Gamers caught with PS3 hacks face PSN ban

Sony officially responds to new "unauthorized software" released by hackers, says those caught using it will have access to PSN "terminated permanently."

Sony has responded to the new PlayStation 3 hack that was revealed late last month. The company said in a statement that this "unauthorized software" is a violation of Sony's terms of service and added that users caught running it face the possibility of a steep penalty.

Those found running unauthorized or pirated software will have access to PlayStation Network and Sony Entertainment Network services through the PS3 "terminated permanently," Sony said.

"To avoid permanent termination, consumers must immediately cease using and delete all unauthorized or pirated software from their PlayStation 3 systems," the statement continues.

Sony defended this penalty, saying that it was borne of a desire to foster a "safe" and "fair" online environment for PS3 users.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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8 comments
hax_1337
hax_1337

What does "terminated permanently" even mean?  If they IP ban, then we'll use a proxy, (or have been already).  If Sony bans a PSN account, we will make a new PSN account, (or have been using a different one already).  They can't stop us. 

BH14
BH14

Hackers are really poor or the biggest cheap skates in the world. They refuse to spend a penny and want everything for free. New games cost like $30-50. Wait a couple months and they are even cheaper. You could buy used games for $15. Nintendo games from like 2 decades ago were more than PS3 games.

tgwolf
tgwolf

Good. Excellent. More power to you in this war against cyber scumbags.

Pereb27
Pereb27

Considering Sony hasn't bothered to fix that incredibly stupid bug that allows banned consoles to get on PSN easily by simply masking their console ID since modders started doing that in freaking 2010, they have zero credibility.

dizzyrhino
dizzyrhino

At long last I could enjoy Fight Night Champion in peace

Flipmode220
Flipmode220

sucks being wrong doesn't it 707107 sheesh lol lol

 

707107
707107

Really people, If you wan't to mod a system buy a pc.

sheesh

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

Wait if they actually care about using psn which anyone with a modded ps 3 won't they are hardly going to go online with a modded console if they do care about psn.

Flipmode220
Flipmode220

I have a modded PS3 with over 150 games on a 3tb external......Who cares about PSN.....There isn't one sony game I would want to play online....It's my system....I can do what i want with it.....Your security is horrible sony.....that's your own fault :)

uncagedpaul_86
uncagedpaul_86

No sympathy for those who get caught hacking. Nothing good comes from it. You only piss off the rest of the online community who enjoy online games  

nurnberg
nurnberg

Good job!  PSN hackers need to be dealt with harshly!

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

Sounds like the Call of Duty lobbies are about to be a whole lot more roomier.

mav_destroyer
mav_destroyer

If you hack your PS3 console you will get banned.

 

In other news, if you push the power button your PS3 will switch on and stuffs...

Kyrylo
Kyrylo

can somebody tell me if custom themes are also fallen under these categories or only hacks? 

DarthLod
DarthLod

Yes, because modding your PS3 to have a wallpaper slide show of your OWN making is a criminal act. Or modding your PS3 to remove the excess rubbish you don't use or want cluttering up your dashboard is a horrible crime. I was under the assumption I paid for my console and it was MINE.

KillzoneSnake
KillzoneSnake

Go Sony! The best place to play online without hacks is the PS3 ^_^

tightwad34
tightwad34

So how do I know if I am accidentally downloading pirated software? I sure hope it would be blatantly obvious. If the shit did hit the fan, then I would be in a lawsuit with Sony and I think we all know who would win.

Syxx8psycho
Syxx8psycho

IMO, Sony can suck the cheese from betwixt my hairy toes. All they have done to the PS3 consoles since launch was remove features that we've paid for, Other OS AND BC. The removal of the Other OS feature was so Sony could save a few $. The "HACKING" started mainly to bring back this feature. So think of it this way, in 2006 you spent over $500 on your console, Sony takes away a feature that many in the computing world including myself use. Did Sony give us a partial refund on our purchase???? NOPE. Did anyone get a price cut when they stopped making BC consoles??? NOPE. Did Sony have sufficient security to stop the MILLIONS OF PSN ACCOUNT DATA from being stolen from their outdated plain text file, servers??? NOPE.  DO YOU OWN YOUR PS3 CONSOLE?????? According to the past few TOS (Term of Service) agreements, YOU ONLY OWN A LICENCE TO USE THE PS3 CONSOLE. SONY OWNS IT, NOT YOU. If they wanted to, they could knock on your door and take the system away for whatever reason they would like to spew at you. People talk so much crap" hackers this and hackers that", do any of you know what a hacker is?? 10 to 1 odds say half of you have no clue. Who would you crucify: a man that brings back features to a console that he bought in a store with his hard earned money, or a corporation that jeopardizes your personal information, LEASES A CONSOLE TO YOU, and then takes away features that helped you to decide to buy that $600 console? Not all CFW users are cheaters, but big bad SONY has cheated about 99% of us of free will to do what we want with our console, cheated us out of the security in knowing that our PSN account data (which includes Name, email add, credit card info) would be safe, and mostly CHEATED US OUT OF WHAT WE LEGALLY PURCHASED WITH OUR MONEY (if you agreed the the past few TOS agreements that have been included in system updates that is............................. which I have not agreed to) I own my ps3, do you lol.......

Kit_Sakurazuka
Kit_Sakurazuka

 @BH14  Used games? You do realize that from the developer/publisher's standpoint, buying a used copy is no better than pirating one? That's why there's all this kerfluffle lately with online passes (Which I strongly support. *I* don't buy used OR rent games; if I actually like a game enough to bother spending money on it, I want my sale to count).

 

There are also good reasons for hacking beyond 'lawl free games!' Most systems other than the PS3 require modification of some sort in order to play imports, and some publishers just refuse to release games without egregious edits or with the original voice-overs intact, so undubs or versions with censorship removed become necessary.

 

Personally, I quite like importing, so if someone comes up with a hack that'll let me play NA, JP and AS region games on my Vita without needing to own three different memory cards and reformat the entire system every time I want to switch, I'll be the first on the bandwagon.

Team-Dragoon
Team-Dragoon

@mav_destroyer Oh really? Tell me how I haven't gotten banned yet please. I've had my PS3 jailbroken since firmware 3.55 ( January 2011).

funny16
funny16

 @DarthLod

 You must have just been born last deacde or something. You own the hardwhere. The softwhere is lisensed to you. That goes for anything that exsists in digital form.

mav_destroyer
mav_destroyer

 @DarthLod Is it!

 

Sony is being a control freak and it appears there's no one who cares to put them in line, so they just do whatever they want. This issue was at the core of the face off between Sony and Anon before the PSN hack.

Syxx8psycho
Syxx8psycho

 @tightwad34 If you download anything off the internet, its piracy. If you backup copies of games you've purchased then you're ok. You can legally make backups of games you own.Depending on where you live, laws may vary so you may wanna look online for more info about that.

Xvault77
Xvault77

 @Syxx8psycho You are an imbecile btw. Yes Sony could come to our doors and have the system taken from us if they wanted? Yeahhhh because they would right? Wait, that definitely makes sense. Sorry if some of your features were taken away. Get over it. Most ps3 users/owners do not care or have it even affect us in any way really. Because of "hackers" it cost us 2 months or so of online gaming and such, so that hurt us gamers. All hackers are ridiculous and please, please do not act like some kind od damn martyr because you are not. How about you leave the Sony gaming community alone and bother Microsoft or someone else instead of whining and complaining and acting like they stole a part of your life. Plain and simple, if you don't or didn't agree with it, move on and never bother with their product/products ever again. Nothing good really comes from all the BS that your "hacking" and self righteous ambitions or trying to be the ones in control.

Flipmode220
Flipmode220

 @707107 or Metal Gear Solid.....or madden or.......I could go on and on...I have a sick PC.....and I'm glad I have a hacked PS3 (not modded btw).......get your facts straight :)

 

Team-Dragoon
Team-Dragoon

@JanCarl0 @Flipmode220 Your PS3 needs to be on firmware 3.55 to be able to jailbreak your system. If it's not on that firmware or below it, your only other option is to buy an E3 mod chip and solder it onto your PS3.

(Or buy a used PS3 on firmware 3.55 or below)

mav_destroyer
mav_destroyer

@Team-Dragoon @mav_destroyer You're missing the point, I'm making fun of the article's title.

But if your not being banned is bothering you THAT much you should send an email to Sony, I'm sure they'll sort it out for you right away ;)

Double_Wide
Double_Wide

 @funny16  @DarthLod

 Exactly! Just play your PS3 and stop whinning. You know gaming still was fun once upon a time ago when modding was simplistic and online wasn't any option.

tightwad34
tightwad34

 @Syxx8psycho

 That really doesn't sound right at all.  So the world wide web, with damn near everything imaginable, is off limits to downloading everything it has to offer? Unless you risk some sort of punishment. Maybe I read your response wrong, but the way it looks to me is not right.

Syxx8psycho
Syxx8psycho

 @tightwad34 And not to sound like an a$$, but how could you "accidentally" download something? Unless its a virus thats infecting your pc, I dont think you can accidentally download anything.

bwvictorious
bwvictorious

 @Xvault77  @Syxx8psycho

Nobody is hacking their ps3 to have linux back and nobody is doing backups of their games.

Thats all empty excuses to pirate games.You dont want to pay for it, you dont get to play it. Wait a few months and you can get it 2nd hand and or discounted. Rent it on Lovefilm/blockbuster (are there still blockbusters?). Plenty of ways of doing it.Piracy is not a requirement, its a choice.

JimmeyBurrows
JimmeyBurrows

 @tightwad34  @Syxx8psycho If the copyright isn't in the name of the site you're downloading it from then it's generally not something you should be downloading... If it's a free game that currently costs money everywhere else, it's almost definately pirated.

If you're downloading from the PSN it's fine... Lets be honest there's nothing much other than pictures and music worth downloading onto the PS3 from anywhere other than the PSN... Legallly.

tightwad34
tightwad34

 @Syxx8psycho

 No, I mean if I am downloading something on purpose, how will I know if it's pirated? Is there something to indicate it? Or should I know because it seems shady? I was wondering if there is an obvious way to tell the differnce between pirated and legit software.

bwvictorious
bwvictorious

 @funny16  @Syxx8psycho  @Xvault77  @Space_Paranoids Yup... check Microsofts, Nintendo and Steam... all you have is a license to use them.European courts are demanding the right to sell that license but honestly... why bother, Focus instead on demanding smaller prices for digital only games.

funny16
funny16

 @Syxx8psycho  @Xvault77  @Space_Paranoids

 

This should be common knowledge by now for everybody. Software is licensed to you. That goes for anything that exsists in digital form.  You don't own any of it and never have.

Space_Paranoids
Space_Paranoids

Yeah, for the record, by hacking I mean such as; running Linux on your PS3 and making a video of it to show off your accomplishment or making your own little homebrew demo projects to maybe show off a cool new capabilityor feature for the community (as was mentioned). Maybe someone at Sony will see it and be like "cool, never thought of that way, gives me some ideas." Microsoft held a contest for hacking the Kinect and look at the great things everyone came up with...As long as it harms no one in the process or doesn't affect anyone else's enjoyment in any way, shape or form, I'm completely for it. I have a friend who has a second computer and he puts viruses on it just try to figure them out and remove them for fun (we data center guys are weird). All in al,l I honestly think companies would not care even half as much over tinkering around with their equipment, it's just a few bad apples ruining for everyone and kids thinking they are cool because they can copy and paste something on a flash drive.

Syxx8psycho
Syxx8psycho

 @Xvault77  @Space_Paranoids I agree with you here, if you mod your console or games to give yourself an advantage in some way then stay away from those who play legit. Im all for fair play. But Sony hides behind the excuse of piracy to condone their actions ie, if you agreed to any of the past two years of their TOS, you waived your right for a class action lawsuit, even if you have proof that your personal info was used due to the lack of security on their servers. Any honest corporation would never try to hide and cover their a$$es with TOS agreements that make you waive your civil rights. Thats morally wrong. The US Military uses PS3 consoles clustered together to perform massive calculations, as well as some universities. And Im willing to bet my right arm that the consoles being used for those tasks arent running the latest 4.31 fw that was released. Ive written a few aps that I run on my yellow dog linux ps3, Ive made my own homebrew versions of NES and PS1 titles. Yeah I have several computers that I can easily load red hat or yd linux, but why should I limit my knowledge to pc platforms? Ive been gaming since I could hold a joystick, Ive storyboarded a few titles that Ive thought up, I learned about wireframing, bumpmapping, and other things that an aspiring game designer would need to know. If I had the $ Id go out and buy my own PS3 sdk, but thats a few thousand dollars outta my reach. So I took an alternate route to learn how the ps3 and its games works. If you agreed to Sonys TOS, then yes modding your console is wrong. But if you're one of the few who never placed your ps3 online EVER, then it should be open game on what you want to do with it. Will I get to be a game designer some day? Hopefully. Will I mod a system just to get free games or to cheat in a game online, not ever. I do what I do for the knowledge. My personal collection of videogames is up in the thousands. Everything from Atari 2600, 5200, XE Computer, Lynx, Gameboy, Gamegear, TG16 Portable, Intellivision to todays XBOX360, PS3, Wii sits nicely in my gaming room. To me videogames are art. It takes skill and craploads of time to produce these games that we all love. And Im all for giving the programmers their due, but dont walk all over your customers rights with catch 22's.  As far as cheaters and pirates are concerned, hang em, but let those who want to learn about the technologies learn as long as they dont harm anyone elses enjoyment of their consoles.

Xvault77
Xvault77

 @Space_Paranoids Indeed it can belooked at in that way. I agree to a point of what you say but again, after the past hackings so far and whatnot, what has sony done differently that was so exposed? They tightened up security for themselves and that's about it. Unfortunately there really is not too much good that can come of it. Instead of breaching everything, anyone that jailbreaks it or finds certain ways to mod it needs to go about it differently and in a way that does not affect everyone else that just wants to game and be legit.

Space_Paranoids
Space_Paranoids

I'm not a hacker nor do I ever aspire to be one and I agree that a portion of the time it's put to a less than beneficial use but...If we didn't have someone constantly pushing the boundaries, we wouldn't be where we are today. Companies are sitting on greater technologies that have been created but are content to slowly leak them to us so they can consistently roll out slightly better version for obvious financial gain, marketing them as if it's some new complete breakthrough. The "good" side of hacking is tapping the potential of the current hardware to improve it's useability and see what  is possible, pushing developers and corporations to stay honest, the "bad" side is pirates and children who think it's cool to "de-rank" you in a shooter lobby.

Xvault77
Xvault77

 @Syxx8psycho  @bwvictorious Well, first of all, thank you for not freaking out over my last reply. Second, again i do understand all that you say. Yes, morals or no morals, it all depends. You're right in the respect that if given the option, which we all do with the right knowledge and options - to in fact rip games and do this for much cheaper than an outright purchase of $60 or lower. Also with the fact you "can't throw your ps3 off a bridge if you wanted to" is just ridiculous. The Sony police are watching everyone's move on whether or not you throw ps3's off a bridge, into traffic, into the hoover dam??? By all means, take a hammer and smash away, I am sure not many people or Sony truly care what you do in retrospect. I mean the true bottom line here is anyone that holds a grudge for anything Sony has done to piss them off or they can't "hack" or "modify" their system like they want just needs to drop it, move on, go to another system or PC even and realize there are much better things in life to waste such time and effort on. I speak in truth here - if another hacking or anything happens to Sony or the PS3, heads are gonna roll coming from us true gamers towards the moron hackers and whatever they are trying to prove, which is absolutely nothing. Start a war with gas prices if you're going to do our lives of well being any good for God's sake.

Syxx8psycho
Syxx8psycho

 @bwvictorious  @Xvault77 Go research PS3 and other OS removal, Im pretty sure you will find people who want their Other OS option back, and those that did want it got their wish months ago. I dont condone piracy, it only hurts the industry, but I will not be told what I can and cant do with the products Ive purchased. If I wanna toss my ps3 off a bridge into the river then so be it. This argument can go on forever, to hack or not to hack. In the end a pirate will pirate, a legit user of other os will have his linux, and a regular gamer will have his updated ps3 console, and a cheater will find his way to cheat in whatever game he/she wishes to cheat in.(mind you a hacked console isnt necessary to cheat in... COD care package glitch anyone??)  Now, if the ps3 or any other game console already came with the ability to rip the game to its internal or external storage, and could be played without an original disc in the machine, would you still go out and buy the game even though you could rent a copy and rip it or borrow a friends? Ill bet that most of the people reading this will jump over to Gamefly in a minute if you had this ability. Save $60 and still get the game you want? Thats almost too good a temptation to resist. But thats where self control and morality come in. Some of us have that and some of us dont.

theend3r
theend3r

 @bwvictorious  @Xvault77  @Syxx8psycho No, but in most recent games they don't even allow you to backup your saves (or allow it, but not to transfer them to another console) which is absurd. Removing BC is also an utterly stupid move to make. I still own the day one PS3 and I would probably switch if it weren't for lack of BC in new consoles. And Linux? At least you could browse net on it unlike the current PS3 browser.