Five million fighting Guild Wars

NCsoft's nonsubscription-based MMORPG has now sold more than five million.

Back in January, Blizzard released the latest figures for its hugely popular massively multiplayer online role-playing game World of Warcraft. The expansion pack The Burning Crusade had added another two million users to the game, which brought the total user base to over 10 million.

Now NCsoft has released some figures to show that its own fantasy MMO, Guild Wars, isn't doing so badly either. The latest numbers show that more than five million people have bought the game, which unlike WOW, operates without a monthly fee, and instead releases regular expansion packs.

The latest expansion pack, Eye of the North, was released at the end of August. It added new content for those players who had reached the level 20 cap, including new dungeons, skills, and minigames.

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burn6
burn6

shade1978x, what snow mission? nighfall campaign was easy.

shade1978x
shade1978x

I just bought Nightfall because I wanted to play as the Dervish. Guild Wars was extremely fun but my character's progress was stopped dead in its tracks once I hit one of the snow missions. I hope Nightfall is fun. If so, I may get EOTN.

Adam_the_Nerd
Adam_the_Nerd

Problem is, thats 5 million sold right? Not necessarily 5 million playing actively. Same with WoW, they constantly lie about stats.

XeroComplex
XeroComplex

Heh... gj Guild Wars I would go as far to say that Guild Wars is kind of drying up now, but when it was at its peak, its PvP laughed at the very thought of WoW's Arena combat.

lime05
lime05

G U I L D W A R S I S E X T R A O R D I N A R Y !

sonicwhip
sonicwhip

I've been playing gw for almost a few months and so far its my favorite online games compared to many other mmo's i own every 4 game plus the bonus mission pack and im extremely anticipating guild wars 2 im sure it will be a very awesome game and i cant wait!

junbomumbo
junbomumbo

GW is Amazingly sifisticated in the features it has allowed into the game, WoW undoughtably has many more features then GW, but GW still manages to make the game seem more valuable then WoW with everything they do. Making it harder to believe, GW IS FREE!

Wanderer5
Wanderer5

I just got GW and so far it a pretty good MMO. I glad it doing well compare to most MMO games

buttface1
buttface1

Kind of funny how the only MMO that is even competing with WoW is GW... I mean, looking at all the other MMO's that p2p. Maybe those guys should rethink what they're doing. ;D I'm a GW guys personally, just my style of an MMO.

snowyjoe
snowyjoe

what everyone is forgeting is that GUILD WARS IS A NON SUBSCRIPTION BASED GAME! No monthly fee crap. And have you ever played the free MMORPGs online that you can download? Their absolute crap! Crap crap crap! Compaired to them Guild Wars is god! It's the best non subscription based MMORPG i have ever played! WoW gets 10 million people paying 15bucks a month 10000000 x $15 = alot Compared to the low buget GW gets i think GW has done a great job

Vanine_28
Vanine_28

I tried guild wars for abit but i couldent get into it. WOW just totally bores me now. Im left with nothing till may , when hopefully a game i've been waiting for over 3 years come's out , Age of Connan. I Really am praying that its not a vaungard : Saga of Zero's cause man i was so disapointed in that game.

perfectdefect
perfectdefect

the "expansions" for gw, aren't really expansions, so its not quite as funny as you think :)

SirFatalChaos
SirFatalChaos

Whats funny is that they sold 5 million games, COUNTING the expansions, but WoW has 10 million subscribers and mostlikely 15 million games sold or more. And SWG is mostlikely one of the best games I've played before NGE and I don't like Star Wars that much.

dnvegeta
dnvegeta

swg was better pre nge, as when i played it, city of villians was cool, minus the needing groups after 15 and deaths causing major delay in lvling, eq2 dont know wht you needed to play it top end.. even tho thts what i had. the quests where hard to find n such. wow been there done tht, need to be in a guild to actually get good items. played pirates of the caribbean online, they need alot of work to do on the game i think but the ships are cool. overall id say the best i've played was lord of the rings online. they just need to let you lvl up monsters aka play evil just like you play good. oh yea, and guildwars... you cant jump whts up with tht?

revenger681
revenger681

I really enjoy GW. I own and play all the expansions as well. GW is better, in my opinion in the way of animations, and "casual" play. I work, I go to school, I have side-jobs on the weekend. So I am not the young person who can sit and play at his computer all day and night without worrying about being responsible. Guild Wars lets you enjoy it's vast, and expanding world, free of charge, and in your spare time. You do not get bumped for not being able to spend your entire life behind a computer screen. WoW is impressive as well, but requires far too much time to get involved in....

DMWhiteDragon
DMWhiteDragon

I quit WoW a long time ago and will never go back... but i dont like GW either ;) One thing to remember with these numbers is that they are not directly relatable. The 10mill number from WoW is an active subscription number so it doesn't count those who no longer play. The GW number counts everyone who has ever bought the game, even those you bought on day one played for 4 hours and uninstalled it forever. So while the WoW number is pretty close to a real number of 'active' users, the GW number isn't, i would venture to guess it would be closer to 3.5-4.5 at most (still impressive no doubt)

vortex_gw
vortex_gw

I have played both games and I think Guild Wars is better. The PvP in GW is just awesome. No matter which RPG you play with time PvE is getting borring but GW's PvP never does! I just can't wait to see GW2!

iuns
iuns

Guild wars is great because there is no monthly fee, world of warcraft is the better game, its just a rip off.......

jirzman
jirzman

When you compare how long WOW has been around,the numbers are nowhere near GW.GW is one of the best I've played.Not only the PVP and quest,but love the fact it is free.Not taking anything from WOW.To each his or her own.I happen to love GW and when GW2 come out I will make it 5mil and one.

demi_veritaz
demi_veritaz

The majority is always right. The majority is always right. The majority is always right. The majority is always right. The majority is always right. The majority is always right. The majority is always right. The majority is always right. The majority is always right. Majority rules. Lawl, I'll stick with GW, I like PvP and can't stand the level grind. To each their own, but I can't help but laugh at the people thinking WoW is better just because more people play it.

Netherscourge
Netherscourge

I have a lot of respect for Guild Wars. No Monthly Fee. Lots of added content in the expansion packs. Huge zones that make it FEEL like a persistant MMORPG. And GW PvP makes WoW PvP look pathetic. 5 million sales is very good. Competing with WOW is not an easy task. Kudos to ArenaNet! Guild Wars 2 might actually cause me to uninstall WOW from my PC finally.

glhx2112
glhx2112

Not suprised. I look at how much money I threw at Everquest over 5 yrs and I cringe. NCsoft has proven you can make a great game that does not require a monthly rip-off fee.

skopas
skopas

Well, I've played both games. I still think EQ is better. Though i'm waiting for Conan in May.

topgunmv
topgunmv

WoW may have 10 million "subscribers" but nowhere near 10 million people playing. I know people who have 2, 3 or more accounts. Why? I don't know, but a lot of people do this.

nypg
nypg

@ Lionheart8472, Actually, the 10M is based on current active subscribers... http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184987.html Quote: ... World of Warcraft has reached the 10 million subscriber milestone. ... Blizzard noted that the term subscriber encompasses those who have paid a subscription fee, have an active prepaid WOW card, are within their first free month of game access after purchasing the game, or have logged into the game from an Internet cafe within the last 30 days. The tally does not include expired or canceled subscriptions, or those playing under free promotional accounts. peace!

Logic_Wins
Logic_Wins

Guild wars is the only MMo I really got into. Its great because you can play all day or for a 1/2 hour and actually acomplish somthing. Also the PVP takes place in special arenas so you dont have to bother with it if you dont want to. Also guild wars has a grat mount of "how" you can have pets, special armor and wepons...and the quest system is supiorer to any RPG ive played. although I don't play much anymore (thanks to RTS games that keep me addicted" its a much better game for people that want to play an MMo without giving up their lives to do so.

Lionheart8472
Lionheart8472

Do you idiots really think WoW has a 10 Million Subscriber base? No it cleary states USER BASE. That means there has been at least 10 Million people that have played their game at some point. I highly doubt all of them are still play because I'm one of them currently not playing WoW. And if you read this article carefully you'll see that Guild Wars claims 5 million people have bought the game. Sure not all of them are playing it right now, (I myself went back 2 months ago for a few weeks and have since stopped again) but they are just stateting that they have sold that many. Stop comparing and telling people which game is better and not. It's obvious which is the more popular one, but that doesn't mean both games aren't good in their own way.

redt_man
redt_man

i must say that i do not kno how ppl think that GW has a rude and inconsiderate player base bc ive played WoW for...ooo...idk...say....bout two years now and two days ago was the first day ive played GW (as stated in the previous comment) and i got more help in the past two days from other players than what ive gotten from WoW... this may just be personal experience n everything but its true... i also love the fact that theres nearly a neverending amount of things to do, lv up, kill, look at, and EVERYTHING by the way... WoW is awesome dont get me wrong ppl im just experiencing something new and more exciting... please remember ppl.... we are all entitled to our own opinions and throwing someone down in the dirt bc u think WoW is btr on a commnet post isnt really a MUST DO...thats wat blogs and forums are for... HAPPY THRASHING!!!

aura_enchanted
aura_enchanted

ppl betorthed to WoW plz use exit on the plain back there where nobody cares what u think regardles of how many of u their are. everyone else who happens to be proud that something other than WoW or a new MMO is in the news may stay where they are. Gwad I've always wanted to tell u folks to step off the hardware and then take a long trip down into No Onecares Land! second of all whats to say that WoW doesnt suffer the same indirect problem only its recessed to such a level that u cant tell clean from spam account, oh wait thats right u cant cause u play a low budget game with mediocre give backs and a dead storyline, a dead quest system, a dead population, and a dead economy on many servers. So to all u who wish to make claims against anything I said choke and there's the door to go with the rest! Get a life for being a slave to blizzard and its idiotic ilk!

Sins-of-Mosin
Sins-of-Mosin

Hey Emma, make sure you compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges. There is a huge difference in units sold compared to actual subscribers. GW is still the little boy in the room but hey, if it keeps the kids away from the pay MMO's, I'm happy.

redt_man
redt_man

haha hey i mightve been the 5millionths buyer then!!! thats sweet to know cuz i bought it two days ago!!! this is an AWESOME game and i love the whole concept and its not all cartoon-y as WoW is so it kinda adds a lil more seriosness to the game...that and its so user frendly its redic!!!!

a5minmajor
a5minmajor

I see that GameSpot UK 'journalists' suffer from the same malady that mainstream media 'journalists' suffer from; the inability to write a story without wrapping an ounce of truth in a pound of lie. WoW has a -total user base- of 10 million. GW- 5 million people 'have bought the game' The implication here, is that GW is gaining ground on, or is half as popular as, WoW. As with all 'news' stories, to dig through the garbage, you neeed only ask simple questions; 5 million people have bought ALL versions of GW? or 5 million people have purchased one episode of GW? or 5 million copies of one version of the other of GW have been sold? Is it possible 2.5 million people have purchased episode 1 and 2 of GW? Why the fight? What is the article trying to get us to believe; that we should run out and buy GW because other people are buying more copies of it? This is mob market mentalitly, and probably doesn't represent the actual quality of EITHER game. Shake off these 'news' stories for mental defectives, and do yourself a favor; try both games, and play which one you find more enjoyable. If it is worth it to you to pay a monthly fee for WoW, consider it a good entertainment investment. If you prefer GW, then save your monthly fee for the bi-annual expenditure but rest assured, you will pay the same amount in the end for both. Don't kid yourself; GW may have no monthly fee, but add up what you pay overall for the initial lay-down, plus what you pay for the expansions...then compare to an annual sub to WoW. You'll probably find they are not that far off. Either way, your comparing beer to wine, and should probably drink what you like. Have a nice day.

KhanhAgE
KhanhAgE

GW has one major advantage over WoW. You can make a level cap PvP only character. Although GW PvP is better than WoW (hello mindless honor/arena point farming), it is still entirely enjoyable. But the fact that if I want to say try PvP'ing in WoW with a Warlock, I'd have to roll a new character and "grind" him from 1 to 70, which is a real time sink and pain in the @ss. Nobody wants to waste half to a whole months subscription grinding a toon to the level cap just 'cuz they want to PvP as 'said class'. But then again the more time you invest in WoW the more money Blizzard makes. Can't wait for Guild Wars 2.

kaziechameleon
kaziechameleon

people keep complaining about how this article doesn't count subscribers, well let me put it this way does it matter to them if there aren't any since the game is free to play no. wow counts by subscribers cause that is where they make the money(riping people off) and guild wars wasn't a franchise with a fan base so for a original IP to make these numbers is awesome, god stop smashing the numbers you wow fanatics.

Chavi
Chavi

I hate monthly fees because of the "drug approach" they create in games. ArenaNet proved that great game can be made by focusing on other, much more natural aspects of human satisfaction. Other than months of grinding for epic equipment. Keep playing WoW. You are making our advance in life easier because you're simply not there. Great work, ArenaNet!

audioaxes
audioaxes

you cant say theres 5 million people in GW as there has been 4 expansions so most of those copies were ppl buying the new expansions plus Guild Wars is a ghost town compared to when it was at its most popular point

Serious
Serious

I'm not surprised. there absolutely no reason that MMO gameplay can't be free. Sony has proven its possible and so did NCsoft before them. that probably why they working together on a game.

SpookyFish
SpookyFish

While the amount of sales is nice to hear, the article (as someone has pointed out) is misleading. 5 million people have bought Guild Wars, and my friend and I are two of those who bought it, but do we still play it or have it installed? Nope. If a news bit like this is going to tout the number of sales GW has had (and I'm assuming collectively for the original + expansions), then it should do the same with WoW and reveal how many copies of the original and expansion have sold thus far. Total user base = 10M is NOT the same as sales = 5M. Sorry, but while GW is a solid game, it's nothing more than a fly on the back of Blizzard's work horse - an annoyance, if anything, but hardly a threat.

londonrider
londonrider

That's a very good game- great visuals, great designs, great story and it's addictive. I'm glad it's doing well! I hope GW2 will be a revolution in MMO :)

Shadow-909
Shadow-909

World of Warcraft is going down! >:D

VenomRitual
VenomRitual

some of you make good points. but it sucks they charge you monthly to play. guil;d wars saves u money in the end and seems to be just as popular.

jazilla
jazilla

guils wars is an awesome game. all of the games are fun and the pvp is set up very nicely. there are a lot of options and there is always a game to find in whatever type of pvp you like. you also dont have to level up a pve character or do any grinding to get into the pvp. you can make pvp characters at the max level and pvp right when you buy the game!i love being able to fight against other people just like in a multiplayer FPS, but in a fantasy mmo type setting without having to grind at all! but even so, the pve for GW is top notch and the game still looks great after all of these years.

guru_roodypoo
guru_roodypoo

The article is definitely a bit misleading. They're comparing apples to oranges by putting Guild Wars' total sales up against WoW's active subscribers. WoW is currently in a league of its own when it comes to tallying up the active subscription base across the world. However, you cannot deny that 5 million sales is a very impressive number by any standard, MMO or not.

runstalker
runstalker

Guild Wars 2 will once again be free to play, but with a big, huge persistent shared world space in addition to the usual array of instances. And it's A.Net artwork + 2008-grade engine tech. A welcome sight.

Plightman
Plightman

I love hearing all the WoW bashers out there. The fact that you have to affirm how "good" or "great" your particular game is by comparing it to WoW only proves one point. That WoW is better. That being said, Guild Wars is a good game. 5 million cant be wrong. But I doubt 5milion still play.

Dean_Harper
Dean_Harper

I like this game so much better than WoW, no grinding up to lvl 70 for me plz! Besides, it takes much more skill to play (especially as a Mesmer ;) ).

Pete5506
Pete5506

That is good news, this game beats WoW any day

Merl57
Merl57

The game is pretty cheap now compared to brand new 360 games you could probably get all the games for under the price of 2 new 360 games. and there are bonus weekends and holidays all the time now.