Final Fantasy XIII Hands-On

We were lucky enough to spend some time with the English version of Square Enix's latest role-playing epic.

If you're currently living in Japan, chances are you're already grinding your way though Final Fantasy XIII from Square Enix. Unfortunately, the rest of us have been left waiting for the English-language version, which is due for release on March 9. To ease our collective pain, Square Enix invited us to go hands-on with the final build of the English version on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 at a special event in London.

The event kicked off with a screening of the full intro movie to the game, which showcased the high-quality cinematics and introduced the main characters. The movie began with the camera panning through a deep valley covered in lush vegetation. Three birdlike creatures then flew through the valley, up into the sky, to reveal a vast airborne city, filled with futuristic-looking buildings and vehicles. The screen faded to black and cut to a close-up of the barrel of a gun, which was being held by the main female character, Lightning. The detail in the animation was astonishing, and we could pick out every pink hair on her head. The movie then cut to an underground chamber, the city of Cocoon, where the early stages of the game take place. A huge flying vehicle powered by glowing blue engines swooped across the screen, revealing another female character, Vanille, dressed in a hooded cloak. We were treated to a beautiful scene showing the main characters of the game riding atop a dragonlike creature in a cloudy sky. Next the movie cut between several scenes, showing the various summons in the game. We were able to pick out Shiva and Odin's attacks, before the video cut into an action montage, which ended with Vanille gazing into a valley, complete with giant creatures lumbering across the screen.

While watching Final Fantasy cinematics is always a treat, thankfully the preview event also allowed us to play various sections of the game, the first of which took place in the underground city of Cocoon. Taking control of Lightning, we explored the city, traipsing down narrow walkways. This section of the game was relatively linear. As we ventured down a walkway, every few minutes we would encounter a save point, a floating orb (which is a futuristic reimagining of the simple treasure chest), or a group of enemies. Unlike in Final Fantasy XII, the enemy encounters took place on a separate battle screen, which resembled the surrounding environment. There are no random battles in the game, and enemies can clearly be seen onscreen before you encounter them. However, the walkways in Cocoon were too small for us to squeeze past enemies, and we inevitably ended up fighting everyone that got in our way.

Fortunately, battles are lots of fun, thanks in part to the new battle system. It doesn't rewrite the rule book on turn-based combat but instead offers a faster version of the active time bar system from previous Final Fantasy games. The ATB is now split into segments. Each segment corresponds to an action, and the number of segments indicates how many actions you can chain together. Some actions, such as a simple attack, may use only one segment of the bar, while larger attacks may require two or more segments. Because we were playing with Lightning at a relatively low level, her ATB contained only two segments, so we could chain just two attacks together. As characters level up, they gain more segments in their ATB, allowing them to put together more devastating combos. Attacks in the command menu are split into two sections: manual and auto battle. Manual allows you to pick different attacks to queue up in your ATB timeline, while auto battle selects the most appropriate commands and automatically fills the ATB. We found the auto battle option useful during the early stages of the game, where enemies are relatively weak, and we can see this feature coming into its own when grinding character levels later in the game. We also found the ability to stagger our opponents useful. Staggering is activated by attacking enemies repeatedly, which increases an orange bar above their head. The bar is constantly decreasing, and only sustained attacks are enough to push it to the top and stagger an enemy. Once staggered, enemies took double damage from our attacks, while their attacking power decreased.

Continuing through Cocoon, we took control of Snow and Vanille. The game alternates between the characters, who are all on a different path through the city. Each of the characters specializes in a different weapon. Lightning uses a gun sword called Blade Edge, Vanille uses a bizarre fishing rod weapon, and Snow simply attacks with his fists. New weapons are available to buy throughout the game, though we were told that the best way to enhance a character's attack power is to upgrade his or her existing weapons. Different types of organic and mechanical items can be bought at shops, which are accessible via the many save points in the game. Not only are the items cheaper than new weapons, but they allow you to concentrate on increasing specific weapon attributes, such as attack power. Another way to power up your characters is with the crystarium system. Crystarium is accessible at any time from the main menu and lets you upgrade a character's attributes, such as magic ability, or increase a character's accessory slots . The system is similar to Final Fantasy X's sphere grid in that increasing one attribute opens up more areas to upgrade. Upgrades cost a certain number of crystarium points, but more points are awarded after each battle.

Square Enix also showed us a number of other locations from the game. We skipped ahead to a section from chapter six, titled Chain of Events. The chapter took place in a town called Palumpolum, where we took control of Vanille. This section showed us some of the stealthier elements of the game. We had to use a drainage pipe to sneak into a complex surrounded by guards. We were able to avoid battles by hiding behind boxes when enemies approached, before making a mad dash to the pipe. We could then sneak under guards, and proceed into the complex. Another chapter we saw was Nautilus City of Dreams, a theme park filled with bustling crowds and circus shows. A battle between Snow and a number of guards was taking place just outside the city, which was shown on the TV screens inside Nautilus. Finally, we skipped forward to chapter 11, to the world of Pulse. This area was much larger than earlier parts of the game and was made up of large grass-covered valleys, populated with giant dinosaur-like creatures. Getting around was made easier by a minimap to the right of the screen, showing our current position, along with any side quests that were available. Side quests are accessed via floating panels dotted across the landscape, and we were shown one that required us to hunt down a specific enemy on the map. The reward for doing so was a bunch of valuable items and access to more side quests.

The new active time bar battle system mixes turn-based combat with fast action gameplay.

After getting over the initial shock of playing a Final Fantasy game on the Xbox 360, we found it was difficult to tell the two versions apart. Both look spectacular, with the game's engine creating stunning vistas. As we walked around the environments, we could pick out all the details on our characters' clothes and see their hair floating around in the wind. Battles looked fantastic, with vibrant lighting effects filling the screen during summons. We were constantly reminded that the summons were fully rendered in real time, as it was often difficult to tell whether it was the game engine at work or a full-motion video sequence. Also of note is the lip-syncing during cutscenes. Character animations have been reworked for the English voice acting, so speech lines up perfectly. However, we noticed at this stage that the movies on the Xbox 360 suffered from more compression than on the PlayStation 3, while the Xbox 360 had an overall crisper image quality in the main game.

We're very eager to get our hands on the finished product, which is due for release on the PS3 and Xbox 360 on March 9. Stay tuned to GameSpot for a full review soon.

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Elite39
Elite39

Will this be for PC?

frazzle00
frazzle00

Maybe you hadn't updated your PS3 in a while. Mine didn't update when I switched it on after the incident. Yeah console wars are stupid, but flaming is fun :D. Just have to be careful of the dreaded ban hammer :).

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00...dont know the machine updated my ps3 when i turned it on and never saw that problem at all..dont know but i do agree with your wrpg vs jrpg anology...totally right....and your second post is....ummmmm...wondering...lmfao...cheers mate btw glad your enjoying the game...thats really the most important part of playing games...its not how linear or like some other game it is...cause most games are the same in some shape or form...its the whole package ...console wars are stupid but damn it beats sitting around doing nothing...lol

frazzle00
frazzle00

Oh and in case you're wondering I ended up getting the PS3 version. I have a NTSC/J 360 (I was living overseas when I bought mine) and as you know there is no NTSC/J 360 version of FFXIII :(. I love my achievement points and looking at the PS3 trophies it seems as if they would have been relatively straightforward to get (a lot of them seem to be story based). Oh well, at least the cutscenes are gorgeous. :)

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper40 I actually Googled for the firmware update you were mentioning and found nothing on it. I just pasted the Gamespot link since we are, after all, discussing stuff on Gamespot. In fact Giant Bomb makes no mention of a firmware update here: http://www.giantbomb.com/news/hey-turn-on-your-playstation-3/1892/ It honestly looks like Sony waited for the problem to fix itself. They'll release a firmware update eventually, but there hasn't been one yet. With regards to RPGs, yes, you're right. FFXIII is a JRPG and ME2 is a WRPG. I personally tend to prefer JRPGs since they are more story driven (at the expense of being very linear) whereas WRPGs give the player a lot of freedom and then skimp on story (look at Oblivion and Fallout 3). A linear story driven RPG is always better than a non-linear dungeon crawl in my opinion.

Bioware however, seem to know how to strike the right balance between player freedom and story. Collectively ME 1 and 2 provide an excellent tale, with all the character development, back story, etc. that you could want, a fair bit of freedom, and most importantly a phenomenal combat system.

I have enjoyed my first 2 hours with FFXIII, but the game still has the same issues that have plagued older FF titles, namely silly characters (Snow and Vanille), and some cringe-worthy dialogue (from Snow). WIll still enjoy the game, but I think the two ME titles are on a completely different level RPG-wise.

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00....go read at giantbomb.com...gamespots the only gamesite?....mass effect was awesome but ff13 is a diffeerent kind of rpg...same genre but bioware is a western rpg and square is a japanese rpg...so different....thats what make the rpg genre so fun to play

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper40 How do you know Sony released a firmware update? Sounds like the problem fixed itself once the problem day rolled over. Gamespot makes no mention of any firmware fix: http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/heavyrain/news.html?sid=6252582 I love RPGs. Mass Effect 2 is absolutely brilliant. Should be getting FFXIII sometime soon, but I doubt it'll be anywhere near as good as ME2 :).

rugripper40
rugripper40

heres something interesting...gamestop is running a deal for ff13 and or gow3....trade in 2 old games...theres a list of qualifing games...and get 40 bucks off either game...thats pretty kool

rugripper40
rugripper40

its already been fixed my friend thru a firmware update,its all over the net im surprise you havent research that already...shame,shame...lol....and the last poster was right...out of sync it was...plus if you didnt turn on your ps3 for those 2 days you wouldnt have even noticed this problem...ps3 still runs great....2 more days till ff13...should be a blast to play if you like rpgs that is...lol frazzle00 Posted Mar 7, 2010 12:19 am ET @moridin800 You could be right. Either way it is a tad scary that something like this could invalidate quite a few of our purchases. Hopefully Sony do something to fix this.

frazzle00
frazzle00

@moridin800 You could be right. Either way it is a tad scary that something like this could invalidate quite a few of our purchases. Hopefully Sony do something to fix this.

moridin800
moridin800

@frazzle00 it doesn't of necessity have to be a anti-piracy measure; it could just as easily be an error (which makes sense given that it gave a coded error message) stemming from the inability to properly sync timestamps with another internal process. I'm not saying for sure either way, I don't know, it COULD be an DRM system, but I've never seen any releases from sony or any third party reports stating that it is an anti-piracy measure.

frazzle00
frazzle00

Why would you put your LPs on a radiator? You do realize you would just as easily ruin a tape or a CD? Jeez dude how old are you again ;)?

rugripper40
rugripper40

lmfao...it would be nice huh?.....i think cloud848 is wrong...i think this game is only 720p on both systems...if it is 1080p,thats what im talking about...that would be sweet and again ps3 would reign king again...oh thats right...oops... im waving my banner again...lol...ipod...lol..dont own one...and albums suck...ive melted more on radiators then you are old...lol...they make great frisbees though @frazzle00 You on the other hand have been waving Sony's banner like crazy. Do they pay you for all this hype? It would sure beat getting welfare checks

Cloud848
Cloud848

Damn.. you guys are sad. only difference between the 2 games is the resolution ps3=1080p, 360=720p. But, don't you 2 guys think you could have spent your time more productively elsewhere? instead of arguing over the internet? Just enjoy the game as it will be an absolute winner :)

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper40 1) Sorry buddy but have you actually listened to a well taken care of LP on a good player. I guess not, but who can blame a 10-15 year old for not having access to a LP player. It's ok little buddy, go back to your iPod :). 2) You brought up this article. You said that this article stated that the 360 version of FFXIII had problems and the PS3 version did not. This is obviously not what the article has said. Read it again. You can do that right? 3) Sure Pong is an easy example of something old that isn't very good. How about a game like Xenogears? Chrono Trigger? Final Fantasy VI? I'd take them over FFXIII any day of the week. :) 4) If anyone is doing the protecting it is you. I haven't said the PS3 sucks. I haven't criticized the PS3 version of FFXIII. All I have said is the 2 versions look very similar. You on the other hand have been waving Sony's banner like crazy. Do they pay you for all this hype? It would sure beat getting welfare checks 8).

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00....." The Xbox 360 had an overall crisper image quality in the main game."...hype....they had to say something since the 360 has issues wth the game...so they have to appease the masses...well see on tuesday whats what....thx for the spellcheck...and yeah albums sucks...freaking scratch sounds while you listen sucks...8-tracks to cassettes to cds are a much better format...its called technology...its always better..we have come a long way since pong or would you rather play that game...lmfao....you have to be a student somewhere...thats ok...come to gamespot and learn how to spell again...thats kool...lol...you think your right about my age...your hilarious...i cant even spell half the words that i speak with...too funny...have fun protecting your box...lol

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper40 1) You really don't do any research before you post your garbage. Dude look at all the frame rate tests done. The 360 version has been shown to have a more stable frame-rate. Find me an article from any professional review site that states that the 360 version stutters MORE than the PS3 version. Good luck little buddy 8). 2) If anyone could do with more reading it's you little buddy. Firstly it is decipher. Secondly not all newer technology is better. Why is vinyl still considered by many audiophiles to be preferable to CD when it comes to audio fidelity? An "old" guy like you should know that. 8) 3) Ah, I can cut and paste selectively too. Here, let me have a go: " The Xbox 360 had an overall crisper image quality in the main game." Hmmm seems the 360 version is better ;).

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00....bottom line...360 has problems with this game...ps3 has none...they could both look good but the 360 version has a stuttering problem like my old grandpappy...god rest his worried soul btw b4 you start putting up links about compression issue...please read below...lol...dvd is like what reel to reel was to vinyl albums....newer technology is always better...better look on the net for that answer if you dont comprehend...litterary skills...bah humbug...im a rocker not a bookworm..lol...as alice cooper said...schools out forever btw...please read and comprehend your own post...you said.."However, we noticed at this stage that the movies on the Xbox 360 suffered from more compression than on the PlayStation 3".....dude thats a nice way of twisting the truth...360 version suffers..."suffers" is the key word here...just wanted to help you out..dont have to be an english major to disypher that....you can tell me thx later...cheers

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper40 1) Firstly it is misspelled pwned and not pawned. 2) You could well be 10. Your literary skills seem to suggest so, 3) Where in this article does Gamespot say that the 360 version has problems? In fact this is what they say: "After getting over the initial shock of playing a Final Fantasy game on the Xbox 360, we found it was difficult to tell the two versions apart. Both look spectacular, with the game's engine creating stunning vistas." and "However, we noticed at this stage that the movies on the Xbox 360 suffered from more compression than on the PlayStation 3, while the Xbox 360 had an overall crisper image quality in the main game." So according to them both versions look very similar with the 360 version having crisper gameplay graphics and the PS3 version having superior cutscenes. Extrapolating from these statements that FFXIII has been gimped because of the 360 is illogical. Please dude, you make Dr. Watson look like Holmes 8).

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00...pawned....havnt heard that since the 90 s...and no im 10...pure speculation...big words my friend but isnt pure speculation the same as an observation...but anyways gamespot states in this article that the 360 has problems vs the ps3 has none....thats where i got my deduction from sherlock

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper40 Shows how much you know. That video was made this month. It was part of Eurogamer's comparison between the PS3 and 360 versions of FFXIII. A comparison that ended in them stating that the PS3 version was graphically superior. It's clear however from your previous post, that you too can't see any difference between the two versions. Sorry buddy but you've been pwned :). And btw nothing you've said is logical. All you have provided is pure speculation that contradicts all the evidence available. You sure you're 49 years old? 8)

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00....lmao...yeah ok thats a real video...give me a break...that comparision has been out since e3 last year...its fake just like the e3 killzone2 demo we saw...hype...live by the net die by the net...lol...have fun with your micro burner my friend...this is going to play sweet on my ps3....hey thats a great new name for the new 360...the micro-burner...lmfao...if you use it,you owe me.... big green...lol....thats a kool name and you can hype it up and say its beyond good,its so fast...lol....or flip the coin and sell it like a bic lighter...disposible and back up what???...no towns???...dumbed down but why i ask???...its logical...multiplatformed to an inferior format...case closed...lmfao....sry dude i dont want to get you too frazzled

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper40 1) Please find proof to back up your claim that Square-Enix "dumbed down" FFXIII because it went multi-platform. Good luck with that. 2) Plenty of sites have reviewed Star Ocean International on the PS3. The biggest difference between the PS3 version and the 360 version is that the PS3 version comes with the option of using the original Japanese voice tracks. Instead of showcasing your ignorance you should go and do some of your own research first. 3) Here is a video (in 720p) of the PS3 and 360 versions of FFXIII running side by side (including a frame rate analysis). I personally see no difference. http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-360-vs-ps3-performance-analysis

rugripper40
rugripper40

lmfao...and you know what square was thinking huh??...dont be ignorant yourself...guess im going to have to deal with it,huh???...and ff13 was a ps3 exclusive till microsoft handed over the bag of money...lol btw you even think no towns is weird...so do i....why???...cause now the game is dumbed down cause they had to multiplatform to an inferior format...which is the wonderful compression of the dvd disc...dvd today is what cassettes were to dvd music back in the day...or albums were to 8-track tapes...if you even know what they are...lol....cheers mate oh and its weird that i havent seen a new review of star ocean international on the ps3...i guess its that much better then the 360 version.why havent these gamesites posted it yet...funny thing huh???...not ignorant nor a fanboy,i just have an inquiring mind...you should too...peace homestarmy6 Posted Mar 5, 2010 3:29 am ET @rugripper40 um saying the game didn't have towns because of the 360 is an ignorant statement and you sir are a ra-tard...ff13 doesn't have towns because they didn't want it to...yeah its weird and dumb but thats what they want it so deal with it and quit with this gay ass fanboy stuff it's really annoying...nothing was dumbed down because of the xbox and ff13 was NEVER ORIGINALLY A PS3 EXCLUSIVE that was sony's arrogance

deltron3131
deltron3131

why is there no review or anything at all talking about this game wtf its a final fantasy better yet its a first fantasy for the x box community it comes out in just a few days and all that gets talked about it are a few demo videos wtf. it was months before mag came out and there were tons of videos telling you what you were getting into. is it to much to ask for on a game review site maybe a review for a game thats coming out in a few days we all know someone at gamespot must have played this by now

BladeTrinity114
BladeTrinity114

@homestarmy6 I agree completely. Why are you PS3 fanboys bothered? I mean we all have our versions, and I don't give one about the PS3 version being slightly better.. In fact with the current tech, I don't know why all Multiplatform games aren't exactly the same. There's really no excuse anymore..

homestarmy6
homestarmy6

@rugripper40 um saying the game didn't have towns because of the 360 is an ignorant statement and you sir are a ra-tard...ff13 doesn't have towns because they didn't want it to...yeah its weird and dumb but thats what they want it so deal with it and quit with this gay ass fanboy stuff it's really annoying...nothing was dumbed down because of the xbox and ff13 was NEVER ORIGINALLY A PS3 EXCLUSIVE that was sony's arrogance to say it was and square enix never said it was going to be from the beginning hence why there is now a xbox version so get over it and who freakin cares because i know you're not playing it on the 360 so why would you even care which one will be this and that you have your version and everyone else has theirs and it will be the same exact game and if you want to believe that your copy of the same exact game that everyone else has in the world then fine but seriously dude quit being a tool and saying ignorant comments and let everyone enjoy w/e version they want to have...

Kevindudedafa
Kevindudedafa

Yes I'm a fanboy, and I mean that the PS3 version certainly has better graphics overall

dalebridger
dalebridger

I'm just grateful that square have decided to launch on XBOX its about time to! I don't see why there will be a great difference in the graphics either ported or not the game will still look awesome on either consoles, they really aren't that different from each other.

Aritic_Fox
Aritic_Fox

I bought the ps3 for the exclusives,mainly for final fantasy, that was one of the main factors in buying a ps3 over a 360. I've waited something like 4 years for this coz they keep pushin it back, i've still seen no sign of Grand Turismo release (was it meant to be a launch title?). I think its pretty ridiculous that final fantasy xiii has gone multiplatform, squaresoft have shown no loyalty to Sony and are just cashin in as much as they can, especially with something like a Leona Lewis soundtrack. So yeah, i'm hoping there's some graphical advantage to the ps3 version over the 360. Don't get me wrong i'm happy you 360 users are getting final fantasy, that's great. But i think us ps3 users are justified in wanting a little something extra considering its was once supposed to be a ps3 exclusive.

homestarmy6
homestarmy6

I would take gameplay graphics over cut scenes any day...xbox version it is for me...

kuda001
kuda001

yes it's going to be better on the ps3 than 360. why? its likely the ps3 version was made first, then ported to the 360 after square was given a blank cheque by microsoft. however the difference won't be that big of a deal, compared to the voice acting i hope you can have the option of japanese audio with english subtitles.

SEstolemyyouth
SEstolemyyouth

Why do I always click on these videos on the PS3 tab and get redirected here?

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00....yeah i have no problem with multiple discs...freaking baulders gate had 5 or 6...final fantasy 7 had 3 discs...not a big deal....and oh games that were bought through the network dont play...that makes total sence cause the ps3 wasnt synced right....thats totally sucks...i totally agree and im not 50 yet...lol...ill be 49 in sept....everyone including my mom tells me i need to grow up...i say thats boring...a puppet on a stick ill never be....lol....and no im not always right............and for ff13 trying something new is kind of weird...no towns in a final fantasy game is weird....i figure if it aint broke dont try and fix it or change it like they did to the new command and conquer 4 game....no building,what???....like i said...this game will probably be awesome on anything it plays on...square games are always kool...wish they would remaster alot of there older games in hd and put them up for sale...people dont think...square has so many great rpg games that many people have missed because they were in the last gen....,kindom hearts is one of those games

CrystalEdgen
CrystalEdgen

What!! Is it true that this game was dumbed down cuz of XBox?!?!?! Normally I have nothing against XBox but if this is true then I think it's time I start hating Microsoft. If not, well then everything's fine and dandy. PS.- I still believe the PS3 version is better.

Evo8u
Evo8u

Plasticks from ur 1080p comment you are completely misinformed and Im laughing at u. The ps3 version is 720p in game and only runs in 1080p during CG cut scenes. The 576p thing for the 360 version I'll do a comparison when the game is out because where the 360 has the ability to upscale all of its games to 1080p the the ps3 does not so that will improve the looks of the game along with doing the disk installs.

Plasticks
Plasticks

Can someone please tell me how to delete a comment? Please

Plasticks
Plasticks

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ViciousWayz
ViciousWayz

btw I'm probably not gonna check back here so if you have something to say, message me or else you're just talking to yourself =)

ViciousWayz
ViciousWayz

I'll probably get this for the PS3, just because my PS3 is a bit neglected and my 360 has one of the best RPG's of all time, Mass Effect 2 (I usually prefer western-style RPG's over JRPG's simply because they are more "mature" in the storyline, character depth, etc.... but FFXIII will be an exception, however I am not expecting to like it more than the Mass Effect series. Yes, two totally different types of RPG's, but I prefer one over the other. But now that GS is saying that the 360 has crisper in-game graphics is making me wonder which I'd prefer.. smoother cutscenes (I don't care about changing discs) or smoother overall graphics (in-game, which is where you will spend most of your time). I'll probably still get it for the PS3, just because like I said... my PS3 is feeling RPG neglected. Heavy Rain is one of the best games I've played in a while, which is for PS3 only... however there's only a handful of great PS3 only games while there's a ton of 360 ones. Either way, you can't go wrong (I know fanboys of any system will say so, but take it from someone with an unbiased opinion, the graphics look great for this game and it's interesting. Worse comes to worse if it's too "girlie" for my tastes like many JRPG's seem to be IMO, I'll give it to my girl to play LOL. Either way, I'm picking up a copy.

Plasticks
Plasticks

Now i'm no fanboy. But i can give you ten reasons why the ps3 is best than the 360. 1) It has blu ray 2) It looks much cooler than the xbox £) it has loads of processors compared to the xbox and the graphics are 1080p. thats right 1080p not 520p or whatever the xbox is. Its like looking at blocks. how do i know this. i played final fantasy xiiii at the xbox convention. Before you say i'm a fanboy, i'm not, i have both a ps3 and 360.

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper Normally yes, you are right. Trophy support does not require your PS3 being connected. BUT the issue in this situation was the PS3's system clock was registering a time that was not compatible with local trophy data as well as PSN purchases. Therefore, whether or not the user was logged in, they could not access either games with trophy support or their PSN purchases. As to the whole multiple disc issue, dude if you really are 50, and you've been playing games for decades, then you'll have no problems with games on multiple discs. Remember the Final Fantasy titles on the PS1, or for that matter Myst and Wing Commander IV. It wasn't an issue back then, and it is not an issue now. Square-Enix have decided not to have towns or much NPC interaction in FFXIII. According to them it was simply too difficult to implement. It is also for this reason that they've suggested a remake of FFVII would be impractical. The 360 is not the issue here.

frazzle00
frazzle00

@moridin800 Yes the PS3's internal clock was the source of the problem with the leap year bug resulting in the system clock setting itself back to 12/31/1999. Now, I reckon, that as part of some inbuilt anti-piracy measure, if the system clock does not match whatever timestamps are associated with either the trophy data or PSN purchases, the user gets locked out from using their PS3 fully. Both games with trophy support and PSN purchases (games, themes, videos etc.) were simply not available both offline and on. I reckon this particular security measure is pretty draconian. Yeah it may be easy to fix with a firmware update, but will Sony do it?

IncrediBurch
IncrediBurch

I'm glad to hear visual discrepancy is at a minimum. I settled for the 360 version instead of buying a PS3 to play the game the way I thought it was intended. I can deal with compressed videos, hopefully. It's noticeable, but does it hurt the experience? I'll have to judge that for myself.

tyco_ex
tyco_ex

I only own a ps3 and a wii, but I'm not going to try and say that the 360 version is why there is no towns. The only thing that MAY have been cut from the game due to the 360 not having enough space (they're using 3 compressed dvds....) are the japanese voices with English subtitles, which really, who besides 20 people actually care? I even watch all my anime in japanese with english subs but Final Fantasy has always had fine english voices so I'm not worried. The reason there is no towns is because they wanted to make a game that was different, rather than just use the same old rpg formula with new stuff, again. There is an interview with one of the developers that explains this but I can't find it atm.

moridin800
moridin800

From what my understanding of the issue was, Sony's trophy system was never designed to be any form of DRM; the error stemmed from internal clock errors which messed up trophy support. While it prevented players from playing the game, I don't believe it was ever any effort by Sony to implement a DRM system, the game program was only attempting to set up the trophy system to record players achievement date/times and was unable to resolve it due to the error, causing it to crash. If PSN / trophy's are ever taken down, all it should take is a quick firmware fix to allow gamers to continue playing their PS3 games.

rugripper40
rugripper40

@frazzle00....well the gamesites are wrong...all ps3 games have trophies that i own...work if your online or off...or i have a special ps3 which i doubt....and no...not a fanboy comment...a final fantasy game without towns...which one is that one?...ill tell you...the multiplatform ff13 game..but why??...thats the question im asking...and the only conclusion i can think of is the 360 cant compress anymore files without adding more and more discs to the game....the ps3 s bluray probably has 25 gbs left on bluray disc and could have added that content to the game fairly simple...square made a big mistake jumping ship but guess what??...there bacccckkkk...lol....this game looks awesome though btw...like i told someone else...the net is full of hype,lies,and misinformation...some is factual but believe what you see in person not what you read...thats why we have libraries full of fiction and non fiction books..but at least those are labeled...lol..lots of imagination in this world and the dirty word for the day is...mass marketiing...lol

frazzle00
frazzle00

@rugripper Gamespot, IGN, Eurogamer and Kotaku all confirmed that people could not play any trophy games whether or not they were online. As to FFXIII being dumbed down because of the 360. Now that's a fanboy comment dude. Is it really necessary?

Happylife45
Happylife45

dun worry sony recently just fixed up the bug problems they say its k to play online agn 5 MORE FRICKING DAYS!! OMG!!!

rugripper40
rugripper40

@Happylife45....yeah its been a good time...gaming keeps you young...too many parents stressed out...not me rockin like a superstar...lol @frazzle00...i think your wrong with the ps3 not working at all cause the trophies wont load...i remember a couple of times my trophies errored out but the game still loaded...if trophies are your thing,that would suck but for me i could care less...i game to beat the game,not for incentives...lol...and yeah...final fantasy 13 looks freaking awesome but no towns...im wondering how good it is...this is a rpg?...no towns?...what?...sounds more to me like an action adventure game with rpg elements...well see...hope they didnt rush this game too or dumb it down cause the 360 has a dvd drive...3 discs no towns...with towns 6 discs....thats another problem with the 360....its like an old pc game b4 they went to dvd...lol