GameSpot GamePlay Episode 30: The Beefy Center of your Meat Arsenal

A Valley Without Wind 2 developer Chris Park joins us to discuss the PlayStation 4, our fondest memories of 1UP and GameSpy, and the emotional weight of hot dogs.

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 30: The Beefy Center of your Meat Arsenal

Chris Park at Arcen Games knows a lot about making games, having made a number of them himself. He shares his thoughts on the PlayStation 4 hardware, the future of console indie development, and his favorite episode of Blue's Clues. Host Kevin VanOrd chimes in on the deliciousness of dog biscuits; Tom Mc Shea forgets that Wonder Woman isn't real; Shaun McInnis explains the charms of Geodude; and Chris Watters muses on the personal pleasures of modern teleprompters.

We also honor beloved publications 1UP and GameSpy, as well as our friends at IGN. It was a hard week for our colleagues, and we salute them.

You can access all previous episodes on GameSpot here.

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 29: Eat My Dead Skin

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 28: Occupy Animal Crossing

GameSpot GamePlay Special Edition Spoilercast: Ni no Kuni

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 27: Vibrate Your Molecules

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 26: The Soup is a Problem

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 25: Tap Tap-a-Roo

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 24: Rubbing the Cow Gently

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83 comments
bernstein1986
bernstein1986

LOL @ Chris Waters - "look how old this old man face looks"

bernstein1986
bernstein1986

In regard to Diablo III, I agree with Shaun. I'm one of those people who didn't have a PC to play Diablo III, so the idea of it coming to console is really exciting for me.

Disturbed_88
Disturbed_88

On a slightly funny note: "You know" was the most popular phrase of the show! :P

jocaju
jocaju

First time listener here and thought it was great. Keep up the good work.

JamesThePrince
JamesThePrince

I don't need to read anything about ps4! It's awesome enuff for meh :) 

Vitex2003
Vitex2003

PS4 will be amazing and that it will be using AMD processors this is welcome and understandable.

jayd02
jayd02

Kevin it says that you write music, did you happen to write the music for this show?  I don't know why I haven't brought this up before?

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

To those requesting that the podcast be added to Stitcher, I resubmitted today; the last time I submitted didn't produce any results, and I didn't receive any response. Let's hope the second submission gets us somewhere!

ClaudiusCaesar
ClaudiusCaesar

I think I heard more the word "Halo" than "PS4" in this podcast. All right, this is XboxSpot podcast.

jayd02
jayd02

I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who was pissed at Square Enix

jayd02
jayd02

Microsoft conference: He is the Kinect 2!!! (for an hour) He is music artist who will dance on the stage for you!!! The End.

Double-Ego
Double-Ego

Thought the ps4 was going to have an APU + dedicated GPU instead of having just an APU?

sabresieben
sabresieben

I'll show you the beefy center of my meat arsenal.

robfield
robfield

I haven't listened to the podcast in some time because I do not like the format and was hoping for some changes. After listening to this episode it seems none of those changes seem to be on the horizon. I assume many other people like the podcast so just consider this one opinion among many.

1) Is the podcast really going to be called "Gameplay"? That is the least creative gaming podcast name possible and I thought it was temporary. HotSpot was such a better name.

2) The trivia portion of the podcast is still tough to listen to and I find myself skipping through it. At least half of the podcast seems like the hosts floundering as they provide joke answers to trivia questions they do not know the answer to. This is especially bad with the music questions. The podcast is probably just trying to be different, but that is one thing I think does not work. The ESRB and game description questions usually turn out okay, but the rest I do not like.

3) I do like that the show regularly has guests from different parts of the industry. It adds a dynamic perspective for the episode. You should keep that part if you can.

anne_1230
anne_1230

Another great episode! Chris was a great guest, very knowledgeable and gave some great insights. Thanks for having him!

I gotta say, Kevin really seem to know what games Tom play...kinda a running theme now that Tom will always ask "is this a game I have played" on the quizzes and Kevin will have the answer for sure. Disadvantage for other quiz participants! :P

skytrot
skytrot

Wow no mention of deep down and the Panta Rhei by Capcom? Easily the best game of the conference that isn't a known entity. Everything else was already expected.

Accuracy158
Accuracy158

WHat the f### is a Shakespeare... and none of them knew!!!!!!!!   I've played KZ1 SOOO MANY times.   I can still repeat the intro by heart.

Falzonn
Falzonn

Hey Arcen games!  Cool to see them on.  I haven't played either Valley Without Wind games, but Ai War is one of the best real-time strategy games I've ever played.  It's fantastic because it's so different from all the other standard RTS styles I've long since gotten bored of.  Large scale rts combat (ala Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander), with 4x ( ala Sins of a Solar Empire, Star Ruler) strategy overlay, and tower defency (enemy waves) elements thrown as well?  I'm not sure there even IS anything else like it (if there is, someone let me know!).  It certainly helps that the difficult Ai (and how the game was designed around them) is done so well that to actually complete an 80 planet, 7 hour game without getting horribly crushed feels like an achievement.  

In fact, I had to interrupt this podcast 1/2 way through to finish my Ai War game with 2 friends.  Took 9 hours total, but we won.  Went up against the Backdoor Hacker & Mine Enthusiast Ai's on 7.3 difficulty.  Went surprisingly easier than I thought it would.  We might have to bump it up to 8 next time.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

Bone shaped dog biscuits, nice one Kevin.

Slim_Lyrics
Slim_Lyrics

The funniest part of this whole podcast was at the 40:01 mark. Yeah Tom, of course you "love" infamous. So much so that you butchered infamous 2 in your review. After Toms remark i was expecting Kevin to follow up by saying how much he adored RE6.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@jocaju Thanks so much! I hope you'll keep tuning in. The show usually hits on Tuesdays, but we were late this week because of the holiday, and then everything happening at once!

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@jayd02 Nah--I wish I had! This music is from a library of music we subscribe to. It's called Wind Farm.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@ClaudiusCaesar What are you talking about? That's just silly. 

I pose the question: Where does this kind of ridiculous statement come from? A podcast with over an hour devoted to the PlayStation 4, in which the panelists spend time praising Killzone 2/3, Infamous, and so on--and somebody jumps in to say we talked at length about Halo?? If I recall correctly, Halo was only mentioned as a guess for part of the soundtrack quiz, unless it got briefly namedropped when Destiny came up. 

Pardon for taking the moment to rant, but I just can't fathom things like this. Do people create lies like this knowing it's a lie, in order to perpetuate silly system wars? Do they hear one mention of Halo, and their minds turn it into a podcast-wide theme? Do they really believe these things they type?

I humbly ask the participants of the system wars, the people that type things like this regardless of whether or not they resemble anything close to truth: is it part of the system wars roleplay, or does it reach the point where people believe in the war so much that reality slips away and you begin to believe the words? Comments like this are so far outside of my realm of understanding that I want to understand better. Is this just trolling for the sake of entertainment, or does it come from a different emotional place?

TomMcShea
TomMcShea moderator

@jayd02 I hope they put a sword through Rare's heart once and for all. This slow death is agonizing.

CP2077
CP2077

@Double-Ego t has a AMD x84 CPU and a dedicated GPU  and 8GB or GDDR5 I think the hard drive is 500GB. there is also a chip set up for downloading so it wont use any of system resources if you deiced to play games and download at the same time.

TomMcShea
TomMcShea moderator

@robfield Thanks for the feedback. I agree with your first and third points. It's too late to change the name now, though. Sadly, when Kevin asked for ideas, I kept coming up with awful ideas. "Ghost of the Round Table" may have been offered repeatedly, and I think I suggested a few opium-themed options as well. I have no idea what. So, we're kind of stuck with Gameplay at this point.


As for quizzes. I like having them in there, and we've generally gotten good feedback, so I think that will stay as well Do you have any suggestions for how to improve that? What makes ESRB Ratings Theater more enjoyable than other portions?

TomMcShea
TomMcShea moderator

@anne_1230 It's a game within a game! See if you can guess what games I've played! Win no prizes!

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@skytrot Yeah, I completely forgot to bring it up. I'm with Tom: I think Deep Down will be the next-gen Dragon's Dogma. 

TomMcShea
TomMcShea moderator

@skytrot Gah! What a terrible oversight. Kevin and I believe this will turn out to be Dragon's Dogma 2. Crossing my fingers!

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@Falzonn You make me want to play it... that sounds awesome.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@DiamondDM13 They were shaped liked bunnies! And they smelled delicious. :) There has been no better time to be a dog, I'm sure of it!

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@Slim_Lyrics Saying a game is very good is butchering? Infamous 2 and RE6 were night and day--poor versus good. Your comment doesn't make any sense. In any case, Tom gave Infamous a 9; that game was awesome. Is a 9 butchering, too? :/

TomMcShea
TomMcShea moderator

@Slim_Lyrics You should reread my Infamous review. One of the best open-world games I've ever played.

ClaudiusCaesar
ClaudiusCaesar

@Kevin-V

Well, this was the first time I've listen to this podcast, trying to get a different view of the PS4 event. It was weak. It was unenthusiastic, for something that was a BIG deal (7 years since the last console reveal).

Also, the podcast should have the Gamespot's Playstation, Xbox and impartial editors. But, looks like Gamespot wants to give the impression that ALL editors are impartial and do NOT have preferences. That's unreal. I would have no problem hearing from the Xbox Editor "I was not impressed by the PS4" or few Halo mentions. But, trying to appear impartial and you are not, that is just VERY POOR journalism.

My advice to Gamespot is: be TRANSPARENT about where is the bias. If not, you all will just sound like fake people - and that was my impression.

So, I ask you, what's your prefer platform. If you say it's Xbox, please, change your title to Xbox Editor or, at least, next time, when you are going to talk about PS, say "as a Xbox fan".

By the way, take the opportunity to explain to everybody what's the deal between GameSpot and MS in order to GameSpot get an app on the Xbox Live. That just doesn't look good.

Again, be TRANSPARENT, or you guys will sound like a bunch of PR people. Until there, GameSpot will here from me. Good night.

Double-Ego
Double-Ego

@CP2077 Thx for the info. On the podcast they made it sound like it only had an APU (gpu integrated within the cpu)  and no dedicated GPU.

So thanks for clearing it up for me.

robfield
robfield

@TomMcShea @robfield  

The ESRB ratings and game descriptions are fun to listen to because they joke about the descriptions themselves.

For the other trivia there is nothing to make fun of. For example, consider episode 30's trivia question about quotes from Braid that begins around 21:00 and ends around 29:00. For approximately 8 minutes Van Ord asked the co-hosts to finish the unfunny non-contextual quotes. During that time the hosts spouted out multiple answers. For most of the answers they seemed genuinely unaware of what to say so they made up joke answers instead of actually trying to answer.

 The waste of time during the music sections is obvious. There is nothing to say there except, "I know this song" or "I do not know this song", but there is a lot of time spent just guessing.

I may be in the minority here but I prefer a fun but concise podcast where the hosts do not spend so much time discussing things of little value.

To summarize: The ESRB trivia makes me think, "These ESRB descriptions are silly and fun" because the focus is on the description. The music and trivia makes me think, "Just move on already" because the focus is on guessing answers.

Slim_Lyrics
Slim_Lyrics

@Kevin-V I felt  Tom butchered Infamous 2 because he made criticism about the game that i felt did not make sense. One such critique was the  visual blur effects that indicate when damage is being taken. Tom claimed those effects were lasted too long and were unavoidable. This was untrue since a simple tap of the R2 button near an electrical port recharged Coles powers and almost instantly removed the visual blurs. This is just one of the many issues he brought up in his review that i felt were unfair. I especially annoyed when he considered Infamous 1 as the superior of the two, which i wholeheartedly disagree. The review was two years ago and i had mostly gotten over it until Tom mentioned his love for the series in this podcast. I just felt that it felt a bit hypocritical after what i felt was an unfair review of Infamous. But then again that's probably the fanboy in me raging out.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

@Kevin-V You've been nearly crucified for the 4.5 in RE6. I've put almost 200 hours into the game, and I still consider the game way better than a 4.5. Not to say it has no faults, in fact it should have received the same score as inFamous 2, but it's each ones opinion. I gotta admit that the QTE's abundance make me rage at times, but I find the controls to be actually pretty good for me. (I'm not a Shooter fan, so I don't know how they compare to other shooters, but in the game, they get the job done very well.) The camera though, could be better, specially when it's locked to a door or object, that's just not right.

It's not a Resident Evil game in my perspective, and in that why I can play and enjoy it, because the focus on shooter parts are just not RE like. Still very fun to play as a game on it's own, and specially when playing co-op.

(Oh, and I know it might not interest, but the game did get some free patches that actually improve it, in case you find the interest to test it again and enjoy)

Slim_Lyrics
Slim_Lyrics

@TomMcShea @Slim_Lyrics I have nothing against you Tom, i respect your opinions as a professional journalist (i especially loved the way you ripped Danger Close for their "realism" bullshit last year). But i really think your review of Infamous 2 was unfair, especially when you claimed the first was superior to the second. Hearing you mention how much you loved the franchise in this podcast brought back memories of that review and the frustration in me that were borne from it. Again i know it was your opinion and i completely respect that.

ClaudiusCaesar
ClaudiusCaesar

@TomMcShea @Kevin-V 

P.S. Don't worry guys, I'll not be on GS all the time. I'll not spoil GS's desire to please its majority audience: Xbox fans. Cheers!

ClaudiusCaesar
ClaudiusCaesar

@Falzonn I don't know any GS's editors preferences (well, now I know about Tom's), because they don't say it. But, I believe that GS prefer Xbox. Having said that, my conclusion is that the majority of GS's editors prefer Xbox, where words like "Halo" are predominant. Also, if you can do a Spoilcast about one single game (as done before) but not about a new game console reveal, which happens very rarely, WOW, that shows bias.

ClaudiusCaesar
ClaudiusCaesar

@TomMcShea @Kevin-V Good for you. Sounds like you can talk about your preferences openly. I guess that will not be possible for the majority of the GameSpot's editors, since they prefer Xbox (as long they don't speak out, I can make my own conclusions). That would damage the "impartial" image that GameSpot wants to sell. The editors don't need to be formally attached to one platform, but, as editors, they need to disclose their preferences, so readers could know where that opinion comes from. Because, when you hide your preferences, one could wonder if the reason for that is to deceive people.

TomMcShea
TomMcShea moderator

@ClaudiusCaesar @Kevin-V The reason my colleagues and I entered this industry in the first place is that we love video games. We all have our preferences, but when we sit down with a controller to relax at the end of a long day, we play games, not systems. I would hate to be relegated to one console manufacturer during my working hours considering I cycle between all three (along with my PC) when I'm off the clock.

Falzonn
Falzonn

@ClaudiusCaesar@Kevin-V  Sure, that kind of bias & corruption you lament exists somewhere, but to think it exists to the extent that a GS editor needs to spell all their 'biases' (a better term is preferences) out in a podcast which in no way shape or form came even remotely close to being a 'XboxSpot podcast' is bordering tinfoil hat territory.  If you read/watch an editors works, it's easy to tell how an editor thinks.  Go read up on Tom McShea's stuff.  He's extremely transparent.

Also, one press conference on the PS4 deserves a full on PS4 Spoilercast?  How about waiting until E3 at least, so the podcast won't be filled with as much speculation, guesswork & dead air?


ClaudiusCaesar
ClaudiusCaesar

@Kevin-V First mistake, GameSpot doesn't have platform editors. Unless GameSpot's editors are superhuman that don't have NATURAL preference or bias you are just kidding yourself. Now, that's make sense to you, or do you forget that when you stop playing games you come back to the REAL world. So, once again, what's your prefer platform?

Second mistake, I don't expect that someone that prefers one platform will always questioning or dislike the others. But, he will always have a bias toward them. There is no shame on that, that's how the HUMAN mind works. But if you say, "ALL editors here have NO bias", or your are naive or you want to deceive people. I don't think you guys are naive.

Third mistake, if you sometimes have "spoilercast" devote to one subject, and a announcement of a new console after 7/8 years is not enough for that, wow.

Fourth, for someone that doesn't work on the marketing and sales, you have a lot to say about that deal between GameSpot and MS. I have no prove that there is something under the table between them. But, also, you cannot prove there ISN'T. We are talking about corporations, that most of them are corrupt (when their only goal is to make money), or do you still living in the game world.

Go ahead, keep like that. Most your audience are young inexperienced people. They will not realize that. Good luck!

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@ClaudiusCaesar We don't have PlayStation/Xbox editors. We never have; we have editors. Why is that unreal? You make no sense.

 Is praising one aspect of something and questioning another bias? Based on your writing here, anything but an enormous panel of people fawning over the PS4 would be the only way to show a lack of bias. If you read my piece on the reveal, by the way, you would know that I felt very positive about the reveal. In fact, had you listened to my words on this very podcast, you would know that. 

Furthermore, this podcast is weekly. It devoted much time to the PS4 because that was the week's biggest news, but this podcast was not created to talk about one subject. Each week, we discuss the news, and we have quizzes. Only when you see a podcast called "spoilercast" do we devote an episode to one subject. This was a standard podcast episode in which we discussed two major news stories, and conducted our usual quizzes.

I don't know anything about the agreements that lead to Xbox Live apps; the editorial team is separate from marketing and sales. (Did you know that businesses seek to have a presence is any many places as possible, and that Internet publications require advertising to exist? KNOWLEDGE BOMB!) But you will notice that IGN's content appears all over the XBL storefront (it is much more prevalent than ours), because Microsoft has a process in place. As I am sure you are aware, PSN does not have that kind of ecosystem; all you have to do is log into the PSN Store to know that. Sony itself acknowledges that it is a missed opportunity. (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/02/sony-exec-talks-ps-app-store-ps3-game-portability-amd-chips-and-more/)

If there was a cost-effective opportunity for such an app, don't you suppose we would pursue it? GameSpot wants its presence in as many places as possible.

Conspiracies are fun, but they are made up in your head. 

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

@Kevin-V @DiamondDM13 True, it's just many people didn't expect that low score considering we don't find it bad (those who enjoy it expect a 6 in the least...).

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@DiamondDM13 @Kevin-V I am glad you enjoy it! I suppose some have crucified me, though others have thanked me and agreed with me. I'm ok with that; I wrote my honest feelings about the game. Just because I dislike a game doesn't mean I don't want others to have fun! In fact, all the better: if you are enjoying it, then it isn't money wasted. I hate to think of people spending time or money on something that they ultimately hate.