKye

@rkzhao Yeah it's too bad they didn't put that money towards making a new one.

Oh well sure hope that patch is worth it lol

Naylord
Naylord

@CMakaCreative Yea I hate how when most companies scrap projects they don't tell anyone. I guess they figure there is less of a fallout if people just slowly lose interest rather than being told straight up that there's never going to be a game. It's freaking annoying; we all know VS 13 is never happening and yet Square treats us like idiots.

Gobbomob
Gobbomob

@Mizarzeug  I'm not defending him, really.  But he's not the only one that thinks like that.  I recall it's the same deal with Capcom's Darkstalkers 4 coz' the Darkstalkers Resurrection failed to meet sales expectations for them.

Rizer
Rizer

@Mizarzeug I had the exact same thought. ZOE is a fairly older game with a cult following. It might have been better to just try to make a new title to both impress and renew interest, so the HD collection would hold more value to gamers other than old fans.

kyle756
kyle756

@Gooshnads No, it wasn't 60 as advertised, it was very inconsistent  check the review here on it

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@AndrewII There's no room for a solid action game?  You're out of your mind.