id: Rage franchise not dead

Cofounder Tim Willits says company is "not doing anything immediately" in the franchise, but may some day.

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id Software's post-apocalyptic first-person shooter franchise Rage is not dead, cofounder Tom Willits told Joystiq during QuakeCon in Dallas, Texas this weekend.

"I'm proud of what we did, I'm proud of the universe that we built. The franchise is not dead," Willits said. "We're not doing anything immediately with it, but when I designed the universe, I designed it in such a way that it would be easy to step back into. I'm still proud that we did something that was different--it wasn't like the games that we've done in the past."

Rage was released in October 2011 to a generally positive crticial reception. The game was the fourth-best selling title of the month in the United States, though its lifetime sales are not known.

The game was developed on id Software's proprietary id Tech 5 engine. Innovations made to the engine during Rage's development have advanced the technology, Willits said.

"We really tried to do one engine that worked for everything," Willits said. "It really helps establish a robust tech that, as John [Carmack] said last night, we're adding stuff into it based on the new consoles, and it's allowed people to make different games because the technology is flexible and robust and works on everything."

For more on Rage, check out GameSpot's review.

Discussion

144 comments
ChiefFreeman
ChiefFreeman

Tim Willits is a lying piece of shit.   This game is EXACTLY like all your other games.    It's a linear shooter,  with no exploration,   a lame story and dumb as rocks AI.    Please tell me how Rage differs from Doom 3, Mr. Willits?   I'm going to enjoy hearing about the eventual shutdown of id games,   since Doom 4 is in development hell,   and likely never going to be released.   id,  y

ou failed.   Nice knowing ya.


swantn5
swantn5

good i liked it layed a good foundation for a squeal the only thing that sucked was the ending 

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

Yes It Is, Tim.

And It Should Stay That Way.


Two Words.  Sewer Levels.

Worst. Pre-Order. Bullshit. EVER.

keyb0red
keyb0red

Just give us DOOM FRIGGIN 4 dammit.

and we'll forgive you for meh class games like Rage

Hurvl
Hurvl

I heard AMD/ATI users had a hard time initially making it run, perhaps thats why the PC version on Metacritic got a 4,8 user score. Never has a game had a more ironically fitting name. 

The Gamespot users seemed to like it, though, but I don't know if I'll like it. It seems good, but not good enough and I don't know if I would tolerate the flaws it has. With my backlog, buying a game that doesn't seem solid altogether is hard to justify. 

Also, I didn't know something could be called a franchise when there's only one product made. Calling it a franchise usually means that it's not a one-time thing, but by id's statements they don't intend to make it a one-time thing.

Litchie
Litchie

Cool. Maybe they'll give us that other half of the game that didn't make it. That's what it felt like when I finished Rage. "That's it?". Awesome guns, awesome graphics and physics, but it was too short. When I thought "ooh, this game is awesome so far, I wonder what happens next" the game was over.

scowny97
scowny97

Awesome game, just needed a better conclusion.

Skakruk
Skakruk

Rage just was a big disappointment to me. It's short,brutally unfinished (I mean, no final boss from id ,like, W T F !!!! M A N !!!!!!!!!!)  story that is SOOOOO undeveloped,action that is SOOOOO unvaried - all those so's and many others made me thought that rage was a ripoff, it was a betrayal by id of it's fans. When I finished the game I though I was ,I don't know, like they spat on my face. Such a frustration over a game was totally new for me. And so I don't believe id anymore - what they did to us in RAGE, all those unfulfilled promises they made in ads and videos - all of these hardened my despair over current generation of games - not interesting clones of others,unfinished,undeveloped,not realized.

tightwad34
tightwad34

You at least better work harder on the last few hours of the next Rage. Trying to get through to the end was like choking down the last bit of a gross meal that was good for the first few bites but you were dedicated to finishing it anyway.

Deano
Deano

It was pretty amazing how little game we got for a game that was in development for 7 years, it was painfully obvious they just had to cut the story about half way. If id software hadn't of made this game it would have been getting alot more negative reviews. This game felt more like a tech demo for their idtech5 rather than a game 

tionmedon
tionmedon

where is my DOOM4?...........

Poodlejumper
Poodlejumper

$60 for 6 hours.  

That's your damn problem right there.

That and the fact that they hyped it like it was the friggin return of Doom or something.  Seriously that was some hella over the top marketing for a decent game that was FAR too short and with little substance.

Unholy123
Unholy123

Well aside the fact the game had a terrible launch with alot of peoples videocards not being able to run the damn thing with I.D's all highly touted new engine until a hotfix came out the game itself is sorta this grand vision of WHAT could have been a really cool game...

What you get is like a 4-6 hour shooter thats shooting is great fun and the weapons and throwing weapons interesting and sorta fun driving combat  with just a tacked on story talking about things but you never really see them you more or less here chatter then go to point a to being the shootout till you loop back on point a.

The thing is there's just a ton of the canvas that you can clearly SEE is left blank and as it ended your like... w8 what... are we not going to fill in that massive canvas that you've spent god knows how long and much building...

ShinjiEx
ShinjiEx

The graphics engine they built is doing well... sarcasm!

They wasted a decade on the engine and Rage "tech demo" only to fail!

I've yet to see any studios clamoring to use the new Id engine

CLOCKWORKIAN
CLOCKWORKIAN

Too... Busy... Playing "Brutal Doom". So... Fun... So... Bloody... Reminds me... of... My childhood.

hadlee73
hadlee73

"Cofounder Tim Willits says company is "not doing anything immediately" in the franchise, but may some day." ... So pretty much like all their other franchises :P

Vambran
Vambran

Yeah okay fine. But would rather play Doom 4 first.

onixevil
onixevil

First Doom .2nd Wolfenstein then think about RAGE .

onixevil
onixevil

Am I the only one who own the PC and the Console version of RAGE ?

HenryDChurch
HenryDChurch

Nice atmosphere, good characters, great combat. It had many flaws, but that only makes me more excited for a new Rage. They can fix all that was wrong and add so much more to make the franchise successful. Same with Brink. I'd love to see more of these worlds and the improved gameplay.

robbiejones
robbiejones

GREAT news!!! I was kinda bummed that they weren't developing for it. But now there's hope for a new rage

NTM23
NTM23

That's good. I thought Rage was great, but what it really lacked was emphasis on certain things, like putting more details into the atmosphere that make it feel more like it has a history, a focus on good storytelling (that ending was not good), and a little bit more variety than go from point A to B on a vehicle or on foot to shoot some guys. 

Other than that, I thought everything was superb, but being more immersed into the world would be nice. I would just love a sequel that improves on what needs to be proved on, 'cause if it did, it would quite possibly be one of my very favorite shooters of all time, I thought that then, and I still think that now.

Oh, one more thing is that it also lacked personality for its characters, sure they wear some unique things and have distinct ways of talking, but in the end it also kind of felt like a lost opportunity to make them more memorable through personality instead of them saying "OK, you have to do this, go do it."

Or in case of the creepy clown guy "Ah, good, now shoot these guys". Paraphrasing, I don't remember exactly what they say, but it's always something like that.

DESTROYRS_F8
DESTROYRS_F8

oh god.  so where's the DLCs they promised?!?

Takeno456
Takeno456

I really enjoyed Rage. A new game in that universe would be pretty cool.

operationode
operationode

Rage a franchise?
please let it die in peace 

krolm
krolm

A lot of hate for rage in these comments, not sure why though, no one can seem to list any reasons why it was bad. Didnt even mind the ending either. Had better graphics, shooting and gameplay than most current fps. Oh well, haters will hate i guess.

turretx7
turretx7

I loooooved rage, it was really cool in my opinion! :)

spindie
spindie

@Deano I thought it was gorgeous, solid first person shooting mechanic, good explosions, great driving.. But yeah the story felt like it was an afterthought

roman4545
roman4545

@tionmedongosh you again !

why dont you GET over it ? 

want DOOM so bad to play older games !

pedrote
pedrote

@tionmedon It's being re-done. Bethesda didn't like what Id was doing so they started the project from scratch again.

roman4545
roman4545

nobody ask you to pay $60... haha

Bionic_
Bionic_

@ShinjiEx They're not licensing it. Bethesda owns the engine and it's for inhouse titles only.

Hurvl
Hurvl

@hadlee73 So pretty much like what most companies do. Whenever someone asks if a franchise is dead, they mostly just say "we might go back to it some day". They're leaving the door open, but not bothering to open it very soon.

roman4545
roman4545

@onixeviloh puzzle comment time:

think Rage first then 2nd Wolfenstein about Doom

ccgod
ccgod

@onixevil pretty sure you were the only one dumb enough to buy it twice

NTM23
NTM23

@DESTROYRS_F8 It's been out for seven months now, if I think I know what you're talking about. Are you referring to The Scorchers DLC?

thecatsix
thecatsix

@krolm The quests were really boring and generic, and there seemed no reason for the main character to be helping all these different people.

I remember one quest: Clear out sewer. After completeing the quest. Here's a new one: Clear out the sewer again. ???

Every faction only had one voice. Every single enemy of that type sounded exactly the same. Felt like fighting clones.

Saving by hand all the time, pretty old mechanics.

And of course the most totally boring ending.

mr_tootsie
mr_tootsie

@krolm I didn't hate the game but it defiantly had it's flaws. Here's a short list off the top of my head. (1) Horribly notorious texture popping on PC. (2) Beautiful world, that you couldn't really explore (linear game play) (3) Repetitive car combat / driving which was also the multi-player.

roman4545
roman4545

@NTM23 he must lived under a damn rock... say maybe hibernation ?

Poodlejumper
Poodlejumper

@roman4545 What makes you think that I paid $60 for it?  

You seem to imply that I bought it for $60.