Forza Motorsport 5 will run in 1080p at 60fps

But Microsoft says it won't force developers to adhere to frame rates or resolutions.

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Turn 10 Studios' upcoming Xbox One racer Forza Motorsport 5 will run at 60 frames per second in native 1080p resolution, the studio has confirmed.

Speaking in an interview with GameSpot about the pressure of developing a Forza Motorsport in time for the Xbox One launch later in 2013, Turn 10 Studios' content director John Wendel said, "I believe we're uniquely positioned to deliver on that challenge. We're a huge epic game that's going to be running at 1080p, 60fps on the next-gen console, so it's an incredible opportunity on one hand, but you have to be incredibly flexible and agile and self-aware on the other hand."

Elsewhere, in an interview with the latest issue of UK gaming magazine Edge, Microsoft Studios vice president Phil Spencer said that Microsoft will not force its Xbox One developers to adhere to specific frame rates or resolutions.

"It's important we give creators the best tools to create the best experience possible," said Spencer, "and I don't think that platform holders can dictate what the internal frame buffer size should be."

"Forza 5 runs at 60 frames per second, but other people will make different trade-offs," said Spencer, adding that "resolution is not the thing that maximises beauty."

2011's Forza Motorsport 4 ran at 60fps in 720p, but last year's spin-off, Forza Horizon, dropped to a frame rate of 30fps.

Forza Motorsport 5 will be released later in 2013 alongside the Xbox One.

Discussion

610 comments
phbz
phbz

Turn 10 will just do what´s sensible to do on a generation transition. The game will technically be a Forza 4 in higher resolution and minor visual tweaks. Maybe on the online side will see some big changes but mainly due to MS pressure. 

ziggyww
ziggyww

Well duh and how come no one has mentioned that GT5 for the PS3 has been running 60fps at 1080p years. I wouldn't expect anything less from a next gen racing game 

mouseteeth
mouseteeth

Everyone is such a complainer. The screenshots and gameplay trailer look amazing.

Hoppo1984
Hoppo1984

That's amazing, cant wait to play games at 60fps, said pc gamers 5 years ago.


Messenger360p
Messenger360p

Lots of comments/defence from Turn 10 Studios staff here...

blazinpuertoroc
blazinpuertoroc

Next gen consoles are going to be strong enough for 1080p at 60fps and still look absolutely stunning. WTF are some of you guys smoking. Just because it's 1080p at 60fps doesn't mean it won't look up to par or like a 360 game. 

leandrro
leandrro

in 2020 the xbox one sucessor will have a new forza game with the same visuals and will run on 4k 120fps

emarati999
emarati999

wow 10 years

haha hope it is good coz the last forza was shit

leandrro
leandrro

M$ not only putting low-end hardware on the box but also making games on this low-end hardware run on framerates and resolutions only high-end pcs can achieve with modern engines like cryengine 3 or frostbyte 2, 3, i think they are suicidal like nintendo

leandrro
leandrro

if they start putting this 60fps 1080p all x1 games gonna look like crap in comparison to ps4 30fps games and pc versions

Joedgabe
Joedgabe

I never found FPS to be important in a game unless it's a fighting game @,@ i'm okay with 30FPS shooters and i don't think it matters at all on a racing game.... 

zekere
zekere

WipeoutHD was 1080p at 60fr/sec...

leandrro
leandrro

1080p 60fps on a HD7770 like video card? so M$ is basically telling us its gonna look like shit?

vivexx
vivexx

@ziggyww is not real 1080p in GT5. It have native 1280x1080 upscaled to FullHD, so it closer to HD than FullHD. Also average FPS 40-50 which rarely up to 60.

okno123svk
okno123svk

@Hoppo1984 Can you tell me the diference beetwen 60 fps and for example 120fps ? I probably have something with my eyes but i dont see it. 

cf_Kage
cf_Kage

@leandrro Why? May as well run at 4K, at 60fps, maximizing polygons per cycle, etc, etc

jamvng
jamvng

@leandrro isn't it 4 times the power? 1080p is more than twice the amount of pixels than 720p plus double the framerate? 2*2=4? Unless I'm missing something

BigFactHunt
BigFactHunt

@emarati999  

Wrong. 

It is the best console racer that's ever been.

Go troll somewhere else, troll.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@leandrro Yeah except the graphics won't be as advanced as PC. Put any game on lowest settings on PC and turn the res' up to 1080 and most PCs will get 60fps or more. 

The new consoles are more powerful than the last ones, but not that much more powerful.

I hope that means that they spend the majority of their power on 1080 and 60fps and keep the actual graphics the same. Might actually get a game worth playing if that happens.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@leandrro Forza 4 runs with 60fps at 720p with no problems!

Why shouldnt the X1(which is supposed to be 10 times as powerfull as the X360) be able to handle 60hz at 1080p?

IceJester45
IceJester45

I need 60 fps in fighters, racers and shooters. It's helpful, but optional, in any other genre.

IceJester45
IceJester45

So was Perfect Dark on the Xbox 360. Those games are fairly simplistic graphically, though.

Joshuavil
Joshuavil

@leandrro I don't understand why everybody keeps comparing PC with consoles. It's just dumb. I don't understand nothing about hardware but what I do understand is that the previous consoles "survived" 7 years with only 512mb of ram. If you tried to run a game like bf3 in a PC with 512mb ram it would most likely explode. Stop comparing the consoles with the PC.

leandrro
leandrro

@jamvng @leandrro the power needed increaes quite constant with frame rate increase (see bf3 single gpu and dual gpu benchmarks) but its not for resolution, i tested dozes of games in my pc and in almost all of them i needed 50% more power to run on same framerate, like 30fps in 1080p will run on 45fps in 720p, if it runs in 720p 30fps will drop to 20fps in 1080p, despite being 2,5 times more pixels

leandrro
leandrro

@sladakrobot the x1 is 3,5 times more powerfull than the x360, ps4 is about 6 times, forza could look much better in 30fps, just like bf3 looks much better than modern warfare, the problem is that its gonna be compared to ps4 1080p 30fps games, or even ps4 720p 30fps games and gonna look like shit depite better framerate

xxStardaSxx
xxStardaSxx

@Joshuavil @leandrro  And that's why you can only play 12 vs 12 in consoles, where as in pc you can play 32 vs 32. Not to mention that bf3 is limited to 30 fps in consoles which, for a shooting game, is just utter shit.

leandrro
leandrro

@sladakrobot @leandrro or may be sorcery will improve visuals, NFS most wanted cant make 20fps in ultra settings 1080p on xbone (hd 7770 video card)

IceJester45
IceJester45

There's a big difference between 30 fps and 60 fps. Thirty fps is fine for many genres, but 60 plays much, much more smoothly. I wouldn't want to play a racer, 3-D fighter or first-person shooter in anything less.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

I though he was talking about Forza 4.
Horizon wasnt my cup of tea coz i prefer circuit racing and also for a change the "Initial D"-like  uphill-downhill races.

xxStardaSxx
xxStardaSxx

@Joshuavil @xxStardaSxx @leandrro Yes, i see your point. It would simply be impossible, windows poses to much of an overhead on the hardware to make that anywhere feasible. However, i must say that there's a misconception regarding how often PCs need to be upgraded to be playing the latest releases. You could easily buy a high-end PC today and be able to play games for 4, maybe, 5 years to come. Of course that you wouldn't be able to run them max graphics and doing this would cost more than buying a console. But i still rather do it, pay more for a PC and enjoy a better gaming experience throughout its whole life cycle.

Joshuavil
Joshuavil

@xxStardaSxx @Joshuavil @leandrro Yeah I hate playing bf3 on console. It's like playing a nes game! Imagine if you tried to play bf3 on a PC from 2005. Consoles are made to last for years without needing upgrades. 

Joshuavil
Joshuavil

@IceJester45 @leandrro @sladakrobot The only intelligent person here. I mean, it's so stupid to compare one with the other. Let's keep in mind that the consoles are running bf3 with only 512mb of ram. I want everyone to let this fact sync in.

IceJester45
IceJester45

@leandrro @sladakrobot That's not a fair comparison. The Xbox One won't have to run as much stuff in the background, and console games generally are optimized better than PC games are.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@leandrroYou must be then the only person outside of MS and Turn 10 who was able to play Forza 5 as all of us others got to see was a teaser and no gameplay.
Write a review,i am sure everybody would like to read it.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@leandrro And still,we will have a Forza 5 with 60fps at 1080p...sounds like magic :)

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@leandrro Could be true but i am pretty sure that inside the X1 is not just 1 videocard to be found.

leandrro
leandrro

@sladakrobot @leandrro no, the 2012's need for speed most wanted run at about 20fps (in pc ultra settings) in a xbone like PC with a hd 7770 video card, so forza would look much poorer than this need for speed to be able to run in 60fps 1080p