Fallout: New Vegas dev hopes the next Fallout game has agonizing choices

Fallout designer on what defines the Fallout games.

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Lead designer and project director on Fallout: New Vegas Josh Sawyer said he hopes the next game in the Fallout series will force players to make difficult choices.

"Fallout games are best when the choices are - and this applies to role-playing games in general, but Fallout is a more desperate world - more agonizing,” Sawyer told Eurogamer in an interview. “They feel more appropriate to the post-apocalyptic genre. So I hope that whatever twists and turns the story takes, it's more nuanced than a black-and-white choice."

Sawyer cites the endings of the original, 2D Fallout games, as well as Fallout: New Vegas, which he said was designed to challenge the player.

“Some people want to go through the wasteland like a tourist, which is fine - they don't really want it to be super-difficult,” he said. “Personally I like things to be a little more challenging,” he said, “and there's a segment of players that also want [that]. I don't have any doubt in this.”

Bethesda Game Studios’ next project has been in full development for more than a year now. Rumor has it that the developer’s next game is Fallout 4, and that it takes place, at least partially, in Boston and its surrounding area. This is unconfirmed, but the evidence is piling up.

Even if that is the case, Bethesda marketing executive Pete Hines confirmed last week that we will not see the game at E3 2014.

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310 comments
yoda101280
yoda101280

Is that Ice Cube in that screen shot?

AstroGazer
AstroGazer

I enjoyed  both FO3 and FONV1. With all the mods available, it is always like a new storyline. I love the exploration and quests. But we all know that FO Dev will not discuss anything with the zenimax ESO release in the fall for consoles.  

dannydopamine8
dannydopamine8

For some reason i can just never bring myself to complete bethesda games. I always get super into them at first and take a ton of time creating my character and planning my perks.


1.Start off, enjoy collecting mundane items like cups and plates just to sell to get a better set of armor. And love leveling up and selecting perks.

2. Go questing for a while

3. Realize that there really is no point to questing as i can get 1000x more gold and experience just from raiding one base of bad guys that respawn permanently.

4. Get 100x more gold than the most expensive item in the game with ease.

5. Buy every health potion every vendor sells because i pretty much have unlimited gold supply.

6. Start getting bored of killing every enemy with ease and never dying (even on max difficulty just is not hard at all)

7. Come to realize i am just forcing myself to complete quests just for the sake of completing them, nothing more.

8. Uninstall before i ever finish the main story.

Vexov
Vexov

It wasn't 1/2 as much of a difficulty as it should have been.

RedXuchilbara
RedXuchilbara

all I want is Fallout 4 + Oculus Rift!!!
I want to enjoy a fully Immersive Fallout game!!

cynicritic
cynicritic

New Vegas certainly challenged me... Trying to find work arounds for all the bugs was extremely difficult!

grenadehh
grenadehh

Agonizing? As in Son of a bitch I have to restart the game because I made a bad decision 65 quests ago?

turbojugend16
turbojugend16

The game will have agonizing bugs. And I'm not talking about radroaches.

Mariofan15
Mariofan15

I hope it has better choices and that they actually affect things depending on what you pick. I also want more dialogue options and more dialogue in general. Make the NPC's feel like actual people with different things to say depending on what you did or what your doing or something.

Hellbishop
Hellbishop

Fallout New Vegas was pretty brutal while being realistic about it. I was pretty shocked how a pretty young lass was killed by Gecko's because I didn't get to her in time near the start of the game. Then there was all the back stabbing and out for themselves npcs with just the right amount of good people to keep me in check morally so am not tempted to take on a killing ground play style even though the choice is still there.

tableofjapan
tableofjapan

I would actually love for my choices to actually effect me and everything around me for once. Thats one thing that kills the whole "choice" thing for me in Bioware and Bethesda games. It feels like once I make a choice, It really doesn't effect me or the game world around me.

cameroncr95
cameroncr95

um, I don't know, maybe it would be great if we HAD a new fallout game?


Personally I think Bethesda should make FO4 a priority. FO3 and NV has been some of their best selling games to date. 

thesilverape
thesilverape

I yearn for a game were decisions aren't so good vs evil, but are more realistic - as in everything is middle ground and choices aren't polarizing. Too bad most people aren't critical thinkers and these choices would fry their brains.

Kooken58
Kooken58

Its kind of funny seeing all these comments asking or suggesting for certain features...Many of the features that are actually available through mods.  If you are able to, I highly recommend playing the fallout games and elder scrolls games on PC. Not only are they less buggy, but they offer hundreds of hours of new content. Playing vanilla skyrim, or vanilla fallout and then going to a modded version with dozens of amazing mods is like playing a completely different game.

jeffgost
jeffgost

Just give the game to CD Projekt Red...They nailed the choice system in The Witcher, i'm sure they could bring Fallout to a whole new level....

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

If you want us to make difficult decisions than just give us way too many options or choices when we need to make decisions, that alone makes decisions very difficult.

Actually, please don't do that.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

Tough decisions to make huh?  Well if I ever have to make a decision in Fallout between my dog or one of of my squadmates, the squadmate has to go... :)

Xmus942
Xmus942

It should be next-gen only and the graphics should reflect that.

DrKill09
DrKill09

I dunno, the bugs in Fallout 3 and New Vegas were pretty agonizing in and of themselves.

SNESNOSTALGIA2
SNESNOSTALGIA2

Thanks for the depressing as f*** article gamespot! Remind me that they aren't gonna be at E3 and while you're at it can you kill a puppy in front of me too?

vadagar1
vadagar1

plz take FO3 and skyrim combat system and throw it in the garbage


we need something new and "better"

vadagar1
vadagar1

nuking megatown was the best thing I have ever done in a game

Fartman7998
Fartman7998

The one thing that I want the next Fallout game to have is a bigger game world.  Everything else I am willing to deal with, but this should be a next-gen game in every way, no porting to last gen.  I want the game to break new ground by expanding the size of the game world without sacrificing any quality along the way.  That is what I want.  

Boddicker
Boddicker

I will reiterate and clarify my first post:


1) Make CHA count.  I don't want to see characters with a CHA of 1 and a Speech skill of 100.

2) Make my character bulk up as a I raise his STR and END.  I'm sick of playing toothpick characters.

3) Melee/Unarmed needs a major overhaul.  You can swing Melee weapons way too fast.

4) Make Hardcore Mode actually feel hardcore.

5) Bring back the gibberish for making a character with low INT. 

6) SHIELDS, SHIELDS, SHIELDS!!!!!!  How is a Melee character supposed to be viable without a shield?!?!?

7) Make it happen somewhere actually interesting: New Orleans, Hawaii, or God forbid China!!!!!!

8) New Beastiary.  I'm so tired of fighting the same monsters.

9) 3 races (human, super mutant, ghoul).  I know you can write race specific dialogue for a mere 3 races as opposed to Skyrim's 10 races.


Idk why I'm wasting my time.  Bro-thesda will write this using their usual 14 year old fanfic level writing skills.

yoda101280
yoda101280

@dannydopamine8 I know what you mean, I have yet to complete FO: NV and I bought that game on day one.  I go back every so often and play a few chunks though, eventually I will complete it. :)

yoda101280
yoda101280

@RedXuchilbara Rift is not really much for shooters, I don't think you would enjoy that experience as much as you think.  

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

@RedXuchilbara I'll take a Morpheus myself, that way I can just buy the disc and not have to worry about upgrading my video card so I don't have to downgrade the visuals.

falloutwanderer
falloutwanderer

@tableofjapan 

I agree. If you are looking for more choice and consequence then I highly recommend checking out the Witcher series. Some of the best C&C in any modern rpg out right now. I will safely assume that the Witcher 3 will have more than enough to sate RPG fans.

PrpleTrtleBuBum
PrpleTrtleBuBum

@thesilverape How you define good and evil? Playing New Vegas or Skyrim I don't think there really were good vs evil choices. Factions have their own agendas they believe are true and so on.


There could be more "choices" and consequences however

falloutwanderer
falloutwanderer

@thesilverape As I said above to a similar post - 

' If you are looking for more choice and consequence then I highly recommend checking out the Witcher series. Some of the best C&C in any modern rpg out right now. I will safely assume that the Witcher 3 will have more than enough to sate RPG fans.'

cameroncr95
cameroncr95

@Kooken58 Yea, but not everyone wants to spend an arm and a leg to build a glorified game machine. Not everyone is in a good state financially right now. I literally have $30 to my name and have to pay bills this month. Life sucks. 

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

PC sucks. Mods are nothing but time wasters for PC gamers because there's nothing else to play.

Besides, this is a place to discuss and vent ideas and criticism. And yes, occasionally dev's frequent these boards to see what their fans think.

RoyialNetwork
RoyialNetwork

@Kooken58 Mods are awesome and i agree, but having Bethesda put as much effort and setup as many features like that shouldn't be a bad thing. I appreciate that they let people mod their game, but Bethesda should still be expected to put forth just as much effort as the awesome modders.

grenadehh
grenadehh

@jeffgost Lol no the witcher is a horrible game. The story may be good but the gameplay is non-existent. No thank you.

grenadehh
grenadehh

@Boddicker Literally none of those places would be interesting. Maybe China. Maybe.

nefphlegm
nefphlegm

@Boddicker Let's not forget let's optimize the recipe items and weapons in game.

RoyialNetwork
RoyialNetwork

@Boddicker I agree with a lot of what you said. Not necessarily the three races since Fallout isn't suppose to be about ambiguous races its about humanity. I could see the option between a Human or Ghoul but a lot of rep-coning would be required if you tried to do Super Mutants. I also like the idea of adding more baddies on top of what we already have, i mean America has a wide variety of species, i'd like to see that in the next game as well without getting rid of the classics. 


I'd also melee as you said to get a overhaul. Maybe not only learning better moves but also seeing your weapon affect the body as it should properly. In the first two games you could aim at parts which made fighting very effective, if you slam someone in the eyes, or sledgehammer their legs or w/e you should see them react as they would, i'm all for making my opponents unable to defend themselves that's a very fun thing to do in video games in general.

vadagar1
vadagar1

@Boddicker probably 


and dont forget we need a better, less buggy combat system

Hellbishop
Hellbishop

@cameroncr95 @Kooken58  Same here :D I'll raise your 30 and add ten to my lot in life at the moment. Still its a good if not great life. At least I still have the ability to save.


One of the great things about modded and unmodded is the infinite gameplay of both without costing anything except the time of the rewarding learning process.


SKYRIM for me has been one of the first Bethesda games along with their and Obsidian's Fallout series that mods haven't really attracted me because the games feel so complete. Fallout 3 though was fun to mod because of all the crazy b-movie style mods that came out. New Vegas has that zaniness on its own so except for a creature mod here and there its been mostly non modded gameplay for me.

falloutwanderer
falloutwanderer

@Gravity_Slave Keep telling yourself that buddy. I will assume that you have not played any games with good mod support? or you have never used mods period. That remark is full of B.S. and complete ignorance imo. Yeah, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and many things are subjective. 

Although In this particular instance I cannot understand how mods are time wasters and that there is nothing to play on PC? lol GTFO. If anything, PC offers many more options when it comes to games. I am far from an elitist,I also enjoy a lot of console exclusives.

Kooken58
Kooken58

@Gravity_Slave Is that what console players tell themselves? No it simply enhances the gameplay or adds more to a game you love.

tableofjapan
tableofjapan

@Gravity_Slave


" And yes, occasionally dev's frequent these boards to see what their fans think."


Lol....yeah....keep telling yourself that. If Developers really listened to people, DLC wouldn't exist.

Kooken58
Kooken58

@RoyialNetwork @Kooken58 Ooh I agree, and its always nice to see certain features get put into the game thanks to mods.  Things such as the hardcore mode that was in F:NV was implemented because of mods like Fallout Wanderer's Edition mod for FO3.

grenadehh
grenadehh

@Mariofan15 @vadagar1 There was once you became super powerful, which was way before even finishing Broken Steel. You eventually ran around and one hit everything, with or without VATS. It became boring and frankly a chore killing enemies because it stopped you from running.

tony56723
tony56723

We just need less bugs period lol

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

@tableofjapan @Gravity_Slave Dev's listen to people. Publishers do not, they have to appeal to their shareholders. Thus whatever idea suggests more money excites them, and we/devs get screwed by low budgets, time, and cut content.