Girl Scouts get merit badge for game development

Overall aim of new initiative in collaboration with Women in Games International is to get badge rolled out nationwide.

The Girl Scouts are piloting a merit patch for game development.

The badge is a collaboration between Women in Games International and the Girl Scouts of Greater Los Angeles, and right now the badge is only available for Girl Scouts in LA.

The course to obtain the patch will be specially designed, with WIGI developing a program that will meet the patch requirements of the Girl Scouts.

Speaking to Girl Gamer, WIGI vice president Amy Allison said "creating this badge will get young girls excited in technology and science and let them know that they, too, can have a career in the video game industry."

WIGI's overall aim is to use the Gamestar Mechanic to get girls actually developing video games, and to get the badge rolled out nationwide. The Boy Scouts currently have a merit badge for game design, though it does not require actual video game development.

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TrueGB
TrueGB

As long as the girl earned it and wanted to do it in the first place, that's fine. I never liked it when all these schools threw all this stuff at me to garner my interest in something and I suspect these girls are the same way.

Coco_pierrot
Coco_pierrot

What the fuck is wrong with people commenting ??? Fuck this is just a badge for Girl Scout to give them some encouragement, some interest. It is OK and perfect as is.

l777l
l777l

Best to give them badges for everything. Especially they should give the girls badges for getting a sex change, showing them that are not limits to what they can do. Former girls. Also, they should get shame-badges for doing traditionally female things.

jinzo9988
jinzo9988

"creating this badge will get young girls excited in technology and science and let them know that they, too, can have a career in the video game industry."

Really?  In 2013 there are still women who think like this?  She should honestly be ashamed of herself for using that kind of verbage.

EMelville
EMelville

It's called the GIRL Scouts, it caters to only one gender.

ZipGalaxy
ZipGalaxy

I love how almost every response to this page is from a male, most of which appear to be slightly sexist. Providing opportunities for females to experience the gaming industry is hardly sexist. They are attempting to draw more females into the industry so it's not a mast fest like it is now. With everyone complaining about female portrayal in games, why not let a female design and write the character. Then you can say she is incompetent rather than sexist if the character comes out poor.

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Hammershock6
Hammershock6

Stupid American's what are you thinking?

stevenjore
stevenjore

When will you hetero-normals STOP PERSECUTING those who self identify as female??

CentumAngelus
CentumAngelus

This is a good plan. And to all of you who think that this is a terrible idea for some reason or another, Girl Scouts is about empowering women, and teaching leadership skills, not just about teaching wilderness survival skills, that is more Boy Scouts pace. Another point of interest is that there IS a need to show girls that they too can join a male dominate field. Girls, from a young age, are taught to care about fashion, looks, preparing for motherhood. (Look at Barbie, and other baby doll toys that girls need to feed, change, and take care of). Society is very skewed in the idea that men need to be the leaders of the world while women need to be their caretakers. 

PacoTaco
PacoTaco

ah video game development - such an essential, life-saving skill.  Sure to be of help in the wilderness after the zombiepocalypse.  


willzihang
willzihang

The witch hunts continue... nothing to see here.

91210user
91210user

golddiggers, golddiggers I say, with all the mistransactions and charm video games have, they will dig for my money for some video game about selling cookies or something!

look at that pixel art heart badge!

*Ding dong*

"Hello, how would you like to play this video game"

ME: I don't play video games, sorry! *lying*

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

They better have equal opportinuties for boys too. I think it is MORE sexist to be giving girls better opportunites, just because they FEEL left out, even though there are plenty of woman in the industry and in the consumer base.

TohouAsura
TohouAsura

Gamestar Mechanic -- The solution for anyone too dumb or lazy to learn how to ACTUALLY develop video games!

This is everything wrong in the world.

Learn a programming language, 3D modelling, animation, Sound design, anything.

I have little respect for someone who needs an actual tutorial to explain the concept of Collision detection.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@EMelville  

Which just brings up the point of why are Boy and Girl Scouts separated by gender in the first place.

If ethinic segragation is considered being predjudice against ethnic groups, why isn't gender?

That's like having an office that is divided into two sections - a girl and a boy section.

ZipGalaxy
ZipGalaxy

@CentumAngelus Thank god there is at least one person on this page who is not entirely sexist, or in denial of their own sexist nature. Don't know why people freak out about things like this, do they still think girls are gross or something...

shingui5
shingui5

@PacoTaco since when has the scouts ever really been about wilderness survival? 

Dahorsh
Dahorsh

@Scorpion1813 Reginald! Reginald...Someone is mistaken on the interwebs! Reginald put down that bloody cricket bat and adopt your monocle. Yes, come and peruse this odd statement on my wireless cogitator. Yes, yes...it seems someone believes that since there are more opportunities than.../before/ for ladies and lasses...They seem to believe that the playing field is now fair and balanced. Yes yes, I'm sure they don't feel completely threatened by the fact. No no Reginald, I'm sure they're very good people and not low or impoverished. They can afford their own cogitator my good man. No no, they're simply misinformed. Perhaps they made an assumption based on some pear-shaped view. Reginald...Reginald...I'm sure he knows deep down that years of a male-favored industry will take more than a few years to change. After all, they have been left out in more ways than one...Things have changed but perhaps not as much as some may think. Pass me my steam parambulator and we shall walk the dolphin.

shingui5
shingui5

@TohouAsura they are girl scouts dude, they don't need to understand bloody everything to develop an interest in the field.

god forbid you ever become a teacher in a science or something.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@PodXCOM  

All males panel: "OMG! They are soooo sexist they don't have any women on their panel!"

All female panel: "OMG! They are just using women and objectifying them to sell games!"

The stupid thing is, there is a very real possibility that they asked a female member of staff if they would like to be on the panel and they refused. And forcing them to be on the panel just to show they aren't sexist, it actually being sexist!

frylock616
frylock616

@Scorpion1813 @EMelville 


they are seperated so no little boys are fucking little girls that dont wanna be fucked or seen changing. 


God you guys are retards.

Kickable
Kickable

@Scorpion1813 @EMelville Because we're talking about children, not adults.  There's a long list of reasons why they're seperated, particularly teenagers.  I disagree with a few, agree with others.

Kickable
Kickable

@Scorpion1813 @Hammershock6 Eh?  The Boy Scouts have also done this.  There's nothing sexist about it.  It's a Girl Scouts badge only available to girls.  Do you wish boys could join the Girl Scouts?

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@frylock616

And yet you're the one who doesn't seem to recognise the difference between the actual PE class, and getting changed for said PE class. I never said anything about them getting changed together.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Kickable

The only school class that seperated teenage boys and girls was PE (Physical Education). And even then they aren't always separated.

Unless you're talking about those stupid school that are catered to only a single gender - and there's a "long list of reasons" why that is a bad idea.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Kickable

But will they? There is the stimga that girls need this support, and boys don't. Which is BS.

Kickable
Kickable

@Scorpion1813 @Kickable Well I'm sure they will, if the Boy Scouts are motivated to do so and developers want to participate.  The same way Girl Scouts association went about it.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Kickable

I'm not saying the Girl Scouts shouldn't be introducing this, I'm saying the Boy Scouts should get it as well. I would say the same if the Boy Scouts got it and the Girl Scouts didn't. 

Kickable
Kickable

@Scorpion1813 @Kickable But these opportunities that the girls have over the boys are only the first few steps, they're not guaranteed anything concrete.  An organization like WIGI is created because of the undeniable imbalance of women vs. men in the industry.  These developers  contributing are doing so because they see it too.  To automatically assume it's going to evolve into some equal opportunity nightmare is based on very little and it's not fair at all.  No one is stopping the Boy Scouts from being proactive and creating the same possibilities for boys.  Why expect the Girl Scouts to sacrifice what they're doing to balance it for both genders?  If they are not met with the same enthusiasm from the industry don't you think it's because boys don't need the help?

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Kickable

I wouldn't say it was just raising awareness. After all they get first hand experience in actually developing a game. Which I don't have anything against other than the fact it is only available in the GIRL Scouts. The Boy Scout have an "equivalent", but they aren't getting equal opportunities.

The problem I have is that just because there are less women in the industry, it seems they are trying to make it easier for women to get into it. This could lead down a road of "We need to hire more women to meet the quota of 'women in the industry'!", as well as "We can't hire any more men at this time as we have too many - but we are hiring women!"

It could get to the point that it would be easier to have a sex-change to get a job than it would be to use that same money to pay for a university degree.

Yeah, that might be a little exaggeration, but you get my point don't you? The fact that they claim "low percentage of female games developers" to be sexist, and then going and giving women more opportunities just because they are women. That's just more sexism!

This is about making games, someones gender should NOT be an issue here!The only thing that matter is the persons skills and abilities relating to games development.

Kickable
Kickable

@Scorpion1813@Kickable You described this initiative, which is basically just raising awareness for a career that not many girls show an interest in, as fighting sexism with sexism.  It's a fact that less women are in the industry than men, and that could be for quite a few different reasons.  If I'm confused and pegged you wrong it's because of things you said.  This could have nothing at all to do with sexism, they are just encouraging little girls to consider the career and balance the amount of women in the industry, how the industry got that way is irrelevant to be honest.

Hammershock6
Hammershock6

@Scorpion1813 @Kickable I think its dumb having video games in the Scouts at all. nothing to do with Sexism.  Scouts or similar are there to get kids out and about and active not f**ing around with computers, they mightaswell stay at home for that.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Kickable

Do what? Refuse to waste my time explaining to you when you clearly won't listen either way?

Because I thought I'd at least give it a go first, and you seemed confused so I felt the need to explain.

But with your "go bitch elsewhere" comment I didn't think it would be worth-while trying to open your mind for you.

Kickable
Kickable

@Scorpion1813 @Kickable Why didn't you do that in the first place instead of just a snarky sexism comment?  Are you really surprised I replied like I did?

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Kickable  

Would you even care if I was to explain, or would you just continue to tell me to "go bitch" elsewhere, while ignoring the bigger picture and pretending like the only thing that matters here is what is stated in the above article?!

Kickable
Kickable

@Scorpion1813 @Kickable it's a harmless initiative for girls in an organization that only accepts girls, which you don't have a problem with right?.  The WIGI and GIG do not regulate the actual industry in any meaningful way.  This is the Girl Scouts updating what they have to offer girls to match what Boy Scouts already had(though GS are going further).  How the hell does this warrant throwing around accusations of sexism?  Go bitch to the Boy Scouts for not being just as proactive and ambitious.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@Kickable

".... to get girls actually developing video games..... The Boy Scouts currently have a merit badge for game design, though it does not require actual video game development."

But I was referring to the entire "Girls in games" situation as a whole - not just this one example.

If they want to get rid of sexism, they should have the exact same opportunities for both males and females. Instead, they create more opportunities for females, to try and even the amount of females involved with an industry.

That is NOT combating sexism - it's just creating more. It's like fighting fire with more fire. You're just going to get a bigger fire! And in the end everyone is going to get burnt.