Fans say they've been misled by War Z developers

Reddit users say Hammerpoint Interactive has released a patch for The War Z, which forces players to sign a terms of service that disallows refunds.

Dissatisfied consumers have taken to Reddit to voice their concerns surrounding the release of The War Z on Steam.

Users are accusing The War Z developer Hammerpoint Interactive of releasing a patch for the Steam version of the game following Reddit reports that claimed this version of the game wasn't complete.

According to Reddit user "IAmFluffey", the patch "proves [Hammerpoint Interactive's] quick money-grabbing and game-breaking schemes."

"After changing the description of their game due to [Reddit user] TotalHailbut calling them out on false advertising, they have now updated the game with a new patch."

The post goes on to list a variety of changes in the new patch, including "increasing the respawn-timer from 1 hour to 4 hours", while adding a "revive" button where players can spend real-world money to revive instantly. Reddit users have suggested that this addition forces players into a micro-transaction model.

According to the post, the update is also forcing players to sign a terms of service agreement before playing, which reportedly "disallows refunds" of the game.

After publishing a similar thread on the Steam forums, user "IAmFluffey" was reportedly banned. The users claim that Hammerpoint Interactive subsequently shut down the entire The War Z discussion thread on Steam.

GameSpot has reached out to Hammerpoint Interactive for comment.

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sune_Gem
sune_Gem

Everything about this game looks free to play, from the graphics to the gameplay to the fact that it has microtransactions. The only problem is, it's not actually free to play.

bjornborgue
bjornborgue

Don't buy War Z at the moment. All it is now is players dropped into the world and allowed to interact (melee/shoot) zombies and other players. No rules, no structure, no tools to enrich the experience. You know those people saying "it's so realistic and immersive"? Yeah, those are the type of people who imagine their own fun (e.g. "a player COULD be around so let me crawl for half a mile"). It's nothing but a map with assets and units in it. We all know the real reason why it's out in this pathetic state...it's so it can beat the inevitable Day Z standalone to the punch.

csward
csward

Wow, Steam needs some quality controls here. These people are sick.

FreedomPrime
FreedomPrime

so they force you to buy the game then, change it after it's been release. wow. F$*k that!!

Liliroots
Liliroots

Thank those who read the ToS, EULA, etc.  If it wasn't for them and reporting such as this article, we would all be very unhappy.  Now I know for sure I wouldn't even look into WarZ.

Resergam
Resergam

Dear Gamespot, You should do us all a favor by moving DayZ or Arma to Warlol's #3 top games spot...3.7.......

HADES2001
HADES2001

I hope steam just pulls the plug and says farewell to hammerpoint they will never get a penny from me even how good they make it now.

iowastate
iowastate

I think their problem was caused by releasing the game too early and they had to work hard and give away a bunch of stuff and try to salvage things with a patch.

 

it was more of a disaster than it need have been and I think was made to sound worse than it really was but gamers are in a complaining mode right now because they are used to getting ripped off

msoldate
msoldate

so I pay money for a game thats broken that makes me pay more money to continue to play because I will die because the game is broken.huh? whats going on here? I can't understand this bullshit over all this amazingness spewing out of Farcry 3 and Borderlands 2 right now... 

Damnation_6
Damnation_6

I really dont get why people call it a scam.

 

A) We got a working game that has some of the features they promised patched in since October and more on the way.

-1 The also added several new zombie skins and sounds since alpha release.

-2 They brought out new character skins, as a thank you for the alpha testers we got them for free. After the stat wipe we even got some extra game currency.

-3 People wanted more zombie spawns, so they added more. When people complained that you had to pay for Clans they changed it so that it's free now. They have added new servers since release to provide enough space for everyone. They listen to a lot of the community suggestions

-4 Russian region got added...we used to only have EU and US at release.

-5 The whole map opened up as they promised.

 

B)Its not like they just took our money and never worked on the game

C) They banned hackers and are still working on anti hack systems

D) They gave us a month by month estimate of what they will be adding.

 

BUT I will admit they don't handle communication well enough now and then. The Steam store should have clearly stated it's still in beta and that not every function is online/implemented yet.

 

TL;DR

The developers have been working and patching and implementing stuff since the October launch, I don't get why it would be a scam.

trencher10B
trencher10B

The story of the development of Day Z appears more wholesome and inspiring by comparison. Not even a game feature-by-feature comparison is needed to tout which game wins anyone's trust.

anticitizen013
anticitizen013

Refunded. Boom. Take that you losers! Thank goodness Steam/Valve is legit.

DrKill09
DrKill09

4 god damn hours between respawn?

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!

 

And they expect people to buy this?

Nzilla
Nzilla

BOO MONEY GRUBBING FROM COMPANIES.  I will not be playing this game and I will be boycotting all of this companies products.

AUSTZoRrO
AUSTZoRrO

The game is boring and crap. I am looking forward to DayZ standalone. 

codeman101360
codeman101360

"The post goes on to list a variety of changes in the new patch, including "increasing the respawn-timer from 1 hour to 4 hours", while adding a "revive" button where players can spend real-world money to revive instantly."

 

I'm surprised EA didn't try this first, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6-u8OIJTE

Tsuchikage
Tsuchikage

This whole thing sounds very shady...My advice is to not put money into WarZ for now.

Unfallen_Satan
Unfallen_Satan

I never realized how easily devs can patch their games to make them into something very different. This news report really helped me out.

greendude123
greendude123

I had alot of fun in this game. I started with DayZ, but i wasn't a fan of the arma 2 engine/super zombies. I loved the smaller map in this game, and just gameplay in general, but to do something like this? what the F**k.......

 

Guess ill just wait till arma 3 comes out and play DayZ then

mkdoomfan2
mkdoomfan2

Pulled!!! Refunds for almost everyone!!!( the people who bought it)

LynnTerra
LynnTerra

It's sad to see a company sinking lower and lower in desperation. Why does a company want to be so infamous for negative reasons? Especially continuing such behavior after so much backlash? :(

Stevefin
Stevefin

AND it has now been pulled off the steam for now, thank god and hope it never comes back!

 

It is very clear, by graphics, lack of anything really, and cash shop for ONE TIME items. Was nothing more than a money grab on the success on Day Z

Jibroni
Jibroni

No thanks, won't be buying this game.

Damnation_6
Damnation_6

I played the game since the Alpha started...most of this stuff is slander. DayZ fans and banned hackers are really trying to give this game a bad name and people actually believe it. The devs have always been honest about the game not beeing complete and have constantly been updating the game adding more stuff. The game has entered Beta since the steam release and was in alpha before that.

 

If people actually start to believe this crap the game might not get finished...fortunately thousands of people are still playing and having a good time (including me). Look up some youtube gameplay vids and judge for yourself before you begin to parot this crap.

Colekern
Colekern

I can honestly say that this game is one of the most obvious scams I've ever seen. First off they say the game was in development for two years, and that's a fairly obvious lie. I mean seriously, look at the comparison screenshots for War Inc. and War Z. What did they spend two years on, the map? 

 

Speaking of the map, they say it's over one hundred kilos squared. Not true. It's actually around 10 to 50 kilometers ( assuming that the character is between 5 1/2 feet to 7 ft. and walks at about 1.38 meters/s). See the article here: http://www.pcgamesn.com/article/how-big-war-zs-map 

 

They also copied League of Legends user-license agreement (which was hilarious considering they didn't even other to delete some of the links to LOL's website). Straight up plagiarism. 

 

Another thing. The head of the project that is WarZ was also a major player in the making of big rigs: over the road racing (which is said the be the worst game ever made).

 

Also, the Warz dev (after there was an outcry about the WarZ's steam page lying about the game's features) blamed customers for "misreading" the description, even though there was no way to tell that hose features weren't in he game yet.

 

Combine that with the faked screenshots, the fake steam description (it was adjusted after it reached #1 in steam, but there are still inaccuracies) , copy-pasted assets from War inc.,  and the fact that they didn't spend two years in development, they use free to play style microtransactions even for things like respawns, and it's painstakingly obvious that it's nothing more than a cash grab.

 

With this much evidence against the game, it's basically impossible to truthfully say its not a scam or at the very least a cashgrab.

 

Heck, even Forbes agrees its a scam: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/12/19/allegations-of-false-advertising-hound-the-war-z-release-on-steam/

 

If your still not convinced, then you're hopeless.

 

PS. Most of you probably didn't read this. LOL. Don't deny it! 

 

 

telefanatic
telefanatic

Wow i almost bought this game yesterday...lost my money.

santinegrete
santinegrete

The bad press this dev got, from how stupidly they named their product to this unnaceptable business practice, is going to cement them and their project for good.

Nodashi
Nodashi

Well, I was thinking about buying this just to try the survival feeling, but real money for kick rez? It`s downright pathethic, this crap is not even F2P. I'm not giving them a single cent after this greedy, unfair move against their consumers.

Uruca
Uruca

Seriously, who bought this? Don't get me wrong, but I still haven't seen any good footage about this game. 15 melee attacks to kill a zombie,  I mean, dafuq were you guys expecting?

isahunt
isahunt

"From time to time a mistake can be made and one was made by prematurely issuing a copy of War Z for sale via Steam. We apologize for this and have temporary removed the sale offering of the title until we have time to work with the developer and have confidence in a new build. Those who purchase the game and wish to continue playing it via Steam may do so. Those who purchased the title via Steam and are unhappy with what they received may seek a refund bycreating a ticket at our support site here: https://support.steampowered.com/newticket.php"

Doug Lombardi, Valve

 

Taken from ForbesDOTcom

MoreThot
MoreThot

I knew this was going to be bad from the day I heard about it. Copycats usually fail. I'll just be patient and wait for bohemia to make a DayZ standalone.

SolidTy
SolidTy

I read about this entire debacle in quite a few Gamespot.com blogs yesterday. I also saw Youtube Videos up on the subject yesterday...

 

Anyways, it's a shame what I'm reading so far.

Unholy123
Unholy123

Hahah It's been pulled from steam! Its that much rubbish its now pending a review before being allowed back on and steam is doing refunds for those that contact support!

McStrongfast
McStrongfast

Weeeeeee are the champions, my freeeeeeind!

PadyEos
PadyEos

The game can not be bough on Steam anymore and it has been removed from the front page. Add to your wishlist is the only button still available. Like that button is ever going to get presses...

Deadpool-n
Deadpool-n

Do some research first. It is a fun game that is only now about to reach beta. Most played 5 mins and call it crap. If I would have put that much time into Day Z I would have said the same thing. I love them both.

iamrob7
iamrob7

Just to be clear to some;

 

DayZ =/= WarZ

 

It's a shame that a lot of people only vaguely familiar with these games are oblivious to this and some comments I've read seem to be from people who are unaware of the distinction.  DayZ is a completely different and vastly superior game.

 

I know quite a few people bought WarZ on steam because of this.  The fact that they blatantly copied the DayZ name alone demonstrates the quality of the developers behind the game.

 

 

Shawndox
Shawndox

This is the true face of "hype" kids.

BuBsay
BuBsay

So apparently they've changed the Steam description to remove false information (it didn't). But my favorite one has to be the fact that it was originally listed as "100-400 square km maps", when in fact there's only one map. So they changed it to "100 square km map"

 

When actually, the map is less than 10 sq km's. http://www.pcgamesn.com/article/how-big-war-zs-map

 

I've honestly never seen a company lie out of their ass so hard and so regularly regarding a product, this is honestly like watching some terrible late night comedy.

Crazyguy105
Crazyguy105

Its hilarious how many people fell for this scam. Serves them right imo.

Adenosine
Adenosine

I laugh at their so called "Foundation Release"! It's such an ironic term to use when the game is simply built on lies and disgusting business practices!

EKGProd
EKGProd

And so we continue watching PAID games get micro transactioned to death. I hope you all love spending money, because micro transactions are going to be in all of our paid games within the next few years. On PC, on the Next Playstation and Xbox, micro transactions will be shoved into every game we pay for. Publishers have realized that people will pay for these transactions in anything, and all you idiots who have been playing Mass Effect 3's online multiplayer are helping prove that point.

 

So not companies like THQ, Ubisoft, EA and Capcom have all voiced their support for micro transactions in paid games. Welcome to the future. Now, not only do we have to worry about pre-order bonuses, online passes, subscription fees, seasons passes, and downloadable content, we now also have to worry about micro transactions in a game we already dropped $60 on. Prepare to see a crap ton of games designed around this model. You'll be leveling up a hell of a lot slower in most games that have such mechanics, and single player games are going to go through massive changes as well. 

 

Whatever a publisher can do to bleed us dry, they will. They will continue until everyone is fed up and leaves gaming for good. It's happened once already, it will happen again. Gaming has officially become the most expensive entertainment in the world. 

Wolfravenpr
Wolfravenpr

That's what happens when you try to get money copying out an already good game without putting the same commitment or passion to the game and community.