Guild Wars dev explains game bans

ArenaNet has taken action against inappropriate character names and chat used in its PC MMORPG; explains account suspensions in detail.

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Guild Wars 2 developer ArenaNet has explained its account suspension policy following questions from players whose accounts have been suspended since the game's launch two days ago.

Guild Wars 2 developer will not accept inappropriate behaviour from players.

Posting on Reddit, ArenaNet explained that while the number of account blocks is small (less than 0.01 percent of the total player base), it felt obligated to explain its account suspension policy to those players who found themselves banned from the game, reiterating that racist names, hate speech, and other unacceptable behaviour will not be tolerated.

The developer said it had already suspended some accounts displaying offensive character names or using inappropriate chat.

"When an account is blocked for a chat offense, the account is given a three-day suspension," the developer said in the post. "When an account is blocked for an offensive name, the player is required to rename the character name and, in most cases, the account is also given a three-day suspension."

"In a few posts on Reddit and on fan forums, players have claimed they were suspended for using a harmless-sounding character name, when in fact they were suspended for a different and truly offensive character name on their account. Others claimed that they were not told why they were suspended, but the game does give a message that states the reason for the suspension. In every case we have double-checked, the action taken on the account was appropriate."

ArenaNet has invited players who feel they were unfairly suspended to post their character names or chat segment that led to their suspension under the Reddit post, saying it will reply "in graphic detail" with the reason for the block.

Prior to its launch two days ago, Guild Wars 2 had already achieved sales of more than 1 million. The game puts players into a persistent fantasy world driven by a range of dynamic events, demanding an up-front fee to play but not requiring a monthly paid subscription to continue playing.

The Guild Wars 2 naming policy can be found here.

Discussion

410 comments
mevans1971
mevans1971

whats wierd is i havent played in about a month or so, i try to log in tonight and im greeted with sorry your account has been permanently banned do to something about selling of gold or helping to sell gold. so i dont know how i did that since ive never traded or sold anyone anything and only had my toon up to lvl 20. im waiting to hear back from them regarding a ticket i submitted but im curious if i payed for the game how can they ban me from using it when i did nothing wrong. i was waiting patiently for the game to come out and all i am now is disappointed.

 

Elrax
Elrax

I go back to see the comment I made, but I can't find it. Instead what I see are a lot of people talking about Amendments, Rights, Freedom of Speech, etc. Seriously? Really? There's nothing broken here, no Amendment, no rights, not even freedom of speech. Simply, all this article was about, are people who disregard and disrespect other people without caring or thinking of the consequence then raging about why they got banned. They obviously were reported harassing other people. As for offensive character names, they were given a chance to change the name. Possibly, they didn't do that. At the same time, you are warned during character creation not to use an offensive name. Why even do so? Do you want attention that badly? Its rather ridiculous to me. People also seem to forget and solely only wish to blame ArenaNet, that these form of rules have been in games and MMOs for the longest time. But just because there's been an uproar from some people about getting banned in GW2 doesn't give anyone the right to blame Anet or the game. The only ones at fault are the ones who got banned.

KaSeRoR
KaSeRoR

As a longtime Ultima Online player, people know what they are doing when and if they get banned. Just dont act like a child and you won't get treated like one. VERY simple...

>=)

DuaneDog
DuaneDog

How can anyone defend racist or hateful names in the game? If a name is questionable... then change it. There are a million names someone can pick that does not have hints of racism or hate. And if you choose not to purchase the game and play it because you can't make racist comments or taunt homosexuals then GREAT! The game already is packed with people and 95% of them want to get along with others and make the game more enjoyable.

 

I'm tired of these little cry baby hateful racist types that think free speech extends to private companies and that their "rights" mean there are no consequences. The first ammendment essentially gives you the right to spout your racist garbage without fear of prosecution or incarceration. It doesn't mean that a company needs to allow your filth inside their community. 

 

Please join us on Guild Wars 2 if you want to make it a fun enjoyable game for everyone. If instead you want to be a troll and antagonize others then move on.

Runock
Runock

If only the Banhammer also included real life punishments :D Thanks to ANET for making a great game I enjoy and keeping the trolls in their rightful place! The bottom of a trash can.

pyroone
pyroone

I'd like to know why they suspended digital sales.  

Snaptrap
Snaptrap

Good thing NCSoft isn't doing the product management or you'd end up with a lot of gold spammers.

dmblum1799
dmblum1799

This policy makes me more likely to buy their product; as soon as it's available in my region I'm in.

 

If they let racist trolls and dumb kiddies into the game, I'd pass.

Delrothness
Delrothness

MMORPGs are indeed my favorite genre, but this is their one downside. I paid hard-earned money for their game, and these rules make it feel like I'm in elementary school. Lucky for me I have no interest in creating offensive names and running around cursing people out. Yeah I agreed to their terms, but those particular rules have always irked me. Now on the other hand, banning hackers who ruin the game is completely acceptable.

gilalizard
gilalizard

Their house, their rules.

 

Deal with it, e-thugs.

Morfessa
Morfessa

A lot of good comments. Is it too much to point out that ArenaNet is NOT doing this to "censor" anyone, nor to enforce issues of morality? They are banning people who break the agreement made between ArenaNet and the gamer in question. In this regard, it is clear that the causality comes from the offender (the person banned) because they break the rules that they agreed not to break. The players being banned are causing the breaking of the rules, and so they are, in effect, banning themselves.

Janpieterzun
Janpieterzun

Very classy of Arena Net, glad to be supporting this game.

deathknight107
deathknight107

man some people here need to get a life especially that idiot electric coffee. honestly their rules their game. Don't like it don't buy it. Wanna trash talk then do it on xbox live

jorge69696
jorge69696

 @KaSeRoR "Just dont act like a child"

">=)"

 

Go finish your homework kid.

LinkLuigi
LinkLuigi

 @percuvius2 Even if you pay for it, you still gotta agree to the terms, no matter what game you play.

Daian
Daian

 @pyroone They couldn't handle the large player base so they intentionally slowed down sales. I knows, it's weird, but it's for the benefit of stability, pretty selfless act for a game publisher if you ask me. They'll resume when they think they can handle everybody.

Delrothness
Delrothness

 @Snaptrap Luckily they aren't spamming chat, but I get mail from gold spammers multiple times a day.

PacoTaco
PacoTaco

 @dmblum1799 

 

Don't worry, the majority of racist trolls and "dumb kiddies" are sticking with wow for the time being because of the new expansion coming out in a few weeks.

hermoor
hermoor

 @Morfessa Agreed, what is the point of trolling. Even more what's the point of being proud of it? If you thinking calling someone a "f***ing newb" every other sentence makes you superior in some way you need to get a clue. Statements like that are over-used and show lack of maturity and intellect. Let people enjoy the game, if you want to go yell and bitch people out because you feel like you have the right to do so, it is saying more about you than about the people you are harassing. 

HaarleeQuinn
HaarleeQuinn

 @TohouAsura Well the thing with online communication is that there is no way to tell tone or attitude. So even if your regular vocabulary consists of vulgarities and you dont actually mean any offense, it might not be read that way.

 

And yes, people do get offended and hurt by words, thats why even though there is a myriad of insulting words in the English language, it is not deemed appropriate to use them in civil contexts. If you use them in person at work or in other genteel situations, then you will suffer the consequence of censure or ostracism. These common courtesies and rules of etiquette need enforcement mechanisms online because the social penalty aspect is lacking.

 

Sure there is always and /ignore function, but that places the burden of acting on the innocent party, and thereby normalizing offensive behaviour. This is unfair and contrary to reason.

 

I think this is a fantastic move on ArenaNet's part and childish trolls who cannot derive enjoyment without regressing to expletive profanities can piss off elsewhere. 

kljvoph
kljvoph

 @TohouAsura I smell a Troll but not a very clever one.  Nice try but seriously you could do better.  Good trolling is all about subtlety.

Janpieterzun
Janpieterzun

 @TohouAsura Human garbage like you shouldn't be playing a game with civil people. That's the point, don't buy it. Less people like you better play environment. You want to talk crap do it to someones face not hiding behind a computer.

AMCope
AMCope

 @TohouAsura If someone is stupid enough to type out profanity in General Chat then they deserve to be banned. Atleast its not like SWTOR when they were banning people who typed out profanity even in whispers to friends.

KelpsterD
KelpsterD

 @percuvius2  @DuaneDog  @LinkLuigi 

 

Im with LinkLuigi on this one.  He's obviously not talking about some name like "Cupcakes", he's referring to a racial slur and/or something that puts down another human being. That is never acceptable. Also, the game developers have a Code of Conduct that must be followed in order to take part in playing the game. Don't want to follow it? That's fine, just enjoy the ban :) 

 

You people seem to think that it's your "right" to put whatever you want as a name. It's not. you have no "right's" when playing a video game. You either follow the rules, or you get booted.  The only way you could win this is if the game developers messed up in their Agreement clause. Speaking of which, do you not remember clicking "I agree"? You idiot.

 

 

 

 

TohouAsura
TohouAsura

 @AMCope Not really. Unless constantly harrassing someone with the sole intent of ruining his game experience, that is no reason for ban.

 

What if you are doing a siege instance? Lots of players on the map, even on your own team. Somoene might not find you to their liking and report you.

 

NOW AIN'T THAT FUN!?!

jellyman68
jellyman68

@percuvius2@LinkLuigi@DuaneDog

 

"Bullshit, it's entirely your fault if you get all upset and whiny over something that is none of your business."

 

You mean like getting upset over people who don't like to see unpleasant names on a game?

LinkLuigi
LinkLuigi

 @jorge69696  @percuvius2  @DuaneDog 

 

Actually, jorge, since I did not agree to your terms, it does not matter what you think of it. I agreed to the terms of Gamespot. If you think my name offensive, feel free to report it.

 

So yes, I see where you are going, and it is incorrect in every sense of the word.

LinkLuigi
LinkLuigi

 @percuvius2  @DuaneDog You seem to think that your feelings and opinions are law. They are not. Whether or not you feel those people are "weak", those are the rules. And yes, since the game is public, it is his business what you name yourself, since he agreed to the same terms that you did. He can report your name for being off the agreed terms, whether you like it or not.

jorge69696
jorge69696

 @LinkLuigi  @percuvius2  @DuaneDog 

I got offended by your name, LinkLuigi. Change it or you will be banned permanently. You have been suspended 3 days so you can think about your actions.

 

See where this is going?

LinkLuigi
LinkLuigi

 @percuvius2  @DuaneDog But it is his business. You're not on a private game by yourself, your playing with everyone else. It's his fault for getting offended, but your fault for picking the name. If that upsets you, play something else by yourself.

KelpsterD
KelpsterD

 @percuvius2  @LinkLuigi 

 

By clicking "agree" you have, according to LAW, agreed. You will never, ever win any argument. You lost the second you clicked that icon. And I hope you are serious about not playing this game. No one wants someone like you along side them in an instance. Lol.

KelpsterD
KelpsterD

 @percuvius2  @LinkLuigi 

 

"No one reads the terms." 

 

THAT'S YOUR OWN FAULT THEN YOU MORON.

 

My God, how stupid are you? I'm reading everything you post and it's hilarious! hahahahahah you lost this one hardcore.

LinkLuigi
LinkLuigi

 @percuvius2According to the law, it means you agree.You can click the I AGREE button with your fingers crossed, but once you hit that button, that means that you agree to their rules. You can say you disagree all you want, but once you click I AGREE, you agree.

 

If you disagree, feel free to break the terms. But they have every right to kick you off the game, and all you can do is cry about it. You can't say "well, I never agreed to the terms, that means I can break them as much as I want!". You'll just get kicked off.

 

And, regardless on how you feel, the game is open to the public. It is not private. Therefore, what you name yourself does effect others, as it is open to everyone.

LinkLuigi
LinkLuigi

 @percuvius2 Then it's your fault for not reading it. When you click that link, that means you accept it. You not deciding to read it is your fault. Do you know how an agreement works? They don't have to post it on the label for you. If you don't agree to the terms, return the game.

jakybuddy
jakybuddy

 @symphony4flamez 

By the way, I like how you deleted your original comment. At least you acknowledge your ignorance, and try to hide it from the world.

jakybuddy
jakybuddy

 @symphony4flamez 

I would try communicating with you the way a civilized person does, however you have proven you cant read so that clearly will not work.

 

You didn't read half of it because you gave up trying to understand it with your poor English skills. Symphony: HER DER DER I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS HER DER.  You don't read anything because you are a complete moron living in your own world.  Sadly, this is real life, and, sadly, people as stupid as you actually do exist. You, with your fail logic, called yourself all of those things, you are just too stupid to see it (I have already tried to explain it to you, and you simply throw out more useless words that do nothing but make you look even stupider.)  All of this talk about head-bashing you bring up, one can only come to the conclusion that this is the way you type, then it would make perfect sense why everything you say is so completely idiotic.

 

BTW, quit bringing up how you are a pedophile, we have already confirmed you are a boring 40 year old man/woman with a dead end job, and a dull spouse.

symphony4flamez
symphony4flamez

 @jakybuddy Man its not even fun insulting you. I just call you a moron a pedophile, a degenerate intellectual wanna be buffoon, and you just say "I know you are but what am I". Except you type me a college essay repeating the same stuff I just called you, then you go "but you obviously called your self that even though you clearly were stating it towards me." Sadly this isn't real life where I would just knock out a raging 40 year old pedophile who pretends to be the smartest person in the room by going "I know you are but what am I". Then goes home to headbash his keyboard on gamespot forums. By the way you are welcome, for still existing in this world, and still being a complete god of buffoons amongst men. I didn't even read half the stuff you wrote, because I skimmed it and you simply copy and pasted it then headbashed it straight into the keyboard while typing it lmfao. Get fucking verbally donkey punched back to your pedophile camp.

jakybuddy
jakybuddy

 @symphony4flamez  

So lets see, so far in this conversation you have proven:

A. You are an idiot.

B. You like little children. (never anywhere did I mention anything about being a pedophile, that is something your twisted brain came up with.)

C. You cannot come up with your own arguments, so you attempt to take mine and fail miserably at it (you cant go saying I don't understand English when what you type is a blatant disgrace to the language.)

D.  With every word you type, you make yourself look even MORE like an idiot, as what you say does not defend your point what-so-ever.

E. You refer to others as 'trolls' and 'immigrants' which has to be the most pathetic insult coming from someone like you.

F. You are bipolar.

G. You are either a 12 year old (see your own words above, as you called yourself one) or you are a "middle aged woman/man with a dead end job and a dull/boring wife." 

These are all your words my friend, I am just pointing them out to you.

H. Someone used the word narcissistic, and you noticed it was the biggest word you had ever read, so continued to add it your tiny codex and start over-using it.  

I. You enjoy visiting thesaurus, dictionary, AND logic.com in your free time, however since you are too incompetent to read English you stare blankly at the screen and, after some time, revert back to your pitiful attempt to communicate with other people.

J. You dont understand the meaning of freedom of speech, nor can you effectively comprehend a paragraph.

K. You like comparing apples to chicken, and writing statements that make absolutely no sense. EG. "ranting off about whatever daddy issues and 6six year olds?"

L. You went to idiotic troll school.

M. You have manged to use the word 'fuck' in every single one of your posts which shows you are angry that your English is too pathetic to defend yourself.

N. You use the word ignorant, but you are probably too ignorant to even understand what the word ignorant means.

 

As Morgan Freeman says,

"Somebody... Shoot this Mother f***er."

symphony4flamez
symphony4flamez

 @jakybuddy  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura  Sorry champ I didn't go to idiotic troll school to understand the rage you keep typing. I can understand and type english sadly your your tiny 5 year old child brain cannot understand what I am trying to explain to you. Someone dropped you on your head way to many times, or fucked your skull way to many times and possibly still does from the idiotic comments you type, that are no proper english that I have ever read. You keep using that 6 year old comment, you a idiot, AND a pedophile? Sorry to break off that perverted image off your head but I am not 6 years old, but I can see how you would attract so many of them given you have the equal maturity, and IQ of one. Next time please respond with your hands, because when you type with your face, you sound far more idiotic then I could have ever imagined.

Janpieterzun
Janpieterzun

@symphony4flamez @Manatherin @jakybuddy @TohouAsura Where's the civility? Honestly I've stopped caring. Is all of this necessary though? I still stand by my point, Anet does is doing a bang up job.

jakybuddy
jakybuddy

 @symphony4flamez  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura 

Finally you admit that you are a complete moron who cant read/understand a single word that other people say!  While it really wasn't necesarry to confirm that, it is appreciated regardless.

 

You cant understand what you are reading because you dont understand English, which is clear by not only the way you type it, but the way you respond to it.  If you had any logic what-so-ever you would see the hypocrisy and ignorance of every word that you type, but you dont.  Read your own writing before you post it, "ranting off about whatever daddy issues and 6six year olds?"  WTF does that even MEAN?  That is such a ridiculously pathetic assembly of words, and the worst part about the whole thing is that you are not kidding!  I think you need to run through your favorite websites (logic.com, dictionary.com, thesaurus.com) because the words you speak do not come from there.  You have about as much logic as a 6-year old child my friend, and you confirmed that when you called me a 'small minded narcissistic idiot.'  

 

Read your own words you silly goose before you go ranting about things you don't even have the intelligence to say.

symphony4flamez
symphony4flamez

 @jakybuddy  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura 

What the fuck did I just read? Are you responding to me or are you responding to your bipolar half? I would conjure up a insult for you, but I am pretty sure you are no longer talking to me. Logic.com It should be your second bookmarked page next to thesaurus, and dictionary.com . By the way that last line was hilarious. At least I have logic, you small minded narcissistic idiot. Let me know when you decide to get back to this dimension and talk about our conversation, rather then ranting off about whatever daddy issues and 6six year olds? you were dreaming off about.

jakybuddy
jakybuddy

 @symphony4flamez  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura 

Lets see here, you just completely put yourself down in your own comment by calling yourself a twelve year old troll?  In addition to calling yourself a twelve year old troll, you contradicted what you said earlier and called yourself a 'middle aged man/woman with a dead end job and a dull wife.'  Are you trying to make yourself look like a complete idiot?  Don't assume I have to look up every word I type because you are too ignorant to understand what I am saying.  You clearly did not even read what I said to you before, as I talked nothing about insulting the employees of the business, rather I talked about insulting people who are inside of the business in general.

 

I think a six year old could read everything you type my friend, as you have the communication skills of a third-grader.  "and I dont use full grammar, to talk down to an immigrant," You dont use full grammar because you dont know how, and you arent talking down to anyone but yourself.  God your logic is so pathetic my friend.

symphony4flamez
symphony4flamez

 @Manatherin  @jakybuddy  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura  It's ironic to call someone narcissistic, when you have no idea what it means. Also much more ironic when a pure conceited, stuck  up prick replies to me in pure narcissistic form =). My language was solid, if you can't tell one letter off from another, then you need some serious english lessons champ, or perhaps go outside. To not be able to tell a difference in a mistake, is as being dumb as a jakybuddy. And oooh manatherin hiding behind a guy who used the thesaurus before you, scary. You are no different then the idiotic physical abusing bullies I meet in real life, consider this a mental "donkey punch" to your tiny psyche, self loathing little english major student =). But I would hate my self too if I had to hold someone's hand and hide behind them when I insult them =)

symphony4flamez
symphony4flamez

 @jakybuddy  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura  Lol. My english is just fine, but I am glad a immigrant like you is attempting to throw one at me for it. Do you know how a 12 year old rages and trolls online? He goes on xbox live or youtube comments and says he can fuck everybody up. Do you know how a middle aged man/women/it?  with a dead end job and a dull husband/wife trolls someone? They look up thesaurus.com for every other word they type. Don't attack my english because I messed up one word, and I don't use full grammar, to talk down to a immigrant. Let's be honest you have to look up everything I type to begin with in the dictionary, and yet you insult me on my english? You are not insulting employee's when you are inside a game, you are insulting the players, don't compare apples to chicken, you degenerate intellectual wanna be troll. I'll save the last minute to search up dictionary.com. Degenerate = deteriorate physically, and or mentally.

Manatherin
Manatherin

 @jakybuddy  @symphony4flamez  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura Now that's freedom of speech used properly jaky :D  Probably a  complete waste on someone who tries to troll on a forum behind a poor attempt at intelligent language.  A very narcissistic troll too, ohhh scary.  

jakybuddy
jakybuddy

 @symphony4flamez  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura 

Not only do you make any valid points in this blatant waste of time you spend trying to defend yourself, you lack the ability to convey your point across as your English is incredibly pathetic.  (then and than man, learn the difference!)

 

My comparison was with a business. If you start yelling at someone attempting to demean them inside of a business, chances are you are going to get kicked out (or in your words, 'banned'.)  You think that the employees of the business are going to stand around and do nothing while you scream out hate speech or curse words? The answer is no, they will not.

 

The point of banning people for typing unnecessary language is to make the environment you play the game in that much more pleasant.  If you come into a game, you shouldn't have to be constantly ignoring people because they decide they want to randomly start cursing in the general chat.  The same concept applies to real-life: if you walk into a business, you shouldn't have to deal with people screaming curse words because they feel like it.  Luckily, you don't have to, as people like that would be asked to leave.  So think of it this way: If you decide you want to speak unnecessary language in Guild Wars to people you have never met before, you will be booted out.  Same as a real-life business, now are you starting to understand?

 

You are defending a mute point my friend, and, perhaps the worst part about the whole thing, is that you lack the English skills to give your failing argument any ground what-so-ever. 

 

P.S.: If you cannot see any valid points in either of my two posts, then you are not even worth trying to communicate with, as your poor English has hindered your communication skills to the point that you cant read the other side of people who disagree with you.

symphony4flamez
symphony4flamez

 @NinjaMeow1991  @adilejaz  Lol You are tired of dealing with me, I never even played guild wars 2, nor do I enjoy people who rage on online games, and yet you call me ignorant? You have a lot of nerve using the ignorant card with a name like that all offense intended lmfao.  Simply give their chat a ban so they can't speak anymore or whisper to anyone for a extended period of time, its that simple. Very basic logic ninjakittennerd1991, you don't shoot someone in the face for carrying drugs when you stop them as a cop, so why would you instantly ban someone from a game that they are no actual threat to  anyone other then in game chat? It's funny because it should be me saying I am tired of dealing with people like you, 30 year old angry nerds with a hillbilly shoot em up complex.

symphony4flamez
symphony4flamez

 @jakybuddy  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura  People don't get arrested and banned from society if they curse out in real life, and online is far less demeaning, so if people are upset, ignore them its that simple, its even much more advanced then real life. Since you don't have a ignore button other then headphones or someones fist going through their jaw. I don't even know how to respond to you other then that, because you made absolutely no valid points what so ever.

NinjaMeow1991
NinjaMeow1991

 @adilejaz  @symphony4flamez Freedom of speech? Haha The whole world doesnt have freedom of speech. So ignorant. You should look up slander and defamation of character if you want to play the booo hoo freedom of speech card. If you don't like the fact you can't be a bad mouthed little jerk then don't play. I'm tired of dealing with you, so is most of the gaming community. That's what made me not like guild wars when i started playing it. All the try hard "Trolls". Now i won't have to worry about them.

DuaneDog
DuaneDog

 @adilejaz  @symphony4flamez Agree... and I will add the freedom of speech is certainly there. What it means is that you cannot be prosecuted or incarcerated for spewing racist hateful garbage. THAT is what freedom of speech means. It doesn't mean you can go into a church and start shouting out profanity and not be asked to leave. Once you refuse to leave, then you are trespessing and THAT is where you have broken the law. People forget that freedom of speech is about government powers to prosecute you for speech. It has nothing to do with a private business (or church in my example) asking you to leave because your speech is offensive and is not wanted in that establishment.

Kayweg
Kayweg

Freedom of speech does NOT mean that you can say whatever you want.

It's a common misconception.

Enundr
Enundr

 @jakybuddy  @symphony4flamez  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura yep , this is true. i believe in freedom of speech as much as the next guy , doesnt mean i wont think some of the things you say are going to sound like your actually smart , but you have the right to say them. But when your trying to use that as a shield to verbally assault people in an open channel and expect nothing to happen to you , you lose that freedom , you attempt to abuse it / exploit it or whatever you want to say it. You want to say the game sucks ? thats fine , you get your freedom of speech for that , you dont get it to start saying half of the things you seem to want to say about random people , you have that right to criticize the game , tell people why it sucks , and so forth. but what you want isnt about just a speech or making valid points , you seem to show that you just want to trash talk ppl unprovoked , and expect no form of punishment. again thats abuse of the freedom and you lose your right to it in that sense. noone really cares to hear people talking like that in open channels.

jakybuddy
jakybuddy

 @symphony4flamez  @Janpieterzun  @TohouAsura 

I like how you criticize him for calling someone 'human garbage,' and then continue to call him a '40 yr old virgin who got fucked by daddy.'   Not only do you completely destroy any point you speak there-after, but you also display a ridiculous amount of hypo-criticism.

 

It isn't about freedom of speech, its about having the common decency to respect the fact that not everyone wants to read/hear unnecessary language.  By your view, freedom of speech does not exist in many areas. You couldn't go into a public business and start yelling out curse words, or attempt to demean someone because of their race/sexuality without some consequences from the people around you.  Its not about freedom of speech, its about respecting the individuals you live/play with.

AMCope
AMCope

 @TohouAsura Raid chat isnt General Chat. If you're with a raid group that you know doesn't mind that language then I'm sure it'll be alright. I'm talking about the General Chat in towns or trade chats, etc. If you're going to sit there and say that it's okay to type that out without expecting to get smacked with the ban hammer then I'd call you a fool. Even with chat filters there are just some things you should think twice about typing in a game.