Former Crytek USA Devs Exploring A Return to Darksiders

Former Crytek USA and Vigil Games founder opens a new studio and is exploring a return to the Darksiders series.

A core team of developers from Crytek USA, who previously worked on Darksiders at Vigil Games, have formed a new studio, Gunfire Games, and are exploring a return to the Darksiders series.

Crytek USA's former CEO David Adams decided to leave the company and form the independent studio at the same time we heard a number of reports claiming that Crytek had canceled games and was losing staff after not paying them.

"Forming another independent studio was something that I thought about because of what was going on," Adams told Polygon in an interview. "It got to the point where people were starting to leave."

Now Gunfire Games is looking for some work to get the studio up and running, but is also thinking about its next big project. Adams said one possibility would be another Darksiders game, and that they've already spoken to Nordic Games, which bought the rights to the series during THQ's bankruptcy auction back in April 2013.

Gunfire currently consists of seven people, all of whom were leads at Crytek USA, and is working on another round of hires.

Crytek hired 35 former Vigil Games developers to form Crytek USA after THQ closed its doors in January 2013.

Last month, Crytek announced that as part of its "internal restructuring," staff at its Austin, Texas location (Crytek USA) were laid off, although "several" employees remained behind to assist with CryEngine support for North American developers who have licensed the game-development engine. The game that the studio had been developing, Hunt: Horrors of the Gilded Age, is now handled by Crytek's Frankfurt studio, developer of the Crysis series and Ryse: Son of Rome.

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97 comments
Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

Yeah, but where is the money coming from?

gamingnerd121
gamingnerd121

It's almost sad to see people putting Darksiders 2 on a piedestal, since it's objectively a worse game than the first. Maybe people were shrouded with ignorance and lost sight, but in that case there's no cure.

heartindarkness
heartindarkness

what do u mean thinking about jst do it huv no idea why these games failed they were good !! enjoyed every moment of em

M3o5nster
M3o5nster

Make the next Darksiders a co-op game like the first one was planned to be, and watch the money roll in. Just make the co-op similar to how Dragon's Crown works. People can bring their geared up horseman into any game and join their friends to help with missions. The iron crucible would be especially fun with 4 player co-op.

chicken32
chicken32

When I heard Crytek's troubles I was instantly worried that we would not see another Darksiders. I am glad to see that the developers still have the franchise in mind!

korvus
korvus

More Darksiders? Yes, please!

Sefrix
Sefrix moderator moderator

I really hope something comes from this. I loved both Darksiders. 

Acquire
Acquire

Yes.  This would be awesome getting another Darksiders game.  They should totally use the Cryengine haha.  Game would look beautiful.

rmiller365
rmiller365

Start a kickstarter if you need funding! I know I'm not the only one here who would love to help make Darksiders 3 happen.

archav3n
archav3n

It's saddened me that a talented devs suffered repeated fate of lay-offs. I strongly urge them to go indie. And do make Darksiders 3 and make a deal with Nordic. Go Kickstarter and i'll be the first to support them. And i'm sure many others would.

Megavideogamer
Megavideogamer

Darksiders has to return. I loved the first game. Second was almost as good. Maybe by taking a rest, even though that wasn't intended may end up a good thing. Returning this series to what made it great. Darksiders 3 and 4 should hopefully be on the way.

starjay009
starjay009

Darksiders 2 was simply one of my FAVOURITE games ever. Please make it happen Crytek ! We need DS3 big time. I am inching to find out what happened to DEATH and the other Horsemen of the Apocalypse. 

ForsakenWicked
ForsakenWicked

I hope they do it. I loved the first Darksiders and have yet to play the second, which looks much better than the first.

Godlikan
Godlikan

Do not explore it. Do it. And for gods sake put in all four horseman. Time for great war has come.

ahpuck
ahpuck

I hope it happens. Darksiders is one of my fav series. Yeah, it's very derivative and they borrow freely from other games, but it's still a heck of a lot of fun to play.

blackx114
blackx114

Nordic Games: We see you, Gunfire Games. You offer so little.


Gunfire Games: We have an offer in mind...

riotinto876
riotinto876

Darksiders suffers from being a good series that didn't sell, so they should put more effort into marketing this time as the games were already great.

YEPEE00
YEPEE00

i'd rather have a new soul reaver.

danusty
danusty

if they make more games to this series they should completely eliminate those 3rd person shooter segments (I dislike those with a passion) and bring them to the usual ps3, 360 and PC, I doubt this people have the money to waste bringing them to "next gen" and their install base and possible cost of manufacturing

moonlightwolf01
moonlightwolf01

Hope these guys get the darksiders contract we need a sequel and the original developers are usually the best people to ensure that the sequel is true to the originals.

enuo9
enuo9

I need more Darksiders in my life.

MJ-X
MJ-X

Finally some news about Darksiders even if a little. Here's hopes that Vigil get to make the 3rd.


Can't wait to see what the other riders story will be.

koyettsu
koyettsu

Excellent, can we please get a different ending this time around though.  

shahdeewasahoe
shahdeewasahoe

Very good news! So now that we are done with War and Death, it's Conquest and/or Famine's turn. I used to wish a good series like this wouldn't get annihilated cuz of THQ bankruptcy.

Barighm
Barighm

I want to see what they can do with Pestilence. And then, one day...four man co-op with every player controlling one of the horsemen! That's the super cool thing we're waiting for.

geniobastardo
geniobastardo

Crysis 4 and Darksiders 3...

the thought is making me moist.

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

Just make Darksiders 3 DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!

Promised_Trini
Promised_Trini

Wait wait someone explain this to me.I thought Nordic Games owned the Darksiders IP.

gamingnerd121
gamingnerd121

If the developers even look at these comments, then i hope they take a really hard look at Darksiders 1, and use that as a guideline. Darksiders 2 was a downgrade in pretty much every aspect,

1. Remove the loot system and use a system like Darksiders 1, much more focused and keeps you in the fight.

2. Remove the generic quest system as well, and again use Darksiders 1.

3. Animations need to be at least the quality of Darksiders 1, because it was pretty bad in 2. An easy example is comparing Samael from DS1 and 2.

There are more points that could be added, but you should get the general idea. The first game was simply better designed.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@gamingnerd121 Seriously, the second sucked.  The half baked Diablo loot system was a terrible TERRIBLE addition.  The first was a tight mix of Zelda and God of War, the second was a mish mash of everything they could throw in.

Sohaim
Sohaim

@Godlikan oh yes, please, that needs to happen, with Co-Op too.

gamingnerd121
gamingnerd121

@riotinto876 It's nothing to do with marketing, but that the developer was bloating the sequel with unnecessary additions. The identity from the first game was gone, but THQ's downfall had somehting to do with it as well.

Zeeksie
Zeeksie

@YEPEE00 How are these two games related apart from gameplay similarities?

xhero2
xhero2

@Bellum_Sacrum almost all games has ripped something from somewhere. Whatever, as long as the story is nice and unique and the gameplay sweet.

MJ-X
MJ-X

@Promised_Trini 

They may own the IP but ex Vigil staff is hoping to be the studio to develop the next game.

Remember that Nordic Games is mostly a publisher that hands over the development work to in house teams if available or just to other teams.

Such examples are Bayonetta IP, owned and published by Sega/Nintendo but developed by Platinum Games. Same goes for Metal Gear Rising owned and published by Konami and developed by Platinum games as well. Yet Platinum Games is not part of either publisher, they are just a dev team for hire with quality staff and expertise with history of experience.

In this case its published by Nordic and developed by a Nordic dev team, ex Vigil or some other dev.

It completely depends on whether Nordic will give full reigns to the story and environment to any dev but if they would my bet would be ex Vigil team since they started the series from scratch.

M3o5nster
M3o5nster

@Promised_Trini They bought the rights, so they can sell it, or contract Gunfire to help with the game. There are options to make it work.

shahdeewasahoe
shahdeewasahoe

@gamingnerd121 That is pretty much your opinion that DS 2 was a downgrade. Next time add "in my opinion" after your statements.

MJ-X
MJ-X

@gamingnerd121 No, just no. DSII is so much better:

1. More space to gallop around on your horse.

2. Loot system is amazing and allows for more play style diversity.

3. Quests were pretty good gave u the feel that u were in an open world.

The only thing i would agree with u on is the attention to detail when it comes to characters, the 1st DS was better. Then again DSII was there 1st attempt at an open world given the situation in THQ at the time. Bet DSIII would be much better.


xOmniCloudx
xOmniCloudx

@gamingnerd121 I personally find DS2 to be the far superior of the two. The original felt more uninspired trying to do what similar games were doing and not coming anywhere close. The second actually felt like a game that stood on its own and wasn't inferior to other things out there.

Arcamonde
Arcamonde

@gamingnerd121 I actually wasn't even aware this was a popular point of view. I actually like Darksiders 2 much more than Darksiders 1. I loved the loot system and the all the characters and the like. I had a hard time with Darksiders 1 mainly because it reminded me of God of War and other similar games. Where as Darksiders 2 felt more open. The loot system was also fun for me, but I suppose that is a matter of preference to different styles of gameplay. I am unsure about your comment on the animation between the two games. I will have to take a good look when I have some time.

gamingnerd121
gamingnerd121

@Thanatos2k That's exactly what it was, but it seems like that opinion is in the minority. Maybe we should've had the horse sooner in Darksiders 1, but other than that the game was pretty solid.

gamingnerd121
gamingnerd121

@xOmniCloudx Darksiders 2 was suffering from a identity crisis, which is the mild way of putting it. The first game was a much more focused experience, with the comparison to Zelda being valid and welcome.

Barighm
Barighm

I didn't enjoy the first at all. Felt like every other stylish action rip-off out there except with far worse pacing and a busted graphics engine that kept dropping into the single digits FPS wise. Darksiders 2 had more interesting design, more cooler abilities from the outset, and GOOD incentive to explore the world and complete acrobatic puzzles.