Forza 5 makes “fundamental improvements” to its criticized in-game economy

The latest update makes the 200 cars that came on the disc available in Free Play mode and adds DLC cars to garage at no additional cost.

A Forza Motorsport 5 update released yesterday makes “fundamental improvements” to its in-game economy, giving players faster, easier access to more cars, developer Turn 10 Studios has said.

With the new update, players who purchase DLC cars can add them to their garage immediately. Previously, players would have to pay in-game currency or more real money to add cars to their garage, even after buying the DLC. This applies to all current and future DLC.

In addition, the update makes all of the initial 200 cars that launched with Forza Motorsport 5 available as rental cars, meaning you can use them in the game’s Free Play mode.

Back in December 2013, after a lot of complaints from players, Turn 10 made another significant change to the game’s economy, slashing car prices by 45 percent and doubling the income rate.

“I look at the game we launched on November 22, 2013 and the game that I play today, and I see something that has changed dramatically over the past four months,” Turn 10 Creative Director Dan Greenawalt said in an open letter yesterday. “We’ve made some significant changes to the game’s economy, we’ve added new features, and we’ve continued a steady stream of new content, including track add-ons like February’s free addition of Road America.”

Greenawalt also said that Turn 10 will announce another free add-on in April. For more on Forza Motorsport 5, check out our review.

Emanuel Maiberg is a freelance writer. You can follow him on Twitter @emanuelmaiberg and Google+.
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96 comments
Phrase_Universe
Phrase_Universe

Translation: We've made enough money off microtransactions. You can have this crap. 

themc_7
themc_7

I don't mind saving up and earning new cars, that's part of the fun! Truth be told I got this game for Christmas and it's still un-opened. But it sounds like there's been a lot of beneficial changes made. I'm looking forward to getting into this.

AyatollaofRnR
AyatollaofRnR

These changes are smart, especially making DLC cars immediately available. 


I actually didn't mind the grind too much, as  I enjoyed working towards new cars. But it's good they increased the income rate especially for buying more expensive cars.

collingtonuk
collingtonuk

I got it with my xbox, I must have done about 10 races but just didn't feel it. It looked lovely but was just didn't hook me. Between that an BF4 my Xbox hasn't been played on since Xmas.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

Bit late isn't it?  They going to refund the microtransactions too?

DesertEaglex24
DesertEaglex24

Too late, I'm done with this lazy barebones trash. No new maps, no weather system, no drag races. I rather go play Forza 4, even Horizon offers way more content then this game.

zakaweb
zakaweb

This is a great success for us players.  Not having to grind to play with cars you've spent real money on.

Vodoo
Vodoo

ABOUT FUCKIN TIME!!! I haven't played this game in the last 4 months because of all the bullshit. Who charges money for dlc cars and then makes you have to earn enough in-game money to buy & unlock them? That is beyond EA-level douchebaginess! If you pay real money for cars, you should have access to them IMMEDIATELY. Do they think people are gonna play this game for 6yrs straight just to unlock the damn cars? Because that's how slow the process is, even AFTER their so-called 45% economy reduction.

Damage is already done, you greedy pricks! I'm done with your trash game and I doubt I'll ever buy another Turn 10 game again.

MaXiMuS2oo9
MaXiMuS2oo9

I love it how they cite these as improvements, just goes to show even more that they screwed up in the first place..

lithium023
lithium023

it should have been like that from the very start, there just learning that they can't screw gamers as bad as they thought they might be able to get away with but for many its to little to late, once you have that sour taste in your mouth of being ripped off its hard to go back 


istuffedsunny
istuffedsunny

Holy shit, you had to unlock the cars after you already paid for them, or pay even more? And they're just NOW fixing this? This series needs to die.

nurnberg
nurnberg

I can't believe that such nickel and diming is used in video games.  Then developers don't understand why gamers hate them.

JSusie
JSusie

I would have cared about this 4 months ago when I was still playing Forza.

arrow2thekneeXD
arrow2thekneeXD

This is still pure %100 crap, Micro transactions need to die.

Derekuda
Derekuda

It's too little too late.  In fact, its less then too little.   It's still a dead franchise to me as long as it has micro transactions.  DLC is one thing, but when you start using micro transactions to nickle and dime your consumers after they already paid $60 for the game, it's goodbye forever.  Too bad too.  Forza used to be a great game.

Acquire
Acquire

I just want them to release that PC version they showed at GDC

skipper847
skipper847

Just bought the game not even dispatched and cant wait to play next week.

nazart81
nazart81

they should releae more tracks, and with all that over the top grinding the game got boring fast. 

zato_number_one
zato_number_one

I for one never minded having to do a little grinding for the monthly DLC cars. It actually makes you care about each car that you've unlocked by (gasp) having to actually play the game. Anyhow, hopefully they are going to add more tracks, preferably with different ambience, like say, foggy or night time or even the fall leaves of Maple Valley.

BoozerX
BoozerX

Now, how about dynamic weather?

AyatollaofRnR
AyatollaofRnR

@DesertEaglex24  To be fair they had to build this game for a new console, so I wouldn't expect the same depth of features as four.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@DesertEaglex24You doesnt seem up to date( or do you ever played it?).
There is drag racing...period.
There is a track pack for free...Road America comes with 6 tracks.
Tell me how you would implement a weather system in 3-5 a lap race?

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@Vodoo You are whiner...its like that since Forza 2 and just now the whiners complain.

XBlade1X
XBlade1X

@Vodoo That's like saying that paying for expansion packs should give you everything they have to offer at the start and you shouldn't have to unlock anything.

Can you imagine what Elder Scrolls or Fallout would be like if you bought the DLC for them and then just got given a bunch of items without any story or gameplay?

I am actually a bit unhappy with this change as I spent a lot of the game training myself to be a better driver so I could turn up the difficulty to earn more money and be able to spend it on more cars. Now all the new ones are free so it pretty much makes the feeling of buying them with my earned credits much less satisfying.

lithium023
lithium023

@istuffedsunny  ya im sure some people couldn't wait until they had the ingame credits to buy the DLC cars they just bought with real money so they bought ingame money with real money and basically got raped twice by turn 10.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@nurnberg Didnt knew pople hate Turn 10...they made the best racing game on Xbox,X360 and now on the X1.

Janpieterzun
Janpieterzun

@Derekuda Idiot Gran Turismo charges micro-transaction for the same cars with just different paint jobs.

blackace
blackace

@Derekuda Just about every game has paid DLC now. WTF are you talking about. Do you even know what Micro-transaction are? That's when you would have to pay real money for a tire, an engine, in game money, minor features, etc... There's not of that in this game. There's is option car pack bundles that you can pay for, but no one needs to buy them to enjoy the game, because there are already over 200 unique cars in the game.

blackace
blackace

@Acquire lol!! That was a demo. They aren't releasing the game to the PC. Have you seen any Forza games on the PC before?

blackace
blackace

@BoozerX That probably won't happen until Horizon 2 or Forza 6. AS well as night and day cycles.

dysonlu
dysonlu

@XBlade1X @Vodoo  

Your comparison makes no sense.  This is a racing game, not a DLC for an RPG.  A more appropriate comparison would be if you bought some equipment with real money only to realize that you need to level up your characters AND to grind and mine the virtual money in order to buy the equipment.  Lame.

AyatollaofRnR
AyatollaofRnR

@XBlade1X @Vodoo  I agree with that. If all the cars are readily available it does take away a bit from the satisfaction of earning something through hard work.


But I can see a short coming in a DLC pack of 10 cars, which would take hours and hours of play to get all 10 cars in your garage. Unless they were available to rent up front?


Either way, you can't please everyone, so you gotta strike a balance!

allever
allever

@blackace @arrow2thekneeXD You need to take a clearer look outside of the box.

It's not free content.  You already paid for it when you bought the game.

Vodoo
Vodoo

No, the micro transactions in Forza are using real money to buy in game currency. When people paid $5-$7 for a car pack and then are forced to have to play hours upon hours to unlock those cars so you can use them, some people buy a micro transaction of in-game money so they can unlock the cars they already paid for. It's an ass backwards system and I've NEVER seen an equivalent to it in any other game... even EA.

It was a real scumbag thing to do and NOBODY should be defending this practice. No one is saying the racing is bad, because it's not. It's a great sim racer. But they ruined their game because they tried to implement free-2-play techniques into a full price game by making progress so slow that it pushes people towards the micro transactions, even for stuff you already bought.

shingui5
shingui5

@sladakrobot @BoozerX  

You expect/want a game to be 100% realistic? 

dysonlu
dysonlu

@Janpieterzun  

He did not have to frame his criticism in that context in order for his view of one game to be a valid opinion about said game. By the same token, not framing his opinion about one game in the context does not make him an idiot.

Does one need to include EVERY corresponding "titular games" in his/her opinion in order for the opinion to be valid and not viewed as idiotic?

His opinion seems to be "skewing perception" to you simply because you are a crazy fanboy.

You are the big idiot here digging yourself into a deeper hole.   

Janpieterzun
Janpieterzun

You for not understanding context. Racing only had two titular games at the top of the genre, Forza & GT, for consoles anyway. Implying forza does one thing poorly without framing in context that NEITHER does it correctly or the other is just as bad skewing perception.

sammoth
sammoth

@nazart81 @sammoth 6 variants of one track isn't enough. You still complain because it's free. I say you sound like a whiney biotch.