Ian Livingstone: Nintendo must bring its games to other platforms - Report

Eidos life president says Nintendo must expand to support non-Nintendo devices; failure to do so risks being missed by an entire generation of gamers.

Nintendo needs to bring its software to non-Nintendo platforms if it wants to be seen by gamers, Eidos life president Ian Livingstone said during a Bristol Games Hub presentation, according to a report on PocketGamer.

Ian Livingstone believes it's essential for Nintendo to embrace competitor hardware.

"Nintendo should have their IP on every platform," said Livingstone. He believes that the Japanese developer must consider publishing its games on non-Nintendo devices, such as mobile phones, even if doing so comes at the cost of its ability to sell its own hardware.

Livingstone suggested that failure to make the transition to other platforms will result in missed opportunities to get key Nintendo franchises in front of gamers who don't own the company's handhelds and home consoles.

"Otherwise, a whole generation of young people will miss out on their games," he said.

In 2011, the Pokemon Company announced that it would be bringing its official Pokemon application to Android and Apple phones. But while many hoped that it was the first of many of Nintendo's key mascots to make the jump to mobile devices, those hopes were dashed when Nintendo confirmed that the company would remain focused on building for its own platforms, saying that Nintendo's strategy "hasn't changed and won't change."

In a previous interview with Japanese publication Nikkei, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said making a move to support rival devices would drastically change the fundamentals of the way the business operates.

"If we did this, Nintendo would cease to be Nintendo. Having a hardware development team in-house is a major strength. It's the duty of management to make use of those strengths," Iwata said.

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lost_prophet1
lost_prophet1

They should put Pokemon on Vita, because then I would totally buy it, and it would be amazing. Will I ever buy a DS just for Pokemon? No. Did my brother? Yes.

thijs-x
thijs-x

Nintendo's games are fine-tuned for Nintendo consoles, and would probably not work as well on exogenous consoles. In contrast, it appears that 3rd party developers don't want to invest into making games accustomed to the Wii U (or Wii for that matter), and make more profit by just making the standard stuff for standard consoles. Safer, cheaper, and more profitable. Just business. I think that Wii U needs to be more accessible to 3rd party programmers, and have the Wii U pro controller allow dominance when 3rd party development is concerned. Same should have held true for Wii with the classic/gamecube controller.

cynical30
cynical30

You know I often come to this site and note the general combativeness of folks here against systems, companies, etc. for doing things and making decisions that they don't agree with.  The most interesting one is the general Nintendo bashing.  People have been writing them off for years, and even I have been frustrated with some of their moves as a fan.  However, what a good portion of you fail to realize, and specifically the "Nintendo is for kids and kids want ___ (COD remakes, etc.), Nintendo does well based on serving their demographics.  Specifically people like me.  I'm grown up, played Nintendo as a kid, and make enough money to not only buy all of their systems along with my various Playstation iterations, but also all of their Virtual Console IP which is 100% pure profit for them at this point.  I argue that Nintendo is very much NOT for kids anymore.  They have canonized their place with grown ups who make enough money to keep their lights on and rent paid.  Selling their IP would dilute their market share with people who will continue to buy their products vs. asking mom and dad to get it for them for Christmas.

clockworkengine
clockworkengine

Nintendo ceased to be Nintendo when they stopped making playing cards. What's wrong with changing up your approach? Not that I agree, but if Nintendo went multiplatform I would still buy their games.


DWalker131
DWalker131

nintendo must bring games to other platforms ? let me ask you 2 perfecrly legit questions

1, what games on the Wii U would make someone want to buy a Wii U ?

and

2, if those games weren't exclusive to the Wii U, why would anyone want to buy a Wii U

any Nintendo fan (like me) would have every single incarnation mario (except for the ones on a console thats starts with the letter P and ends with CD-i lol), zelda & metroid game in existance and that WAS my reason to get the original NES, SNES, N64 and Wii, (still saving for a Wii U) be a heck of less reasons to buy Nintendo if those games weren't exclusives, 

i think the Nintendo has a humble, quiet achiever vibe to it, the war is always focused on the xbox 360 and ps3, which had better graphics, more pixels, more exclussives etc, while the Wii was like the weakest out of the 3 consoles (it has almost no voice acting and it didn't even have HD graphics !!) yet it has plenty of fan base, but no haters yet its just chilling in the background and serving its loyal fans, i've never bumped into a Nintendo fan that didn't like any of the zelda, mario and metroid games 

xbox fans hate ps3 fans, ps3 fans hate xbox fans, theres no direct hate to Nintendo, i believe is due to them being humble and keeping to themselves

giving any of these games away (zelda, mario, metroid) is pretty much putting every nail on the Nintendo coffin, now i'm saying Nintendo has absolutely nothing going for it, but these 3 games is probably the most likely reason why people picked Nintendo and sticking with it, giving these titles away would leave the rest of the Nintendo franchise fighting for their lives literally ! 

If i was Nintendo, i wouldn't bother with porting games, waste of time, waste of money and it doesn't translate well in other consoles, i have a copy of Tales of Graces F for my PS3 and for all the HD upgrades, i just don't appreciate it as much as people who played the original

but thats just my opinion


sonyfreak456
sonyfreak456

The day I see a pokemon or any Nintendo game on the PS Vita, will be the day Obama wins the 2016 campaign.

jd7904
jd7904

Is is just me, or does it seem like EA, Square Enix, and other big publishers are running a smear campaign to try to kill Nintendo off so they can force their DRM agenda on other systems? Nah that could never happen...... Right??

jecomans
jecomans

Give me a freakin' open-world, HD/3D everything good nice colours texture and shiz, Pokemon RPG on PlayStation already!

Mojira7
Mojira7

Although what he says in this news piece isn't too interesting to me, this man is a legend in my opinion, but I am a bit of an older geek. I used to enjoy the RPG books he made way back in the day, then found out he co-founded Games Workshop. Amazing career in my opinion. His wikipedia has all the information.

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

lol this guy is anti sheep lol. sounds like hes lurking in the sw forums

Sorciere_basic
Sorciere_basic

I won't buy Nintendo games on Wii U and I sure as hell won't buy them on Xbone

koospetoors
koospetoors

Listen to the man and make Bayonetta 2 multi-platform Nintendo! C'mon you know you want to...

please...

*puppy eyes*

ashyblood
ashyblood

Nintendo looks like it's for kids. Dudes between 18 and 40 may cover the biggest chunk in the gamer demographic, and when we look at Nintendo we see something for toddlers. Their consoles, games, product designs and everything scream "THIS IS FOR CHILDREN". So no, most guys don't go for Nintendo. It's something you get for your girlfriend or nephew. If they want to compete for real they should think about revamping their product designs and broadening the people they market to, and stop making all their stuff look like Barney and Elmo. Kids get tired of gaming pretty fast. Most hardcore gamers are adult males and adult males aren't really into Barney and Elmo and giant walking mushrooms.

Trickymaster
Trickymaster

They should definitely release their core games on PS4 and their party games on Xbox One while keeping the mobile division.

Bellum_Sacrum
Bellum_Sacrum

Last time I checked Eidos wasn't too hot of a company.

MartinYTNguyen
MartinYTNguyen

Well, the Wii sold more copies than the xbox 360 and the PS3 did in this generations, so if the same thing goes for the Wii U, I don't see the point, why the majority of the gamers will miss-out Nintendo's games. And exclusives games is always a good thing :)

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

"If we did this, Nintendo would cease to be Nintendo. Having a hardware development team in-house is a major strength. It's the duty of management to make use of those strengths," Iwata said. 

In other words: "A lot of people would need to be fired -- those people being colleagues and friends. We don't have the balls to do that!"

leandrro
leandrro

"even if doing so comes at the cost of its ability to sell its own hardware." do they have this ability still??

Takeno456
Takeno456

I think Nintendo needs to refocus on being a core gaming company. They really need to just reorganize their strategy and start competing with the core gaming community in mind. No need to go releasing their games on other platforms, they just need to shape up the platforms they already have and get a consistent plan for how they want to move forward. I think Nintendo can turn this all around. It will require some hard work and soul searching but they can do it.

Butt_Chunx
Butt_Chunx

Nintendo just needs to start putting out real consoles or risk failing and going bankrupt.

jimbo102671
jimbo102671

Here we go again on whether Nintendo should go third-party. Technically, this would make financial sense: Without the R&D costs for consoles, Nintendo could focus all of its resources on making games.

The biggest pitfall of going third-party that I can see is a possible repeat of Sega: Loyalists toward Nintendo could feel betrayed by the move and possibly respond by not buying Nintendo games on a non-Nintendo platform.

I'm not saying Nintendo should have its hand forced on this, but rather they should carefully weigh the pros and cons of this option.

Chico86_basic
Chico86_basic

The real question here is, does anybody want Nintendo to follow SEGA footsteps? I don't think so...

Injustice45
Injustice45

If Nintendo goes third party, then it won't be the same. They won't be the same company that kept on going after the Nintendo 64, the Gamecube, and the Wii. We'll lose that magic that makes Nintendo what they are. Even though I never owned a Nintendo console, I admire their passion to keep chugging along, regardless of struggling or not. If they really go third party, then it is what it is. 'Nuff said.

Mist3rDragon
Mist3rDragon

@jecomans I think it's just as likely as having a conversation with John Lennon tomorrow. 

jd7904
jd7904

@ashyblood Yes because a real man doesn't play kiddy games like Mario. They Play ULTRAREALISTICBROWNSHOOTER 23 ULTIMATE HARDCORE EDITION!! please!!

songoku0206
songoku0206

@MartinYTNguyen Yet how many core gamers actually brought the Wii?Actually there was a study saying the Wii was the least played console out of the 3. 

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@MartinYTNguyen  

Exclusive games are only good for the console manufacturers. Developers/Publishers miss out on sales the other consoles would bring. While gamers either have to fork out for a second or thrid console, or completely miss out!

Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, are the only people who benifit from this. But looking at Nintendos struggling sales, I would say it is actually hurting Nintendo, not helping.

Lord_Python1049
Lord_Python1049

@Scorpion1813 I prefer to think of it as "Our games create experiences only capable if we have complete control over the hardware technology that drives them,"

Mist3rDragon
Mist3rDragon

@Butt_Chunx Nintendo wouldn't go bankrupt even if the Wii U and the 3DS sold zero copies from now till 2019. 

WTF1555
WTF1555

@Butt_Chunx Bankrupt?! impossible! Just don´t buy! XBOX,PLAYSTATION,PC Have tons of others games much better!!.

Nintendo gonna be maybe Like Kodak!

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Chico86_basic  

I think MS are well on their way to do that with the XB1. Practically Sega Saturn all over again.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Injustice45  

Why? Because the diehard Nintendo fans have to share their beloved  games with those who don't have as much love for Nintendo. The only difference is they would make more money and it would lead to them making more games and taking bigger risks.

thijs-x
thijs-x

@jd7904 @ashyblood I like Kirby's Dream Course... but I can assure you, I'm a real man. Just ask my wife.

ashyblood
ashyblood

@jd7904 THAT'S RIGHT! That's funny considering that the character in your avatar is about as macho as characters get.

MartinYTNguyen
MartinYTNguyen

@Scorpion1813 @MartinYTNguyen 

Yes, I agree what you're saying. But because of the strongere hardware the Wii U contains and it's new hardware, let's see how the third party games will help out the game and maybe (and hopefully) help the Wii U (and Nintendo's other consoles with its' sales.I just think it would be a shame to let the Nintendo games to be played on the other consoles and stay as "Nintendo".

Mist3rDragon
Mist3rDragon

@HydePark1980 @Scorpion1813 The main issue is that if Nintendo went 3rd party, then they'd pretty much be making five games:

New Zelda
New Mario 2D
New Pokemon
New Mario 3D
New Mario Kart. 

HydePark1980
HydePark1980

@Scorpion1813 @HydePark1980 Well for the record a regular controller is available for the Wii U.  However when the majority of your library is filled with first and third person shooters maybe a "normal controller" is what you need....but I would hardly call the average traditional controller versatile and flexible.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@HydePark1980

Of course not. Like I said, I don't buy gimmicks. :D

The normal controller (like what the other consoles use), is designed to be versitle and flexible. Fundamental gameplay does not need to be adjusted in order to accomodate it unlike the Wii U gamepad.

The best use of a peripheral controller like that would be to design it around a game. Not have the game designed around the controller.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@HydePark1980

It's practically the same as what the new Wii U gamepad thing is. It even looks similar to a GB Advance.

Wby have a livingroom console if you are just going to use it like a handheld.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@HydePark1980

It is. I'm missing out on some potentially good games - all because I can't afford to buy a second console, and don't like the idea of being forced to use gimmicky controllers.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@HydePark1980

Hey, that's fine, you can like Nintendo consoles. Personally, I see them as gimmicks and nothing but a joke.

Allow me to buy a Nintendo game on another console, and use a proper controller, and I will gladly give them my money. Nintendo are not good enough to convince me to buy a second console just for a few exclusives.

HydePark1980
HydePark1980

@Scorpion1813 To say nobody cares is not true, they simply lack games right now.  As for next gen vs current gen, show me a developer that has pushed the Wii U to its limits.  The system has received nothing but sub-par ports, not having a larger user base is not excuse to give shitty work.  

I'm not ready to count Nintendo out yet, they're just to good at what they do....make great quality games and interesting systems to play them on.

WTF1555
WTF1555

@HydePark1980 @Scorpion1813 *read the text*

What?! Sega should have continued making consoles and not give up! and  become 3rd party!.

 About Nintendo i don´t bought a single nintendo product at years and they have now nothing much interesting !.

Sony and Microsoft are weird!.

Microsoft almost killed all their first party!. 

Sony have amazing products but no advertising sucks!.

And the godzilla price from PSVITA is big letdown!.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@HydePark1980

But the Wii U has already been released and nobody cared.

Which means if they are to be the game changer as far as consoles are concerned, they would have release ANOTHER console. I don't see them doing that any time soon.

The Wii U is supposed to be their attempt at NEXT-gen consoles. But it's not even able to compete with CURRENT-gen consoles.

I'm fine with them making a new console, but it will take time, and in the meantime they need to sell games to fund that console development. Currently, they can't sell games.

They are currently operating at significant losses! If they don't do something sooner rather than later, they won't be around to "change the game".

HydePark1980
HydePark1980

@Scorpion1813 @HydePark1980 No that's exactly why they should continuing making console and games, this industry is screaming for a game changer.  Given their history I'm more inclined to believe that Nintendo will be the one to provide that over the other two.  

Sony and MS tend to just give gamers what they want all the time, now while that makes sense and we as gamers drive sales and business in this industry we don't always know whats best for it. 

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@HydePark1980

And thus why Nintendo should focus on games, and maybe peripherals. Instead of both those AND consoles.

HydePark1980
HydePark1980

@Scorpion1813 @HydePark1980 No they just simply abandoned the very franchises that put them on the map. The lack of taking risks is exactly why this industry is in the bland state it is today.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@HydePark1980

Again, why?

Sega made some bad decisions with some of their games. They aren't really big risk-takers like Nintendo are, and the risks they did take flopped.