God of War III First Look

Sony gives us an early look at the acclaimed action game's PlayStation 3 debut.

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The last time we saw Kratos, the bald and bladed antihero star of the God of War series, he was aggressively working out some family issues. God of War II ended on a cliffhanger, with Kratos climbing up Mount Olympus with a whole mess of titans, eager to beat the smack out of the gods. This set high expectations for the next chapter in the series. While Sony has teased the upcoming game in trailers and in print, there really is no substitute to seeing a game in action with your own eyes, which is what we were able to do this week at a press event officially unveiling the game. Besides getting a look at another trailer, we were able to see a live demo of the game and talk with some of the team working on it. Does it live up to our gory expectations? It's getting there.

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The event kicked off with game director Stig Asmussen taking the stage and serving as emcee for the event. Asmussen has been a part of the team since the original game, serving as lead and environmental artist on GOW and GOWII, and has now been handed the hookblades for the latest adventure. The game's direction is obviously to kick gameplay, story, and technological ass on the PlayStation 3. The team is pushing to make the game big in scale, mayhem, and bloody eye-candy and rich with gameplay.

But, while talk is nice, the proof is always in the game, and Asmussen didn't waste too much time in cutting to a trailer of Kratos in motion. The surly warrior is shown racing through a forest and tearing through hordes of skeletal warriors. His brutal assault highlights one of the new moves in the game--grabbing enemies and using them as a battering ram. The assault looks effective and painful. When a cyclops joins the fray, Kratos improvises and hops onto the monster's back, using it as a not entirely willing mount. Kratos doesn't seem to be too concerned with how the cyclops feels as he forcibly guides it through mobs of foes by stabbing and hacking at it. As the trailer winds down, the landscape goes wobbly as Kratos struggles with the cyclops and leaps off of it onto a passing harpy. The camera pulls back to show that the "forest" he's been fighting on is actually the back of a titan that is climbing to Mount Olympus. The trailer doesn't leave much to the imagination when it comes to what to expect next: an epic and bloody battle.

Before diving into the demo, Asmussen hit on four elements in the game that will shape GOW III's gameplay. The first is the "titan" gameplay, which, as you'd expect, is being expanded on quite a bit thanks to the PS3 hardware's muscle. As hinted at in the trailer, some levels in the game will be set on moving titans, which means they'll likely change up depending on what the titan is doing. This seems like Shadow of the Colossus on steroids, with level orientation shifting from horizontal to vertical as you progress. When you consider that these levels are set to span acres of land, this bit of gameplay could be a mixed blessing for the angry bald demigod.

The second gameplay element, the ability to mount enemies, ought to be an interesting addition to Kratos' repertoire of moves. Besides the obvious benefits of using a cyclops to clear some space when dealing with mobs of foes, you'll be able to make use of harpies to fly to new areas or dive-bomb enemies. Unfortunately, your unwilling mounts don't have too long of a life span, because Kratos "directs" them where he needs them to go by assorted stabbings, throttlings, and painful contortions. On the plus side, it sounds like there should be plenty to choose from and each has unique attacks and abilities.

The third gameplay element is the new weapon system, which has evolved out of user feedback from the first two games. Given that most players favored Kratos' hookblades, despite some very cool alternate weapons, the team is working to ensure that the weapons you gain in GOWIII offer the same feel, albeit with different effects. The only one on display in the trailer was the cestus--the metal ringed lion gauntlets. The powerful weapon is a close-range melee weapon that changes up Kratos' moves a bit, offering faster but shorter dodges and some wicked area-of-effect attacks perfect for slamming mobs of enemies away. One interesting aspect of the new system is the ability to switch between weapons on the fly during combos, which should make for some unholy chains.

Finally, GOWIII's overall scale for battle has necessitated the addition of new grabs, attacks, and other actions designed to deal with mobs of enemies. One example was the battering ram move, which lets you use one enemy to deal with mobs. This bit of gameplay appears to have evolved out of a need to figure out a way to deal with the hordes of enemies you'll be facing, which is considerably more than what Kratos had to deal with in the last game.

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As before, the gameplay talk segued into actual gameplay as Asmussen queued up a live demo of the game. The demo was set in a massive stone keep cut into the side of Mount Olympus. Kratos is seen emerging from a cave and taking in the view of a battle between Helios and a volcanic titan that disturbed a group of harpies hanging out. Asmussen explained that the goal of the level was to find a mystic door in the keep that led to a secret path into Olympus, but there were some things to be tended to before that could happen. With an agenda set, Kratos is shown jumping the gap between the cave exit using his Icarus wings. Once he lands, enemies start to crawl out of the woodwork to murder him. The mob is soon large enough to warrant some battering ram action with an unlucky foe. While the mob regroups, Kratos is seen using his fire bow to ignite enemies, who catch their neighbors on fire, which helps clear the area. Unfortunately, a set of doors on one end of the level opens and a new mob, led by a centaur, comes out.

Asmussen pointed out that enemies will behave differently when a commander is on the battlefield, as evidenced by the aggressive behavior of the new enemies. This portion of the battle required some multitasking, as Kratos had to contend with the centaur's attacks as well as the more frequent rushes by his soldiers. While the enemies could be dealt with by using Kratos' standard attacks, as well as the battering ram technique, the centaur's spear jabs had to be countered, minigame style. With proper timing, Kratos could counterblock the spear and get in a healthy amount of stabbing. Once the centaur had taken enough damage, the familiar circle-button prompt appeared over his head, signaling the opening to initiate a finishing move. The finishers seem to work about the same. A series of button prompts will pop up, and if they're hit in time, they'll reward you with some painful and horribly bloody killing animation. In the centaur's case, it meant gutting him like a tauntaun, which resulted in a spray of guts and a whole lot of intestines.

With that particular area cleared, Kratos' attention is focused on the titan battling Helios. Besides the fact that the massive behemoth's attempt to swat the god and his chariot away were causing it to smash chunks of the keep around Kratos, the angry hero needed to look out for his massive partner in crime. A conveniently placed ballista appeared to offer the perfect opportunity to do just that. However, as Kratos begins to aim it, a part of the screen, which just appeared to be a part of the foreground environment, shifts and walks toward our hero. As the shadow moves into the foreground, the GOWIII interpretation of a chimera, a snake-lion-goat hybrid, comes into view, kicking off a new fight.

For this confrontation, Kratos shifted to the cestus and proceeded to pound the hell out of the creature. The chimera's attacks were specific to which form was taking the lead. At the start of the fight, the creature's snake aspect was causing trouble and assaulting Kratos with venom. Once it had been damaged enough, the finisher prompt came up and resulted in a painful head slicing. However, rather than end the chimera there, the finisher let Kratos murder the creature's snake half. With the snake dead, the chimera shifted to its lion attacks, shooting fire. After some careful dodging and face pounding, Kratos performed a finish and killed off the lion part of the chimera, which caused it to shift to its goat form. While you'd think goat attacks would be a lot less of a problem than lion and snake attacks, this was not the case. The goat attacks were powerful and painful-looking rushes that did a whole lot of damage to Kratos. But a little dedication, a lot of rage, and some mystic weapons allowed the Kratos to stomp the chimera and perform a wicked finisher. (We'll now be adding "having your horns ripped off and stabbed into your eyes" to our list of ways we wouldn't like to die.) Kratos returns to the ballista and wings Helios just enough to let the titan catch him and pitch him like a baseball to another part of the level.

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With Helios out of its hair, the titan continues its ascent, allowing the spooked harpies to come back and loiter. The featured creatures offer the perfect way to cross the massive gap between the area where Kratos stands and the path to where Helios fell. In order to line them up, Kratos uses the fire arrow to stir them up, then proceeds to jump from harpy to harpy to reach the other side, killing them as he's done with them. When he's finally close enough to drop, he uses a harpy to dive-bomb the mob of enemies waiting for him. The attack is very effective, since apparently harpies explode on impact with the ground. Once the new mob is dealt with, Kratos begins climbing up part of the ruins to reach the area where Helios is lying in a heap. The journey showed off a new, faster shimmy mechanic, which appeared to be handy for avoiding debris and jets of flame.

As Kratos reaches the top of the path and finds Helios, the wounded god summons some skeletal help. This time out, the mix of enemies is more than just run-of-the-mill skeleton warriors. The new enemies carry shields that block Kratos' attacks. Fortunately, a well-meaning cyclops bursts onto the scene offering Kratos something to ride, and, more importantly, offers the use of its club, which it flails as Kratos steers it. The creature's blind flailing smashes the troublesome shields held by the skeletons. Once all the shields are smashed, Kratos pops out the cyclops' eyeball and finishes off the skeletons, leaving Helios with no protection. You can pretty much guess what goes down. After a very brief exchange of words, and some prompted pressing of R1 and L1 on the Dual Shock controller, Kratos is the proud owner of a slightly battered, but magical, god head. As we noted earlier, Helios is a sun god, which means he's pretty glowy, even in death, which made his head the perfect tool for discovering the hidden door to Olympus. Asmussen noted that the head will reveal assorted secrets in the game when used in specific places that you're tipped off to by controller vibration. Kratos was shown using the head to uncover the mystic door and enter an underground cavern.

Once Kratos was inside the dark cavern, the head also served as a handy lantern, lighting Kratos' path and stunning enemies that it shined on, setting them up for brutal combos. The interesting twist was, like with the medusa head in the previous games, the head worked only when "used" and held out in front of Kratos. So, once enemies were stunned, the light would go away and darkness would fall as Kratos pummeled foes. The cavern opened up into an area that contained a launcher, which segued into a gameplay segment Asmussen dubbed "Icarus ascension." The action was basically a flight up through an increasingly complex series of gaps you have to steer toward as you hurtle up at high speed. At the end of the sequence, Kratos popped up into Olympus, dodging the fiery titan who was already there making trouble. The demo ended on a long look at Olympus, which you just know is going to get messed up bad by the time the game is over.

The demo left a good impression from a gameplay standpoint. The action was pretty much what you'd want out of a God of War game, only amped up and with a greater percentage of entrails. The camera seemed to be working out well and featured some extra motion to sell the general chaos of the action. The visuals were looking good but were obviously still a work-in-progress. The scale and speed were there for sure, but detail varied. Kratos looked impressive and had a ton of detail to him. Enemies and effects varied, with some looking impressive and others coming off a little flat. The environments were more consistent, thanks to the game's large sense of scale. We liked the smooth transition of the chimera from what looked like a background element into gameplay.

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What we saw of God of War III covered all the bases we wanted to see. There were some nice, expansive set pieces to fight on, some stabbing of mythological creatures, punching, decapitation of mythological figures, stabbing, gore, angry ranting from Kratos, and stabbing, so much stabbing. The work-in-progress game didn't have the buckets of visual polish we expect the final version to have, but even so, it made a very good first impression in motion. As with all good demos, we were left wanting more. We're curious about how the story will play out, if the weapons and upgrade system will have any significant changes, and how titan gameplay is going to work. This is, of course, a good thing, since we'll be front and center at E3 to check out the demo and whatever else Sony has going on for the game. Even at this point, though, we feel pretty good about saying fans will be happy with what's coming. Look for more on God of War III in the coming months.

Discussion

651 comments
tmthywtsn
tmthywtsn

I've played and finished the whole series, and I must say that each game was worth every hour, minute, and second. The PSP edition didn't lack in area an was well beyond anything I imagined it'd be. I'm super excited for the, well really, fourth installment on Sony's ps3 console.

Pimpin10
Pimpin10

It looks tight but yeah when is this comin out

leechengjie
leechengjie

kratos is such an angry badass... like wolverine's ancient counterpart

zangoko
zangoko

god of war3 is the amazing game bether that god of war1 and god of war2

redblade86
redblade86

awesome! but when the f**k is the release date?! anyway i'm a big god of war fan........ cant wait

Aarontan1
Aarontan1

I have watched the gameplay demo, it looks great, but i really hope, GOW 3 looks as gd as it was, because, ihave played both GOW 1 & 2 on PS2 a few times, even though i have completed the game. I do hope GOW 3 will not be the last sequel of the franchise.

pilot_riaz
pilot_riaz

I have still not played GoW2 (God of War 2 not Gears of War) Just watched the review of GoW2 looks awesome hey.

yhenry431
yhenry431

god of war 3 is the best game ever, amazing graphics and great action.

CJFreeze
CJFreeze

Holy crap, is this a "my PS3 is better than your LOL-box" discussion? Last time I checked this article talked about a first look at God of War 3. I own a 360 and I think every ps3 owner is lucky to have GOW3 come out. I played the first 2 and I really enjoyed them. I intend of getting a ps3 just for this game, L.A.I.R ( i'm sorry no matter how crappy it is I am happy just to fly around with the dragon) and ICO 3. My only quams are that I need a hi-def tv and surrond sound to make the ps3 worthwhile. GOW 3 looks great.

darkplacid
darkplacid

This argument is more interesting then watching a movie. Getting a PS3 or and 360 in my country is like a big invesment. Both have its pro and cons. But i choose the PS3 instead. Let me list down why. XBOX 360 1) Great exclusive (even thought half of them is going to be ported. BTW Ninja Gaiden 2 is getting a facelift for the PS3 version) 2) The controllers feels much more comfortable for shooter games. 3) Cheaper game (If you know what i mean *For my country*) PS3 1) Great exclusive 2) Blu-Ray (Note that i didnt put HD DVD in XBOX because everybody wants a format which can store more stuff. So Blu-Ray will be the next gen CD format. Would you wan a 250GB hardisk or a 100GB one? Its technology, live with it.) 3) Free online 4) Since resistance for the PSP came out. Also an advantage to infect ur PSP with ur PS3. 5) NO 3RROD As i said a invesment. To the game. God of War(Not to be confuse with Gears of War) Looks great so far in every aspect. No comments to go around till a demo comes out. Never judge a book by its cover thats what i know. But my prediction is this will be at least a 9.0 game since its one of the flagship game for Sony.

aratios
aratios

Ok well if kratos deosn't post we can hide the hatchet. 10679 and kratos. I am announcing it a tie. Cause both of u made your points clear and I agreed with some of the things both of you guys and frazzle said. Nothing is wrong about liking a system more than the others, but it is wrong to hate other systems because of that. And this console war is dumb cause I can see that if 10679 and kratos had met on a little different place that they might have been friends. So see how this console war just makes enemies, not allies

10679
10679

@kratos788 my profile was private long before i started talking on this thread. i can think of so many reason why i would say that and those other reason are not fanboy. "About a third of the times i posted, its on my ps3 ha ha, lets see u do that on ur 360 10679. ha ha ha" i have actually done that. last remnant was one of them. i can't remember the rest as i had this account since 2004 and i am sure wou will post again. "speaking without bashing and apparently u left. " i didn't leave. i was waiting for you to reply before i start replying.

kratos788
kratos788

@10679 how would a comment like the one u said in your review, be any other way. Saying that its too good (supposedly) for ps3 is obviously a fanboy remark. How is that "slightly" against ps3, thats more like full on bash. and im not the one who had to comment with a bunch of curse words because thats all u had left, a cowards last resort, what i meant by civilized manner, was the ability to state an opinion without bashing, u know like me and aratios and frazzle are able to. Thank u aratios for seeing the huge fanboy in him too, im sure frazzle00 does too. Also btw i already did have the last say, remember a couple days ago when it was just me, frazzle and aratios on here, speaking without bashing and apparently u left. The times i left were because i said so and aaaaw 10679 are u frazzled? and of course hes trying to keep people away, mainly me(im sure) i had no need to keep my profile private. And thanx for calling me kratos aratios, i am flattered. In any case frazzle has a point, this really is my final post on here, yeah yeah i know 10679 will say something. Seriously though third times a charm, only reason i came back last time is because someone falsely accused me AGAIN. So if u get reported again it wasn't me, so stop falsely accusing. What a surprise i had to end it again. P.S. About a third of the times i posted, its on my ps3 ha ha, lets see u do that on ur 360 10679. ha ha ha

frazzle00
frazzle00

Wow I missed quite a bit over the last 2 days :P. Hey Aratios, how are you holding up ;)? 10679 and Kratos788 you both need to relax. Gamespot has an absolutely ridiculous censorship policy and it would be a shame for either of you to lose your membership over this. You both have your preferences. Be happy with that. Perhaps this whole thing is a misunderstanding. Looking at the earlier posts 10679 made it seems that his biggest problem was initially with the game itself (GOW3) rather than with the PS3. Naturally posting that the GOW series sucks on a PS3 thread has not endeared him to many people and all the abuse he has received from everyone else has left him just a tad frazzled (sorry I couldn't resist). Anyway to cut a long story short don't waste your time posting here. Spend it playing games on your system of choice.

10679
10679

@kratos788 "i hope that this game never gets ported to another system because it is too good for ps3 , if thats not a fanboy talking idk" lol it seems that whenever a person like me says something that is slightly against the ps3 , the person called a fan boy. Have you ever considered other possible factors to why i could have said that other than fanboy. "Uknow my comments hurt u no need to deny it, im glad i inspire u" your comments made me laugh . i know that you are a type of person who wants to have the last say in this so called console war lol and as long as i keep replying to your post you keep posting until i stop which everyones knows that won't happen lol. " if u dislike gamespot so much because they dont let u talk in ur immature way" Your post also has been deleted. obviously you were talking immaturely because if you were talking in "Civilized manner" your post will still be here.

aratios
aratios

Um 10679, u set your profile to private. Was that an attempt to avoid kratos or other people? Kratos thanks for not making fun of how I talk. And to some extent we are all fanboys. Some people are a little more of fanboys srry 10679, but u kinda seem like u hate the ps3 and everyone who has one. P.S. I'm not taking sides in this matter cause I think both systems are great

kratos788
kratos788

@aratios yeah they have, there has been one the whole time, his name is 10679, i read a review he posted of the last remnant i believe it was, it said "i hope that this game never gets ported to another system because it is too good for ps3" if thats not a fanboy talking idk what is, this was a review posted before this whole argument, as i saw the date and it was january. and aratios, im sorry if there are ignorant fools out there that would make fun of how u talk, but look im not making fun of how he talks, im just stating the fact that he cannot speak in a civilized manner. This has nothing to do if you have an accent or whatever else way you may talk. Everyone SHOULD be able to do this. I dont make fun of people for that. I have no respect for the fact that someone is unable to make peace or speak in a civilized way, i like the fact that some people like u and frazzle, can state an opinion without bashing. I am not a fanboy, because a fanboy would not be willing to say good things about the other system(which i am capable of, me liking ps3 more is different). 10679 has proved that he is a fanboy, just holding 360 in such high regards and trashing ps3, without even saying one good thing, when in fact it has many. 10679 is revealing quite a bit about himself, digging a hole deeper for himself.

aratios
aratios

Has anyone else seen how this has gone away from the consoles and to this rivalry if u want to call it that. @10679: I agree that it is dumb for u to get suspended for using a word in a way that is possibly hurtful, and that I have a feeling there are more than just sonyfan boys on this thread they just haven't been saying anything recently. @kratos: Man don't hate on a dude for how they talk, I know it's a minor thing but in real life people make fun of me for how I talk. And who cares if he tracked you down. You should see one of my friends when he meats someone he doesn't like on psn he sends them hate messages. (which I find quite amusing. =)

kratos788
kratos788

oooh u got me, i posted on here again days later, i should be in jail, what a fool. i posted on here what? once a day, and on rare occasions twice. Im not the one who was on here many times a day like u. I get on here on my spare time, apparently u have tons to spare, having already admitted that, i bet if i came on here 20 times a day to comment u would reply all 20. Why did u decide to trac me then? I wouldn't track someone i disliked, u obviously secretly admire me. And eurogamer ok, so what? if u dislike gamespot so much because they dont let u talk in ur immature way, then why dont u leave? so ur bashing on a website now, what u think european sites are better, so now ur prejudice as well. there are sites here that also allow that, 1up for example, hmmm im learning alot of things from u. Uknow my comments hurt u no need to deny it, im glad i inspire u

10679
10679

"FINAL COMMENT ON THIS THREAD, i will not begin that stupid rivalry again" you said that last time. the only why started it because you were a hypocrite. "ur stupid and immature, get a life" hahahaha. i wasn't the one who said this "look man i extended my invitation and i got other things to do, i will not continue this" i guess from that statement and the three extra post after the statement you also have no life and if you really had something to do, then you wouldn't be here after you said that statement. Based on all your posts you are a hypocrite sony fanboy who defends the PS3 blindly because you can't admit that ps3 ain't a great console "kratos788 ran you down and was the bigger man who had to end it, your a sad sad person." You wish sony fanboy because you didn't end it. What really happened is that you got #%$ #@&^& by all the other sony fanboys in this thread and unfortunately you liked it so much that you left this sony fanboy thread and joined another sony fanboy thread so that you could be @%^ #%^%% again.

10679
10679

@kratos788 i guess i was right you are a hypocrite. Before i got suspended you said " "FINAL COMMENT ON THIS THREAD, i will not begin that stupid rivalry again" which is obviously a lie as you have posted another two more times. "yeah its always easier to blame someone instead of admitting your at fault, im guessing my last post hurt u, so u just came up with a bunch of meaningless insults." You wish your last post did that. The only reason why my last post contained meaningless insult is because i knew that you will reply back. i guess your last post also contained meaningless insults because your message also got deleted . "Im glad i inspire u being that u decided to track me, maybe u can learn to be a better person" hahhaaahahhaha you never inspired me. the only reason why i got suspended because i use the word stupid like you did on your last post and as you can see both of our posts have been deleted. also gamespot rules are a bit childish because what kind of game site can't allow to use the word stupid . i know that eurogamer you can foul language on the threads. who said that i reported you? i never did that.

kratos788
kratos788

10679 i can see u did report me, u got the wrong person, and u accused me of running to gamespot,ha ha, look who did

kratos788
kratos788

yeah its always easier to blame someone instead of admitting your at fault, im guessing my last post hurt u, so u just came up with a bunch of meaningless insults. The truth hurt u i get it, and no i didn't report u, so u falsely accused me AGAIN. In my opinion, justice was served, i was never suspended or anything of the sort, as u can see i am not like u. I can actually talk in a civilized manner, when i choose to that is, apparently ur incapable. Im glad i inspire u being that u decided to track me, maybe u can learn to be a better person. Funny how u talked about karma before, i guess u didn't know how it works since u used a wrong example of it. Karma is what got YOU, twice now. It doesn't get those who dont deserve it, keep it up maybe youll get kicked off gamespot next time.

10679
10679

lol i can't believe i got suspended for this reason The reason for my suspension "Derogatory use of "retard" The only word that i used that fits with that suspension is the word i$^&t. i am guessing kratos788 reported me instead of replying back.

aratios
aratios

Wow frazzle that was deep. I also agree completely that almost sums up everything

frazzle00
frazzle00

I reckon it is just a case of sour grapes. Ideally everyone would want to be able to comfortably afford all systems because every system has exclusives worth playing (yes even the Wii :P). Due to opportunity costs however, most people don't end up getting all 3 systems and hence feel the urge to justify their purchase by putting down people who've made a different decision. It's been like that for as long as I can remember, way back during the glory days of SNES vs. MegaDrive/Genesis. Ah those were the good old days :P.

aratios
aratios

I concure with your statement frazzle. But rly guys why is it such a deal who is a fanboy who isnt a fanboy and what system is better than the other system. to me fanboy is just a title that doesn't mean anything, and I've said it twice on this page and countless times other places that this "console war" is idiocy, dumb, retarded, ghey n00bish, stupid what ever else word suites my fancy and is a synonym of the word dumb.

frazzle00
frazzle00

ROFLOL. This is not just a declaration of war. This is more like a full scale assault XD.

10679
10679

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aratios
aratios

Awww I like being the mediator... Well atleast this is a small step to show that there are some people who think this "console war" is retarded, and that some people still like games cause they rock not because of what company made them

kratos788
kratos788

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frazzle00
frazzle00

The ceasefire has been broken. Will the hostilities recommence :P? Aratios and I can take on the role as mediators between the two warring factions (10679 and Kratos788 in case you haven't been following the drama) :D.

10679
10679

lol. i wasn't referring to you .

aratios
aratios

I'm not a fanbot if that counts to anything. =)

10679
10679

lol. who said i left the thread. like you said i spat on your peace offerings which means that i will keep posting and i will be glad to spit on it again if you want lol. "cant state a comment without bashing, how sad." what about you? most of your comments about ps3 always included bashing the xbox360. there are quite a few but it take awhile to find because you have posted quite a bit. at least when i bash i do some research so that bash is an educational bash not a fanboy bash like you have done. "10679 who spits on a peace offering" what about you? you have accepted the peace offerings but have you kept to the peace offerings that you created. if i remember right you said "10679, look man i extended my invitation and i got other things to do, i will not continue this, i will just wait if frazzle00 answers, and maybe reply and thats it, because it looks like it can go on forever." After you said that you have posted 3 more times . i guess you are you are fanboy that won't admit it and you are also a hypocrite. when frazzle00 said this. "All I said was anyone who defends the PS3 blindly is a fanboy idiot." i started laughing because you definetly fall into this category. you are not the only one. all the ps3 fanboy on this thread also fall into this category.

aratios
aratios

@kratos788 thanks for the nice comment. See people can get along cause most of us r gamers and that what matters. So screw the console war

kratos788
kratos788

oh and i also found it funny how some people were watching our dispute. Anyone else watching? speak up! unless ur a hating fanboy.

kratos788
kratos788

@frazzle00 oh ok , i get what u meant now, haha, u should have put a comma after blindly. sorry a misunderstanding and no i dont fall under that, but i believe that goes for all consoles. i owned all consoles as well, except for original xbox, had nothing against it, in fact i played it at my cousins house and liked it, they had the first halo, halo doesn't appeal to me alot, but then again i never played it for more than an hour or so at a friends house. i do have gears 1 and 2 though and like em. i have almost all major consoles and love em all. Man i loved the dreamcast, it had good games and graphics, it was awesome, too bad it got pummeled though, i have that too. @aratios i agree with u, i feel the same way about ps3, and yeah that is our opinion, no disrespect to u frazzle00, because ur not a idiotic fanboy, u stated ur opinion with respect without bashing and u have my respect, as well as aratios. this console war is stupid. Ilike that we can talk peacefully about it, cant say the same for 10679 who spits on a peace offering, and cant state a comment without bashing, how sad. Im guessing thats why he left the thread. Anyway my respect to frazzle00 and aratios.

aratios
aratios

How about this we all just agree this stupid "console war" is stupid, people have different tastes in what they like in a game, and the exclusives for the system are what made me buy my ps3. I love all the Final Fantasy, Metal Gears, Killzone whatever I just liked all the games the ps3 offered. I'm not saying Halo or Gears sucked in fact I want to say the opposite! Both of them are fun, but 2 games compared to 10. the choice was clear for me. So why do people still try to make one console seem better than another? All of them have their goods and bads so I say we all just ignore this stupid "console war" and play some games! P.S. I forgot to say the wii is fun,go Mario!

frazzle00
frazzle00

@kratos788 I didn't say you were a fanboy idiot. All I said was anyone who defends the PS3 blindly is a fanboy idiot. So unless you fall into that category, the comment does not refer to you. As to the quality of exclusives, well that's completely subjective. You prefer PS3 exclusives, I prefer 360 exclusives. Since it's simply a matter of personal taste arguing about it would be pointless :D. I own a Wii, a PS3 and a Xbox 360. In the previous generation I owned all 4 major consoles (I'm including the DC here :D), and the same goes for the generation before that. I love videogames plain and simple. I have no allegiance to any corporation, and I really don't understand fanboys who have sworn allegiance to entities that frankly don't give a s**t about them. I wasn't trying to argue with you before. I was simply stating that the disagreement between you and 10679 was amusing albeit pointless. Hope that clears it up :).

kratos788
kratos788

it isnt a bad console your right, but how am i an idiot, because fanboy i am not. I can understand where your coming from with the range of price with the 360, and yeah i will agree that some multiplatform games look better and released late, this stems from the fact though that it is a lot easier to program games for 360. At times this is made up for by the fact that ps3 gets exclusive content at times for late releases, for example bioshock. Backwards compatibility removal i will agree was a bad move, that i myself did not like, but i also have a ps2 so not a MAJOR issue. Yes ps3 has ignored some issues but then again why has 360 not since 4 years of its release fixed the hardware problems. Obviously they both have some issues they need to address. Ps3 issues are alot more easily fixed, with a pricedrop, and their game library increasing, but there is no denying that ps3 exclusives are alot better and more content packed example MGS4, resistance 2(since both used all 50 gb of blue ray space and showed the power of the ps3 MGS4: adding all those in game features and best graphics so far as well as the seperate game mgo, and R2: 3 diff. game modes and 60 player online battles, upcoming titles are also exploiting alot of this power.), thanks to the blu ray and the systems power. 360 does have more games and exclusives, but I feel ps3 are of higher quality, and better also ps3 has a wider variety of games that appeal to different audiences, it has hardcore games like GOW3, shooters like killzone 2, and family fun games like lbp. While 360 has mainly shooters, not saying it doesnt have the other categories, just stating it has more war games than anything. How about we leave it at the fact that BOTH systems have there ups and downs and both are good. agreed?

frazzle00
frazzle00

@Kratos788 I said: "Does that make the PS3 a bad console? NO. But anyone who defends it blindly is a fanboy idiot." So it's obvious I meant the PS3. The console has its issues: a high price tag, multiplatform titles that are not on par with their 360 counterparts (and are sometimes even released late like Orange Box!!), and the removal of backwards compatibility (a much touted feature) without the commensurate drop in price. The 360 has its issues as well, hardware reliability being the most major one, but I prefer the games library available on it and the sizable difference in price (especially outside the US) more than makes up for any RROD issues. I guess that 10679 feels the same way. As to sales figures, well I can't really say whether or not the PS3's sales will pick up, although if a price drop does happen it seems likely. It does beg the question why Sony have continually ignored their poor performance this long.

kratos788
kratos788

10679, look man i extended my invitation and i got other things to do, i will not continue this, i will just wait if frazzle00 answers, and maybe reply and thats it, because it looks like it can go on forever. I think congratulations are in order for the both of us, you are the first person that actually gave me some sort of argument, ive talked to flat out fanboys and they cant give me a good argument on why its "supposably" better. We went on and covered a whole page of comments in long disputes, haha, we both held up, and thats good. I trust your not a fanboy of xbox as neither am i of ps3, yes i do prefer it, but also am willing to like my other consoles as well(so if i ever had to get rid of one it would probably be the 360, actually maybe not, maybe the wii) thats because not too many games interest me on the wii. I still like the wii, but not as much as the other 2. My whole point with the dispute was not sales, and you continued to show me sales. If you read the one below i commented to frazzle00, i state my whole point, not sales, but quality. Anyway this will be one of my last posts on here, but expect me in future GOW3 threads.

kratos788
kratos788

@frazzle00, anyone who defends what?do u mean kutaragi? or ps3 sales? or the ps3 itself? the only point i was trying to stress was that yes i do know that ps3 is getting trumped in sales right now, i at no time denied that, the only thing i was stating is that its a great system, and sales are likely to pick up, with a pricedrop and the great games. NEVER did i say it would surpass 360, all i said was that will most likely pick up and be alot better than they are. I know that someone who would defend the sales now compared to the other systems, they would be a fanboy idiot, since there is no way you can twist and turn it to make ps3 be ahead anyway you look at it. My concern is not with numbers, its with the quality of the consoles and games.

10679
10679

kratos788 the only reason why i accused you for reporting me because i got reported just after you post your message and since you are the only one that i am arguing with i thought it was you lol. man why would i bury the hatchet when i am having so much fun here lol. u can do it if you want. you are the only one in this thread who truly loves the ps3, as you are the only one who really defended it. good job lol.

frazzle00
frazzle00

@Kratos788 and 10679 LOL I had quite a bit of fun reading both of your posts. The only fact that's relevant is the fact that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Kratos you may prefer the PS3 and 10679 may prefer his 360. It's also only natural that both of you have different taste in games. No one is wrong. No one is right. Enjoy the console/s you have. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As to sales figures, well that is a different story. You can't deny the fact that the PS3 is not doing as well as either of its predecessors. It is being steadily outsold by both the Wii and 360 in the US. It's being outsold by the Wii in Europe and its lead over the 360 is ever dwindling there too, and in Japan it's so far behind the Wii that whatever sales victories it may have over the 360 (not this month however check the Gamespot article) are moot. Let's also not forget that Kutaragi's sacking was not attributable to the current recession. He f**ked up plain and simple. Does that make the PS3 a bad console? NO. But anyone who defends it blindly is a fanboy idiot.