Fez II canceled

Phil Fish confirms upcoming sequel not going to be released; "I am done. I take the money and I run. This is as much as I can stomach," he says.

Fez II has been canceled, developer Phil Fish has announced.

"Fez II is cancelled," reads an update on the Polytron website.

"I am done. I take the money and I run," he added. "This is as much as I can stomach. This is isn’t the result of any one thing, but the end of a long, bloody campaign. You win."

On Twitter, Fish said he is getting out of the game industry entirely, "because I choose not to put up with this abuse anymore."

Fez II was announced in early June 2013 at the Horizon Indie Game Conference in Los Angeles. Outside of its existence, not much was known about the game.

The original Fez was released on the Xbox 360 in 2012, after five years of development, and saw a PC release in 2013. Fish's journey to release the game was chronicled in Indie Game: The Movie.

The game has sold 200,000 units on the Xbox 360.

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Just_Tom__
Just_Tom__

He is leaving because he doesn't want to put up with abuse in the games industry? Looking at all these comments from gamers here, I cant say I blame him.

whiteranger23
whiteranger23

While I haven't played Fez, I probably never will due to the fact that I do not want this guy to get one cent of my money. Everything, everything I hear about this guy paints him in a picture where he sounds and acts like a 10 year old. A very whiny little 10 year old who frankly every time I hear something about him just says "Me, me I need attention!" Pass, let's check in on the guy who made Dust: An Elysian Tail 95% by himself. Gee, no whining from him, must be just you

Lpedraja2002
Lpedraja2002

I saw that Indie Game movie and he comes off as an asshole but he did have some legal issues with Fez due to a partnership he had with a very early developer that helped him in the beginning but left the game and after he finished the game he came back looking for a share of his money.  I can understand his frustration but what this dude really needs is to be a better programmer and just man up and make a whole new game.

IanNottinghamX
IanNottinghamX

Phil Fish you are a loser bottom line...in this day and age and this is your biggest problem fuck you loser!

SirApathetic005
SirApathetic005

We'll never know the true story. Not gonna make a rant about why I disagree with him since we don't really know what happened in his experiences in the game industry.

inebriantia
inebriantia

It drives me nuts saying his game was so innovative and unlike anything they've ever played before. He used the same game mechanic as Paper Mario on the Wii. I'm not saying the game is bad, but it wasn't innovative. I enjoyed the game a lot and it was fun. Fish is a jerk though, he has a huge ego, thinks he's above criticism, and just smug. 

Joking or not, you don't insult your customers. That crap he pulled during the Steam sale, where he "thanked the all the cheap people" was a bad move. This is another why using social media sites when you're in a position like him usually leads to trouble. Ask Randy Pitchford and the constant crap he hears on his twitter. He even gets crap just for blocking someone.

anybodykilla15
anybodykilla15

fuck him, it actually sound seems to be a marketing ploy to drive up sales for fez 2. he should stay away from twitter, like anybody needs to know how progress is going or open himself up like that, if he is a sensitive individual. the game industry is much better with his departure, but we all know he will make "triumphant return" and be hailed as brave or whatever.

Russm3083
Russm3083

I'm sorry but depression or being unstable is no excuse for his action's. And never would be abuse is abuse no matter what. Calling gamer's the worst people shows a lack of professionalism. And the little asswipes who are calling people out for mentioning that which I've seen go fuck yourself. I could care less what you think I'm stating a fact if you were in a company and did that publicly you'd be fired. He DESERVED what he got when your in the public eye like that you will have those who like it,those who dislike it and you will always have haters ALWAYS. Whether your just a normal person,or like him a game maker you will have hater's condemning all gamer's and all of those who would by your game shows a childish worthless view not all will treat you that way. I've written stories on sites like DA and others like it before the criticism can be harsh but most of the time if you calm down and examine your work you'll see you likely made some mistakes and some of the criticism is earned some of it of course isn't just ignore those idiot's they'll never be happy. But do not DO NOT insult those who use your product be it a game,story or otherwise they will not deal with that nor should they take it. And thats what's happened here obviously he made a mistake he should of calmed down,learned from it,and grew not just pulled the childish move of "well I'll just quit!" That shows how much a moron he is. I have suffered depression it run's in the family I feel for him I really do but one thing I CANNOT stand is little shit's who use a condition to justify bad treatment of others or bad choices....you weren't forced by it to do that you over reacted in the end YOU still make the choice to act that way no one or nothing else.

x-2tha-z
x-2tha-z

I finished Fez today. Great game. Unlike anything I've played before. It genuinely would be a shame if he left game development. The guy's a genius.

People should stop caring about what people say on social media and just focus on the quality of the games. Fuck Twitter and Facebook and everything like them. And I'm no hypocrite because I don't use any of them.

straightcur
straightcur

does anyone care?  and what the hell is fez?  wasn't he on "that 70s show"

UltraredM
UltraredM

Never heard of Fez before in my life, and I am no stranger to indie games. Ironic considering how much of a "Do you know who the fuck I am?" vibe from this dude.

tgwenz
tgwenz

Win! Mr Beer. That fish smell... gone now. Hope it dont come back 

winshot
winshot

So finally the trolls F**CKED Mr.Fish .....  Hand internet to a bully and see what happened ... Fish got Tweet-Frakked...

wavelength121
wavelength121

Good for him. More power to you, Phil. Gamers are some of the most obnoxious, loud-mouthed, self-entitled ass-hats on the planet, and I respect you for getting in their faces instead of bending over and taking it. More developers should do this. It's hilarious watching uppity players proclaim they are going to boycott this and that to make a statement, as though their stupid hobby is so special or has any merit on the greater scheme of things. And yes, Japanese games do kind of suck, and Phil's sharp response was hilarious. Maybe go ask a Japanese dev for his opinion if you want something clear and thought out kid, lol.

Godspeed in whatever you do next as you are clearly talented. Haters gonna hate, exactly the reason I stick to SP and avoid MP altogether.

Evanrocknuma
Evanrocknuma

It is fine to Criticize fish for his harmful behavior, but for Christ's sake everyone stop bashing him for getting depressed about online hate.  It really does affect some people in a very real way and none of you are anyone to say otherwise.

ggregd
ggregd

Professional people with even a modicum of tact don't say things in a public forum like he did, and they don't react to nonsense like Internet hate the way he did.  People with any common sense know better than to escalate trouble.  He screwed himself and his career with his attitude and comments and he's behaving like a spoiled child taking his ball and going home.  He no doubt wants people to feel guilty and beg him to come back to boost his fragile, yet gigantic, ego.  

Maybe when he grows up he can make some more good games.

Warful
Warful

To the people pissed about Fish's quote "Gamers are the worst fucking people", you clearly haven't played enough games. Most gamers can really be serious dicks like there's no tomorrow. CoD players? Halo fanboys? Console wars? these are some of the most heated discussions(or should I say childish brawls) ever to exist. It's even worse than Star Trek fans debating who's the best Captain of the Enterprise.


Minja92
Minja92

@UltraredM thats strange that u say you're no stranger to indie games when Fez, along side super meat boy and braid, was featured in a movie called "Indie Games: The Movie"

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

@tgwenz Beer is a nobody who believes himself the king and protector of all gaming creativity, with cheap teenager troll insults as arguments.

So far his only achievement is getting a game canceled, yeah, that's quite the achievement. He is no better than Fish.

winshot
winshot

Damn I really was excited about Fez 2 .... Mr.Fish Please do come back...

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

@wavelength121"Gamers are some of the most obnoxious, loud-mouthed, self-entitled ass-hats on the planet"

Did you noticed you made yourself an example of that just by saying it?

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@Evanrocknuma If it's effecting you like that, you don't seek it out.  Fish did at every opportunity by insulting and antagonizing anyone in earshot, which on the internet is THE ENTIRE WORLD.

Warful
Warful

@Evanrocknuma Looking through the barrage he took from the early stages of developing FEZ, I would honestly get affected by that shit too.

ClawsOfSteel
ClawsOfSteel

@ggregd As much as I can't really argue with Fish's original argument, I really like this statement.  I feel though as you have the argument to end all arguments over this controversy.  Talent does not forgive anything, and he has to suffer the rest of his life having himself and his labor of love put to endless ridicule because he didn't have the respect to word his opinions kindly nor the integrity to handle the inevitable abuse that would follow an easily disturbed community.

wavelength121
wavelength121

@ggregd And I take you are one of these so called "professional people". Sorry, but your entire opinion hinges on that broad term, and frankly, I disagree with your assessment that artists should not be allowed to be passionate about their work. How about, when YOU grow up and make a single good game, then you can have your elitist opinion.

MightyWings
MightyWings

William Shattner as Captain Kirk from the original Star Trek was the best. :)

frylock1987
frylock1987

@Warful  

So...your only bringing up games that focus strictly on Multiplayer Aspects where its a constant competition, hence all the shit that can be heard during matches.....and that surprises you?


Hey man, its all good though. Defend the guy that called everyone who brought his game cheapskates. Maybe one day he'll get that solid gold bar with the sharks swimming around in it like Lars from Metallica....

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@Warful justin bieber gets far way more hate than fish did, yet bieber doesn't come out and call music listeners the worst people, he also doesn't go into public venues and say that other music types suck. You know who does though, Kanye West, Phil Fish is the Kanye West of gaming. He can't take criticism but is willing to criticize others.

ggregd
ggregd

@Warful That's an internet thing, not a gamer thing.  Some people become complete jackasses when they're anonymous.  The thing about Fish though, was he did it in public, on camera.  Shows a disturbing lack of socialization.

UltraredM
UltraredM

@Minja92 @UltraredM I know all about Super Meat Boy and Braid. I've spent many, many joyful hours on Super Meat Boy, and I hear Braid is fantastic. Never heard of that movie though.

blkgto
blkgto

@Warlord_Irochi @wavelength121  

No, he really didn't.  He is right, and it just so happens when you give obnoxious, loud-mouthed, self-entitled ass-hats some anonymity to hide behind, they go from being ass-hats to all out cocksuckers.  

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@Warful @Evanrocknuma then never make a video game, seriously you cant please everyone, look at all the hate EA gets, Activision, Bioware, Capcom etc etc, if you can't ignore comments over the internet you should not be a game developer.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@wavelength121 @ggregd there is a difference between being passionate about your work and being a douchebag. So he made one great game woohoo then he goes on to bash japanese games as a whole, then because a few gamers complained that 1 dollar off during a sale was kinda lame he says the game is worth 90 dollars, someone is a little high on himself.

Warful
Warful

@MightyWings Oh I agree on that part, but wait for the shitstorm of people calling for Picard!( which was still an awesome captain but I mean.. Shatner just had the hair, the flair and to be fair(rhyme intended) the nostalgic surrounding Original series cant be touched.

Warful
Warful

@stan_boyd @Warful I am not condoning his actions, but if you've seen Indie Game, you should know he's an unstable man who was put through alot of shit while making the game, that wasn't criticism, that was pure hatred, mocking and abuse, the gaming community is just as stupid as him.

And Bieber? really?
The guy that pissed in the back of a restaurant, yelled "Fuck Bill Clinton" an Ex- President. The guy that spit in his neighbour's face, when the neighbour complained about Bieber drove around illegally with high speeds?
That guy?

He is just as horrible as Fish.

Elena_The_Turk
Elena_The_Turk

@ggregd @Warful The internet is NOT the problem or cause, it is merely the medium.

I've honestly lost count of the number of times I've copped abuse, or sexist and vulgar remarks just because I'm a female playing a game like COD or MGS4 on multiplayer. 

Have I ever gotten that type of behaviour from a non-gaming forum or a chatroom? Rarely. On my PS3 or Xbox with voice chat? 

Nearly every single time I play.

Rickystickyman
Rickystickyman

@ggregd @Warful An internet thing involving gamers only... huh... I think those would still be considered gamers. That is like saying a professional football player decides to write an article on the internet about football and that stops him from being a football player.

Minja92
Minja92

@UltraredM @Minja92 lol well check it out, its actually pretty inspirational. or it could be de inspirational for the amount of work and stress it shows.

JASAEric
JASAEric

@Evanrocknuma @stan_boyd @Warful Having depression doesn't mean you get to be an asshole, especially if you deal with the public.


While I think that the quality of the game should be more important, and I love Fez, you can't insult people and not expect it to come back at you.


I am glad he's done, like ggregd said below, maybe he'll grow up and be able to make games without treating his customers so badly.

Evanrocknuma
Evanrocknuma

@stan_boyd @Warful @Evanrocknuma Sure, and if you read below I have explicitly said that for the benefit of his health he should find a new career path, but bashing his depression is just hateful and unintelligent.

wavelength121
wavelength121

@stan_boyd @wavelength121 @ggregd Sounds like a guy who has standards and is proud of his work. Do you enjoy being rewarded for your work? Do you like it when people talk trash to you? Are you too much of a coward to stand up for yourself but will anonymous post your opinion as fact on an internet forum? Apparently so.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@Warful @stan_boyd well regardless, my point is, phil fish is completely unproffessional and in my opinion doesn't deserve the success he got. He criticizes japanese games in a very rude and assholish way and then gets upset about people that criticize him and his work.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@Warful @stan_boyd in some ways he is just as bad, but bieber doesn't doesn't tell his fans they suck, he doesn't go to interviews and say japanese music sucks or country sucks or rock sucks etc etc. Yeah in his semi private "paparazzi follow him everywhere so he is never truly private" he has done some stupid stuff, but when he is representing his business he is proffessional about it.,