Kinect bundles outselling PlayStation Move bundles 5-to-1 - Analyst

Wedbush's Michael Pachter says under one-fifth of PS3 sales included Sony's motion controller--while two-thirds of Xbox 360 sales included its camera-based system.

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Yesterday, the NPD Group released its sales figures for the month of February. Though the research group no longer releases hardware sales numbers, Microsoft was all too happy to announce that the Xbox 360 had sold 535,000 units during the month. Sony did not release sales figures, but in a note to investors, Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter revealed that the company's console sold 403,000 units--51,000 units less than Nintendo's Wii.

The Kinect is outselling the Move 5-to-1 in bundle form, says Michael Pachter.

While enlightening, the console sales aren't the whole story. According to Pachter, over two-thirds of all Xbox 360 sales--or at least 358,000 units--were bundled with its Kinect motion-sensing system. By contrast, the analyst says under one-fifth--or fewer than 80,000 units--of PlayStation 3 sales were bundled with the Move controller, meaning the Kinect outsold it by a ratio of nearly 5-to-1. Pachter did not mention stand-alone accessory sales.

Indeed, the Kinect has proven a major success for Microsoft, shipping more than 10 million units worldwide as of this week. How the PlayStation Move has fared is less clear. In late November 2010, Sony announced that some 4.1 million Move controllers had shipped since they went on sale in September. However, since the Move system incorporates the PlayStation Eye--which has been available since 2007--it is unclear how many complete Move systems have been purchased.

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shani_boy101
shani_boy101

It's not like the only bundle you can get for the 360 is with the Kinect or anything...

Killswitch007
Killswitch007

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MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog It's a plus but PC load times are much quicker then both PS3 and 360. I've been researching your slow load times point and it seems it only stood for pre 2009 releases mainly. http://www.360-hq.com/article3695.html How they do this I don't know, perhaps the optimization is the anwser? Exclusives sell systems, Wii and PS2 proved this. Sony and a few developers release the info early for the fans but gain critism because it seems like it takes ages to release. Red Dead Redemption took 5 years to make, almost the same amount of time as the infamous 6 years GT5 took but it gets no stick because it wasn't revealed early. The power differance has begun showing since last year but undeniably both "lied" about how powerful their systems were however it's hard to compare the two because they run so differently. Halo: Reach is arguably the best looking 360 game until Gears Of War 3 releases but it looks no better then the exclusives PS3 had in 2008 (Resistance 2 is a good example). Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and God Of War 3 look good by PC standards let alone console standards; all be it with visual tricks the final effect is still very impressive. Killzone 3 in particular: MLAA doing it's job and the powerful Guerilla engine can render more polygons then the console version of Crysis 2 by threading it over the SPEs proving that the limited RAM and GPU isn't an issue like it would be on PC or 360 which are reliant upon them. Multiplat-wise you won't see much differance unless optimization is done (Final Fantasy 13, Crysis 2 and Rage are doing this). As I said sales figures only matter if the install base is too small. This isn't the case for any of the 4 systems.

TTDog
TTDog

Surely one of the big points of console gaming over PC's is that you don't have to install anything? Exclusives make little difference, for every FPS exclusive to one there's a comparable FPS exclusive on the other, so they generally tend to cancel each other out... as to whats to come MS tend to announce their games at E3 of the year of release, Sony too often reveal a game 18 months+ before release (LBP being a prime example) and thus you get accusations of constant delays because it always seems like an age for a game to come out. As to what the 360 has to offer... we'll see, the power difference of the two machines has been exagerrated, we should after 4 or more years be seeing the PS3 streets ahead if you believed all Sony said prior to launch... and we've not... if there was all that extra power we'd have seen a lot more evidence of it than we have to this point. And finally the only sales figures that matter are that both machines have sold enough to make developers produce for both, we no longer see games delayed because publishers don't think there's a market... the Xbox got several games late last gen as the machine hadn't shifted that many units, the PS3 didn't get Lost Planet, Bioshock etc for over a year for the same reason this time around.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog Exclusive-wise (this will unintentionally sound fanboy-ish) but aside from Halo, Gears Of War, Forza, Fable and Alan Wake what major exclusives does the 360 still have to offer? It's finest game Mass Effect has gone multiplat as have Bungie and Valve, Epic are showing interest in taking Gears muliplat once again and Alan Wakes sales were so much lower then expected I can see their developer wanting a higher return next time. Even Forza has stiff competition from GT5 on PS3 and the multiplay Shift 2 which is looking like a real contender. I honestly feel the 360 is only just behind Wii in being on its last legs; Microsoft seem to have abandoned the hardcore audience for the money the casual market can bring. I like Kinect but like Wii and Move it's not going to keep me entertained for months. Compared with what Wii, PC and PS3 have got now, I can't see where you're coming from on that because those 5 games have similar PS3 counterparts (GT5,Uncharted 3,MGS4,Heavy Rain,Motorstorm). For the first 2 years in the 360s life that was true, everyone bought a 360 for its top notch titles the PS3 didn't really offer. Since 2008 Sony have built themselves a fresh set of exclusives and 360 exclusives have gone walk about and Sony seem to be mounting a full-frontal assault this year. Wii is definately past its best but the PC is still going strong. SORRY IT'S IN 3 MESSAGES, I'D PAST 1500 LIMIT. (A good metaphor for my DVD/Bluray point )

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog The 360 is still closer to being a PC then the PS3 is. Any developer would tell you the same. It takes a couple weeks to port from PC to 360 or vice versa but takes months to do so for the PS3. That's because the PS3 doesn't rely upon its graphics card heavly but uses its cells and SPUs to take the load. PCs don't do that. Either way, how is a console being compared to a PC a bad thing?, they are quick and efficient gaming platforms. All the time a developper wastes trying to get their game to fit into a 9gig disc is time they could spend on making the game better. Having more space in anything is never a bad thing. The original Lost Planet was a superb game, the sequel was a let down; who's to say it wasn't caused by the cuts? The PS2 fail rate isn't anywhere near the 60% fail rate some surveys have placed the 360 at originally. I can believe it because my first 360 broke in 1 month and the second in 6, the third one is going fine. Any macjhine can break regardless of fail rate percentages, it's generally pot luck.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog I was talking by regions as in the 3 major markets, Japan, Europe and America. The load-up times are the long ones. In between level loading times aren't as long and many games don't do it now. Look at it this way, say for arguments sake it takes 15 seconds on 360 to load a game off a 9gig disc, the PS3 takes 15 seconds more at 30 seconds to read a 50 gig disc. The amount of space each laser has to read is more then 5x different, can't you see the longer boot up time is inevitable? Installs is as you anything from 4 minutes to 25, it's no big deal. PC gamers do installs all the time.

TTDog
TTDog

@MEDzZ3RO: Wrong... I'm in the UK, where the 360 is outselling the PS3 still, the rest of Europe tends to be the other way around... as mentioned there are only two, brand heavy, multiformat titles that sell better on the PS3. And the 15 second difference being from start up to play... so not taking into account every load that takes place whilst playing, moving from level to level... and and install is still an install, you even have to install a demo on the PS3, funny how PS2 owners used to mock the Xbox for being a PC-Lite while now the PS3 is more PC than any other console. I'd rather see a developer work around the problems caused by a perceived lack of storage space as it shows they can do their job, and the number of games cut short because of DVD size is tiny, Lost Planet 2 no big loss, hardly a Hall of Fame type game was it. Sales wise I just hate hypocracy, PS3 owners mock the 360 sales figures for being "supposedly" beefed up with replacement consoles but the PS2's figures would have been just as equally inflated through the DRE problem when that launched... I'm on my 3rd PS2 yet I've only had one Xbox and one 360 (granted it's been repaired twice but they never charged me 135 notes like Sony wanted to)... this is the first generation I've not owned all the consoles because there's very little that's PS3 exclusive to interest me.. and Move is certainly not in that category.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TazSteele Atleast someone agrees with us, lol. It's difficult not to look biased when arguing for one system or another. Can't be picky though, I only respond to people so the subject's whatever they make it.

TazSteele
TazSteele

MEDzZ3RO ftw! :) I really enjoy reading facts, not biased opinions. Well said on all aspects MEDzZ3RO.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog In America (where I assume you're from), the PS3 isn't selling that wel so I can't blame you from thinking the PS3's not selling well; everywhere else however it's selling more then the 360.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog Wrong. Sony always planned for the PS3 to have a near ten year cycle. It will likely keep going until 2014, people are already making the change to Bluray now seeing as HD TVs are dirt cheap now. Why make a developpers job harder then it needs to be?, there was no way any developper could fit Killzone 3 onto 1 9gig DVD disc, the gap is far too great and the coding would be so complicated and still wouldn't fit the 1 DVD. The developers need breathing space past the 9 gig limit, as I said before devs have made cuts because of it. As an average, from the disc being put in to getting to main menu most games have a 15 seconds different yes, that's the average. Give or take some games will be more or less. When the game's up and running it's no differant. The install's a one off, no different then when you install a PC game onto the PC itself. Where GT5 is concerned the update makes it WAY quicker. Updates happen across the board. Sales don't matter to the fans. It's irrelevant aslong as sales are good enough to not compromise online gameplay (lack of players). PS3's selling fine, if you did bother with statistics you'd know. Less then a 4 million gap between 360 and PS3 now; not forgetting the 360 has been in the market 1 year longer. On that basis, a year by year basis, the PS3 has sold more. One year ago to this date exactly the 360 had sold less then the PS3 has in the same time span (roughly 1-3 million less).

TTDog
TTDog

When the PS2 used DVD's people were ready for a new format... that wasn't the case with Blu-Ray, Sony even admitted that they used the PS3 as a Trojan Horse to get Blu-Ray players into peoples homes rather than any real advantage for games... people were ready to move from VHS to DVD... and for many DVD's are still more than adequate, with Blu-Ray still evolving it was just too early to implement it... but they went ahead anyway... sheer arrogance. 41.5Gb for Killzone 3... so what... it's not made the campaign any longer, it's not added features that wouldn't have been there otherwise, it's just uncompressed code, the extra storage space has just allowed developers to be lazy rather than find a better solution... why find a way of keeping textures down to 1Gb of space when they can use 10Gb of space? Only 15 seconds difference? Each time or for the whole game? No way is it for the whole game, and let's not forget the many mandatory installs caused by the poor read speed taht just don't happen on the Wii or 360, if you have to wait 20 minutes to install the game that's 20 minutes other people have already spent playing the game... if you're talking delays in playing the same game that's got to be considered as well. I've never really bothered with statistics... lets not forget that Sales figures were massively important to PS2 fans when they were ahead, but with the PS3 selling poorly they suddenly ceased to matter.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog Care to point out a more accurate statistics site related to gaming?; games/console sales are updated weekly. You're suggesting everything they do is based on guesswork?, that's laughable. Bluray's cheap now, the cells are what knocked the price up as did the PS2 emulation hence why they dropped it. It was put in for 3 reasons, the first being that it's something the other two rivals don't have and the second being that the PS1 had CD playback, the PS2 had music and DVD playback, so the next logical upgrade was Bluray. The 3rd and final reason was that any game would fit on 1 disc, Killzone 3 for instance (41.5 gigs) would take up 5 9GB Xbox 360 discs but fits on 150 gig bluray. Develppers have been known to make cuts from their game so it will fit on one 360 disc, Lost Planet 2 anyone? Calling the blu-ray read speeds "shocking" is an over statement.15 seconds is the regular difference between the PS3 Bluray drive and 360 DVD drive loading the same game. For large games which require multiple discs, it would take 15 seconds or more to go and change it. It's negligible unless your life is so jam packed and that we have all grown so spoilt that those 15 seconds are necessary?

TTDog
TTDog

I've heard it all now... VGChartz respected and accurate... never thought I'd see the day. Sony also screwed up on Blu-Ray... it's a nice idea have a larger storage area but the read speeds are shocking, it was shoehorned in to try and sell the players more than any gaming application... which knocked the price up and screwed them on that.

StJimmy15
StJimmy15

@pphatmat he's been in denial since like march 11th... What does the first sentence in the third paragraph say? Just so I know its not just me.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog VGchartz are the most respectable site on the web as far as gaming figures go,they are the most accurate. I'm not talking by region, I'm talking by system. Regionally Gran Turismo and Killzone sell better in Europe then anywhere else. It wasn't laziness, business shows that if your first 2 products do well that everything afterwards will continue to do so, Apple and Nintendo are good examples. Sony had two slip ups this generation, price and release date (last). That's what's made the 360 sell so well, it aced both. Wii sold well for being different and affordable. If Sony put out an affordable system from the start the 360 would of been dead in the water, it had no Nintendo niche and a small fanbase last generation. The exclusive developpers wouldn't have parted with Sony either. Trends suggest that since the PS3 price drops more people are buying the system. Sony messed up.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@TTDog Well put. Sony has been very arrogant this Gen because of the massive success of the PS and PS2. Developers have said as much, and it is easily seen in the once solid PS exclusive franchises moving to multi platform launches.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@pphatmat Not exactly sure what your comment means.

TTDog
TTDog

Simply because Gamespot isn't posting news stories in a good light (becasue they're aren't any) doesn't make them bias. Using that theory all the worlds news stations and papers are biased against Japan because all we hear about the country is disaster stories.

TTDog
TTDog

@MEDzZ3R0: VGChartz has very little credibility, sure they update their figures when official verified ones are released but this is once a month at best... generally it's all guesswork. And it has to be gueswork as Europe don't tend to give out sales figures console wise... so you have to look elsewhere, in the UK there are maybe two multiformat titles that sell better on the PS3 and they're both titles that tend to appeal to those who value brand names over anything else... FIFA and Need For Speed. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Sony offered very little in the way of advertising budget for Move (and we don't have any concrete evidence of what the budget was) because they arrogantly thought the sheep would buy it because they've always swallowed anything Sony produce without question... when surely the slow uptake of the PS3 sue to it's high price was a perfect example that the gaming public wasn't prepared to do that. Sony simply grew lazy and arrogant because the PS1 and PS2 sold millions, aided by piracy that they're now trying to stamp out because it's not helping their cause... double standards FTW!

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

Ahhh look what I've started.. Calm down guys. I'm not wearing Sony-tinted glasses as some of you seem to be portraying, I'm discussing all aspects of the website. For example a multi-format game article will generally always take you to the Xbox360 page to view it. It's sometimes feels like the other systems get shunned (unless that's due to a lot of games being ported over, in which case the 360 would have the more polished game). There has been good coverage of the other consoles, I won;t deny that, but nothing in comparison to Microsoft's. More often than not the articles seem too happy to blow Microsoft's horn than any other company. But it's ironic because the PC often get's avoided too. I'm not taking sides here, but there is still a slight sniff of biased interests on this website. Don't take that as me trying to state a fact, it's just my point of view. And can I just say that MEDzZ3RO has actually stated some interesting facts, it's a shame some of you seem too bone-idle to take them into account.

pphatmat
pphatmat

@Phatjam98 Raging out bro?

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@StJimmy15 LOL ok so no you didn't read the article. Or maybe its No, you don't care what the actual article said? Because, third paragraph, first sentence does not say specifically shipped. That is the same paragraph I copied in my last post. LOL that sentence says that they did not break it down or specifically state "sold-in (shipped) or sold-through (actually sold to customers)". LOL are you facepalming because you like to do that to yourself? READ THE ARTICLES BEFORE YOU MOUTH OFF. You make youself look silly. The sentence you just cited does not say shipped or sold, just as I said in my previous two posts. You are either just a huge MS hater that cant allow yourself to read the facts or you just aren't paying attention to what you are reading. Read that paragraph again. Do I need to cut and paste it again for ya? You say things that show your bias, like you don't care what the breakdown is. The breakdown could be 6mil sold and 10mil total shipped or it could be 9.5mil sold 10mil shipped. And you've already tipped your hand on it that you don't care. What is your deal buddy. Do you own Stock in Nintendo or Sony or something? I don't get why you are so dead set against MS and Kinect that you clearly don't pay attention to what you are reading and citing.

StJimmy15
StJimmy15

@Phatjam98 No, dude.... just.. no. Third paragraph, first sentence, it specifically says that M$ shipped 10 mil. I dont care what the breakdown is, the point is that 10 million haven't been sold directly to customers. I haven't facepalmed this much since the '08 election.

IceJester45
IceJester45

I haven't noticed any bias toward any system at GameSpot. I agree with @TTDog. If anything, the news--not GameSpot's coverage--has been "anti-Sony" recently.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

It's bizarre. Go on a 360 thread there's hatred towards the PS3. Go on a PS3 thread and theirs hatred towards the 360. Why?, I have no idea, perhaps because the sales are so tight? The PC and Wii are technically in this generation too you know... Whatever sells, sells; our public bickering doesn't have a large enough audience to change any of that. Being wrong and right however is a different matter, don't spread rubbish to suit yourselves.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog Move isn't doing well for 4 reasons: 1/ it's too pricey if you want to play with multiple people, 2/ Solo gamers won't find many games for Move that aren't fine without Move (Killzone 3, Heavy Rain, Little Big Planet 2, Socom 4..etc..), 3/ Microsoft has spent over half a billion dollars on Kinect marketing (they spent 200 million on Halo 3 markating) whilst Sony have always remained clueless on how to promote things and 4/ I believe the PS3 has a higher average aged gamer then the 360. Why?, I hear you ask. Kinect is selling well and games like the Lego games are selling incredibly on 360 whilst on PS3 it's in the thousands rather then millions. Number 4 is my personal opinion/observation and something that would need further research to be proven. You're welcome to pop on over to VGchartz and check I've not conjured the facts out of my rear end like you did. Both systems have their pros and cons but don't post statements you've based on nothing.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@TTDog Nonsense. You should research a bit before stating inaccurate facts. Suppose you've not heard of VGchartz?, as far as worldwide figures go the PS3 has been "catching up" to 360 sales. The PS3 has had one bad year, release year where the 360 outsold the PS3 by a massive 5 million units. Following year the 360 outsold the PS3 by 100 000 units. Year after that by 1million. Now this is where the PS3 has come into its own, 2009 the PS3 outsold 360 by 3 million units. Last year by 1 million. That's no coincidance. Up until 2008 the PS3 had "no games" and was too pricey. Prices dropped and new exclusives started to appear, that trend has continued. Different multi-platform games sell better on each platform. Shooters sell better on 360 but racers sell better on PS3. That's no coincidance either, 360 users by the system for Halo and Gears = shooters whereas alot of PS3 owners bought it for Gran Turismo. Sales are also spreadout more on PS3 for the simple fact it offers more triple A exclusives (proven so by sales). Final Fantasy's another good example, it sold 4 million on PS3 but 1 million on 360. That again is down to History, FF 7 was one of the most popular PS1 games and almost every PS3 owner from the 90's owned it. Every console has their most popular genres/franchises.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@Phatjam98 "I find it funny that" you think that I think Gamespot are biased. I merely stated in response to someone else who did say Gamespot are biased that it's possible; which it entirely is. Only someone on the inside could officially say.

hatieshorrer
hatieshorrer

@TTDog You couldnt be more right if anything gamespot favors Sony. If the PS3 out sales any major console for a day in any major region gamespot will put up an article about it. When the Wii out sales the PS3 and it usually dose they cry conspiracy.

TTDog
TTDog

For all those accusing Gamespot of bias have you ever considered the lack of Sony good news coverage has something to do with... you know... the lack of any Sony good news? Its not selling well, it's casual tastic Move isn't selling well, it's games sell less than other versions of the same game... it's hard to report good Sony stories when they just don't exist.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@MEDzZ3RO It is funny that you think that gamespot is biased toward MS. I think they have finally, after years of being very Sony friendly, balanced out to being pretty fare across the board. Now there are definitely some reviewers that work for Gamespot that clearly are biased in one way or another. The reviews done for DeadSpace 2 were way off in my opinion. The PS3 got a 9.0 and the PC and 360 versions got an 8.5. The reason stated was that the 360 had multiple discs(2) and that the PS3 version included the fairly bad DeadSpace for the Wii. Honestly this game should have gotten 10's across the board as it was fantastic in every way. But reviews are one thing that are based on opinion and can be biased. Financial news is generally not based on opinion and is fairly transparent. Like I said, if the news was false someone would be facing legal troubles for tampering.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@StJimmy15 "Microsoft did not break down sales by region or say whether or not the figure was for units sold-in (shipped) or sold-through (actually sold to customers). However, the figure was apparently good enough to qualify the Kinect for the Guinness World Record for "fastest-selling consumer electronics device." According to the beer-backed record book, the Kinect averaged 133,333 units sold per day for a total of 8 million units between November 4, 2010, and January 3, 2011--its first 60 days on the market." Taken from the article you gave me the title of. It can be located here: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6303016.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B0 So yes I have a question.... Did you read the article or just the headline? As I stated in my post, they did not specify shipped or sold as the article clearly states. So again, just to be clear, my question is two fold. One, did you read the article or just the headline. And Two, Did you read my post or just skim it so as to skip over the substance of my words?

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@Sigil-otaku PS3 this, PS3 that; you'd think that was what I was talking about.... I've been commenting on multiple comments on multiple subjects, I'm not bothered who or what it threatens; I just found the idea of Gamespot being biased that someone brought up interesting. Glad to hear you don't believe me to be a fanboy. It's an overused word often implied as an insult. I like my PS3 but I also like my Wii, PC and 360. I'm not so into Kinect I have to admit but I will play it with my sister from time to time and it is fun. Not enough evidence to say Gamespot are biased because their scoring system proves that they don't seem to favour a system. I wll say this though, Call Of Duty gets alot of praise considering how it's not changed over the last 4 years; but that's just my personal opinion.

Sigil-otaku
Sigil-otaku

@MEDzZ3RO: You say it is the same news 3 times but to be fair it's not really that important. To call Gamespot biased over a 1 month period of reporting some MS news, which the third only came into play because of the peripheral sales itself and how much were being sold with consoles seems odd. Take it on the chin, this is hardly a death threat to Sony that during one month MS had better sales in guess where, America. I'm not calling you a fanboy but you do seem to not be able to take this news on the chin very well. It's just some sales figures so hardly going to kill any PS3 gamers. I understand your worried they are biased, if it continues then make the point again but right now it doesn't seem sufficient evidence wise or scale wise for it to matter.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@Phatjam98 I never said that. I said it's possible in response to someone elses opinion. I'm am not the biased person you are making me out to be. I haven't criticized any of the systems. Merely stated facts and the fact is this piece of news has been dished out to us 3 times in 3 separate ways. We already know this because they've told us.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@MEDzZ3RO so you think that reporting actual news is bias? This wasn't an opinion piece. It was an article laying out sales figures reported to share holders. Just in case you didn't know, it is illegal to report sales figures inaccurately to shareholders. You end up in jail for that sort of thing. So when sales reports come out like this one, you can be fairly certain that they are factual. Its cool that you are a Sony fan, more power too ya. But to do this whole "Their bias because they didn't say something that makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside" is just silly. I could see the emotional hit you would take if you were financially invested in Sony, but otherwise it is quite silly of you to act as that way. Sale are what sales are. Move is just not interesting casual or hardcore gamers alike. Kinect is. Most people see Move, the cost of the PS3 and Move accessories. They see or even try out the Move and they say to themselves... Its the Wii all over again. But either they have a Wii or they see the price difference and they get the Wii instead. Its really that simple. So its not bias to report financial news in any way.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@MEDzZ3RO so you think that reporting actual news is bias? This wasn't an opinion piece. It was an article laying out sales figures reported to share holders. Just in case you didn't know, it is illegal to report sales figures inaccurately to shareholders. You end up in jail for that sort of thing. So when sales reports come out like this one, you can be fairly certain that they are factual. Its cool that you are a Sony fan, more power too ya. But to do this whole "Their bias because they didn't say something that makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside" is just silly. I could see the emotional hit you would take if you were financially invested in Sony, but otherwise it is quite silly of you to act as that way. Sale are what sales are. Move is just not interesting casual or hardcore gamers alike. Kinect is. Most people see Move, the cost of the PS3 and Move accessories. They see or even try out the Move and they say to themselves... Its the Wii all over again. But either they have a Wii or they see the price difference and they get the Wii instead. Its really that simple. So its not bias to report financial news in any way.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@Sythion Very true, a single core game will always outsell a casual game in pure sales numbers. However, the sheer amount of casual games will always be higher than core games. Casual games are cheaper to make, and can be produced at a much faster rate. Angry Birds for example is wildly popular and available on so many different devices its crazy. They are even adding it to facebook in the near future. The fact still remains that there are far more casual gamers than their are casual gamers. I also have to say you are sadly mistaken about the Kinect third party games. The top 3 selling games for Kinect are: Dance Central: MTV Games - Harmonix Kinect Sports: Microsoft Your Shape: Fitness Evolved: Ubisoft Only one of them is from Microsoft. In fact of the initial 17 Kinect games released, only 4 are from MS. Nintendo is not like either Sony or MS in that the flagship games for the Wii are Nintendo products. Mario, Kong, Zelda.... so many others that we all know and love and the reason we buy Nintendo products. Sony and MS rely on quality 3rd party developers to drive their platforms. If third party's dont develop quality games for the Kinect and Move they will both be dead on arrival. Out the gate it seems that is not the case. Check out some news about upcomming Kinect games. They are not comming from MS.

StJimmy15
StJimmy15

@Phatjam98 "Microsoft, SHIPPING more than 10 million units worldwide as of this week." Any questions?

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@Sigil-otaku I know but they've essentially made the same article 3 times but just compare it to different products. Facts are indeed facts but do we need it 3x over or are they running out of news to give us? If they wanted weekly/monthly sales of all 3 systems they need do is use Vgchartz. As I said, we have no proof but it's an interesting assumption don't you think? @OU_Munky That is biased, lol.

Sigil-otaku
Sigil-otaku

MEDzZ3RO: Well it just seems weird to suggest that they should not report news when a game is the fastest selling of all time, or when a peripheral launches to ignore it's sales. It makes complete sense and the analysis came from a 3rd person so I see no bias. This just reminds me of the launch of the PS3 when all sites were being called bias for just reporting facts on sales of the PS3. Yes I do know that but it seems like we're then taking too much liberty if we go as far as to call them biased on merely reporting news. You'd need something to actually back it up and not just say MS is doing good and a news site is reporting news.

OU_Munky
OU_Munky

Would you say they are biased...or would you say as a gaming media outlet that they focus on the best overall gaming experience available at this time.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@blancobo @warhawk-geeby I have to agree with both of you. I'd be biased to say Gamespot doesn't come across biased. Whether it is or not is yet to be proven but the latest articles are suspect. @Sigil-otaku It's not the content it's the amount of it. As Warhawk pointed out, does Gamespot not think it's news we've not already heard?; it seems rather irrelevant. No professional site would be as blatant as you suggest stating "*** is better then ***". They'd lose credibility, you know that.

whataguy69
whataguy69

All you who are saying this article is meant to start 'system wars' are probably ps3 owners who are jealous of the success kinect's been getting. I would like to congratulate Microsoft for their achievement.

Sigil-otaku
Sigil-otaku

@Warhawk-geeby: So how are articles based on factual sales, which simply have a title that gives you an idea of the content of the article biased? Sales are facts so it is not biased in any way. If they were biased they'd be claiming the 360 was the best and the others are crap, not posting factual sales by analysts they have no control over.

thebeachguy90
thebeachguy90

@warhawk-geeby I agree, these sales articles were only meant to start console wars and separate the gaming community even more. Otherwise it's pointless. Companies are the ones that should be worrying about sales not us consumers. Very pointless putting sales articles on a gaming website.

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

Right okay.. I said this last week and basically got a kick in the teeth. But when I say Gamespot are biased i meant this.. Recent articles in the last week: Kinect bundles outselling PlayStation Move bundles 5-to-1 - Analyst Xbox 360 to outsell Wii over last 12 months - Analyst Call of Duty: Black Ops top US game of all time, Xbox 360 sells 535,000 in Feb. - NPD I'm sorry but can no-one else see how much this website leans towards the 360?? There's never any positive articles about any other system, just negative one's compared to Microsoft's greatness. And then if you say anything against it you get your comment's blocked. It's bull. They don't like folks arguing and yet they encourage fanboyism.. It's a joke! Screw it. I may just do a Libya and revolt.