Jailed Arma devs denied bail - Report

Bohemia Interactive developers Ivan Buchta and Martin Pezlar also have appeal tossed; remain in Greek jail after 70 days.

Jailed Arma developers Ivan Buchta and Martin Pezlar have been in a Greek jail for 70 days now, and they will not be released anytime soon. Eurogamer has translated a Rozhlas report, which states Buchta and Pezlar have been denied bail. Additionally, the duo's appeal over their espionage charges has been tossed out and their holding place has reportedly left much to be desired.

"They're in a cell with over 25 people; they sleep on the ground," Ivan Buchta's father Miloslav Buchta told the site.

"They have food twice a day. Our boys no longer tell us on the phone that it's alright, that they're handling it," one of their mothers' added. "After the court's decision we only hear from them something that no parent ever wants to hear: Mom, dad, please save us."

Buchta and Pezlar face up to 20 years in prison if convicted.

A representative with Arma studio Bohemia Interactive told GameSpot earlier this week that due to ongoing political strife in Greece, Buchta and Pezlar are no closer to release.

Buchta and Pezlar were arrested on the Greek island of Lemnos in September for spying on a military compound. According to Greek reports , the pair were in possession of videos and photos of military compounds in Lemnos at the time of their arrest. The Greek island is the main location for Bohemia Interactive's upcoming shooter Arma III, with the two reportedly claiming that they were collecting reference material for the game.

Since their arrest, Bohemia Interactive has insisted that Buchta and Pezlar were on holiday, and did not enter any military areas or shoot any footage of military objects for use in Arma III. A support site for the pair has been established by the community.

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steffenbk1
steffenbk1

lets all right angry letters and call them fgs and noobs untill they release them. The power of internet raging never fails

JG_overseer13
JG_overseer13

 @FreedomPrime If you plan on taking pictures of military compounds, you will be arrested no matter the country.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

this time flattening that town in game is personal :)

FreedomPrime
FreedomPrime

This is ridiculous. I guess Il never take a trip to greece with my family, might go to prison for taking pictures of me and my family.

burn6
burn6

Talking about passion, tsk but it makes sense! what more can you get from getting references from an actual military ground to be used as design assets for a game like Arma. I wish them the best of luck with their legal case and kudos for their efforts for stepping beyond their boundaries to get references for the game. Be strong Ivan & Martin.

Spudtaco
Spudtaco

Where is Rambo when you need him......

popeyfolger
popeyfolger

well it seems to me the company should have gotten clearance for this kind of thing and if they couldn't then they should have left it alone i don't know the exact situation so it's hard to know who's side to support.

PumpkinBoogie
PumpkinBoogie

Damn....sucks to be them. But that goes to show how "no joke" Greece's legal system is. This is truly the worst possible scenario they could've gotten themselves into. And considering notorious rep Greece's legal system has, especially towards foreigners, these turn of events don't even surprise me.

ggregd
ggregd

Habeas Corpus is a basic right in any civilized legal system.  This is arbiitrary action on the part of the Greek government.  I also find it odd that people are saying the law imposes a 20 year jail time penalty for this particular action and there is no way around it.  Are you saying courts have no discretion to take mitigating circumstances into account in indictment and sentencing?  I detect a strong sense of defensiveness and misplaced pride in past achievements.

AmnesiaHaze
AmnesiaHaze

maybe they got themselfes arrested on purpose to continue getting intel for the game , expect realistic prison levels in arma3

Travis_Odell
Travis_Odell

If the USA and them boys roll in, it's over. Do not fuck with us!

 

CYB3Rzen
CYB3Rzen

@leeveeu Ah an other racist comment by a nobody

leeveeu
leeveeu

Ah Greece. Matched in laziness by Spain only.

CYB3Rzen
CYB3Rzen

I served in Greek islands & I can tell you that the "No Photos Allowed" signs start to appear a Km radius to any military facility. The devs knew what they were doing and the risks of getting arrested. Hoever I totaly blame Arma for not backing them up, cause I am not baying the vacation story even for a min. Sadly it seems their game is much more important than their employees. I am sure if Arma had properly asked for permission they would have been taken to some non classified locations to get some decent material, it might have taken them a few months till the military have processed their request yes but their devs wouldnt have to face trial over it. I think the court would release them eventually but deny them future entrance to the country.

 

lextexrex
lextexrex

When you have a family and a kid that age, WHY would you do something that reckless?  You are at a point in life where other people depend on you.  I don't have kids (only in my early-mid twenties) but I could imagine how terrible it would be to miss 20 years of my kid's life.  That's like not seeing my kid til he was my age!!!

kartelas
kartelas

Ah the power of the press...How easy it is to form a public opinion!Just put 2 pictures of them in happy moments and throw in a couple of twisted facts and the operation is a success.

kartelas
kartelas

I hope they rot in jail for 20 years.Do not underestimate the laws in the country that basically invented laws.

hartattk
hartattk

Everyone has got this wrong, they secretly want to be there. It's extended super secret undercover investigation which will hopefully end with Bohemia learning how to do interiors for once.

FarmFreshDX
FarmFreshDX

Is anyone really going to have a problem if they are released with all the offending material confiscated? Being kept in a jail for this is ludicrous. Greece has enough problems as it is, why would they want this press?

NoelXYeul
NoelXYeul

Wow, it's impossible to imagine what these developers and their families must be going through. My heart really goes out to them. But the thing is, what they were doing is not a game. I know that people love playing first person shooters and all, but when it comes to war, it is no game. Thousands of people are dying each day in this world due to military conflicts, wives are losing husbands, children are growing up missing a parent. The greatest games based on wars aren't even based on real wars, Halo, Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions. It's really a shame what developers have to go through to make money simply because it's what popular at the moment.

philMcCrevis
philMcCrevis

seriously though - this was incredibly stupid behavior and they should have at least had a sense thy could be in jeopardy.  i really hope they are released soon with some sort of parol or whatever or even moved to a more accomodating detention.  this is the kind of shit that gives you nightmares man!

philMcCrevis
philMcCrevis

this is absolutely aweful.  my heart goes out to these two and their families.  It is an unfortunate and foolish thing they did.  Even if the Greek gvmt knows they are innocent, their hands are tied.  they release them, next thing you know spies will be working for game developers as a cover.  They have to discourage this angle even if it costs the lives of a couple fools.  ugh awful

joevan14
joevan14

You just have to realise that this incident has nothing to do with Greece and greek people.Its about the law here.I believe the devs are in fault too.From there its the fault of the authorities that they remain in jail and not getting to court.Please stop the hate speech, it gets you nowhere. 

cryingdevil63
cryingdevil63

The guy on the right reminds me of Mike Matei

wiidominance
wiidominance

People, seriously, civil up down there. We need to assume good faith in those developers, and it's most likely that they were simply capturing footage for the game, this is the kind of trouble those people go to to come up with the games you appreciate. You'd want to show more support ! This is an overreaction from the greek part more than anything else !

Gamer_4_Fun
Gamer_4_Fun

Greece...this is incredibly shameful and outrageous!

jchristenberry
jchristenberry

Shameful or not, it just goes to show that the prisoners in our country get pampered by comparison.

maxp84
maxp84

maybe next they'll be working on a prison break type game...

ravager1989
ravager1989

2 game dev who are on "holiday" gets caught in Greece...working on a game base on a Greek island..and having "alleged" evidence of Greece military pictures in their possession.....Bohemia Interactive must be bulls******g when they insisted that the two of them are on holiday...till the 2 dev are proven innocent....all i gotta say is they got themselves in some really deep s***.......and for those who say that it is not wrong to take photos or videos of military bases..prove it.....walk up to a military base and start taking those pictures and videos and post the links here....

Duke_51
Duke_51

Jesus. This is atrocious what's being done to these people. Go after the real crooks you stupid morons. It's disgusting to see a wolf in sheep's clothing walk free when two innocent guys get hauled in for something stupid like this.

sonicare
sonicare

You'd hope that the authorities would be able to investigate this and realize the motivations of these 2 were most likely not treacherous.  They probably werent the brightest guys for doing what they did, but I dont think they should be thrown in jail for years.

Architeuthis
Architeuthis

Regardless of whether they broke the law or not, the conditions they are being subjected to are very atrocious. It's really too, too sad.

 

On another note, anyone who calls the country of Greece "Greek" is a fool and cannot honestly expect their opinions to be taken seriously. I mean, come on, if you don't even know the proper name of the country, how can you expect anyone to think you know what you're talking about?

NINEINCH-Tool
NINEINCH-Tool

DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MACOOCH< I KNOW IT DOESNT CONCERN XBOX NEWS BUT FOR FUCKS SAKE GO AND LEND A HAND WITH YOUR JOURNALISTIC PROSE

Disturbed_88
Disturbed_88

I feel shame for the country I live in, because there are people here (mostly "politicians") that stole billions and forced millions of people to go bankrupt and homeless, and these people are walking free enjoying their corrupt money, while others are trapped in a prison cell for this kind of thing.

 

But i guess, the country that founded democracy will also be the first one to witness it's shortcomings...

2bitSmOkEy
2bitSmOkEy

I feel sad for these 2 but at the same time, who in their right mind would do this without asking for permission first?

Ex-Ware
Ex-Ware

Look guys I m Greek and I know this is wrong cause the guys didn't mean any harm. But the truth is if you do the same thing in America they are going to shoot on sight so at least going in jail is better, plus you should I agree that "spying" a military base and taking pictures without permission is pretty stupid. I wish the best of luck to this guys so we would get our Arma III game! :P

BestJinjo
BestJinjo

Bohemia has confirmed that Greek authorities have accused the two men of espionage, alleging that they possessed materials that could put the country’s national security at risk. According to Greek law, a case like this could take up to 18 months to go to court. 18 months in jail before trial.....Greek laws are ridiculous. 

BestJinjo
BestJinjo

On May 22, 2012, the Czech president publicly stated that Greece would be better off economically if it exited the eurozone. Sounds like the Greeks are just using 2 Czechs as scapegoats to the wider issue of Czech Republic wanting Greece out of the EU. 

BestJinjo
BestJinjo

There is more to the story here. First of all, the conditions in which these 2 are living are atrocious/inhumane. They sleep on the floor in a cell with 25+ people and they even have to buy toiletries on their own. In the cell there is a window without a glass, which creates a permanent cold wind from sea at night. No warm clothes have been provided for the detainees. These type of conditions say a lot about human rights in Greece in general if they are treating citizens of a foreign country in this way. It's not as if they committed a terrorist act or murdered someone. I am not defending their actions if they indeed broke the law but until the trial, they should still be treated like normal human beings, not animals. 

BloodyAura
BloodyAura

They were probably told NOT to photograph certain places;but did so anyway,in some countries this is a serious offense. It's not the politicians fault,that'd be the law enforcment -the Greek goverment has bigger issues right now. No doubt these two guy's will get there day in court,not like they're prisoner's of war,no need to insult a culture or get dramatic about it! 

Chromakid
Chromakid

The following post is completely out of topic, read at your own risk:

 

We are the Greeks.

People envy us.

People hate us.

We know why.

We don't give a shit.

 

We've met them before.

They use Greek words to define their way of life.

They use Greek words to teach to their kids their languages.

They believe in Renaissance, Newton and Einstein.

They gave a Greek name to our common currency and now they want us out.

They fail to understand that you cannot eat money.

They want us to stop playing video games.

They post hate comments.

They are barbarians.

 

Greetings from Greece to everybody and thanks to your kind politicians for keeping us still in E.U although you, the people, seem to strongly disagree on that. They seem to regard your opinion a lot. I wonder why. Next time you pay taxes remember that your leaders give your money to the bad, lazy Greeks and we spend them on ouzo and souvlaki and copies of God of War. Maybe they secretly love us. Who knows...

 

June-GS
June-GS

This is just wrong. Not to mention inhumane. It doesn't matter if you're Greek or whereever the hell you come from, you KNOW this is wrong.

BravoOneActual
BravoOneActual

I know the region is on the verge of World War 3 and tensions must be high.  I also know that this isn't a priority to the Greek government or the individuals involved.  I assume, though, that due process, in whatever form, is a hallmark for any civilized country and this is especially so when the country represents a force that at one point shaped the world as we know it.  

 

Greece stands among the empires that brought culture and enlightenment to the modern age and it this doesn't speak well for a nation so distinguished.

 

It's a small issue to governments, but it's a huge issue to people.  It's especially huge to the family and friends of the incarcerated.  They weren't smuggling drugs.  They weren't spreading dissent.  They were naive and somewhat foolish, but their intentions were transparent.

 

It's becoming news, now, and I am sure it's going beyond gaming and into the mainstream.  Give them their day in court, expel them, ban them from entry ever gain and move on.  I think Greece's point has been made.

exedeath
exedeath

They were probably denied permission to shoot those pics, and decided to do it anyway. They get what they deserve.

GamingAnubis
GamingAnubis

Sorry to hear about that, but greece is not the politicians, or their stupid laws. I'm offended to see some racist comments in here for us greeks.That is the governments fault, and believe me, nobody wants that kind of government we already have. Politicians are to blame in this one, not the entire greece, including us people.

stefan_931
stefan_931

I think that they have learned their lesson right now.... I said at first that I could understand the greek military arresting them but this has gone on long enough and I am chocked that nothing gets done! Both countries are part of the union and I don't care how messed up greece is right now, get them out!

strayfies
strayfies

That is terrible, I hope they can get this cleared up as hastily as possible.  Yes this is something we adults should know isn't a great idea, but artists are compelled for their craft.  I sincerely doubt anyone who knows their work, thinks that they were attempting to subvert an authority.

 

And good for their parents, taking this to public attention.  As a crowd we gamers aren't always the best appeal, but I'm glad these families aren't just sitting around devastated.