Halo: Reach co-op hiccups for 4GB 360 owners

Owners of Microsoft's new entry-level system receive flash memory-related error message for multiplayer mode; Microsoft "working to resolve" issue.

In early August, Microsoft rolled out its latest hardware revision for the Xbox 360, a slimmed-down Arcade model that included 4GB of internal flash memory, built-in wireless connectivity, and five USB ports. Unfortunately, owners of the new 4GB Xbox 360 have been unable to access Halo: Reach's full suite of multiplayer features, receiving an error message when attempting to enter the just-launched game's co-op mode.

4GB owners locked out of co-op.

The error message indicates that "one or more players do not have an Xbox 360 Hard Drive," despite the presence of the 4GB drive, and says "an Xbox 360 Hard Drive is required to play co-op on Xbox Live or system link." Gaming blog Nukezilla originally highlighted the issue and also reports that adding to the machine's storage with USB flash drives doesn't fix the problem.

The frequently asked questions section of the official Xbox support site suggests this is a known issue, though offers no immediate help for 4GB Xbox 360 owners, saying only "some multiplayer aspects of Halo: Reach require an Xbox 360 certified hard drive." Owners of the 4GB Xbox 360 are not advised of limited multiplayer access, except in the game packaging's customary "some features and downloads require additional storage" disclaimer. At least the problem may only be temporary; a Microsoft representative has told GameSpot that they "are aware of the issue and are quickly working to resolve it."

The new 4GB configuration of the "slim" Xbox 360S launched in August as a replacement for the entry-level Arcade model. Like the Arcade, the 4GB model comes at the lower end of the Xbox 360 price range. However, where the Arcade had no onboard storage, only a small internal memory chip, its replacement has a flash memory drive--albeit with a modest 4GB of storage, compared to the higher-end version's 250GB of hard drive space.

On the site of Halo developer Bungie, forum users have reported similar problems with ODST and suggested the 4GB drive is recognized as internal flash memory and not the hard drive required for full online functionality.

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CanesThing26
CanesThing26

same old **** from M$ only have 2 games and the rest are garbage. they don't know how to make first party games for ****

mbranco_00
mbranco_00

MS - Put it out now and fix it later Nothing new here this can almost be predicted with their products.

Vader993
Vader993

l just bought xbox 4g for reach,i work my ass off the whole summer and this happens,

Blitzkrieg129
Blitzkrieg129

If you don't have a hard drive, go on ebay, and spend $20...

Slayerduckie
Slayerduckie

All hardware has its problems and glitches there's no denying that, but when you 're releasing a new game in your prime franchise that's literally driving the console's succes, such glitches are unacceptable. Its makes you think, in a multi-million franchise, didnt they have just 30 minutes to playtest all modes on all models?

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

@zzamaro On another message thread, you made complaints about how Microsoft's peripherals are ridiculously expensive. I find it curious that you champion the Nintendo Wii, the absolute worst at expensive peripherals. It took me a few hundred dollars to outfit my Wii. And i'm not even talking about the snazzy racquets and stuff. You suggest others are fanboys. I suggest you are the anti-fanboy. It's a curious thing.

demonkingx5
demonkingx5

i would not be surprised if this is a way to get ppl to buy there over price HDD

majere613
majere613

Frankly, the 4GB 360 is an insanely pointless device in the first place. Even 20GB feels pretty cramped these days, but 4GB of storage in this age of DLC and patches is plain daft. Still a silly bug though, but the blame is probably on MS- the first rule of storage is that any device should 'look' like a disk to the OS, so there shouldn't have been any problem.

ebonyflame
ebonyflame

It still amazes me how stupid some shoppers can be. Who would buy a 4GB 360 when you can just spend a little more to have the top model? Are people really that cheap and stupid? EVen if you don't play Reach online, you will run out of room on that thing a lot sooner than later and will then be faced with the alternative of spending even more than you would have if you would have simply bought the top model.

kavadias1981
kavadias1981

Another M$ "hiccup" ay? There is always something isn't there.

Henninger
Henninger

To be honest, this doesnt surprise me. This is M$ we're talkin bout.

benboz
benboz

Typical microsoft :)

Sirbobislost
Sirbobislost

@ monson21502 No because it isn't a perfect game the campaigns to short and the multiplayer is almost the same but the jet pack makes the game worth a 9 score on it's own and the last 0.5 is for the hologram in multiplayer nothing makes me laugh more then watching people chase that while I walk up behind them

califone
califone

I would think MS would start ironing out the kinks BEFORE their software blockbusters roll out. Why would a company learn anything over five years, though?

Pete5506
Pete5506

If its not one thing its another, always something wrong

Chief_Kuuni
Chief_Kuuni

that's too bad but seems like everyone should buy a 360 with a hard drive anyway. Don't know why they even make them without one. Kinda senseless to me

monson21502
monson21502

so.... is this the real reason halo reach didnt get a 10 gamespot?

zzamaro
zzamaro

@ I'm sorry but other gaming consoles do NOT have this kind of problems. Specially NINTENDO. Even THE NES could kick X360's ass Microsoft Xbox 360 = Epic Fail

zzamaro
zzamaro

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DeadnBuried
DeadnBuried

@bowlingotter If you think mjc's comment on inFamous is comical, look at his profile and go to the Ratings section, that'll give you a much bigger laugh, dude clearly can't tell a good game from a bad one.

Flint247
Flint247

People are getting mad at Xbox 360 problems, yet doesn't PS3 and other consoles have problems, too?

DeadnBuried
DeadnBuried

@mjc0961 lmao, okay pal, you're either a fanboy looking to score points or you just genuinely have the strangest opinions known to man. Regardless, let's see if you feel the same way when inFamous 2 drops. inFamous 1 had was a fun game but it did have its problems, but looking at inFamous 2...Daaaaamn it's gunna be a beast.

BladeTrinity114
BladeTrinity114

Why is that just because it's Halo and Xbox, everybody sits there going "Oh Xbox is rubbish, it's cheap" etc. ? There are always minor problems haunting new titles, especially ones as big as this. They'll get this sorted soon, and it'll be no problem.

Flint247
Flint247

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mrsniper83
mrsniper83

This is why i bought the Halo Reach Console

Flex1
Flex1

WOW just WOW. Microsofts biggest game this year and they crap it up to arcade owners. Amazing. I would say the lamest news I read today but activision milking money for glorified crap cutscenes wins it.

XeonForce
XeonForce

Why the hell did 5 people thumb-up mjc0961's comment about Infamous being the worst game this console generation? It's hard to believe that people would support such an ill composed and ignorant opinion.

blackace
blackace

I thought the Arcade was for gamers who don't go online much. I'm not surprised. I don't know why M$ just didn't add the 20 or even 60GB HDD to the Arcade. That would have made more sense. That was just stupid. The Arcade is good for kiddies and parents who just want to play casually and don't play much online. If you are going to be playing online, doing a lot of downloads and playing moderately or hardcore, don't even waste your time with the Arcade.

Vambran
Vambran

I feel sorry for people that have 4Gig or less Xbox's. Mines 120Gig and is near full all the time.

mike_ezm
mike_ezm

OMG,..... a friend of mine (who is owner of a xbbox 360 as well) told me, after seeing the xbox slim "it is smaller, maybe its quality will be a little bit of lower" i told him to shut up, that it wouldnot be probable... now he is going to come up to me and say "i told you..."

Master_Turismo
Master_Turismo

Well at least I have the older model. Hopefully they'll fix the problem soon because this Game rocks.

AirBizkit89
AirBizkit89

i got a 20 gig storage and it automatically has 10 gb taken away that i cant find i deleted everything but game memory so why do they even sell a 4 gb if they automatically take ten away its messed up. im gettin the playstation 4 but for now i have to continue bitting my lip as if a have any lip left to bite. 2 consoles have rrod n my games freeze i have gold membership but still get bombarded by advertisements their d pad blows from the get go all im saying is i cant think of anyone who hasent had a problem with an xbox 360. my plastation 2 would messup from time to time but all i had to do was hit it and wallah. their lucky for halo or else i and im sure a buncha other ppl would get playstation. cant wait for 4

Nobri
Nobri

@mjc0961 Clearly, you've never heard of Rouge Warrior. Or any Sonic game that's been released for the past five years...

packers91
packers91

It's not like they're ignoring it, calm down.

gamecubepad
gamecubepad

I won a 4GB Slim in a Reach midnight release contest, and although I already have a H3 360, this is a load of crap. Halo is renown for their co-op modes, so tons of people are getting ripped off because of this. This is a hard time to be a pro-360 fan. MS needs to up their game, or I'm bailing on them next gen.

bowlingotter
bowlingotter

@lobotomies4free One of those "best things" you referred to about the original xbox years ago was the amount of writeable internal storage, not necessarily the fact that the storage media was a hard drive. The 4 GB of flash memory serves the same purpose but with less moving parts, so technically, that's superior. This is a game bug.

blue-peregrine
blue-peregrine

Heh! Epic fail, Microsoft. (Going off topic: BTW, Windows 7 > Windows Vista)

lobotomies4free
lobotomies4free

this is the kind of stuff that happens when you build a console without a hard drive. Wasn't that like one of the best things about the original xbox all those years ago?

smoman5000
smoman5000

i have the 4gb 360 but i wasnt too upset since i could still do all the usual couch co-op stuff, but this is good news. what would be better news is "microsoft finally making smaller hard drives for the slim model" instead of having the 250gb hdd as the only option.

deathstream
deathstream

@zzamaro I mentioned the PS3 Slim/ Uncharted problem because it was a close comparison that I have personally encountered. The console maker published the game, but there was a compatiblity issue with a particular SKU of the console. (The difference being that Reach is a new game incompatible with a relatively new SKU and the PS3 Slim was a new SKU with compatibility problems with one of the console's premier titles.) True, the second paragraph didn't directly relate to the comments made by JKMadu619, who doesn't appear to be enamored of any particular console. I was commenting on this being lumped in with MS "hardware failures", when it appears to be a software issue that Bungie should have caught. There is nothing wrong the 4 GB 360's hardware. It is a great value for people unsure about spending the extra $100 to get a 360. The part about Sony was added to illustrate that these types of compatibility issues are not limited to MS. @JKMadu619 I completely agree that I would be angry if I went out and bought a new 360 and Reach to play the co-op campaign with friends and had to wait. It should NOT have been released as it is. Somebody at Bungie or MGS QA dropped the ball. But this is not the first time that a AAA game has had MP launch issues and it isn't just MS that it has happened to.

bradocki
bradocki

Why does ppl tend to think that if you as a consumer is not happy with a product, you are a fanboy? I bought the 360 on launch day and Gears of War is the game that i most had fun in my life, yet after my 360 RROD on me i started to research and discovered that the failure rate of the console was pretty high back then, still most of my friends if not all, had their 360's RROD as well. The point is, just because i don't agree with M$ scam of consoles that most of the times go bad not even 2 years after purchase, means that i'm saying PS3 or Wii or any other gaming device is better, i just don't like to give away money in a product that don't deliver what i expect. My PS3 is almost 4 years old now, and never gave me a problem, but if it was broken a couple years after purchase, i would be pissed at sony too and would not buy a new one the same way i didn't buy another 360. Now if you want to support any kind of company, that manufactures a bad product that's your stupid problem.

sm00thpapa
sm00thpapa

hahaha glad i got a 2nd generation 360 after my 1st gen died

bowlingotter
bowlingotter

@deathstream The only reason that I regret not getting an Xbox 360 with a hard drive (I have the 4 GB model which replaced my RROD'd system) is that a hard drive is required to make the system backwards compatible to play original Xbox games. I'm hoping they change that because I don't need 250 GB. @mjc0961 I feel very fortunate to be able to own both consoles and have access to both excellent exclusive libraries. And in that situation, it's so much easier to find the overblown fanboys with nothing objective to say. Making a statement like that about inFamous renders your opinion nearly comical, though you are entitled to an opinion that provides humor rather than argument if that's your bag.

deathstream
deathstream

@mjc0961 While you are entitled to your opinion, I disagree about inFamous. It is a fantastic exclusive for Sony. Some of Sony's exclusive are overrated, in my opinion, but inFamous would be a grand slam if not for the vaseline screen problem. Fortunately the gameplay is more than stong enough to cover for the anti-aliasing problems. What really sucks is that people who can't afford to spend $500-600 on hardware will miss out on inFamous/Uncharted/Resistance or Halo/Fable/Gears of War.

bowlingotter
bowlingotter

@XenoLair When it's a game bug disabling a flagship feature of one of the biggest releases of the year, it's news.

xshadowblazex
xshadowblazex

@mjc0961 The first sentence of the article calls it internal flash memory and repeats that it's not an HDD later on. That being said, how does something like this go through QA without being tested? This is also why I don't agree with there being so many SKUs of a console, issues like this are bound to appear.