GameStop requiring trade-ins for Wii, PS3 pre-orders?

Source: Reports springing up in a number of gaming hangouts, including Gaming Age Forums and Cheap Ass Gamer. The official story: See below. What we heard: Even on their best days, most gaming message boards are not known as level-headed venues where different ways of thinking are welcome or...

Source: Reports springing up in a number of gaming hangouts, including Gaming Age Forums and Cheap Ass Gamer.

The official story: See below.

What we heard: Even on their best days, most gaming message boards are not known as level-headed venues where different ways of thinking are welcome or accepted. So when Cheap Ass Gamer forum-goer "Hack" posted a picture of a GameStop flier over the weekend that said the retailer was requiring the $50 deposit on Wii and PlayStation 3 pre-orders to be paid in game trade-ins (cash or credit not accepted!), there was naturally much ado.

Gamers took the news and ran with it, spreading it around various message boards and getting a bit of coverage from news aggregators as well. However, as the news spread, it seemed certain nuances were lost. The original poster, Hack, updated his post to clarify things as he understood them after a call back to the store where he picked up the flier.

"I will repeat that I never said this was official, or meant this to be an official nationwide announcement," Hack wrote in an update to his post. "As the beginning of this post has always stated (or rather, used to state), I'm not aware if this is a nationwide trend or not (and we have learned that it currently IS NOT). I do live in Hawaii, and therefore this could only be in my region. This is basically a small scale test of this new pre-ordering method. That means that if this test succeeds in Hawaii, it could possibly take effect nationwide."

It seems the GameStop employee who filled Hack in had the facts straight. A spokesman for the retailer told us today that the pre-order stipulation is real, but stressed that it is only a test, and one that the company is conducting only in Hawaii. He also said the test began and ended today, and that the company doesn't have an official nationwide program for pre-orders yet. It's unknown if Hawaiian customers will get another crack at pre-orders in the nationwide program, whatever form it may take.

The test is over, and it will be a little while before we see whether or not GameStop decides to embrace that strategy on a nationwide basis. However, it seems likely that GameStop, and possibly other retailers as well, would do something to improve their bottom line on console launches.

Whereas the profit on new game hardware is traditionally very small, the profit on selling used games is considerably higher. Requiring trade-ins to cover the deposit would be one way for retailers to better their bottom lines without requiring the bundled purchases that have become common from online retailers, including GameStop's own Web store.

Bogus or not bogus?: Bogus that the plan is nationwide. Not bogus that GameStop was using Hawaii to test consumer reaction to the idea.

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259 comments
superjon5
superjon5

that sounds num, who would want to give up there games without getting money out of it??????????????????????

Rusty2004
Rusty2004

you know about something called a credit card??? Gues not...

snakenamedjoe
snakenamedjoe

I don't even think that's legal. Even as a test. As a company doing business in America I am pretty sure you're required to accept, within reason, any legal US tender. Now a gas station can choose not to accept cash late at night because it brings up their chances of being robbed. That is within reason. But if they do business they have to accept some type of legal tender.

Prophet_Posse
Prophet_Posse

good. now i can trade in my PSP that i never play.

Rahxon
Rahxon

gunmx The test is over? I live in Hawaii, and I just did this about an hour ago. How can they do any kind of meaningful "testing" when the program wasn't offerred to anyone in our market and lasted less than 24 hours? Something's not right here. Simple: because the Gamestop monkeys that make up the ideas for "testing" are well.... in fact monkeys.

AzHP
AzHP

LikwidX3: Did you even READ the article? It says up there, Cash or credit not accepted! Geez, really...

zenntench
zenntench

one of my friend did reserved a wii. dumb move cause she doesnt have a system anymore

LikwidX3
LikwidX3

im guessing that itll be optional to trade in 50bucks worth of games if u dont have the money, but if u do have the money u can just put that on there, gamestop has been doing this method rather u kno it or not, u ppl r just makin a big deal out of it because it involves nextgen consoles.

_Sam_
_Sam_

that's outragious

poopeaterduhduh
poopeaterduhduh

I agree with Josh. I asked my local gamestop and they arent reserving them at all until they nkow how many they are getting and when they know they MIGHT reserve first shipment. I know thats true because im friends with the guys there so he isnt lying.

tyrone987
tyrone987

I don't even have $50 worth of games I would want to trade-in.

TKE3993
TKE3993

And as far as us giving squat do you think that stores would actually give you the same amount of credit as what you paid hell no then they would be losing money. So don't say heres how it works like your an employee there because if you knew how it worked you would know that you cant get 20 bucks store credit from some game that came out in 2003 that no one cares for. If you really have problems with our values on trades and pricing of used games then take a trip to texas and take it up with the home office. I know that im being alittle mad here but i've been working for gamestop for 2 years now and the only thing I hear almost everyday is your rippin me off. Since when does a 19 yr old college student have the power to make the prices.....in other words its not our fault or choice of what we give for trades or sell games for we just do what where told like any other business. So anyone whos quick to judge gamestop employees about how we as just video game advisors rip you off I hope you read this.

TKE3993
TKE3993

We are only taking reservations for the GAMES PEOPLE. CALM DOWN!!!!! If you reserve a ps3/wii game then we will look your number up in our system and let you know when we will be taking reservations for the systems. Thats how it works for now and as for the person who talks about the bad credit for trading in games the hell with you man, gamestop is a corporate business its what they say on the amount not us so stop talking like its our fault.

antonioscordo
antonioscordo

OK, this would really suck? And what praytell will they accept as trade-ins? My Gamecube games? Yeah, I don't trade in games, I collect them, and with wii able to play them, if they think I'm letting them go they are nuts. Not to mention, any parents like me that want to pre-order one for the kids as a suprise for Christmas..... how would I exain the suddenly missing Gamecube games? Gamestop is clearly not thinking about how parents would want this for their kids for Christmas . . . If they were to adopt this, I'll have to buy mine elsewhere..... (And I've been pretty loyal to gamestop too . . . even have their little card....) Most of the games I have that are worth much as trade ins are big name games that I'm not willing to trade (we still play them and they would be easily missed by the kids), and using the lower quality games I have (that the kids may not miss one or two), would take a lot to make $50, and the shear quantity would make them noticable. If they said, maybe one trade-in game, and the rest in cash, then probably I could sneak one out of the house unnoticed, bt $50 worth? They are out of the *@$!#!%ing minds.

jillwarrior
jillwarrior

heres another great example of why gamers should avoid this parasite of a company and support instead locally owned video game stores that give gamers more in credit than ebgamestop ever will. this company is bad for the industry, bad for gamers and bad for your communtiy

RidleyDragon
RidleyDragon

For all of you planning on pre-ordering a Wii: Here are some numbers! Xbox 360 Launch window (holidays 2005): 3,000,000 systems PS3 Launch window (holidays 2006): 2,500,000 systems Nintendo Wii Launch window: 4,000,000 systems Now, I'm not very good at math, but 4,000,000 is a pretty big number. That's higher then the other two. And last I checked, the Wii doesn't quite have the demand, and has another console (that is much, much more likely to be sold out) to go against. Check Best Buy on launch day, it'll be there.

Ultradude1991
Ultradude1991

Gamestop wouldnt stoop to that level, such a thing will fail.

wiidreamer
wiidreamer

I am in the US, (Florida), and i called Gamestop two minutes ago and they said they are not taking Wii pre-orders YET. I chack my e-mail everyday too.

vjso2
vjso2

Nintendo is already charging $250 for the console. Why should we pay another $50 dollars? I can't afford to pay $300 dollars just for the console!

YonSon
YonSon

it'd be fine if they did this if they still let u pay cash if u didn't wanna trade ure games =/

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

The GameStop/EB merger was the worst thing that could have happened to videogame fans. This deal just sucks! :evil:

jekyll
jekyll

Nintendo must be fuming that they've made the Wii to entice people to buy their first console, and then one of America's largest videogame retailers comes up with a plan that would make it impossible for these people to get one on launch day

Chaos_crying
Chaos_crying

"Test consumer reaction"? EFFING OBVIOIUS. Alright, Gamestop, now ask an alcoholic what they think of Prohibition.

Riverwolf007
Riverwolf007

YEAH!!! we should all go to the local independent small retalers in our communities that accept trade ins.....OH WAIT! thats right we all put them out of buisness buy buying crappy games then returning them and demanding our money back, then when they wouldent do it because they were too small a business we took all our money to gamespot and EB. Well jerks you made your own damn bed now its time for you to lie in it.

mrblah00
mrblah00

maxim21 if you dont like the customers then quit your job. Theres a solution for everything these days if everyone just ignores their problems. And games stop being made after 3 months? Its amazing that people like you can work at a game store. ICO stopped being made because it sold like crap, not because its old. Games stop being made after 3 years yes, but 3 months? give me a break.

spy0070
spy0070

That spokesman is totally wrong. The test actually was over the weekend as far as I know, in Ala Moana Shopping Center. I live in Hawaii, and it didn't start today- it started a few days ago. Dunno if it's up there still. I totally remember seeing it the last time I went to Ala Moana, which was Friday. Gunmx, don't worry about it much (in terms of the time). It was SINCE Friday (the last day I saw it). But man, GameStop is starting to get really cheap on these things. It's annoying and wretched.

zerattakis
zerattakis

Very interesting indeed. I work for EB here in Australia and we've been taking pre-orders for both Wii and PS3 for many months. No mandatory trade-in's for a deposit either. What 'maxim21' says is very true. Here in Australia, it's extremely hard to get games after their 2-3 month production run and the trade system is used A LOT here to get the older titles. It's a shame there is so much retailer bashing here considering it's a Gamespot board. Also, it's not the employee's fault about the company policies, we just have to do it. By the sounds of it, the service here is either much better or the EB/Gamestop employee bashing is just overhyped BS because someone needed a have a whinge and that provided a scapegoat.

Kfoss
Kfoss

wow thanks for screwing us over GS!...$50 in games thats about 1/2 of my entire library, casue there only worth about 4 to 6 bucks a game, so you would need about 7 new titles or 13 or so old ones....and why would they want the old titles..casue they can sell them for oHH say 12 to 15 a piece generating a huge profit, and totaly screwing over the consumer! who paid 3 times that amount for all the games to begin with,.....yeaa not cool

blakintellikt
blakintellikt

I prefer wal-mart myself....find one in a retirement community and i guarantee that you will get whatever you want at launch...

Kravyn81
Kravyn81

Considering the pathetic amount GS/EB gives you back for trade-ins you're better off just using money. Unless they start giving you more money back for used games. But no thanks. I'll keep my games for the $2, $3, or $4 they want to give me back. That's an insult to my intelligence.

maxim21
maxim21

Its people like most of you who make working at Gamestop/EB very unpleaseant. Its true that Gamestop buys games for a low price and sells for a higher price. If you don't like it, don't trade in. Simple as that. Also, for those of you who say that they are taking all the money away from the developers, that is not completely true. Having trade-ins enables people to buy new games with the old games that they do not have. It actually opens up more possibilities for people who do not have enough money to buy new games. If it wasn't for trade-ins most of the older games would just stay in most people's homes, most likely just collecting dust, rather than being sold another person who will play the game. Those of you who complain about Gamestop/EB taking money from the developers also need to see that MOST games stop being made after about three months. Tell me where you can buy most older games in a new condition. I want to know where you can buy a new copy if ICO. Well, to sum this all up most of you just need to realize that Gamestop is a business and like most companies, they are looking for profits for their shareholders. If you don't like their services then just dont use it.

SteveTwo
SteveTwo

I'd want to know GameStop's product replacement/repair plan before I get a new system from them. As much as I hate BestBuy (And I do, really really deeply) the $50 product plan I got with my 360 there saved my ass on three occassions. Currently I want to go back to BestBuy just for the product plan... Maybe GameStop has a good product plan, I hate BestBuy!

kagefightinkip
kagefightinkip

total bs. i work at eb, which is, for all intents and purposes, gamestop. and they aren't even taking preorders yet. but if you go to f.y.e., they've been doing it for months, just don't expect to get yours from them on day one.

aashkii
aashkii

I rarely go to Gamestop anyway (say two, three times a year) so this doesn't affect me at all.

mrblah00
mrblah00

They still take PC games, atleast some do. My friend traded in Doom3, Deus Ex and Max Payne earlier this year. Of course the money they gave him barely covered tax.

sigma8
sigma8

Hmm. Sell game to EB/Gamestop for $5. Game is resold for $45 ($50 minus the $5). EB/Gamestop makes $40 in pure profit. Game developer makes $0. EVIL If you want to sell used, use some user-to-user method. I'd rather sell a game to Joey in Seattle for $25. I would get 5 times as much as giving it to EB/Gamestop, and he'd get it for $20 less. It's still evil, as far as the developer is concerned, but at least the majority of the money isn't going to some evil middleman who does nothing other than try to stay fat and rich.

Autolycus
Autolycus

jillwarrior interesting, the gamespot here had talked this up as if they were doing it and now are denying that they were going to do it as well. it seems that the "hawaii" only promotion was actually larger than that. but as usual Gamestop/eb employees are without a clue or lying outright to folks. i urge again everyone to buy from your locally owned store than this parasite of a company. its bad for gamers and the industry. -=-=-=-=- unfortunately most of us are without a clue. Because the company doesnt care enough about us, for us to care about doing our job properly. Is it fair to the customer no. but honestly....we dont care.....if we dont sell you our subs and reserves, we get fired...which i suppose isnt bad considering i made 5.45 /hr for 3 years. Shop small places...help someone out...not the guy golfing in the carribean. he doesnt care about saving you money...he cares about the president giving him a tax break....and making sure you odnt get one. WAKE UP!

Autolycus
Autolycus

Tertuel I traded in like 20(not exageratting) 1-2 year old PC games and they gave me a huge $40. we stopped taking PC games over 7 years ago...as a corporatation. SIMPLY PUT PEOPLE. IF YOU KEEP BUYING USED GAMES, there will NO NEW/CREATIVE GAMES LEFT. You'll be stuck with the same EA Sport titles that have plagued the consoles since they became popular. Again I work there and know how the company works. we do mark it up 400%(sometimes 800%) and the corporate people KEEP IT ALL. the employees dont see squat. Then managers change our time cards from 10pm clock out time to 9:30 without telling us. Then we tell our district manager and he doesnt do squat about it because he is busy doing....whatever the hell he doesnt do. So now we are going to HR and nothing will happen. We could sue(its the american way) and we have proof...but united states is about big business now and the small people LOSE...STOP BUYING USED and dont shop @ Best Buy either. I used to work there and they aren't AS GREEDy, but they fire people to save money(which can ruin peoples lives). I am right here people...if you cant afford 10 dollar difference between new and used YOU SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE YOU BUDGET IS TO TIGHT. THE END

mrblah00
mrblah00

haha, here come all the Gamespot managers trying to say "stop youre crying gamespot is a business" crap. What do people hate about Gamespots trade in policy? Their markups. They buy games for 2-5 dollars then turn around and markup the price by 500-1000%. Ive heard people say its about demand but oops thats BS, if it was about demand then why the hell are they selling the game for so much? In the real world overstocking of an item brings a price reduction, apparently Gamespot feels like they only have to follow this practice halfway. They underprice their used games just barely under new costs but dont even give you enough money to get a BigMac combo at Mcdonalds. They can still make money off of used games if they gave us a more respectable margin, they dont need to completely direspect us by paying so little and then charging so much. Thats NOT how a business works so dont give me that stupid teenage philosophical crap. Gamespot does not pay 10 dollars for a new copy of a game and then sell it for 60. They rip off the people selling the games and they rip off the people buying the games. If those people knew just how much Gamespot paid for that crumpled copy of MGS3 that is 3 dollars less than retail, Im sure they would never buy used again. They are an extremely underhanded business and I hope that the USA takes after Japan soon and bans used games just for the sole purpose of screwing over Gamespot and the people in charge. It would be a great day for the gamer and a bad day for the no-good slime running Gamespot.

jillwarrior
jillwarrior

interesting, the gamespot here had talked this up as if they were doing it and now are denying that they were going to do it as well. it seems that the "hawaii" only promotion was actually larger than that. but as usual Gamestop/eb employees are without a clue or lying outright to folks. i urge again everyone to buy from your locally owned store than this parasite of a company. its bad for gamers and the industry.

DevSingh1359
DevSingh1359

Man GS sucks....why'd they have to buy EB Games....the service sucks, the trade-in offers suck, the employees are retarded casuals who don't know crap about anything, hell everything sucks.

ryanjtravis
ryanjtravis

What a humongous, gigantic, monstrous load of crap. Why would Gamestop even THINK that would be acceptable? They deserve a good slap in the face for those shenannigans.

Expane
Expane

trading in games to EB/GS is basically asking to be raped

Tertuel
Tertuel

I traded in like 20(not exageratting) 1-2 year old PC games and they gave me a huge $40.

starcutter20000
starcutter20000

It's bogus read it... They were testing it in one state just like blockbuster tests all it's deals in texas

Demandred24
Demandred24

folks look at it this way, The price of pc games is still 49 dollars, even ones that are duel core software. The software on the 360 is still single core, just like most of the pc software is. The difference is, you can trade in a console game, and the company doesn't see profit from that console game once it is sold used, vs a pc game that you can't sell as used. Once you bought it you have it, well unless you ebay it lol. Anyhow interesting point here.

d429
d429

we all should boycott lol cuz of the price first of all and then gamestop! $50 for a pre-order!

nappan
nappan

"Get_Shorty I would be doing that whether they required it or not. Good bye old welcome new." Hilarious! You are going to snag a console that will be mainly filled with ports of old games, or new games that use 1/4 or less of the console's power and you're "out with the old in with the new"? This is the same attitude held by people who let games like Bomberman 360 exist.