Eidos: Thief reboot will look better on PC than Xbox One or PS4

Art director says reboot will deliver "much more" than what console games have come to expect, but PC version still trumps the new consoles.

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Eidos Montreal's upcoming Thief reboot will look better on the PC than on the Xbox One or PlayStation 4, art technical director Jean-Normand Bucci told DSOGaming in a new interview.

The developer explained that while Thief for the new systems from Microsoft and Sony will deliver "much more" than what console gamers have come to expect, the PC version will go even further.

"The new consoles are very strong, very powerful. They allow for much more than what a console gamer is used to. The gap between PC and next gen has massively reduced for sure," Bucci said. "The new consoles and high-end PC offer better frame rate, higher resolution, and many new features along with DX11 support.

Regarding the PC version specifically, Bucci said, "The PC version will support all the graphical features of the next-gen consoles with numerous improvements, including even better anti-aliasing, higher resolution shadows, and support for multi-monitor. Thief on PC will also be amongst the first batch of games that support AMD's new Mantle API for high performance graphics."

He also explained that Thief for the PC will include a field of view (FOV) slider and mouse sensitivity options. "We don't apply acceleration or smoothing to our mouse-based camera controls--we want you to have direct control of Garrett's POV," Bucci said.

Thief launches February 25, 2014, for the Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, and PC. A Wii U version is not in development. Eidos recently confirmed that the game would not feature quick-time events.

For more on Thief, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

Discussion

398 comments
mxgod
mxgod

One thing I wish console games would let you do is adjust AA, DOF, and Motion blur.. because a lot of games go over board or don't do it correctly. Motion blur especially.. our eyes should be naturally blurring motion.

billlabowski
billlabowski

Well yeah. It's PC lol. Not a dumbed down console.

merrickx
merrickx

Well, no sh*t on the headline.


"We don't apply acceleration or smoothing to our mouse-based camera controls..."


This shouldn't usually be a touted like a "feature" or something, and the FOV should always have at least soooome bit of customization. I'm glad those most basic of basic things will be present, but I don't like that this might be deemed newsworthy these days. They're the kind of options that should be standard for games of this type.


Hell, I think even console games should have a little bit of a slider option for FOV, especially since these newer consoles could likely handle it to at least some degree. 55 to 65 can be low for a lot of people, and some games, like Borderlands 2, are absolutely nauseating, and that particular game may have been as low as the 50 or 45. Amazing.

ptnull
ptnull

Personally I want good gameplay, not super-ultra-mega graphics that I can't notice any difference from medium at 7 feet from my tv.

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

Does anybody know how the XBO and the PS4 have been handling AA/Ambient Occlusion/God Rays and such? How heavy is the post-processing compared to current maxed out PC games?

fartingonzebras
fartingonzebras

So same game, just better graphics and controls? I'm okay with being a console gamer then. Main reason I even got a PS4 was so I wouldn't have to wait 2 hours for a game to install or load

JRD1912
JRD1912

Im just skirting by on my GTX 465 to run games at a reasonable clip.  Cant wait to drop 3-400+$ on my new GPU to be able to play this and Witcher 3!  Whoo 2 games!  PC MASTER RACE!!!

SweetPandaLove
SweetPandaLove

As a home console user, I say.......................duh?  I mean seriously, PC's are more powerful, of course they'll look better.  Derp.

KimCheeWarriorX
KimCheeWarriorX

you know, reading all these articles that have been popping up lately from various members that represent the pc gaming community trying to beat into our skulls that pc gaming rules over all gives me the impression that many of these developers and publishers that represent that community are feeling particularly insecure about how much of a portion of the videogame market comprises of their product. in this case, we've got the thief team and eidos playing the heckler. seeing this just makes me feel sad for them that they feel that they need to plead or constantly badger us with their "we are borg" superiority complex. we're all in the same industry for christ's sake. bad enough we got politicians trying to find any and every reason to give games a bad name but now we've got these guys trying to bully the rest. as most of you know, i game on console and pc, imagine that. if my eyes could roll out of their sockets every time an article like this is posted,  they would.

MJ-X
MJ-X

AA? Shadows? Resolutions? Sensitivity Sliders? HOLY CARP, this is too good to be true.... NOT.


What else is new? We have these options available to us in almost every single game the moment they were introduced.

Why is this even news? Slow day Eddie?

Branmuffin316
Branmuffin316

Branmuffin316: Grass is green

User says that grass is most often green, but sometimes turns brown when it dries out.

juboner
juboner

With console you will only see graphics improving over time with consistent frame rate. With pc you will notice that you have to turn settings down with every passing year. Noticing frame rate issues and knowing the game could look a whole lot better is not a good feeling. 

hastati4
hastati4

On their PCs, maybe. On mine? Hell no.

meatz666
meatz666

In another breaking news, carrots are definitely orange, according to specialists.

xbr85
xbr85

well, no sh*t...Sherlock.

bill_windows
bill_windows

Mantle support ,now that will be interesting .

randybumgardner
randybumgardner

i don't think lag and pop-up scenery is better looking.

Neo_OnionKnight
Neo_OnionKnight

Dear Eidos, 


I'm already aware of this fossilized topic, but you must know that no amount of good visual presentation will save a game that is poorly made, glitchy or just plain stupid. Get back to making the game and make it good...

Call back when it's "done".

- A guy who cares only if the game is good.

P.S: Don't cut "natural" in-game content for dlcs either....

acp_45
acp_45

Eidos. We know that PC has better graphics. No need to point it out. 


Now xbots and ponies are gonna rage here and give a bad name to their community.

TehUndeadHorror
TehUndeadHorror

It's kind of saddening to need reassurance from multi-platform devs that the PC game will have PC options. Can we get an option to disable the terrible on-rails escape sequences as well?

hadlee73
hadlee73

I was expecting to see the word "sherlock" a lot more in the comments section.

bloody-hell
bloody-hell

So since their first announcements and showings they backpedaled quite a bit on the features the fans of the series complained about, but the question "is it Thief yet" remains.

If they're still going with the limited experience, QTE nonsense, context sensitive jump limitations, game mechanics built around accessability features and so on, then they can keep their "pretty" reboot, because I have no interest in it.


On topic - I'm not surprised that the PC version will look better, I mean current gen console hardware is already about a year old again and was already inferior to current gen PCs when they came out. (besides one can always upgrade his PC to the currently available tech, whereas the console keeps the hardware it was released with over it's entire lifecycle)

Not that only graphics matter though, I mean look at Ryse for example - sure it's pretty but it's also incredibly tedious and boring with no replay value, so after the 4 hours it takes to follow the linear maps and "press X to win QTEs" that's it.

I'd rather play other games that offer replay value, mod support, private server hosting for multiplayer and so on, even though they may not be as pretty as these "AAA" fails that only focus on their specific "kiddie" target audience.


Perhaps another word of advice for square enix - don't DLC milk it to hell, just release a feature complete game that's true to the Thief series and if it sells well, follow it up with a content heavy expansion later on.

If I see day-1 DLC, a seasons pass or silly preorder special boni, then that's another nail in that coffin.

MonstaTruk
MonstaTruk

Why state this?  Look Eidos, on PS4, I'm expecting 1080p/30fps with AA MINIMUM.  Don't EFF around... :-/

theKSMM
theKSMM

No Wii U version... bummer.  Those guys don't catch many breaks these days.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

Again the games will be the same except" even better anti-aliasing, higher resolution shadows, and support for multi-monitor."  


This means NOTHING to me. We ALL knew this before and nothing new now. PAY more for BETTER Graphics

oflow
oflow

In other news the sky was blue again and the sun continued setting in the west...

metalkid9
metalkid9

I thought I was in the news section...

SweetPandaLove
SweetPandaLove

Also, the article says "PC will have improved shadows."  There you go, PC master race.  Your $3,000 computer can make black blobs more realistic looking.  You should be proud.

merrickx
merrickx

@KimCheeWarriorX Because console players haven't been saying, for years and now, things like, "PC gaming is dead - PCs aren't meant for gaming - have fun with your exclusives, oh wait..."


They do the same sh*t, but are vehemently more butthurt when the sentiment is reciprocated.

merrickx
merrickx

@juboner Funny how the only people who perpetuate this type of myth, and make this type of claim, don't seem to actually have any personal experience with the topic of their commentary.


I don't have to turn down anything on my 3 year old build. 


"Damnit, it's January. Looks like I'll have to turn my settings down to high, and my resolution down to 1080p..."


"Damn, November already. Just a month or two from now and I'm going to have to cut shadow and texture resolution in half. How is it possible that 2 or 3GB of VRAM does not have enough bandwidth to output this kind of stuff?! It doesn't make any sense!"

wizardboyus
wizardboyus

@juboner ugh i hate that feeling, one of the reasons i stopped upgrading my pc and gave into consoles...that and my wallet.

Carpetfluff
Carpetfluff

@hastati4 That's the thing; there's this constant 'PC versions are the best' mantra and it's mostly true, but it's also completely dependant on the system you have. The number of PC gamers who can genuinely run the hefty games at the highest res while maintaining a slick frame rate and turning on all the graphical bells and whistles is a pretty small ratio. That's why it makes me laugh when people generalise about it; just because your monster rig runs like a dream doesn't mean that's the experience everyone's getting. 

CroidX
CroidX

Those are are graphic features that pc gamers will have options to use we don't know until they released the game how the other differences are.

juboner
juboner

@merrickx Your computer is 3 years old and you dont have to turn down anything huh. Well I bet you will here in the near future since the new consoles are out. These last 3 years might have been an exception.

MrAVKV
MrAVKV

@wizardboyus @juboner Except, even though you lower settings over time, chances are that even at that lowered settings, the PC version will still look better that it's console counterpart. This is a big problem. People thing that they always need to play games maxed out to keep up with consoles which is just not true at all.

merrickx
merrickx

@Carpetfluff Confusing how people claim it takes thousands of dollars to enjoy PC gaming.

torrne667
torrne667

 @fartingonzebras  on which console does COD ghosts(and its going to become quite the norm for this console) need at least 25gb install?? oh yeah..its the ps4. seems to take quite a while also...if i'm correct...i think it actually takes LONGER to install than the pc version :) sööööööö..not sure where you are going with this comment lol

merrickx
merrickx

@fartingonzebras Gets what? My PC runs modern 3D titles at maxed settings and cost $550. You guys perpetuate these myths, then congratulate each other on you're complete inexperience.


I do have a $1400 build as well, but that's equally used for work as it is gaming.

Divisionbell
Divisionbell

You're really hard up on defending PCs huh?