Garriott says 'designers just suck' comments taken out of context

Ultima creator Richard Garriott says true meaning did not comment across in recent interview, comments not intended to disparage others or glorify himself.

Ultima creator and role-playing game veteran Richard Garriott has clarified his "most game designers really just suck" comments from earlier this week. In an statement to his website titled "Words Taken Out Of Context," Garriott explained that he did not mean to disparage others or glorify himself by saying there is a dearth of game design talent in the industry today.

"By no means did I intend to disparage others who have led the many great games of each era in gaming history," Garriott said. "I was trying to say, and show why finding or growing NEW great game designers is hard!"

"I really do see a major challenge to our art form, specifically in the area of design," he added. "The design of a game is simultaneously 1) the most valuable aspect when it comes to the potential of success of a game, 2) the hardest part of game development to improve over previous efforts because of competition, and 3) the skill set with the least formal and informal training available to game developers."

Garriott admitted that he could have phrased his comments better, but said he stands by his original point: that game design is the most challenging profession in game development to understand and learn.

"And I certainly am not trying to put my own career on some sort of game design high ground. While I have hit occasional home runs, I have made plenty of unforced errors," he said. "I was not attempting to prop myself up with these comments, but rather lament my need…our industry’s need for proper training in the most important skill required to make a good game."

"I never had any formal training either; I have just had more time to learn from my mistakes than most," he added. "If what comes from all this is a frank discussion and lively debate on how to best address this issue, then hopefully I've accomplished something."

Garriott and his Portalarium development studio are currently working on PC role-playing game Shroud of the Avatar: Forsaken Virtues. The project is the latest Kickstarter success story, having eclipsed its $1 million target earlier this week.

For more on Garriott, check out GameSpot's interview with the industry veteran regarding how his trips to space and to the Titanic wreckage influenced him creatively.

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SauhlGood
SauhlGood

whatever... hes right to begin with, there is a lack of design, a severe one, design innovations dont keep pace with gfx, prolly because it costs lots of money and companies like EA/Activision wont change somthing that people buy anyways, regardless of how derivative each generation is,.... its why we have 4-5 versions one game, with nothing to show for it except new gfx.  And im of the opinion that you can polish a turd all you want, in the end all your getting is a shiny pos.

fourclawrider
fourclawrider

Predictable post-trainwreck damage control statement. Saw this coming from a mile away.

Tychobrahi
Tychobrahi

hmm..  if his new "reinvention" doesn't do so well, he's got no choice but to include himself in the "suck list" right? 

"In space, no one can hear you rant."

Manji14
Manji14

Respect King Garriott you plebs.

overlord_hh
overlord_hh

Is it just me or every one else also feel like punching this guy in the face

telaros
telaros

Why did he feel he had to lesson his views on game designers? I thought the exact same thing for the past 7 years!

Hurvl
Hurvl

Oh sure, it's obviously taken out of context, because you can't possibly be that douchy and arrogant, can you?

Tomdogg
Tomdogg

The only reason Garriott is saying this is purely a publicity stunt. This guy hasn't made a game that's worth even breathing on in almost 20 years. This is a stupid and very desperate attempt to regain some traction after being out of the spotlight for so long. 

SnakeEyesX80
SnakeEyesX80

Maybe because everyone and their mother can get a game design "degree" from any cheap online school. There's a lot of talentless people just trying to get jobs in the industry thinking it's easy money. Doesn't anyone remember all the stupid Collins College ads on late night TV for game design degrees?

Look at a lot the great indie games that have come out over the past few years, most of this stuff was created by just regular people, in their house, with some computer knowledge or multiple people with varying amounts of knowledge.

Smackpwn
Smackpwn

its already been proven again and again, you cant just turn a crapfest game into f2p and make it successfull only because its free, it still has to be a good game, tera has nothing but weak action combat going for it nothing else, itll die like all the rest

Dr_Corndog
Dr_Corndog

I look at the types of games being released these days, and I almost feel like he could have left his original comment unamended.

Morphine_OD
Morphine_OD

I like how most people forget that this guy also made Lineage and City of Heroes.

emgesp
emgesp

That guy has a very punchable face. 

Mellowcow
Mellowcow

Did this guy ever get to play Dark Souls? I bet not.

TheKitesNest
TheKitesNest

hm has he nothing better to do......leave things were they lie theres no taking back what was said. some people approve some dont, its that simple his words are not a truth however he can make his opinion a he pleases.

Diamondsoulz
Diamondsoulz

Garriot is the Man he can say whatever he wants cause he's right! 

tightwad34
tightwad34

Too late for damage control. The internet already loathes you. Your head is too far up your ass to pull it out.

mark1982
mark1982

Garriott is a complete tool, with Tabula Rasa under his belt he's just putting his own foot in his mouth. Again, complete tool...

uncle5555
uncle5555

"Richard Garriott says...comments not intended to disparage others or glorify himself."

 Says the man who calls himself LORD British.

00J
00J

He's got room to talk. 

I'll type it again, and i did say "He's got room to talk". 

He's proven himself .

advocacy
advocacy

I don't know how the statement "most game designers really suck" could be open to any other interpretation.

MW2ismygame
MW2ismygame

While it is true, many do suck you are not the person to be making that distinction thats our job. Furthermore, dont lie this was not out of context you just got called out for trash talk. Now we can all move along 

/ofstory 

CronoFrank
CronoFrank

He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones.

iempire68
iempire68

Come on, have the balls to stand by your word. Don't say something if you can't take the consequences of it. You look worse now.

KimCheeWarriorX
KimCheeWarriorX

he knows what he was doing, he was trying to get publicity and he succeeded. now that people are flaming him, he puts on the nice guy act. what a guy.

Rovelius
Rovelius

Tabula Rasa.

That is all. 

Daemoroth
Daemoroth

Can't explain away "But other than a few exceptions, like Chris Roberts, I've met virtually no one in our industry who I think is close to as good a game designer as I am. I'm not saying that because I think I'm so brilliant. What I'm saying is, I think most game designers really just suck, and I think there's a reason why.", there just isn't a way to take that out of context.

You're an arrogant pr*** with a hyper-inflated ego Garriott, you created ONE great series more than 2 decades ago (And then rinse-and-repeated the formula 7 times), your latest attempt at game design was an abysmal failure (Tabula Rasa), and you have the balls to use that line in an interview?

Nope, nothing was taken out of context, trying to excuse that is like me trying to say "No offence, but you're the biggest d***head in the industry".

Dezuria
Dezuria

Has he made a good game since the 1980s?  Well, there was Tabula Rasa, I heard that turned out well.

jimrhurst
jimrhurst

I said it after the interview came out and I'll say it again here.  He has a point about design being hard and a dearth of talent.  And he's still an arrogant prick.

green_scorpion
green_scorpion

I understand.  If I were trying to say that game development is hard, I might just accidentally say that "I've met virtually no one in our industry who I think is close to as good a game designer as I am."  Also, everyone who comments on this story really just sucks.  By that I mean that commenting on this story is really challenging and we need NEW people to make good comments.

sunyatanada76
sunyatanada76

Already saw this troll article a mile a way. LOL

RPG_Fan_I_Am
RPG_Fan_I_Am

If I was him I'd stand by that statement. Most game designers these days do suck. And I'm not talking about the well known people, sure the great designers make great games, But most are too worried about how great the game looks. And by looks I mean graphically. Who cares if you have fun playing it. it looked great right? I almost never buy games new anymore. And even when I drop $30 on a game 90% of the time I'm sitting there thinking wow.... This wasn't worth that much.... 

I want gameplay. I could care less if the trees look like trees and the water looks like water, and the grass blows in the wind, and when things explode they look pretty. If the game is a guy with a giant sword running around aimlessly killing things I'll get bored in 5 minutes every time. As long as if I can look at a tree and see its a tree, or look at water and I know its water, I don't need it to ripple realistically. if I don't get the gameplay.

Kravyn81
Kravyn81

"Most game designers really just suck."

Oh sure, I can see where the confusion comes in..../sarcasm

silverwings21
silverwings21

I thought the taken out of context 'designers just suck' comment meant that the designers are just 1-trick prostitutes. ; )

codeman101360
codeman101360

I can't stand this prick. He brags about how he can afford to drop millions of dollars on trips to space and such, then he expects US to fund HIS game that he could easily fund 100 times over just so he can turn around and sell it so he can make EVEN MORE money.

PsyonicPlague
PsyonicPlague

I...Am...Not..Here, haha, anyway, this "revised" version of his quote seems to make a deal more sense than the previous, but I'm not sold. Although, just calling the rest of the industry's game designers incompetent (or in as many words) seems like it would be a PR nightmare, yet, I'm not so willing as to blindly believe this "out of context" stuff

electro57
electro57

Former U.S. President Bill Clinton also once said "I did not inhale."

FriendBear
FriendBear

I don't know if its the designers, or the bosses 'telling' them to create questionable content.  Look at Guild Wars 2 and Diablo III, all the gaffs both games have made.  The problem is these days, gaming in general is about one thing - Money.  I hope the gaming industry collapses and the developers that are left start to look at what actually created the industry in the first place, normal people creating actually decent games and actually caring about the game instead of how much income it'll generate - This is one of the main reasons why I support more and more Indie developers these days than mainstream.

Syrlink
Syrlink

So this guy blows his money on a trip to space and then begs the internet for more money to make his dream come true?  And people actually gave it to him?  Wow...the internet needs to find better people and better causes to fund.


Why doesn't he use some of the 28 million dollars he won in that lawsuit against NCSoft?

Sideshow_me
Sideshow_me

"I was trying to say, and show why finding or growing NEW great game designers is hard!"

So why didn't you just say that then? *sigh*

importantbrothe
importantbrothe

Perhaps his comments will be seen in a new light when Shroud of the Avatar comes out (for better or worse).

VarietyMage
VarietyMage

Garriott, it's too late to fix your stupidity and narcissism.  You lost me with your remarks, perfectly in context.  You said what you thought, and you pissed me and a whole lot of other people off.  Now, go back into space where you belong.  Leave the gaming to us.

SunicoXD
SunicoXD

Damage control? Too bad. He should've goes and drop the 'F' bomb while he's at it. I'd like to see another Romero in the game industry. The game designers and companies nowadays are so dull and boring.