GameSpot GamePlay Episode 31: Covert Taboo Action

Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli joins Kevin, Caro, Tom, and Peter to tell us what the next generation means for him. Also: steak, s'mores, and fondue for everyone!

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 31: Covert Taboo Action

Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli is having a busy year--but not so busy that he couldn't make time to join an especially rambunctious team of GameSpot busybodies. Cevat schools us in the way of the next generation as we ponder the Pikmin's political ramifications, compare playing video games to cooking steak on rocks, and wash a potty-mouthed superhero's mouth out with supersoap.

In addition to our special guest, host Kevin VanOrd also welcomes GameSpotters Tom Mc Shea, Carolyn Petit, and Peter Brown. Caution: thoughtful hilarity contained within!

You can access all previous episodes on GameSpot here.

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Disturbed_88
Disturbed_88

Sorry, but you all sound ridiculous at 28:00, with the Battlefield 3 soundtrack. The original Battlefield soundtrack, is one of my favorite soundtracks of all time. I know the tune in 3 made it hard to recognize, but the original tune (which is still in there) brings back so many memories!

PK_Tech
PK_Tech

Thank you Tom for actually challenging what Cevat Yerli said. Far too often podcast guests (in general not Gamespot specifically) spout any old rubbish, unchallenged by the regulars.

Lord_Python1049
Lord_Python1049

Where are the geodude questions?? Anyway, Kevin you should ask people to rate the podcast at the end of the podcast when they are likely to remember to :)

Papa_Pico619
Papa_Pico619

Is Carolyn petit trans gender? The feminist article she (he) wrote has me wondering. Of course there are other factors for my assumption.

pal_080
pal_080

Oh boy, that game review that turned into a food critique... how does a review like that get considered in Metacritic score?  You can't even call that a metaphor, just some terrible analogy, lol.

Great podcast though, Cevat Yerli made a great guest. 

Spitz6860
Spitz6860

 @Kevin-V

if you really wanted to put Yerli on the spot you could've asked him to explain the story transition between crysis 1 and 2... lol 

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

Also Congratulations @Tom McShea and I hope your wedding is perfect and see you at GDC :P

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

Oh please I like consoles because I don't have to worry about viruses affecting my gameplay or downloading the games to fill up my hard drive. Why isn't Maxwell reviewing Ninja Storm 3? I thought he was the fighting game expert, oh wait he must be on vacation then, he said so in a message. Good show though :)

jayd02
jayd02

I miss Mirrors Edge.  The game did look great but the guns didn't.  The cool thing about that though is I'm pretty sure they did that on purpose to try and get people to look away from the violence and run.

skytrot
skytrot

Agree with Cevat, Reviewers need to be objective. If you're gonna be reviewing a game, you can't let personal bias affect that review. There are many journalists guilty of that, some going as far as to give misinformation. (for eg. Game Informer saying that there is no dodge in Metal Gear Rising is just an outright lie, and that Vanquish can be completed in 4 hours or less.) Of course a person who hates stealth games is gonna hate stealth games no matter what just like a person who hates JRPGs is never gonna like JRPGs. Other examples include people criticizing a game for not following it's roots even though it is clearly a spin-off and criticizing a game because it is unlike another different game the developer has previously developed.

jayd02
jayd02

I think what Kojima was trying to get at is that too many developers use aliens and zombies today.  Kojima is probably thinking that it is getting tired and old.

puppeteer
puppeteer

The 1st Crysis I wasn't so sure of it. But once I started playing it grew on me. And people knocked Crysis 2 but I liked it. And So far I love Crysis 3 I think it's better than Crysis 2. To me the Crysis Trilogy holds up in my Favorite of all time. Mass Effect is in that list as well as HalfLife. Lots of respect for Cevat Yerli he really pushes games and is needed to keep things moving forward.

ExtremePhobia
ExtremePhobia

I understand what Cevat was trying to say... but it's from a very particular point of view and it seems like it's the point of view where companies are allowed to do what's best for them (which is why the game isn't made strictly for PC) but consumers aren't allowed to want to spend their money on something different. And Critics are doing the wrong thing for reflecting that position.

Consumers don't need to have realistic expectations. Some companies will figure out how to meet those expectations and gaming will move forward and the rest will die... unless they have a lot of money behind them.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

12:54 "I think the biggest jump... will be 1080P gaming .... people will not want to go back to 720P . That defiantly  going to be a tangible changer"

The jump form  720P to 1080P is NOTHING.  YES it looks better but when you are involved in a great game the graphics do not make a big difference.

GOOD GRAPHICS DOES NOT EQUAL A GOOD GAME!!!!!!    Photo-realism should not be the goal of a "INTERACTIVE game!!! The main goal of a great game is INTERACTION!!!! 

18:21  "I think the SINGLE most important noticeable difference will be 1080P and um that sounds sad because he platform can do so much more but the real, egoistic tangible difference is when I put the game in 1080P is the same difference when I put in my first Bluray movies in..."

Visuals have a wow moment, its wow until you play, and as long as it does not distract then its all about the interaction. GIVE me PS2 graphics but HUGE Advance in everything else... game mechanics, AI, Physics, level design and then WE will see NEXT GEN!!!!

Tixylixx
Tixylixx

I didn't like Crysis because I remember being disappointed with the visuals, they showed these trailers and the game didn't look any where near as good as them when it was released and I had a system that could play it on Very high at the time too. Also the story sucked, the characters were bland and the shooting felt like you were shooting enemies made from rubber as they soaked up too many bullets. For the last third of the game it was ruined completely with fighting the Aliens...

Crysis 2 was announced to having Richard Morgan writing the story and I was so hopeful but again the story sucked, the characters were bland and I just wonder if Crytek used his name for marketing only. The graphics seemed like a devolution, the textures were poor, it was linear and no DX11 option for a time when DX11 was common. The shooting was the same, enemies soaked up bullets and oh look Aliens again which weren't any fun to fight. 

Crysis 3 has come along and it's like the worst of the three because it is like Crytek has given up. The story is crap again, they really need to ditch it and start over, I don't know any one who cares about the characters or the story, it's so bland. The campaign was the shortest of them all, it had no amazing moments, just felt like some generic FPS that is only riding on the visuals. Again the shooting just felt bad because I hate how many bullets enemies soak up and how they react. Crysis is the only FPS series that feels this way and Crytek need to fix it. 


The worst thing of them all though is the multiplayer, it's never been good, just always some generic thing thrown on to add a feature to the box. Modders normally create the most interesting multiplayer modes, Crytek really need to run a competition for modders to make multiplayer for their games to bring some popularity to them. I've bought games purely for their multiplayer mods... BF1942 for DC mod, BF2 for PR, ArmaA2 for Dayz, Half-Life for CS, NS, TFC etc etc. Then there are games I stick around for simply because of amazing maps like those destruction maps in CS:S and all the surfing and glassfloor maps. 


Sadly no one is modding for Cry Engine, Crytek aren't building up the community to make their games popular. 

DARKKNIGHTPRABZ
DARKKNIGHTPRABZ

have to admit , played more crysis 3 campaign , and its begining to pick up ., i quite like it. so far

dabassplayer15
dabassplayer15

Cevat Yerli was a fantastic guest. Hey does Gamespot Gameplay accept user made quizzes? If we were to come up with a round and email it in is there any chance (provided it's good) you would use it?

johnnyauau
johnnyauau

I wonder what the podcast team is eating while talking in the studio? I don't want to sound like a mother but I'm sure, water is all they get in podcast.

DeadMemoie
DeadMemoie

OK , He is A techy guest and really cool for sure ,BUT , im not being offensive here and yes i bought the Crysis3 (and finished it) but after that the whole game in nothing but a graphically cranked up IGI with aliens on enemy side... thats it , the only innovation was (is) the nano suit (which is so-so for me) ,  so now we have the new ps4 in front of us with whole lot up upgrades thus NEXT-GEN. but look at the killzone4 its just a killzone (more like 2 to me) with batter graphics and huge sandbox missions nothing more , so whats with the next-gen part of it , ...

What im trying to say here is , we need next-gen game as well , hell if i had Cevat Yerli's team i could do (make) a lot better (Game) , something more like a series , more alive , more massive , i mean there are good series games out there (Gta , Mass effect , Metal gear [Except Rising] , AC ,Uncharted and so...) , and again why we couldnt make a FPS game with strong story elements and not just Running and Gunning (some sort of shoot and destroy [Hack&Slash]) ;) ,.... for me Crysis 3 ,... yes it is an AAA FPS  But its still a moving hand with large environment  tons of enemies a little cause to start a fire (Means : a not so good story) and basically 5 to 7 hours of game play , its fun but its not just there For me , in the world of entertainment there is 1 vital rule : ALWAYS GO CREATIVE AND NOT REPETITIVE (Any One Talks KOJIMA ;)

P.S : oh i forgot to mention , Crysis3 in pause menu Musics and generally MUSICs are awesome , too bad developers couldnt make good use of it  , LIKE MGS series does ;)

NTM23
NTM23

I like Cevat Yerli, but he's been pretty cocky lately it seems, though some of it is justified. I came into this thinking he'd have little to say, but it seems he had a lot to contribute. I don't want to say he's not smart, 'cause he is, but he sounded 'smarter' because of the contribution to conversations, even if you'd agree or disagree.

NTM23
NTM23

Huh. The taboo stuff you guys were coming up with wasn't stuff I had in mind, but I agree, it could be that. Right now, I'm playing through Peace Walker, and it seems like the character Amanda has a huge (though somewhat subtle) grudge against the U.S because of the past.

Granpire
Granpire

Man, I hated the dialogue I heard from Sly Cooper. I don't understand how someone can find that kind of contrived humour entertaining. It's mostly really forced irony...

Ladiesman17
Ladiesman17

@Kevin-V 

Kevin, I want to ask about soundtracks segment.

you should have give those people the answer choices, eg A, ​​B, C or D.

play guessing is a bad idea, those people are clueless. lol


MJ12-Conspiracy
MJ12-Conspiracy

Sorry about last weeks ill fated joke and sorry Gamespot Gameplay for calling you old, I didn't mean it. Seriously I love you so much :] we good?

Cevat Yerli was surprisingly cool....always a good show :]

faizanhd
faizanhd

Hideo Kojima obviously never played Manhunt.

faizanhd
faizanhd

I think Mr. Cevat Yerli should go back and analyze what made the original Crysis great.In my opinion it was the only good Crysis game. In fact Far Cry 3 gets the Crysis spirit better than Crysis 2 and 3.

Falzonn
Falzonn

There might be a nugget of truth in what Cevat means in regards to metacritic depreciation of sequels.  Perhaps critics and audiences may be overly critical of a sequal, even if said sequel improved upon the previous in all forms.  At the same time, there isn't anything inherently wrong with that viewpoint (I sometimes do it myself).  Gamers viewpoints ultimately change over time, and developers have to try and keep up with that.

  At some point gamers can get fatigued with a series or genre, and can no longer appreciate it as much as they might have previously.  That said, someone coming INTO a genre/series for the first time, unburdened with any familiarity or fatigue, might love a well made game for exactly what the game is, since no prior experience with a series can leave the overall experience as fresh, new, and exciting, instead of "I've done this before.  I want something different now."  In that regard, maybe Cevat is right.

  How far can one evolve their game before hitting a proverbial wall?  Is it the fault of hardware limitations?  Limitations of the expectations of a genre?  Expectations of a series?  Do people want a drastically different *insert game sequal here* experience, or do people want the same general thing, but just improved upon more, even if they don't always know what new 'thing' it is they want.  It can be risky to mess with a formula.  I cannot judge how much affect hardware has on limiting a developers ability to both evolve their game while keeping it a little familiar and within the scope of the franchise (I'm not a developer obvously), so maybe there were things Crysis 3 wanted to do that might have allowed 3 to feel fresher.  Or maybe they underestimated peoples desire for a slightly different experience this time around.

  In the end though, I can agree that Metacritic is by no means perfect, and while publishers might unfairly use Metaritic aggregate scores in their contracts with developers, Metacritic is, usually (barring incompetent reviewers) a good rough estimate of what gamers want and like.  Your game might technically be better than the others you've made before, but if it's not quite what gamers wanted, perhaps it might be time to do something different.  A risky proposition sometimes.

Accuracy158
Accuracy158

Sorry Cevat, I beat the game on my first try in just under 5 hours (normal difficulty).  But I certainly agree that Crysis 3 is better than Crysis 2.

Granpire
Granpire

Please, can downloading be made easier? Like a direct link, for instance?

Downloading from my Android phone is such a massive pain.

I'd explain the process, but it's basically that Soundcloud Mobile doesn't support downloads. Outrageous, of course, but it takes me about five minutes just to get to the download button.

DeadMemoie
DeadMemoie

@Spitz6860  Dude , the story from Crysis 1 -----> (to) crysis 2 is more straight than Crysis 2---> Crysis 3 , i mean what the hell was happening between 2 and 3 sets !!!! at the final moment of crysis 2 our guy (Alcatraz) said : they Call Me Prophet ..!!! (finally now we know that he got a tongue) and then game ended here (on a Moving , hovering piece of park in the sky!!!) ... and now when crysis 3 begins he is Offline (somehow) in the space Hovering !!!!! what has happened since the second settlements END?!?!?! "a BIG Q Mark"

FreedomPrime
FreedomPrime

@g1rldraco7 Nah f$%k him, I hope his plane crashes and he burns to death, his opinion that i don't agree with warrants this kind of fate. JK. have a great time. I still hate you..... <3

puppeteer
puppeteer

@Ravenlore_basic He wasn't saying graphics make the game . And  1920x1080 compared to 1280x720 is a major difference! While graphics don't make a game it is a major contributing factor to being deeply connected to the game your playing.

CVGrunning real time has been the goal of developers since 3d games hit the market. That is the holy grail of gaming next to better AI. The basic 3 things we as humans use for connection is sight , sound and touch. I didn't forget smell;-)

CageFury
CageFury

@DARKKNIGHTPRABZ 

Easily the best campaign out of the 3 IMO, except for maybe the first half of the first game. 3's graphics, story, and presentation walk all over the other 2's.

Lord_Python1049
Lord_Python1049

@dabassplayer15 they said you can in the podcast I believe, just send Kevin a message with Gamespot Gameplay in the heading. I remember they have used user sent quizzes too. :) 

carolynmichelle
carolynmichelle moderator staff

@Ladiesman17 Enh, this happened to be a particularly tough week. Normally we at least manage to get some of 'em.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@MJ12-Conspiracy It's OK--we love you! Besides, you know what conspiracies are really for: aliens and shadow governments, not video game critics! ;)

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@faizanhdIt's interesting to me: when people talk about how open Crysis is, they seem to forget an entire half of that game. The second half of that game is quite linear, and not much like the first half. 

CP2077
CP2077

@faizanhd yeah I agree the gameplay in Crysis one was better and the game was longer the environments were large.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@Falzonn I always see the evolution of The Witcher 2 over the Witcher as a great example of a series that evolved in a way that avoided potential fatigue. Graphics aside, The Witcher 2 retains the essence of the original but scrapped entire systems and started over: combat, player progression, potions, and so on. It was gorgeous, sure, but more importantly, it wasn't just a prettier version of what came before, or a "fixed" version. 

Assassin's Creed retains many of the same elements from game to game, but each game takes real chances and reimagines major systems from game to game. Not every chance succeeds, but it's one reason why I still look forward to each AC game. 

From my perspective, I think Cevat is limiting himself in certain ways as much as the technology is. I think it actually is possible to retain the spirit of a series and still make each game feel fresh. 

I also think there's no escaping that a yearly entry in a franchise is tiresome. It killed Guitar Hero, and it's what caused the Call of Duty franchise to go from widely appreciated to widely derided. Sometimes, if you want to avoid fatigue, you have to let your franchise breathe. I think if we had a new GTA every year, people wouldn't be as excited for GTAV as they are, for instance. Rockstar is smart--and they also make other games (Red Dead, for instance) to keep their creative juices flowing. 

CP2077
CP2077

@Falzonn from my point of view Crysis 2 was not anyway better then Crysis 1 or warhead in some ways it was a step back Crysis one had some vary large environments that I didn't see in Crysis 2 and I'm not going to give Crysis 3 my money it just sounds like its short on game play to me 5 to 8 hours is to short to spend $60 on I wont play the MP much so the SP needs to have at least a week of game play for me. I will buy it when go's on sale if i dont have to use origin I only use Steam, GOG and greenman gameing

Accuracy158
Accuracy158

All in all though I really enjoyed Cevat Yerli's input.  He brought some interesting and well educated points.  I was really interested in most things he had to say.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@Granpire That's what the RSS link is for. You can download from there directly, or even better, use the podcast app of your choice to download it automatically every week.

DeadMemoie
DeadMemoie

@megaspiderweb09 @DeadMemoie  

Oh , yes bro  , i played (and finished) them both they are better if not the best of FPS for current -gen but still not so creative we need something more i personally enjoyed Deus Ex :HR so much that i played it 3 times , story , game play , graphics , sound game mechanics and so on was good except the music... THAT were AWESOME ;) and FarCy3 is pretty fun i like it but still so classic to be count as something new ;) THANKS.

CP2077
CP2077

@Kevin-V @Falzonn I cant get into assassins creed games after 2 didn't care for the story line was a main part of it and the other thing was that the game is way to easy I want a challenge and good story. assassins creed games have some good art direction thats about all I see in them the game play has the potential to be fun. but without a real challenge I get bored.

Granpire
Granpire

@Kevin-V @Granpire Even downloading from this page involves clicking on the Soundcloud link, which might not be apparent to many listeners.

Granpire
Granpire

@Kevin-V @Granpire Huh. I've been subscribed since the beginning, but I guess I'd always just clicked the link in my Google Reader plugin, which didn't show the MP3 content.

Still, it would be nice if that download link could be included on the main page as well. I see no reason why it shouldn't be there.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@NTM23 @Kevin-V Totally agreed. I love both halves of Crysis, but I always think it's interesting that when people talk about how sandboxy and open Crysis was, they are only remembering part of the game, and conveniently forgetting the big parts that weren't at all open.