Final Fantasy XIII 'completed' for US, EU

Director Motomu Toriyama says the Western version of the long-awaited JRPG is awaiting final approval, on track to launch March 9; international trailer inside.

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Nearly four years after it was first unveiled at the 2006 Electronic Entertainment Expo, the Western edition of Final Fantasy XIII appears to be done. The news came this morning via a post on the official UK site for the game, which sold more than 1 million units in 24 hours when it launched in Japan on December 17.

Lightning is the main hero in Final Fantasy XIII.

In the aforementioned post, director Motomu Toriyama declared that the "Final Fantasy XIII overseas version is finally completed. I am sorry for the long wait. At present members of the development team in Japan are on a New Year holiday while waiting an approval of the master disc." He offered no updates on the game's two spin-offs, Final Fantasy Versus XIII (PlayStation 3) and Final Fantasy Agito XIII (PSP).

With the English-language version nearly gold, it appears that Final Fantasy XIII will indeed hit its March 9 launch date in Europe and North America. Though it was released only for the PS3 in Japan, the role-playing game will be available simultaneously on Sony's console and the Xbox 360 in the West. In the US and Canada, it has been rated T for Teen by the ESRB for a variety of reasons, including the inclusion of "holographic dancers clad in bikini tops, skimpy leotards, and backless chaps."

Semi-salacious imagery aside, Final Fantasy XIII will be set in Cocoon, a floating human city built by an ancient race of massive mechanical beings embedded with magical crystals. Players will control a band of resistance fighters battling Cocoon's theocratic government--while simultaneously trying to protect the city from looming doom from outside.

GameSpot's hands-on preview offers a more detailed look at Final Fantasy XIII, its elaborately coiffed characters, and its gameplay mechanics.

Discussion

344 comments
deustchin
deustchin

this game is a beautiful dissapointment to me.beautifl videos,linear gameplay,no towns,minigames,side quests.one big NOTHING.

Kou-Nurasaka
Kou-Nurasaka

So I actually went to the ESRB's website and looked at thier description for FXIII, but it sounded like a Saw movie. They said that game depicted the most violent and graphic forms of violence, which included humans and -robots- killing each other. Now, seriously, when was the last time that Final Fantasy ever showed a death scene with blood? The only real "death" was Aeris(th) in FFVII. ESRB has way too much time on thier hands.

PureSlurpee
PureSlurpee

anyone wanna trade with me i have the game but its on japanese i cant understand it T.T

magusat999
magusat999

@AngelCage-2 I'm going to have to eat crow on this one and admit that I may be wrong. I haven't checked on the Yiazmat progress for a long time and I went to the link you gave and found ample proof that he can and has been beaten in the times you said. I don't know if you actually did it, but I do have to say that it isn't impossible that you did, because there is a technique that anybody can use. Hey - I never said I was perfect! Even I can be wrong every once in a while - lol. So in this case you are right, AngelCage-2 and I have to apologize to you for my position on the matter. Now it's time to dust off my FFXII disk and get to beating Yiazmat - I stopped there because I didn't have time to sit there for 6 hours in one boss fight! I still think hours long boss fights are ridiculous, but I will tolerate it because otherwise I think the game is great and I'd like to continue playing it. Kudos, AngelCage-2! And thanks for the help, intentional or not.

AngelCage-2
AngelCage-2

@magusat999 I'm sorry, you ask for a youtube video from me or another person? Well, you should seach for it before claiming there was not such thing: Look at this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJUeoJ2dbXg the whole strategy, well documented and explained. I think that i have anything else to say (finally x_x)

AngelCage-2
AngelCage-2

@magusat999 Oh, one more thing. If you know so much about FFXII, you SHOULD know two thing: 1: It's possible to kill yiazmat with a really low level party (if i can remember well, Square-Enix have said that you could kill him with a level 1 party :P but i could be wrong) 2: You should know about Final Fantasy XII Ultimania Omega's 50 minute Yiazmat battle strategy (wich is a book published by Square Enix). That's rigth: kill yiazmat on 50 minute. I just took the strategy and vary it a little, i have never aimed at a 1 hour battle. i just modify the strategy a little bit to make things a little less straigh forward. to feel the challenge even with a 2 hours battle. If you wanna se the guide, i think that there's a traduction or something on gamefaqs... Game mechanics guide i think. and i think that i saw a traduction of the whole book someday... can't remember where.

AngelCage-2
AngelCage-2

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AngelCage-2
AngelCage-2

@magusat999 i know perfectly who is Yiazmat, Hell wyrm and behemoth king.... I beat the crap out of behemot king in 30 minutes more or less U_U And of course i can't prove it for myself... i will not play trough the whole game again just to record a 2 hours video of me, killing Yiazmat. And about nobody claiming such time to beat him: http://www.finalfantasyforums.net/zanarkand-ruins/what-s-your-time-and-strategy-for-yiazmat-4096.html there are a guy claiming a 3 hours time, http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=459841&topic=47497172 Annother guy claiming a 2+ hours time... and in gamefaqs too, on the mark hunting guide by Trowabartan he say (talking about yiazmat): "To give you an example of how much time it takes to bring this guy down a 2 hour kill is considered fast. Expect it to take 5 hours or more depending on level." 2 hours = FAST! the fisrt time i played trhoug the game it took me something like 5-6 hours to beat him, at level 70-75 maybe. On a power walktrough wit main characters at level 99, others at level 80 and everyone with the best equipmet available (and usefull for the figth) i kill him in something like 2:15. Just for the record, i never leave the coloseum are, revive/heal and come back again. NEVER. Maybe it took so much time for you to beat him cause you leave the battle area a lot. "

magusat999
magusat999

@AngelCage-2 I did not say that Yiazmat was FFX... ughh! Obviously I mentioned Yiazmat without saying which FF it was in because you already stated that you beat him in two hours - it was not necessary to then repeat which one he came from because it was a known factor already. Anyway, I serious doubt that you beat Yiazmat - that it the LAST Mob Hunt located in the Ridorana Cataract, Colosseum, not the Hell Wyrm in Sochen Cave Palace or the Behemoth King in the The Feywood at The Edge of Reason (snow area). I think you have confused Yiazmat with Behemoth King. Yiazmat has 50 million life, Behemoth King has 4 million. Behemoth King might take you an hour or two, but nobody can or has claimed to beat Yiazmat in 2 hours - that's unsubstantiated, and I bet you cannot prove it or show me someone else (like on Youtube) that has done that without controversy (video trickery). I dont know about you - but 6 hours fighting the same boss is quite monotonous to me. Behemoth King was monotonous and he doesn't even begin to scratch the surface on how long you going to be parked there fighting Yiazmat.

AngelCage-2
AngelCage-2

@magusat999 Eh? o_O You like me isn't? Yiazmat=FFXII, not FFX U_U Have beated FFX something like 15 times, multiple challenges and all. Have beated FFXII like 4 times... not much in the challenge department if you ask me. Let's see. I kill yiazmat on 2++ hours. Not more than 2:15... how? Brute force: Ashe, Vaan and Bash at 99 with ultimate equipment; the other people at 75 with just good equipment. Try him in that conditions... 2:15-2:45 ... 2:15 it's my BEST time with him... i can't kill the pesky bastard always like that, only on a regular, powerleveling walktrough. Of course, i don't have the experience as you playing RPG (and i don't take the whole thing too seriously neither) but i can't call Yiazmat figh boring or repetitive... if you know how the figth goes on, you HAVE to know that he changes his strategy multiple times and that FORCE you to change in response. Boring or repetitive: HELL NO!

magusat999
magusat999

@AngelCage-2: Cont - 3 of 3... Love is saving someone from getting eaten at this point -- not sharing mushy stories and finding a field of flowers to make out. We don't want Leon to "find himself", we want him to stay deranged so he can be the killing machine necessary to fight battle after battle of waves of monsters. It's unrealistic to wrap love stories into every theme - and repetitive too. Not to mention BORING and uncreative.

magusat999
magusat999

@AngelCage-2: Cont from last... (that's why I don't mind grinding and random battles) not social messages and afterschool love stories. If I want that I'll go see a movie, not play a game. And that's why I have turned to Western RPGs - at least they haven't forgotten the Dungeon and Dragon history of RPGs. Every once in a while a gamer just wants to get in there and kill something, without mushy sentiments dripping in. And that's another reason why they are beating the pants off of JRPG companies like Square. Isn't it irritating when a man and a woman is trying to escape from a monster who is hot on their trail, in a monster movie, and they stop somewhere and start making out or even making love? Don't you say to yourself - why in the heck are they doing that now - the monster is right around the corner! But somehow the monster obeys the "do not disturb" sign on the crate they are hiding in, and resumes chasing them after the love scene is over... It is unnatural - who would stop do do anything when Jeepers Creepers is even in the same COUNTY, much less right there in the same building. NOBODY in their right mind would be thinking about "love" - it's SURVIVAL TIME. By the same token, there are monsters in Final Fantasy games - usually thousands of them taking over the entire world and around every corner. The only thing that people would be, and should be concerned about is surviving and getting rid of them.

magusat999
magusat999

@AngelCage-2: I have been playing RPGs since they came out, and before that Dungeons and Dragons - on paper. It is my game of choice and I've played many, many, games. So I consider myself an avid player. I do not consider a 6 hour+ battle in any case fun or challenging - more less boring, repetitive, gruelling, patience testing and totally unnecessary. And I call bullstuff on that statement that you beat Yiamat in 2 hours - nobody has done that even with the Zodiac Spear. I'm wondering if you actually even played FFX, by your comments. I went into Sin at about level 50 and maxed out my levels before ever reaching the first mini-boss in the area. Since you didn't have this experience by your own admission, there's no way you can rebuff what I say. And yes you do know one person who didn't think the water scene was cute - ME. I hated Yuna and the fact that she was the "caller", summoner or whatever the heck they called her. I liked the old system where each character could call a summons or two (like FFVII). You post doesn't change the fact that Square keeps coming out with these silly, mushy, poorly written "love stories" and they really need to stop. The Final Fantasies up to FFVII were more about saving the world, honor and vengeance - themes I can sink my teeth into. Now they are concentrating on making these "appealing characters", cutesy crap and juvenile love. I am attracted to RPGs for adventure, fantasy, monster killing and fighting... CONT>

AaronMK
AaronMK

"The English voices are excellent. Stop being a typical dub basher because dubs aren't always bad." That remains to be seen, and is hard to judge on the basis of a trailer. Dubs may not always be bad, but if the performance of the original actors is the reference standard, then there is only so good a dub can be. It looks like they redid the lip movements as well, so at least the actors and translators are not having to walk the "lip syncing" tightrope. Assuming well chosen actors doing a good job with a faithful translation, removing that tightrope removes a lot of the objections I personally have with dubbing. If they are indeed saving 13 GB by compressing the audio, there might not be enough space even on the Blu-ray for both language tracks. Or maybe the could have used the lossy English dub while keeping the lossless Japanese track (along with subtitles and original lip animations, of course) as a bonus for PS3 owners. ;)

AaronMK
AaronMK

"But if the game requires that much space [3 DVDs] on Xbox 360, we don't know that the PS3 version on only one disc will have all sorts of 'uncompressed' audio and video or not." Even though a vast majority of the cut scenes are rendered on the fly via the game engine, uncompressed video for ANY Blu-ray application is highly unlikely. Uncompressed audio is feasible. FWIW, I put the Japanese PS3 disc in the Blu-ray drive on my PC. It reported 40 GB of data. The reported 3 DVDs for the Xbox version would max out at 27 GB. They are downgrading something to recover those 13 GB. Using lossy audio seems like a natural choice, as does encoding the video at lower bitrates. They might also use less detailed models. Only they know for sure, but whatever they did, people who have seen both versions say the XBox 360 experience remains transparent. "...the HDTV would upconvert the 1920x1080i signal to 1920x1080p using 3:2 Pulldown technology." I think you mean a line doubling technology. 3:2 pulldown adapts 24 fps "progressive scan" material, such as film, for viewing on 30 fps interlaced displays.

icecold49
icecold49

Love the song in the video. @tarn97 What are you talking about "dreadful English dubbing"? The English voices are excellent. Stop being a typical dub basher because dubs aren't always bad.

tarn97
tarn97

I hope they would have the option to have Japanese voice speaking but have english subtitling because i find it better than the dreadful English dubbing, like you had this option in Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Enchanted Arms

Rinoa_Bunansa
Rinoa_Bunansa

And thank God that FF XIII runs the same on both gaming systems, the PS3 and the 360.

wolfshino
wolfshino

I can not wait to play FFXIII I hope the the story is good, hopefully FFXIII story could be better than FFVII,makeing something the fan can remember

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@MTMind2, You are 100% correct about the Xbox 360 being able to do true "native" 1920x1080p resolution for games. The person giving you a hard time is definitely incorrect. I have personally given that gamer the same information as you are giving him, but it just doesn't matter to that person for some reason. I just want to reinforce and support what you are saying with several games, including a new one that will once again confirm that Xbox 360 can have true 1920x1080p Native Resolution for games: * NBA Street Homecourt - 1920x1080p Native Resolution * Virtua Tennis 3 - 1920x1080p Native Resolution * Super Streetfighter 2 Turbo HD - 1920x1080p Native Resolution * Perfect Dark - 1920x1080p Native Resolution Perfect Dark has not yet been released, but it is already receiving lots of publicity because of the fact that it runs in true 1920x1080p native resolution. Perfect Dark will continue to receive more and more publicity as the release of the game draws near, so just remind people of Perfect Dark as proof. Also, the Xbox 360 can display 1080p in both HDMI and Component. It is just a matter of whether or not your HDTV set can "accept" the 1080p resolution from a Component source. I know that Samsung HDTV sets "accept" 1080p signals through Component input, and I know that brands like Sony and Philips don't. It is just a question of whether or not the manufacturer is willing to pay the copyright costs to make that modification. Believe it or not, the term "1080p" can actually be tricky and deceptive. For example, the first generation of 1080p HDTV sets with HDMI inputs would only "accept" a 1920x1080i signal from HDMI sources, and then the HDTV would upconvert the 1920x1080i signal to 1920x1080p using 3:2 Pulldown technology. Another example is the way that at least one of the upcoming PS3 games is using the term "1080p" for marketing purposes--implying that the game is 1920x1080p when in fact it is not. Sony refers to Gran Turismo 5 as a game that is "1080p" but this is not the case at all. Gran Turismo 5 has a native resolution of 960x1080p, which is very different from 1920x1080p. 960x1080p has only half the number of horizontal lines of resolution. This ends up displaying the exact same number of pixels as 1920x1080i. Also, as far as Final Fantasty 13 goes, if the rumors are true about the game being 3 DVD discs in size, it means Final Fantasy 13 is the second-largest RPG game on Xbox 360 (only Lost Odyssey with 4 DVD discs is bigger). But if the game requires that much space on Xbox 360, we don't know that the PS3 version on only one disc will have all sorts of "uncompressed" audio and video or not. Remember, the developers at Konami pointed out that one dual-layer Blu-ray actually was not enough space for what they wanted with MGS4. I agree that it will be interesting to see how things work out.

SalarianChemist
SalarianChemist

@MTMind2, Recently there is quite a bit of rumor saying that Final Fantasy XIII Versus is only going to be released in Japan and nowhere else. I agree with you that that it will be interestint to see what the future holds.

UnknownForm
UnknownForm

As long as they don't make a last minute delay, I can't WAIT!!!!!!!

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 who said "well idc about 1080p honestly because most of the games look horrible on it since the frame rate messes up pretty badly im happy at 720 for now" Agreed 100%. :-) And yes, let's see how FFXIII versus turns out (I hope we get some more info soon).

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@mtmind2 well idc about 1080p honestly because most of the games look horrible on it since the frame rate messes up pretty badly im happy at 720 for now both version will be good i hope they are both the same i don't wanna hear stupid comparisons because i know gamespot will do one and start a horrible flamewar. Like i said before i will wait for versus lol and hopefully they announce kingdom hearts 3 thats the only games im waiting for by square then they burn in hell for all i care except nomura

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 Yes, you're right that you didn't say the 360 version will suck, hence I sincerely apologise for putting words in your mouth there. But I had to question your comment that "ff13 in the cut scenes look better on the ps3" because as I mentioned, this would only be for recorded video, whereas most of the cut scenes are realtime. And yes, the 360 version is about money. Nothing wrong with that. :) And I would clarify that the guy in the video you mentioned is correct...for non 1080p sources on the 360! In otherwords (as mentioned), the 360 does not do native 1080p movies, but the PS3 does, therefore what we're seeing in that video is true 1080p mode on the PS3 vs upscaled 1080p mode on the 360. However, if he compared the native 1080p games I mentioned (the ONLY time you have true 1080p on the 360), and magnified the pixels, then he would have seen very little, if any, difference.

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@mtmind2 sigh listen this game was made for the ps3 ok then ported to the 360 its been confirmed how many times by square there is no difference between the ps3 version and ps3 version they both run smoothly. In terms of gameplay they are the exact same now cut scene the ps3 has the advantage there. IDC what version people get he asked me a question of which will look better and i told him the ps3 version will sell more then the 360 without a doubt in my mind and im never the one to talk about sales cause idc im not making money off of it but square enix fails to me hardcore for 1 making ps3 owners wait for the 360 version and 2 they was scared because of money when the ff13 alone in japan has made them a profit already. The whole reason for it being put on the 360 was about money it had nothing to do with getting a new audience anyone who believe that is a fool lol. The game will be the same on the 360 and ps3 there is no difference except cut scenes thats it when did i say the 360 version suck i just stated the ps3 cut scene will look better thats all. Square would never put a bad port or make a 360 version inferior to the ps3 they are very good developers so anyone who says the 360 version will suck is a fool

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 who wrote "oh please regardless of what you say ff13 in the cut scenes look better on the ps3" Er, with all due respect, we don't know that. From my understanding, MOST of the cutscenes in FFXIII will be realtime, i.e. rendered by the game engine, that's what Crystal Tools was designed for. So for those scenes, they should look about the same on both consoles. Where the PS3 has the advantage is in the audio, because it will be uncompressed audio in the PS3 version (hence needs much more space). I expect there will be a small number of videos too, and yes the PS3 will have the advantage of higher resolution movies, but those will be the minority. Let's wait and see shall we. And why do you care which version people will get? I'm not arguing against the PS3 here, since that's the version I would get, but I'm not going to pretend that the 360 version will suck, because it wouldn't.

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 "because the video clearly show what the pixel are uppose to look like so tell me which one was more clearer the PS3 or 360 ?" But the video clearly doesn't show what it looks like with a GAME running. 1080p video on 360 IS UPSCALED. So unless that guy is going to put Virtual Tennis 3 and/or NBA Homecourt in both consoles and THEN compare the pixels, then his comparison is irrelevent.

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@mtmind2 oh yes im wrong lol haha no wonder why microsoft always sticks to saying "hd in games are not necessary" oh please regardless of what you say ff13 in the cut scenes look better on the ps3 and thats the version people will be buying the only thing that has been confirmed to be the same is the gameplay and since the game is basically cut scenes thats exactly the version ppl will get the ps3 not 360

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 - The 360 can for games, but hey, convince yourself that Sega and EA are lying about those games being 1080p on the 360, convince yourself that ALL the reviews that played both games in 1080p were lying. You showed ONE video that didn't even bother to include ANY games in it. Go a find a source, ONE source (not some youtube nonsense) that says Virtual Tennis 3 and NBA Homecourt are not 1080p on the 360. Deny it all you want. You're wrong.

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@mtmind2 The 360 cannot do true 1080p i won't even argue on this topic.... because it is pointless as soon as you google can the 360 do 1080p you will have basically 99 percent of the sources say no it cannot it can only be upscaled to 1080p. This is one argument i won't get into because it can't produced true 1080p ign even used that guy youtube video to discuss that the 360 cannot produce true native 1080p resolution so you have fun believing that nonsense in your head because the video clearly show what the pixel are suppose to look like so tell me which one was more clearer the PS3 or 360 ?

MTMind2
MTMind2

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MTMind2
MTMind2

@flyingteddy who wrote "I read the links you posted and it says it was to reduce game volume..." When I first read that I thought it was about the game's physical size. But I've since been reading more about it on the net, where Isamu Kamikokuryou says content was removed due to "considerations for game volume and overall game balance". Like myself, many assumed game volume referred to the physical size of the game on the disc, but reading it again, it seems more likely he was actually referring the *size* of the game in terms of gameplay hours, not the size in terms of Gigabytes. SE says FFXIII 50-60 hours long for experienced gamers, so with a "full games" content back in, we're talking about over 100 hours!!! Isn't that too long? That's something like, 200 hours for the inexperienced gamer! So I think the game was shorten mostly for game length, not disc space as many assume (hence the Blu-ray disc isn't filled). BTW, each 360 DVD holds just 7GB of game data (1GB is reserved), therefore the game data being 8GB is larger than one 360 game disc, so that's not why the game is 8GB, especially when it's on 3 DVDs on the 360. 8GB is just coincidence. :-)

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 who wrote "i doubt it because the 360 can't do 1080p only upscale to it" Pssst!...PSSST!...Hey you...Yeah you...come over here a minute...I'll let you in on a secret...*looks both ways*... The 360 can do 1080p and has done so since 2006. :) When the 360 was released it was 1080i max, then a year later, a firmware update activated the chip that made 1080p possible on the 360. Virtual Tennis 3 and NBA Street HomeCourt are two native 1080p games on the 360 (look up each game in google, i.e. virtual+tennis+360+native+resolution). Just thought I'd let you know because a lot of gamers still don't realise the 360 can do native 1080p, not just upscaled.

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@langrisser2005 The Ps3 will have better resolution but i don't know if the game is running on 1080p i doubt it because the 360 can't do 1080p only upscale to it but everything is the same except cut scene ps3 resolution for cut scene are suppose to be better idk yet we will wait and see

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@flyingteddy i heard they plan to use the areas as dlc but i don't plan on paying anything unless its free which is most likely although for 360 owners you know microsoft has rules about dlc and will probably force square to make it a cost.

flyingteddy
flyingteddy

@tdawg2594, I read the links you posted and it says it was to reduce game volume, that seems an odd thing to do, does it not, specially if as MTMind2 says the blu-ray isn't even full. But perhaps if it was left to be 50GB, even if the cutscenes were compressed it would still take 4 or 5 DVDs on the 360 and perhaps that was just too much. Maybe there will be an International edition for PS3 with all the content back in, it seems daft to cut out content and not use it for some purpose, and I'd prefer a int version than DLC. And it seems highly convenient that the game size is 8GB which fits nicely into a DVD.....

langrisser2005
langrisser2005

Does anyone know whether the ps3 version will run on 1080p? Whatever version has the better res will be the one i'm getting!

Gabe447
Gabe447

I got a ps3 just for this game, i have a 360 aswell but the day when i play a final fantasy on 360 will be the day i choke to death.

abu_eljod
abu_eljod

Am sorry if i was misunderstood about my previous comment,what i wanted to say is that i enjoyed the japanese voices more than the english voices in the trailers,and thats it

DeathFriction
DeathFriction

I have a 360, but I'm finding out that they took out content for the PS3 because of the multi platforming. That really just ticks me off. I'd rather they just took more time including that content in both consoles, instead of releasing in when they are. I'm guessing a lot of people are going to disagree because they have been waiting so long, but honestly, wouldn't you rather have the content they originally had in store for this game?

Petch1984
Petch1984

Quote- In practical life the wisest and soundest people avoid speculation.

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@mtmind2 well yes very true because this generation of gaming we seen hype killed alot of games then again versus isn't really hype cause we don't really see much about it although im very confident in nomura he is basically like the kojima of ff and he is taking full advantage of the ps3 hardware and none of his games has been failed least so far i liked the cgi cut scence and he did say that versus gameplay will look like the trailer so we will just wait and see =) As long as i get my ff versus and my kingdom hearts 3 idc what square does after lol

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 Hmmm, I don't believe treble-layer (75GB) or quad-layer (100GB) or higher Blu-ray discs are ready for use in the market as yet, currently the maximum is dual-layer (50GB) with larger Blu-ray discs to arrive in the future. It will be interesting to see how FFXIII versus turns out, but I do think gamers should be careful not to overhype it at the expense of FFXIII just because it's a PS3 exclusive, especially when we don't know much about it as yet. :-)

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@mtmind2 well thats what square said and sony has up to a 250 gig blueray disc they are also updating the current one to 33gb if im not mistaken with a simple firmware update then again your are right about one thing because i remember when wada said they where using 100 percent of the ps3 power which turned out to be a total lie so who knows lol but the content is coming out in dlc though im not buying that nonsense i will wait for versus =)

MTMind2
MTMind2

@tdawg2594 who wrote "im talking about areas of the game being removed not cut scenes" Er, but the story/cutscenes goes with all those areas, and therefore removing game areas involves removing cutscenes too. As I've shown, the game itself is only 8GB, so adding those areas back in would not add that much to the game's size, it's the cutscenes that's the 'problem', but a problem that could be solved if they *really* wanted (eg. shorter more condensed cutscenes). The game is 38GB in total, if that's half the game then we could speculate it may have been 70-80GB with everything in. At no time were we led to believe FFXIII would require two 50GB discs, therefore with only about 9GB of space left on the FFXIII PS3 game disc, no way could they have added all the content said to be removed on one Blu-ray disc! Therefore content had to be removed anyway, we just have to speculate over how much of that (if any) is due to the 360. As for what SE have said or haven't said in the past, that's a non issue imo. It's a different gaming world we live in today, things have moved on, therefore I don't see (or smell) anything 'fishy'. Like I said, there's only 9GB of space left on that Blu-ray disc, which I'm almost certain is not enough space for all the content said to be removed. But yes, you're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. :-)

tdawg2594
tdawg2594

@mtminds2 im talking about areas of the game being removed not cut scenes and from what i seen from the game most ppl are complaining about it i only seen one review which gave it a 8.5 but i will wait and see when it comes out to judge it for myself. But im more excited for versus i believe that will be better then 13 but who knows we will wait and see. I'm just saying square never said that statement b4 and now all of the sudden we hear it lol very fishy and i dont wanna hear ppl talk about money because lets remember back with ff7 they went to sony ps1 why because of space of the dvd disc. The whole port thing was basically for money thats it though i have heard both the ps3 and 360 version of the game run smoothly and there are no difference in terms of gameplay. Sorry but im gonna stay with the thought in mind that half the game was removed because of the 360 version thats my point of view there is not other choice in my opinion but everyone else have there own beliefs and i have mine there is no other explanation but im more excited for versus and KH3 =)