Infinity Ward talks Call of Duty: Ghosts 720p Xbox One resolution

"The differences are probably more subtle than some people would notice, but some people will notice," says Infinity Ward.

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Last week, Infinity Ward confirmed that Call of Duty: Ghosts runs at a native resolution of 1080p on PlayStation 4, but the Xbox One version of the next-gen launch title renders at 720p and then upscales to 1080p. The news came as a shock to many, as players tend to link the Call of Duty series more closely to the Xbox 360.

With Call of Duty: Ghosts getting its DLC content first on Xbox One, but the PlayStation 4 version boasting a higher native resolution, GameSpot asked Infinity Ward executive producer Mark Rubin to say which version customers should pick if they're on the fence.

"A lot of the people haven't seen the game," said Rubin, "either on one system or the other, or next to each other, even. They both look great. The Xbox One is 720p, but it upscales to 1080p. So it is a 1080p output on your TV. The differences are probably more subtle than some people would notice, but some people will notice. It's such a hard thing to talk about."

Going with the crowd

The biggest thing to consider is where your friends are going, Rubin says. "As far as what to tell people to do… people buy a console for different reasons. A lot of the times it's just which one your friends are buying. If you're on one console and they're on another, then you're out of luck as far as playing together. So figure out where you want to be from a community standpoint. Where your community of friends are going to be."

Rubin said it was possible that future Call of Duty titles on Xbox One could run at a native 1080p, but that the game needs to hit a constant 60fps. Even so, he pointed out that it's what the consoles offer in terms of features and services that people should consider before investing in next-gen.

"Both consoles offer a different approach to stuff they do outside of the game, so take that into account if you're trying to make a decision. Look at exclusives--are there exclusive titles on one that you want that are not on the other?"

"This is exactly what we've been thinking about for the entire development cycle," he added. "This is a difficult time for gamers, this is a hard thing to have to deal with. Consoles are expensive. It would be nice if you could throw down and buy two of each, and have an unlimited amount of money for doing that, but we know that most people don't. It's not the case."

Rubin added that the team at Infinity Ward put "a lot of effort" into making sure that the transition between current and next-gen was easy for players, pointing to the game offering $10 current to next-gen upgrades and making sure that a player's stats carry across hardware generations.\

Hard Choices

Juggling the next-gen transition means Call of Duty: Ghosts is the "hardest game we've ever made by far," Rubin added. "Two new consoles at the same time. Last time, when current gen launched, it was one per year: 360 for Call of Duty 2; PS3 for Call of Duty 3."

"When we started, most expectations were that we wouldn't [develop for] both generations," he said. But the team at Infinity Ward collectively decided that they wanted to oversee development of both the current and next-gen versions of the game. "Which is great, because we were able to really make the best game on both platforms. The problem is that it was way more work than we realized. We ended up having to not only just grow significantly within the studio, but bring in a lot of help from studios like Neversoft and Raven to be able to do all of that stuff we wanted to do."

"We didn't want to sacrifice quality on any of them."

Rubin also emphasized that it's the social element of Call of Duty that makes it popular with many players; some people go to extreme lengths to communicate through the game."We had a guy at an event leading up to the launch of Modern Warfare 3," he said, "and he was telling me how the company he worked for used to have their meetings on Call of Duty. On the weekend they would do, they called it an update meeting or something, and they would do it in Call of Duty. They would party up and have their meeting in the game."

With the game being released tomorrow, Rubin also said that he was confident that reviews for the game will be good. "From talking to a lot of the reviewers that have gone to the events, I'm feeling very positive. Everyone seemed to come away pleasantly surprised," said Rubin. "I am very hopeful, I think this is going to be a good year."

Discussion

2026 comments
obsequies
obsequies

isn't upscaling a fancy word for stretching?

OrphanSlapper
OrphanSlapper

For those of you who think that the developers have to get their head around the new hardware (which is apparently the overall reason why xbox one is only running at 720p), that is not the case in the slightest! It's a Jaguar x86! Developers already know around it, it's not alien! It's just simply because the console can't handle native 1080p (which is concerning since it is, you know, call of duty...).

MaximusMatrix
MaximusMatrix

1080p to 720p is not a small difference.

Who plays the PC knows that the difference is huge.

RabbiSchmuley
RabbiSchmuley

MS is weak.....now that being said, MS is VAIN!!!! 

which is good news for you XBots because I genuinely believe the next few generations of Xbone may replace some of the internals, and perhaps try to to out-do the performance of the ps4.....of course, nothing keeps Sony from doing the same, other than the fact that Sony are secure in their role for this industry, they trust their devs and have respect for the continuity of a creative market. This I cannot say for MS, as I've been to the darkside and I've partaken in their pyramid scheme business-centric mentality....they would sell you to the chinese if they had rightful ownership. 

macleod2024
macleod2024

Hey all. Before it get's noticed - yes this is my first post on this forum.

You might want to take a look at this. It's interesting to have an interview conducted by a non-gaming website that doesn't want to risk losing revenue - http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/05/call-of-duty-ghosts-mark-rubin-interview-there-are-things-that-were-not-allowed-to-talk-about-4173810/

I'd just like to say I have loved the Xbox brand of machines and still do. However, this is an extremely worrying state of affairs. It's obvious that there is going to be a huge difference. t's enough to make me doubt my decision and maybe jumping ship.

A lot of fellow xboxers say that graphics don't matter much and gameplay/online experience also matter. This is true. What matters is that a game, running on an old quake engine essentially, runs fine on it's counterpart. IW cant say if they would have been able to achieve the resolution despite all the effort put in with MS engineers.  We are being charged the same (if you discount the fact a Kinect is being forced on us) as the PS4, and that is hard to swallow when it obviously isn't powerful enough. Can we really see this machine coping with the next 7 years or so?

The above article shows that MS are leaning on journalists and publishers to hide the fact there is a problem with the hardware. This said, for better or worse I think I'm still sticking with the XB1, though I'm close to changing my mind, but MS need to stop trying to hide a fact that they've got it wrong this time. 

hellgast0
hellgast0

Infinity Ward are idiots. See Respawn or Treyarch get 1080p without a fuss

ffspyda
ffspyda

lately, I'm finding all the news on next gen quite worrying, and im hoping its only because developers are now getting their heads around the consoles and that 2 to 3 years from now we would have games that validate the purchase for acquiring a next gen system

moesuir
moesuir

LMAO, gamespot's video review looks like VOMIT MIXED WITH DOG SH..T. And the Blurstation 4 fans were braging about their "higher" resolution.

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

For those that think the Xbox One is better i have shiny polished up shit to sell you.. 

WantYouBad
WantYouBad

According to the CoD review comments, everyone hates the game anyway, so none of this matters. Xbox One - 1 PS4 - Not 1

IndremaLover
IndremaLover

Great graphics, solid gameplay and raw computing performance will only take you so far - I buy my console for the advertising potential.  Xbox One baby!

tushwacker
tushwacker

fanboy war... what is it good for?...

KGWhat
KGWhat

Day one PS3 Graphics > 360 Graphics. Did it matter in the end? No 360 still did way better than the PS4. Why? Because there is more to gaming than just top notch graphics. Que PS4 Fanboys "but why would I pay for a X1 when it's not as powerful as the PS4 lololol." Well if graphics are the end all to gaming for you and you buy either console you are a clearly a moron since the PC is obviously the most graphically superior and always will be. Other things very important to gaming should be taken into consideration as well. Such as how XBLive is CLEARLY superior to PSN. Have fun playing your barely noticeably better PS4 COD on that garbage of a network, hopefully you wont get all your CC info stolen again. Just not having to deal with that network and PS4's sub par user interface is more than enough to make me forget about the fact that if i put my face 6 inches from the TV I can see a difference in the X1 and PS4's graphics. A healthy and speedy online ecosystem I would argue is more important than graphics EVER will be for console gaming. What difference does it make if you game looks a tad bit better if it doesn't run as well online or there aren't as many players to compete against?

AzureBonds76
AzureBonds76

REALITY CHECK

How is the Xbone going to render games in 4k if one of the biggest studios in the world cannot manage to render a game at 1080 ?

Just pointing out the fact that PS4 people probably aren't going to be missing out much by not have a 4k console. Perhaps the Xbone will be able to play Blue Rays at 4k? That would be cool, especially if the 4k blue ray players are really expensive when they become more common to the public.

Mind you I'm not a fanboy of either console. I'm typing this on a 360 and I have a PS4 pre-ordered. I just honestly wonder if Infinity Ward, who have some great programmers by all means on their payroll, can't get Ghosts to run at 1080, who is going to be able to get the Xbone to run at 4k ?

meatz666
meatz666

Guys, from a PC/PS3 gamer, truth to be told.

An upscaled 720p to 1080p and an AA 1080p doesn't have so much difference at all, really. In games like The Elder Scrolls, I do feel that you need more robust details in objects and overall architecture and landscape. But for a competitive FPS, it doesn't matter so much, really.

Please, as a fellow gamer and true to the gamer community. Cancel your Xbone/PS4 pre-orders, wait these platforms have their games and exclusives, and then decide. I swear to you that if you buy nextgen next month, you'll spend at least 6 months booting up your old console to play it's games, SP or MP.

Don't go into this consumist hype. Wait both consoles to settle down, have their exclusives. Then make a choice. Making a choice about resolution is really, really dumb.

In 2001, I had to choose between a 32mb generic graphic card, and a Voodoo 16mb. Everybody told me to go with the 32. I used for almost a month, and it sucked. I switched for the Voodoo (which had optimized graphics for all the iD games), and I was astonished.

Forget console wars, this only help corporations. Use your money to travel, to buy Dark Souls 2, whatever, but don't buy nextgen right now.

Please.

solokingxrobert
solokingxrobert

@OrphanSlapper  the Xbox One can run games at 1080p native, the reason various games were not able to do it was because they received the dev kits too late and it was too hard to optimize it for 1080p in such a short time. The Call of Duty producers even made the statement saying this exact same thing and that future games will all be 1080p native. The fact really is that both consoles are actually powerful enough to run 4k native.

blackace
blackace

@MaximusMatrix 1080P native vs 1080P upscaled isn't huge difference. That's what ALL the games on PS4 and XB1 are. 

mjswooosh
mjswooosh

@macleod2024 errrr...the "problem" with the Xbox One hardware is that it is underpowered. The base GPU it uses is roughly equivalent to a HD7770 or - best case scenario - a HD7790. This is simply not powerful enough to handle 1080P/60fps in next gen 3D engines. Certainly, the problems with COD Ghosts seem to be equal parts a problem with the devs releasing a rushed product. But, there's no doubt that if the Xbox One is already experiencing these types of issues with a last-gen Quake 3 engine it is going to have a tough time impressing gamers when rendering a next gen engine. The PS4 isn't exactly powerful either when compared to mid-high end PC GPUs, but it does have more hardware power and greater long term potential by quite a bit as it is based on a 7850 (or 7870 best case scenario). Games benchmarked on the 7770 vs 7850 show huge framerate differences for a reason: shaders and bandwidth.

KenderDragon
KenderDragon

@macleod2024 Thank you for that link. Hope some people won't lose their job on this! I mean, the unspeakable crime that is honesty those days. lol

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

@hellgast0 Umm absolute wishful thinking my friend.. You might want to get your money ready to buy some of microsofts shiny polished up shit... I dont think people understand what 720p Native means.. When you understand that then you can start seeing through the fog that microsoft has put over your eyes.. ESRAM is the devil.... Avoid it... enough said... if your supporting microsoft right now your just literally pissing in the water.. 

andrew_ribbons
andrew_ribbons

@hellgast0 I lost faith in Infinity Ward long ago, basically around the same time the actual developers left and were replaced by Activision typing monkeys.

bdiddytampa
bdiddytampa

@andrew_ribbons it's got nothing to do with the development team dude, it has EVERYTHING to do with Microsoft's shitty console though :-/

RabbiSchmuley
RabbiSchmuley

@moesuir  that is funny....but, if you're buying an xbone, it's even funnier!!!!!!!!!

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WantYouBad
WantYouBad

@tushwacker Giving a reason to live  and purpose to people who are socially awkward, ugly shut ins, and pariahs in general.

mjswooosh
mjswooosh

@KGWhat Apples and oranges. Last gen PS3/360 comparisons have no relevance to next gen. The PS3 used a wildly different, crazy hard to program for architecture which made it nearly impossible for most developers to get the most out of the cell. In contrast, the PS4 uses the same base Wintel architecture as the Xbox One, yet it has a lot more stream processors/shaders and a ton more memory bandwidth. The differences between the PS3/360 were theoretical and never realized. The differences between the PS4/One are much more real world...and a lot easier to predict.

moesuir
moesuir

@KGWhat Yeah PS3 "hardware" is more powerful than 360. But most cross platforms looked better on 360. Sonyfans love to ignore "software" potential.

gamemaven
gamemaven

@AzureBonds76 Oh gee they must of tapped into the consoles full power because they're the best game developer in the world. You're the most gullible cocksucker there is.

tushwacker
tushwacker

@AzureBonds76 I think there are 2 major things to remember: 1) Infinity Ward had to do most of the development for the XboxOne before they actually had their hands on the hardware (so they likely played it safe to ensure the fps stayed above 60) and 2) they mentioned in this article how they were really pressed for resources in order to get the game out on 4 different consoles plus PC. I'm expecting Treyarch's game next year to both look and run much better on the One than Ghosts will, because they will have their hands on the new consoles for the entire development cycle. But only time will tell.

smurfa1
smurfa1

@AzureBonds76 Forza 5 is running 1080p so it's not like it's impossible. We'll just have to wait and see future titles. 

PumpkinBoogie
PumpkinBoogie

@meatz666 Very well said, my friend. To be honest, I have to admit I actually have been honestly considering canceling my pre-order for my PS4, lately. 

Certainly not b/c I don't want it--but couple of things made me give pause 1) I've actually had something, financially, pop up that will more than likely cut into my plan of getting that pre-order by the time it launches and 2) I'm slowly realizing that I KNOW damn well there's still a copious amount PS3 games I need/want to play--both backlogged and future purchases. It'd be crazy for me to get it right now and STILL have to wait practically until the new year when the releases will really start to pick up steam.

I got my Vita and PS3 (heck even a lil' piece of a laptop for some moderate PC gaming, too), so I should be okay....and y'know what I'm okay with admitting that I'm cool w/ waiting a bit longer now! lol

'Cuz on the realz, my PS3 backlog is honestly crazy, bananas long right now.....and I'd feel so not right leaving such business unfinished. XD

Medievaldes
Medievaldes

@meatz666 Damn, finally a post that makes sense. Totally agree with you pal. But I also understand that many people that has the $$$ posibilities no matter what, they're gonna get a next-gen console, or even both.

MNIZ
MNIZ

@meatz666 I have never read a post smarter than yours :) 

AzureBonds76
AzureBonds76

@meatz666 I allready pulled the trigger my friend, but I have Dark Souls 2 pre-ordered.

I think most people aren't going to abandon their old consoles, especially if games like DS 2 keep coming out.

To me $399 if a good bargain even if the price comes down within a year or so. Not sure if it will however.

blackace
blackace

@solokingxrobert@OrphanSlapper CoD producer had already said they had the game running at 1080P native on the XB1. They didn't have enough time to optimize the game so it could run at 60fps. That and the fact M$ screwed all their devs by providing updated SDK, DirectX, drivers, etc who were still using older graphics engines for their games. The good news is all of this will be fixed for all the sequels. After the E3 it will be rare to see a 720P or 900P native game on the XB1. 

gamemaven
gamemaven

@mjswooosh @macleod2024 Using one game as an example is first of all incredibly short sighted. It doesn't mean other games are not going to be 1080p/60fps, you make it sound like they tapped into the consoles full potential and they couldn't do any more. You're full of shit. It was apparently easier to do for the PS4, but this is obviously not the best the system can do. Stop making a big deal out of nothing, if more games favor the machine YOU like, then go buy the thing. But I hate little shits like you that go around telling people what the right machine to buy is when the examples you use are completely irrelevant and subjective. You're so hung up on power and quality? Then go buy a PC, because that's all the new consoles are, stop worrying about what everyone is going to buy or if you're on the "winning" side or not. You're pathetic.

blackace
blackace

@Glasscut32@hellgast0You have no clue what you're talking about. Games aren't going to stay 720P native for long. Also, all the games are upscaled to 1080p, so nothing of them show on screw as 720P native.

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

@andrew_ribbons @hellgast0 lol you think its activision fault the game is in 720p.. Lets rewind to 2008.. remember when most PS3 games were in 720p.. People blamed Sony for making a console too hard to program for there is your answer enjoy.. you didnt even have to google it..... Dont worry you dont have to thank me.. its all ESRAMs fault.. Or should we say BSRAM... Almost forgot the PS3 was also 1080p Native as well.. and the Xbox 360 was like 546p upscaled everything looks shiny and with great contrast especially john madden helmets but the draw distance was piss poor.. Go look at the draw distance in GTA V PS3 right now compared Xbox 360... Then you will know about the Microsoft inferior design... 

gamemaven
gamemaven

@bdiddytampa @andrew_ribbons Because they don't know how to take advantage of the hardware doesn't make it shitty. If every developer is having a problem then you can talk shit. Until then keep you mouth shut.

gamemaven
gamemaven

@mjswooosh @KGWhat You're another jackass that acts like he's got all the answers. You don't know if the ps4 is going to do better and no its not predictable. God you people don't run out. Go fucking die asshole.

RabbiSchmuley
RabbiSchmuley

@moesuir @KGWhat The exclusives for ps3 were much more well-crafted in terms of graphics, there was a clear distinction between the multi-plats and the dedicated exclusives. Furthermore, most if not all western game devs used the x360 as the primary build and transferred the boilerplate coding to the ps3, it wasn't the case of simultaneous development on both systems(there was time and money to be saved in doing this, the lazy shits). So the comparison is pretty shoddy as it's unfair to compare a port with it's original form. 

AzureBonds76
AzureBonds76

@gamemaven I didn't say that they were the best game developer in the world. What I said is if one of the largest game studios can't get a game to run in 1080 on the Xbone, how are games on the Xbone going to render in 4k.

You need to actually read before jumping to conclusions.

PumpkinBoogie
PumpkinBoogie

@smurfa1 @AzureBonds76 Yeah, that might be the case but you have to look at it like this: that's MS' own in-house work right there....1st party. One would think they SHOULDN'T fuck up their own exclusive b/c they know the machine inside-and-out. That'd be tantamount to Sony somehow magically botching InFamous: Second Son or Nintendo fucking up a new Zelda....it's more than (HIGHLY) likely that's not gonna happen, lol.

Now how 3rd parties continue to handle things....well, like you said that remains to be seen. Although, I must say considering how much MS boasts on a pedestal the COD franchise and 'well' it does on their platform, it is rather concerning they didn't seem to do a better job of giving the guys/gals at IW a far better helping hand in crafting the best experience possible. I mean, after all it's not like they're the only ones coming out w/ a next gen console (or having the same game released on that said 'other' next gen console)......

meatz666
meatz666

@PumpkinBoogie My PS3 backlog is ridiculous too. Since I already went several times in the buying hype, I have games that are still wrapped. Sony made Hitman and Dmc free before I had a chance to play them.

Your reasons are exactly the same why I canceled the limited Zelda 3DS pre-order. I saw it and thought "I must have it!"... Then, after two days, I went there and cancelled. Thanks Amazon for not punishing customers who try to cancel their pre-orders (Gamestop, yes, you there, I'm looking at you)

meatz666
meatz666

@MNIZ @meatz666 Thx my fellow gamer. I'm tired of the console wars. Don't buy it and wait. People needs to learn to be patient, and not fall to this blind consumerism. Let's wait a year and see which platform has the coolest games, and which one has more friends playing it. Simples. ;)

meatz666
meatz666

@AzureBonds76 @meatz666 The thing is not about the money, per say. Since I have PC, I'll not buy both platforms. So I can wait 6 months, 1 year, to see which platform has the best games and exclusives, and, which platform most of my mates bought.

It's not about price, you know? But I understand your point.

macleod2024
macleod2024

@RabbiSchmuley @gamemaven @mjswooosh Gamemaven - firstly there is no need for insults just because people don't have the same opinion. If you don't like other peoples opinion, don't read forums.


You have also missed the main point of the post - it was to highlight the difference of an article on a site that may not worry about early access to reviews etc. As for the rest of you post:



"Using one game as an example is first of all incredibly short sighted." I agree. However, the reason it's important at this stage is because it's counterpart is running it at a higher resolution, barring the cross platform frame rate drops.

 "It doesn't mean other games are not going to be 1080p/60fps, you make it sound like they tapped into the consoles full potential and they couldn't do any more." "It was apparently easier to do for the PS4, but this is obviously not the best the system can do." Again true. However, in other interviews Mick Rubin has made it clear that throughout development, Microsoft were on site. He is also unsure if they would have ever been to achieve this resolution. As for other games, Killer Instinct, which is hardly going to be taxing, is 720. Yes, Forza is 1080 but it doesn't particularly tax the CPU (lack of weather, day/night). Whatever progress is made, you have to think that the ps4 will be creeping ahead. 


"Stop making a big deal out of nothing, if more games favour the machine YOU like, then go buy the thing. But I hate little shits like you that go around telling people what the right machine to buy is when the examples you use are completely irrelevant and subjective." At no point did I tell anyone to buy either machine. I also stated that for better or worse, I may well be sticking with XB1, as I do prefer the games coming out on it, but that was simply my opinion and to highlight that I was not simply trolling. COD is a relevant example at this point due to the age of and the familiarity of the engine and familiarity with the Jaguar processors. I hardly see a potential lack of performance as irrelevant. If you mean that I may have based my opinion on one article, again you are wrong. I've lost track of the amount of Mark Rubin interviews I've read on this over the past week. They have all been very "safe". As I previously stated, this one is by someone who does not need to be. It highlights that there is a bigger difference than is being let on.


"You're so hung up on power and quality? Then go buy a PC, because that's all the new consoles are, stop worrying about what everyone is going to buy or if you're on the "winning" side or not."  Again back to the point of my post - it'snot about being on the winning side. It's just something that is a worry when you are thinking about investing in a machine that may or may not last the next few years. The price of these machines may not get you a gaming pc of the same spec. In this case, for those of us that no longer live with our parents, it's a budget way of keeping up with gaming.


"Full of shit" "you're pathetic", I hardly see how posting an opinion on a forum, that does not simply say "one console is rubbish because of this one article I've seen",  is full of shit. As I also was not on the bandwagon of "I've cancelled my pre-order", and also still referred to myself as an xbox fan, I hardly see how that could be seen as "pathetic".

RabbiSchmuley
RabbiSchmuley

@gamemaven @mjswooosh @macleod2024  hey gamemaven. You use too much profane language in addressing people, it would be extremely difficult to take you seriously....and furthermore the likely response to you is: eat shit, you nutty. weak-hinged hobby-horse.


The differences are there, and feigning ignorance only works for the truly ignorant. If you're true to yourself and come up ignorant, please don't get offended when people (myself) tell you to "go spelunk the depths of your anal-cavity you scum-encrusted phallus"

bdiddytampa
bdiddytampa

@gamemaven That's the thing... the other devs ARE having problems.  BF4 = 720p  Titanfall = 720p Ghosts = 720p Watchdogs = 720p  The best advertised resolution on a XB1 so far was 900p...  notice the trend? or should I still keep my mouth shut? Quit drinking the Kool-Aid dude, it makes you come off like an ass

meatz666
meatz666

@AzureBonds76 @meatz666 Open a Kickstarter! :D

But do you have current gen? Because there'll be great titles on the current gen for the next 6 months, at least. That's enough time to see which console suits your needs, I believe.

AzureBonds76
AzureBonds76

@meatz666 If I had a gaming rig, I would do the same. I haven't had the money to buy a nice computer for a while.

I wish. After seeing what Skyrim and Dark Souls look modded on the PC there is no question.

Loan me $5 ? :-)