Kaz Hirai: PS4 is 'first and foremost' a video game console

Sony CEO asserts the PlayStation 4 as primarily a gaming console, but adds that more non-game functionality will be revealed in time.

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Following Microsoft's plan to position its upcoming Xbox One as a living room entertainment device, Sony Corporation president and CEO Kazuo "Kaz" Hirai has stressed that the PlayStation 4 is a video game console first. The news came as Hirai spoke at the D11 conference held this week in the US, according to The Verge.

Sony's stance on the PS4 is clear: Gaming comes first.

"The most important thing we need to do is agree and understand that the PS4 is a great video game console that appeals to video gamers. If we miss that part, I don't think we get the initial establishment of the console. That formula has worked for us with all our consoles, including the PS3."

In addition, Hirai said that Sony would reveal more PS4 functions not related to video games. "Providing other non-game content is an area we will reveal and talk about in the coming months, but it's first and foremost a video game console."

Sony Computer Entertainment's E3 press conference will be held on June 10, just before E3 2013 starts.

Discussion

758 comments
BlackBaldwin
BlackBaldwin

Kaz come on you don't fool me I remember not so long ago a predecessor of yours made the mistake of saying that the ps3 wasn't a gaming console but a entertainment machine or something like that but nice try to fool the sheep though.

sinistrad_bane
sinistrad_bane

I remember when you had to run your console thru a VCR to record walkthroughs to show your friends.... boy time have changed XD

Shango4
Shango4

I will try to forgive the microsoft fanboys for the years of constant bashing about PS3 over years that has spanned great reasons like: 1. "Your interface is ass" 2. "You guys online sucks" and 3. the never-ending "You guys got hacked", to stupid shit like: 1."We have more/better exclusives" -_-. "Da Fuk is PS PLUS?!?". All that is under the rug now :). Sooo, on behalf of the loyal PS community that has been since PS "One" (lulz), we formally invite you to the Darkside! Yay!

pszone
pszone

I think PS4 will win next console race if not PlayStation face axe. I like idea  you can recorded your own walkthrough and also with can play ps1,ps2,ps3 games on ps4 and recorded walkthrough on old games..           It need let people if they want to buy new game or pre owned . I believe last console anyway .   Question how get games on ps4 what brought  PSN Sony need answer?         I cant wait towowow

skiggy29
skiggy29

Funny how he mentioned they will be mentioning the "other" features that dont have anything to do with games.  Listen my friends, Sonys PR saw MS get bashed for not showing games at its reveal and fed on it.  Telling you believers that the PS4 is first a gaming console.  LOL I cant wait for all you people to see how similar these companies are going to be.  Funny how the damn hardware is damn near the same.....  How is it, with all of the technology and harware we have today, they both end up using damn near the same hardware????  Like its ALWAYS been, its going to be about games and exclusives. Both these machines are entertainment machines along side of gaming machines. Shit Sony even incorporated that "share" button to show off your gaming on social networks.  Thats not really gaming.  Dont be stupid people,  Youll see.

mav_destroyer
mav_destroyer

by non-gaming functionality he means functionality that makes you pay them more money to do things you should already have the right to do with your console, right?

Akuro-san
Akuro-san

All Sony need to do, is see where everyone's annoyed at microsoft and do the opposite - they're soley based on games, which is a plus, they want to come out sooner (which, considering the consoles are technically very similar is a major plus), and finally, they have proper funtions which make sense, like why have voice chat out of the game, when people can talk in game and help out if its needed? As long as I dont have to pay for used\borrowed games and if they allow localised backwards compatibility, then I am SOLD and WILL save up now

Splincir
Splincir

Isnt this the same guy who gave us RIIIIIDDDGE RAAAAACER!!! :D 

No seriously though maybe he was just worried Sony would get hit in its "weak spot".

Sorry couldn't resist.

blue_shift_91
blue_shift_91

so the CEO basically said ,"we got fked last gen, so we're just gonna stick to games for now. maybe more functions later if we feel safe enough..."

spindie
spindie

All sony has to do is allow used games without fee and BAM, they win the console war.. Hands down... whats there to think about?

longy07
longy07

If Xbox one or ps4 do that I won't be buying them I buy used games all the time

Vertigem
Vertigem

Sony, come take my money now. Gimmme my preciouuuuzzzz...

JMcN76
JMcN76

I'm not a fanboy for either system--I have both a PS3 and a 360--that being said, there is no way I am going to get an XBox One if all that is being said about it is true. Downloadable games only--no discs? Always on camera? Internet connection required at all times? 

No thanks.

Danwylde
Danwylde

I can't wait to see how much Red Ring of Death sh!tbox one will get in the first years, Sony i'm with you!

LE5LO
LE5LO

HOW SONY WILL LOSE A CUSTOMER (JUST LIKE MICROSOFT HAS):

√ If the PS4 has a camera that is being constantly powered. 

√ I'll need an internet connection everyday just to access my games. 

√ Sony make me register all games to ONLY one system.

√ All my games will have pre-owned fees and the money goes to Sony. 

If Sony implement even one of those plans I won't be buying one.

mwamba1
mwamba1

I'm going to miss the XBox controller.

Gankstar_VX84
Gankstar_VX84

Sony was taught a serious lesson the first 2 years of the PS3s life, and this shows that they've (atleast on some level) learnt from their mistakes. But the X1 just completely baffles me. Sure x1 has a sweet controller, but they called it the x1, I mean they called the 360 a 360 because they didn't want to seem like they were behind the competition, so to rival ps4 they call it xbox one, and then copy Sony's mistakes by releasing yet another entertainment box to collect dust under your TV. pff just seems strange is all... perhaps it's all about some government plot to install kinect 2.0 in your home, lol

lbryson8
lbryson8

Haha my favorite part of this is they probably made their system an all in one device then saw the xone reveal then looked at eachother and said "shit... time to act like we didnt make the same system as the xone"

Enforcer246
Enforcer246

Microsoft fucked themselves on this one. lol

Only morons with too much money and old people trying to be hip will buy the XBO.

MalakTawus
MalakTawus

-Ps4 won't require to be online, Xbox One yes.

-Ps4 won't have any DRM for used games, Xbox One yes.

-Ps4 won't be region locked and for all gamers that import (me included) this is VERY important. Xbox One will be region locked (ARE YOU SERIOUS?????).

-ps4 have a much better gpu than Xbox One

-ps4 have far superior rams

-I don't know how much HD ps4 will have, but Xbox One have only 500Gb, way too small despite all the crap that their "analists" say. This way you should add to the console's price also the price for an external hd since it would be almost mandatory.

-Xbox One will work ONLY with Kinect connected........quite creepy....

CONCLUSION: There are way too many reasons to buy a ps4 over an Xbox One. We'll see about game exclusives, but something tells me that overall Ps4 will destroy Xbox One almost surely.....

crazy-roman
crazy-roman

@skiggy29 I think it's okay to have these other options which are GAME ORIENTATED, loads copy footage and post on Youtube for example, so the easier the better now, but at least the sharing is related to the games, yes I understand there are other parts to my console like the previous consoles, they can play music, they can update my Facebook whatever, those are choices. However the X1 seems restrictive, it's taken away the "I can" and replaced it with "I need to", I used to be able to choose to plug my console in and go online, now I have to. Which causes issues itself, I can't buy a game and lend it to my friend for 2 weeks and then have it back. Which is stupid. Where this may not effect me so much, as my friends tend to come to mine to play, or it's online so we don't lend often but can happen, I can still see the effects on others. But even so, they pushed this TV stuff so much, yet a lot of locations won't be supported. I just don't know, there's no turn around with that. Then when rumours like that become true, when people come out to say MS are paying third parties to not show games for the PS4, you can see why. But we don't comment on rumours and speculation.

pszone
pszone

@spindie I think Sony win Next Gen and allow pre owned games  cross fingers

skiggy29
skiggy29

@spindie  

Its not that easy.  Your going to get people who dont care about the used game fee's. Plus with MS architecture you really dont have to buy used games if you have a friend that has the game you want.  All you have to do is log into their cloud space and play it off their console.  

Splincir
Splincir

@spindie I think in one way you are right. This is a console war this time around, but not in the way all the fanboys think. Its not about Sony vs MS. Its about how relevant consoles are as a gaming system, and how that fits into everyone's living room. Its about how the buying consumers feel about the entertainment device they a putting there. Cloud gaming/computing, universal accounts with your game, music, movie licenses tied to them. PCs have gone this direction for some time now. Microsoft is just taking the step to tie this all together. I dont see Sony doing it much differently. Honestly IF they do, I think theyll lose out a large, large number of sales to new potential customers who dont just play games. 

These devices are moving well beyond a simple "Game box" and into something entirely different. Call it a PC if you want but i dont know too many families with a PC in their living room with voice control and the ability to act as a DVR, blu-ray, social media, gaming, etc. Theyre trying to bring all the things we do into one device and one room. 

People need to leave the apple mentality behind, the whole one device for one task thing is what is broken. You need an ipod to play your music, and iphone to communicate, and ipad for...? what do people need those for anyway(but you need one still right), an ibook for mobile computing, and an imac for desktop work.

skiggy29
skiggy29

@JMcN76  

Let me enlighten you.  You'll be able to buy games discs, the console only has to access the internet 1 time per day( just like Im sure your consoles do everyday as it is now) and as far as the Kinect is concerned, you can shut it off.  Im curious to see what that nice Eye Toy that comes with the PS4 is gonna need to do............

Splincir
Splincir

@JMcN76   Most of what is being said was speculation from the previous press conference. Id wait till E3 for more solid info. Till then you can read http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

Should get rid of most of those rumors and concerns. No fees. multi use license for up to 10 people, on disc or digital. The discs only use will be to install the game anyway.

Last I read the camera and mic can be disable in all but kinect only games were obviously the kinect is required.

As said before once every 24 hours the xbox will sync the system to the cloud to check for updates and new game licenses or changes to current licences. Ex. you bought or sold a game.

106473
106473

@JMcN76 You can turn off the camera, and it wont need a connection all the time. At least that's the latest, it could change.

MagneticFusion
MagneticFusion

@LE5LO Agreed. If Sony does the same things as M$, then I'll get a Wii-U faster than you can say Xbox or PS4.

I highly doubt that Sony will do any of those, though. This is their chance to utterly crush M$. They will do the opposite of everything on that list (except maybe letting publishers decide about the used game thing).

This will be a PS4 next-gen landslide. :)

P.S. I've been a M$ supporter since the first Xbox and haven't had a Sony system since PS2. Consider me a convert if Sony does the opposite of M$. Aw yeah.

Splincir
Splincir

@LE5LO Well good thing even the Xbox one doesnt do at least 3 of those things. I say at least 3 because of the camera. (non-issue anyway)

the one thats true is internet once a day. Show of hands who plays all their games offline. Show of hands who doesnt connect their system to the internet at all. Who does that? I dont see the issue of a once a day connection, even if you have dial-up. :/

The games wont be for only ONE system. Well unless you mean ANY Xbox ONE that you sign in to. Then sure youre right. Any Xbox ONE will have your whole game library available to you.

Oh and last one.... NO FEES. Unless publishers decide to do some crazy DRM MS or Sony will not be charging fees.

longy07
longy07

U r right m8 if it happens no one shudder buy them

MagneticFusion
MagneticFusion

@mwamba1 I'm going to miss those Xbox controllers, too... Ah well. The Xbone creeps me out so much that it's going to be an easy switch.

That Kinect can scan my room and measure skin flushes to approximate my heartrate? I don't f______ think so! M$ couldn't pay ME to put one of those in my home.

digits52
digits52

@mwamba1 Yep ur not the only one hopping ships, however waiting on E3.. no not for the Xbox One but further details on what Sony has in store for us as far as System details (Hoping there not even somewhat resembling what Microsoft has done) As far as both systems controllers.. I like both, but have always been more comfortable with the dual shock and feel its far superior than Xbox.. IMO anyway

sneakthief81
sneakthief81

@lbryson8 That's exactly what I thought too! :p I could see em at Sony going ape sh!t..."everyone listen up..complete overhaul..lets scrap the page from M$'s playbook..ASAP!" hahaha..looking forward to PS4 getting it right and cut all the MS BS out of their console..

blackace
blackace

@Enforcer246 The cable/tv market is different from the gaming. I think they are trying to draw in other customers besides gamers. Same way Sony did with the PS3. They were trying to draw in the movie and television fans with Blu-Ray. It seems Microsoft might go back to their roots with exclusive games. The same way they launched the original XBox, which had like 20 exclusives in less then 12 months. I still have Mad Dash, Azurik & Amped.

MagneticFusion
MagneticFusion

@MalakTawus It's "analyst" dude... "analist" sounds like somebody who specializes in "something else"... LOL

106473
106473

@MalakTawus I'm hoping for a 1T HD or more I got a 250 GB the other year and filled it up in less than 3 months.

skiggy29
skiggy29

@Splincir @spindie  

You are absolutely right hence my post up above.  Everyone seems to think that Sony is creating a console like the PS1 which did nothing but play games.  Thats not going to happen.  Sony would be shooting themselves in the foot if that was it.  Just because "Kaz" said first its about games, is just verbage to get you to hate MS and anyone with an IQ or 3 would know and see that.  The PS4 is going to do a hell of a lot more than just play games, otherwise Im not even getting it.  Im so used to my 360 and PS3 doing tons of things, why would I want to go back now?  Good post bro.

crazy-roman
crazy-roman

@skiggy29 @JMcN76 Isn't there a couple of states it can take. I read they can turn it off, in which it only waits to hear "XBOX ON" to switch the console on. Which itself is stupid, as this is not off, as it still waits a command. However they also mentioned you can fully turn it off, must be some sort of settings. In either case, they should of just let you be able to unplug it whenever. But they didn't, so we can only play with what we got.

PancakesRock15
PancakesRock15

@106473 @JMcN76 Yeah, not exactly true. IIRC the camera must be on and connected at all times for the console to function. The internet thing is half true: you need to connect to the internet at least once every 24 hours.

LE5LO
LE5LO

@MagneticFusion Thanks. I'll be boycotting Xbox one and any publishers that use a preowned fee on PS4, until they remove all these draconian features. @SplincirXbox Ones forced connection to the internet once a day is a terrible idea for everyone (except Microsoft). Not being able to use a product you've paid for, that by all means should work offline should be enough to anyone pretty mad. Not sure how you're missing that point though?

crazy-roman
crazy-roman

@Splincir @LE5LO I think the issue is, a lot of people are generalising the information. I know a lot of people who don't have internet and just play games offline, or don't have wireless and can't connect the xbox to their hub/router. I also know from experience, when moving that it takes a while to get internet set up which means no gaming until it's on. I mean in most cases yeah should be fine, for me anyway, but the others less fortunate are going to be penalised for no reason at all. 

Even worse, if you go to another persons house and use your account, that daily check up becomes hourly. Yeah the registering/installing can take place on your own console but like Splincir said you can then access it via the cloud on any console. 

The problem comes if you wish to lend a friend the game, as it can be done only once. So at the moment, if a mate asks if he can borrow a game I may play in a weeks time, it's going to have to be a no, otherwise he will have it and can't physically give it back which sucks.

skiggy29
skiggy29

@digits52 @mwamba1  

Yeah thats definitely your opinion.  Your the first person I have ever say u like the dual shock better...  Sticks are too close together. Nah. Xbox controller all the way

mwamba1
mwamba1

@digits52 @mwamba1 I found the PS controller a bit too small and I play a lot of FPS so I preferred the trigger shape of xbox pad. also the positioning of the analogue sticks. No big deal though but thats probably what I'll miss the most. I have noticed though the new shape of PS4 controller (RT and LT)is more trigger-like in shape which is nice. 

crazy-roman
crazy-roman

@Splincir @JMcN76 Turns out, yes, this is the license you mentioned, 10 family members, now it says family members, I expect they will use something similar to the gold family accounts, as how else are they going to know that these 10 people are family and not friends? Interesting.

dejawuu
dejawuu

@skiggy29 yes, even if they were going to go the route of m$ and make an all-in- one shitbox, they've then since heard what the community has been saying about the Xbone an changed their game plan, something m$ doesnt seem to be willing to do.

Splincir
Splincir

@dejawuu @sneakthief81  Except none of that was confirmed by either company yet :/

Complete speculation based off a premature announcement event.

There is no DRM for used games. there is no fee.

you know what, why do I bother.

Buy what ever you want.

 You can believe sony just like pre PS3 specs that changed one week before release.

Both companies will continue to change their info right up to and after the systems are released. 

Half the crap people are complaining about baffles me to begin with.