Halo suit seeks $90 million

Microsoft taken to court over two patents related to online computer communications for the Xbox and Bungie's flagship FPS.

Microsoft's Halo franchise was a leader in getting online console gaming off of the ground as well as the starting point for the Xbox 360's clearest advantage in the current-generation system wars, Xbox Live. It also happens to be the topic of the latest patent-infringement case to be brought against Microsoft, litigation that could cost the publisher $90 million in damages.

In opening statements reported on by the Bloomberg financial news service today, New York-based Paltalk Holdings told a jury that Microsoft's console and the Halo franchise infringed on two patents developed by Mpath Interactive. According to Paltalk's lawyer Max Tribble, the patents involve "technology for ways to control interactive applications over multiple computers."

Tribble reportedly went on to note that Microsoft engaged Mpath in discussions regarding the patent, finding the technology to be "very valuable." Although Microsoft's lawyer, David Pritikin, did not dispute that meetings took place, he said that the patents are related to a dial-up method of computer-to-computer communication and thus they "don't cover the way the Halo games work." Microsoft ultimately decided to work with a different company, Pritikin said.

Microsoft is also taking issue with the company's requested $90 million payout. Paltalk bought the two patents from Mpath for less than $200,000, Pritikin claimed. "The patents aren't worth much, certainly not $90 million," he told the jury.

According to Bloomberg, the trial is expected to wrap up in about two weeks.

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Ypsteven
Ypsteven

O look global recession my company is going bust lets look for any excuse to make a bit of money and look there is something similar to what i do but not identical lets go for it. End of the day all cars have four wheels but car companies dont sue eachother technology has specific ways of communicating so you must follow them designated paths to reach max performance. Also as wiirkokonuts says why so long its stupid if they had a problem they should have gone in straight away left it too late for me its petty.

Slaughtahouse
Slaughtahouse

Its microsoft, one of the largest software and hardware manufacters in the world. I dont think they'll have any problems getting rid of this case.

triplebbearchel
triplebbearchel

Thats like me sueing my mom for making pancakes for breakfast when i obviously make the better pancakes

wiirkokonuts
wiirkokonuts

So....., why exactly did they wait so long to sue? And why asking for so much? When you think about, you let them slip by infringing that patent for so long it was you basically saying "You can use it", but now their trying to jack 90 mil off of Microsoft, especially when the patents aren't worth that much. I really don't understand how these law systems work.....

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

wow... this is like how the producers of Dawn of the Dead tried to sue Capcom over Dead Rising. so stupid.

Kingnetherdrake
Kingnetherdrake

There's a very well known story jumping to mind here, it's about the call-center patent or something. Someone invents something that someone is sure to be using in the future. Wait untill it's in such a stage they either need to spend loads of money to get it fixed and then ask just a little under that but still ask a whole lot of money.

shakensparco
shakensparco

The company probably waited on purpose just so they could jack up the fine to such an amount. $90 million is like asking to give somebody the death penalty for shoplifting a candy bar. I hate that companies try to grub money they don't deserve.

tsyunami
tsyunami

why did those dumb @sses wait until abou 6 years later to sue for 90 mil....freaking leechers

killakomando
killakomando

Ima sony guy, and even I want MS to win the case, what a leech.

senorbusyman
senorbusyman

i hate it when gaming company's go to court, its so...unappreciate of them cuz what if the courts children(if they have any) play games from there corporation!!!

xatman911
xatman911

Patents KILL innovation! There should be a freaking international law saying something like: If a company patents something unique (not VAGUE garbage) then it should only retain patent if it can produce a product based on it within or up to 5 years. If it fails to produce the product then the patent is nullified and the patented technology would be license free for the benefit of everyone. This would sure eliminate unfair, legal loophole jumping and downright dirty patent hoarding ogres disguised as sarcastically innocent companies. Go TO HELL!

Darkness7089
Darkness7089

Sad, another company trying to sue a bigger one for another "get Quick rich scheme". Sony is having the same problem over different nonsense and unfortunately, they lost, which will hurt Psp/Ps3 owners worldwide. Now it's Microsoft's turn. There's no copyright violations here, they are just trying to rip Microsofts wallet. You also said right there that they bought the damn patents, that makes it legal if nothing else. I hope Microsoft doesn't give them a dime, as I'd rather that money went to the next 360 game(and trust me Microsoft is funding your games, Halo, Fable, and Gears of War are some of the best games on your console), not someone's car fund. Offer a settlement of 5 cents and say, "That's all your lies are worth to us". This is all a bogus attempt to legally steal money from Microsoft.

InTheArmsOfGod
InTheArmsOfGod

Yeah they're a little late on this. Hope they don't get a dime.

kyle756
kyle756

GunGriffin you mean genes, a "Genome" is a list of every possible gene for a species

GunGriffin
GunGriffin

Also did you know that several medical companies have Patents on your own Body Genomes? 24 to be correct and thats all thanks to Bush the shrub to allowed them to patten our vary Genetic code! Even though they did not make it at all but it accrues naturally in nature!

fmprodguy
fmprodguy

another bs lawsuit... Sure all of the game companies have been guilty of patent infringement... like the rumble technology. But notice those types of suits are settled out of court quickly and quietly. Overly broad patents are applied for and often given patents all the time. With the only goal being to grab cash when someone really makes something of worth. And then they go after the most public and biggest wallet they can find... In the online multiplayer space, that deep pocket is Halo. If they get a dime out of this, this company will then sue everyone it thinks it can get money off of. BTW, yes, in a court of law you do talk about the value of the claim in a not guilty defence. It's an issue of motive and creditability, which is very very valid to the arguement... This is common, and has nothing to do with guilt (whether it's Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo).

mankeyador
mankeyador

where have they been for 8 years? I sense a parasite.

TheJackel79
TheJackel79

It's actually Cash Rules Everything Around Me but hey we get the point!!

microwaveman
microwaveman

As the Wu Tang said... Cash Moves Everything Around Me CREAM Get The Money Dollar Dollar Bill Yall

gobbo00
gobbo00

I quote "tecnology for ways to control interactive applications over multiple computers" mmmm sound's like a server to me, think of the money they would get of WOW!

dbreeze8
dbreeze8

90 million dollar is pretty much like pocket change for microsoft :D

X-RS
X-RS

pretty sure if microsoft is found guilty theyd have to pay cuz the tech is responsible for there profit. i want microsoft to have more money ofr better games, but i cant stend corporate fLIcks!

Normaral85
Normaral85

If your not guility you don't ask to pay a smaller fine for the crime, you'd fight to not pay at all. Then follow suit with a counter suit for whatever you can get out of them for making your company look bad.

bschroth
bschroth

money grubbing butt holes they is.

blancobo
blancobo

Everyone wants a piece of the pie... INMERSION got their 100MM on force feedback for the PS controller, now Mpath wants a piece of the pie on dial up com methods... certainly odd when considering that effective online gaming takes place on broad band.

devoid27
devoid27

In this world people dont care about people. Certainly not the game creators and their producers. ALl then care is too sell and get money. The only reason they care what we think is because the want us too like their games so they can sell more and get mote money. Life is all about business. I hate that

DeathHeart95
DeathHeart95

I was expecting some parent to be suing over the language online, even though that's not Microsoft. Maybe even a Master Chief suit worth $90 million. I certainly didn't expect a legitimate lawsuit...

star77241
star77241

Dial-up. Ahahaha. Is that even used anymore?

castsythe
castsythe

it was only a matter of time until somebody tried to take out Xbox live, everybody is just soooooo damn jealous!

Templar_Bladema
Templar_Bladema

@TurambarGS: You couldn't be more right. I had been saying the same thing for years.

mr0806
mr0806

i wonder how the 90 million will set back some of the up and coming games being developed...

TurambarGS
TurambarGS

@ Yyin9564 - Yeah but it's not about gamers, this has nothing to do with them. This is business. It's one company suing another because the former thinks the latter owes them money. Just business. And when the stakes are as high as they are in this billion dollar industry, then of course they want a piece of the pie if they think they're entitled to it!

Yyin9564
Yyin9564

ahg!... everybody is out for blood and money nowadayz... does any care about us gamers anymore?

FarmFreshDX
FarmFreshDX

The dumbest thing about lawsuits is that not only are they always asking for way too much money, as proved in this case, but they're always incredibly, stupidly vague. Just like all the others, this one won't get far. If I made a patent for "a device which would display information visually," would I be able to sue a PC company? No. It's ludicrous. This lawsuit is physically painful.

spoonybard-hahs
spoonybard-hahs

Oh dear GOD not another one. And this is even more ludacris than MS getting sued over "interactive chat". The lawyer for the plaintiff said, "technology for ways to control interactive applications over multiple computers." I'm sorry, but I don't remember being able to tell my buddy's Xbox to do things while we're playing Halo in two different towns. I am really getting sick of these do-nothing patent holders.

Avenger1324
Avenger1324

Strange how it takes so many years for mpath to discover his work has been infringed - or more likely just a desperate attempt to get money out of MS

stanleyCG1_2
stanleyCG1_2

To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft took at look at their technology in the meeting and then went back to Redmond and did copy parts of it. But then again I suppose Microsoft would never infringe on any one patents and try and get away with it because they're always innocent when it comes to things like this... P.S. I'm not saying they did and i think the lawsuit is a waste of time but you would be very naive to think they are 100% innocent or would never do something like this

the_requiem
the_requiem

@chaldoboy14: your mistake is in assuming that ALL online games use the same technology while it is not so. they aer suing microsoft coz they believe Microsoft is using same technology as the one they hold patent on. and the statement by microsoft seems to suggest they are not denying that they use same technology [different company, not different technology] and are questioning the amount involved in case, not merit of it.

celebnaur
celebnaur

Anyone ever heard of the other consule games that were online? Whatever happened to phantasy star online? plus I think there was a few on ps2.

dkcamp
dkcamp

Jackophant, come on! you have to wait until the franchise makes tons of money BEFORE you sue!!! that's the correct order! why would you want to sue a poor, unheard of franchise? there's no money in THAT!

jackophant
jackophant

yea, this suit would be reasonable if it wasn't 8 years since the said infringement took place. I think this case will be ruled in favor of microsoft.

endingvision200
endingvision200

Microsoft has the deep pockets and given their aggression to hold on to the market share they do what ever is necessary even if it means infringing,they need to learn from their mistakes and be fair for once! they shouldn't complain over $90 mil.

firehawk998
firehawk998

Lets see if this the guy sued Halo when it first came out then this guys claim could have legitimate but now asking 90 million dollars for this proves that this guy needs serious money and he would do anything to get it.