Gearbox talks next Brothers in Arms

CEO Randy Pitchford pledges series will return sometime in the future; Furious 4 "winning on its own merits."

The Brothers in Arms series will live to fight another day, though that day could be far in the future. Gearbox Software CEO Randy Pitchford told IGN that he's "really excited" about the next entry in the series, but made clear the game is only in pre-production and is a ways off.

"We love Brothers in Arms. The other pledge is that there will be an authentic Brothers in Arms game," Pitchford said. Again, we haven’t announced that yet, but I’m really excited about where that’s going too. We’ll announce these things in due course. There’s a lot of neat things we have going on."

Pitchford said he will hold off on making an official announcement on the next Brothers in Arms game until the time is appropriate.

"When you’re in pre-production and you're in these iterations, it’s kind of reckless. I don't want to get in a spot. I want to avoid a situation where, five years from now it’s 'wow, this game's been in development for five years.' That’s why I don’t announce things until we know what they are," he added. "It’s not fair to hold us accountable for a process that’s designed to get to a quality end that's good for the customer. We love Brothers in Arms and we’re committed to more time in that space. As we get to places where it makes sense to announce things in that regard, we’ll do that, too."

Pitchford also opened up on the game formerly known as Brothers in Arms: Furious 4. This game was announced during the 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo, but Gearbox later revealed it would be reimagined as an entirely new intellectual property. He said Gearbox started development on the game with the intention of making a Brothers in Arms game, but after it kept evolving, it became evident that it was not in fact a Brothers in Arms game.

"It was winning on its own merits, but it was not Brothers in Arms," Pitchford said. I said 'look, unhinge it from Brothers in Arms. Continue to drive and iterate even further. Focus on what is making that work and what ideals are leading you there.' It’s the same kind philosophy that allowed things like Borderlands to exist. Forget about Brothers in Arms. Ignore it. Don't worry about it. That doesn't exist to you guys anymore. Just iterate into your own world with the gameplay loops that are working, and then we will reattach story and style in a way that's meaningful and makes sense for the game design that’s winning."

Pitchford also revealed that Gearbox and longtime Brothers in Arms publisher Ubisoft have not yet agreed to a publishing deal for the new entry, though the two remain on positive terms. He also said that Ubisoft "will not" publish the game Furious 4 has become, without citing a reason.

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110 comments
foodrules
foodrules

Brothers in Arms was probably my favourite video game series when I was younger. Really hope they bring back Baker's story someday, although the chances are looking slimmer and slimmer now...

suko1983
suko1983

Come on! Release a new Brothers in Arms, I'm tired of crapy modern FPS, you can kill a guy from across the map, the real war was WWII.

bannermanner
bannermanner

Wonder if they're going to outsource it and work on Borderlands instead, which is what they've been doing (according to them) since Duke Nukem Forever.

PublicNuisance
PublicNuisance

As long as it doesn't suck then release dates are of no concern.

hystavito
hystavito

Hopefully they don't just make one that ends up being a generic arcade shooter. 

Sorciere_basic
Sorciere_basic

Maybe Pitchford can iterate a new reputation becuse it smells like shit.

godzillavskong
godzillavskong

BIA series is awesome! I loved the last iteration.

Gblazer01
Gblazer01

I miss BIA games :'( Bring it back sooonnnnnnnnnnnn

momo4070
momo4070

i don't give a fuck , what ubisoft do , i just want know what mat baker in Berlin !!!! plz hurry the fuck up ?!?!?! 

mikees1
mikees1

Lets have a BIA game about the British army in Europe. After all we did far more of the fighting in Europe, the middle east and Africa. And we were doing it two years prior to the tanks deciding if they were going to join the war or not. And how many non Americans are getting sick of playing an American protagonist and there wrongful belief of being Europes saviour?

Lei_11
Lei_11

I look back fondly to hidden & dangerous 1, thinking "man..that setting and admosphere was great, perhaps this game will be like it". *checks out trailer* ..........I am a fool.

M-S-M-S
M-S-M-S

The last Brothers in Arms game was mediocre compared to the previous installments. I hope they'll do better with the next game in the series.

joedemadio
joedemadio

The next game will be Brothers in Arms: Battle of the Bulge  check it out on my channel: Joedemadio

Unholy123
Unholy123

Oh look randy 'I lie through my teeth' pitchford talking big about a game... yeah that usually ends well now doesn't it?  Oh wait...

WesStone501
WesStone501

how about you guys over at gamespot ask him why aliens sucked?   I have lost some faith in gearbox games.

moxyz1
moxyz1

Randy talks a good game lol,  the last brothers in arms was in developement for sooooo long and dropped somethings as well by the time it was finally out i seem to remember.  Not that it was bad tho and i liked it unlike Duke and ACM wich are a joke imo. 


corte005
corte005

Just stop, ya guys F'd up Colonial marines and even lied about making the game.  Who are you gonna outsource this game to?  

datbush
datbush

After reading that devs comments on aliens CM and how pitchford lied (again), I have to say....pitchford is full of crap. I'm willing to bet the next real BIA will be more dumbed down and casualised then hells highway was.

vicrysty
vicrysty

This is good news. I really miss playing games with the action in WWII.

valium88
valium88

Hell's Highway was a shame of a game. Even if this turns out better, WWII-Shooters are old imo. Wanna do something really cool with WWII? Make an action open-world RPG and add some strategic elements in that. Kind of like the Saboteur but on a much larger scale, and in the field. Start out as a private in a squad and rank up as part of the leveling, get assignments and progress as you see fit. That's a WWII game I would play.

SEEDman_X
SEEDman_X

Brothers in Arms was really good and unique due to its focuse on tactic and teamwork.  I know this is just a teaser, but I really hope that they won't try to emulate other shooters.

Yodake
Yodake

I hope its better then his previews one.  That was awful

Carpetfluff
Carpetfluff

Sadly, twice bitten and now very very shy, is how any of Randy's enthusiastic claims make me. Borderlands proves the core in-house team can make a decent game, but things just keep going wrong...especially with all the out-sourcing.

The_Gaming_Baby
The_Gaming_Baby

The original Brothers in Arms was such a fantastic experience

pacheco03
pacheco03

I just don't get why they have to use the Brothers in Arms name in this Furius 4. Just call it Furius 4. This can potencially brand the Brothers in Arms as a series of silly shooters.

Winchester01
Winchester01

I'm more excited about Furious 4 than this.

AlexFili
AlexFili

I enjoyed the old Xbox games but they will struggle compared to Call of Duty, just like Medal of Honor did.

DarthLod
DarthLod

Stick to Borderlands, something you actually do well.

garysuperman
garysuperman

Here's hoping it turns out like borderlands, instead of aliens or duke nukem. i'll be optimistic for once about gearbox

realiamnot
realiamnot

I've been looking forward to the next chapter in the brothers in arms series for ages, where I do welcome a new idea for a new game I just wish they would've thought of that after the next brothers in arms.

zombiewarrior07
zombiewarrior07

Any chance we could see a battle of the bulge BIA? That would be sweet.

felixvarela07
felixvarela07

Randy will you shut up already ijust got aliens colonial marines and this game is an embarrasment to the franchise,first you destroyed duke nukem now aliens.You hype up games to ripp people off you should get fired or something.Stop doing so much talking and produce something that resembles a decent game.

HIT3kNology
HIT3kNology

People complaining should take out your concerns with Gearbox financial documents and then ask them if they give a fuck about your opinions. Leave Randy alone, he is just a CEO.

BuBsay
BuBsay

Good lord, It'd be interesting to go back in time 10 years and tell the gamers of yesteryear that people are clamoring and hoping that another WWII shooter will finally come out again.

vaillant085
vaillant085

the last game completely gutted the series. period

vaillant085
vaillant085

the last one was garbage, the mp was garbage also, no more assault orders, no more classic 2 vs 2 that made this game in the first place. so go f--- yourself pitchfork you destroyed my favorite game. if you got any balls youll go back to what made it stand out : 2 vs 2 and assault orders!!!!!!! not fucking grenade throws you dumb ass

Hortey
Hortey

I liked the BiA series... it's very odd to see a free flowing tac shooter like that was.  I mean, outside of games like red orchestra... how many times have you seen a WW2 game where you control a squad tactically, have suppression, flanking, and get to choose how the level plays?  How many ww2 games on console have that at all?  How many shooters from any era on console let you control a squad like that?  GRFS and OFP are probably the closest but GRFS only lets you select target now while they follow you around and OFP games are no longer in production.  I'd like to see what they do with BiA style of game (since the next one will be next gen) with powerful hardware.  My only gripe with the recent ones has been they are still fairly linear in a lot of areas.

steelmouth
steelmouth

I dont know about other Brothers in Arms  games but i have played Hell's High way and boy was i not impressed, the graphics were horrible, fights/action very dull and i still dont get the story line, the only thing that kept me playing was to see the credits at the end.

Yes i dont get the story line of plenty games and thats ok if the action is good and keep me too engaged to notice the subpar story

wavelength121
wavelength121

The first one was the best. They got increasingly worse after that. I can only replay the same stupid battles from a different perspective so many times before it gets redundant. Should have left it at a single title.

happyemonathan
happyemonathan

About time gearbox got back to the brothers in arms series.
I felt like punching Randy for showing us furious 4 and then calling it a brothers in arms game. Don't get me wrong i think that game could be good but it would be such a huge leap from the brothers in arms franchise that i think it would put off a lot of the old fans (I would be finding myself guilty here) and I'm glad it's taking on its own IP.

Looking forward to getting back into the Brothers in Arms story and hoping that everything gets wrapped up nicely for our boys. Now please excuse me while i go and rejoice with a jovial dance in my backyard.

mattmp1786
mattmp1786

@mikees1 You should realize that in almost every campaign the British and Americans fought in together, the Americans lost greater numbers while gaining more ground. The British (under Montgomery) liked to sit back and wait, ignoring battle plans and the orders of Ike. You get the African campaign, and that's really only because the U.S. came into the war late. The entire Italian campaign, arguably one of the worst decisions of the war in my opinion, was conceived by Churchill to continue his Imperial reign in the Mediterranean. So many American deaths for nothing but British domination of the world.


Not to say America was the factor that decided the war. Germany shot themselves when they turned on Russia and made a two front war. 

godzillavskong
godzillavskong

@M-S-M-S I thoroughly enjoyed the last one. Hard to top the first and second one, but I still thought it was outstanding.

Kevlar101
Kevlar101

@datbush I fail to see how Hell's Highway was even relatively "casualized" ....

Iranazi
Iranazi

@valium88 Tbh, WW2 shooters WERE old, as in yes, around 10 years ago, there were too many of them, but now, there's too many modern shooters and personally I wouldn't mind a return to the WW2 scene

SuperiorAssasin
SuperiorAssasin

@Carpetfluff bl2 was good and all but it didnt do alot new except for loot and storyline , game mechanics wise (lvl 50 on 3 characters and completed all dlc's 2 date)