EA's Online Pass not coming back

Publisher confirms it has no plans to reinstate its Online Pass system after Xbox One and PlayStation 4 used-game news.

Electronic Arts has confirmed that its Online Pass system will not be resurrected following news that the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 will support used games without any limitations.

"[There is] no change to our decision to discontinue Online Pass," an EA representative told Polygon. "It is dead."

EA reiterated that the decision to kill off the Online Pass program was made after listening to feedback from the community.

"We heard the feedback from players and decided to do away with Online Pass altogether," EA said last month.

EA's Online Passes are discontinued for future games and will also be retroactively dismissed for games already on the market.

Online Passes have often been viewed as ways for developers and publishers to offset the financial shortfall of not seeing revenue when games are traded in and resold through retailers.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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259 comments
noandno
noandno

"Our next game will no longer require online passes... if you pay $50 bucks to make it disappear..."

nima_metal90
nima_metal90

I don't why but it feels like a trap...

they r goin2 milk us in another way

OzmaHD
OzmaHD

EA never supported the Online pass, the problem is the company was forced into it.You people don't understand that EA had to get an license and when getting new EULA license there new rules. EA never supported new "End-User License Agreement" DRM, you can ask the employees.

Agent-M
Agent-M

In other news "EA plans to develop new online pass system, but with a different name in order to mislead customers."

TigusVidiks
TigusVidiks

they will find some other way to cover their losses.

tim1935
tim1935

Yay EA.  Hopefully they will make better games that people want to keep and not trade in (I forgot who that quote came from - Miyamoto?).  Having NBA the 35th version makes the games ambiguous and unimportant to keep.

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

"Online Pass is dead.  It's not coming back"

"...but you are going to LOVE our new product, Multiplayer Passport.  It's... breathtaking.  And priced to move at only $29.99!"

myungish
myungish

I hope it is just one of many sweeping changes made by EA. Don't get me wrong, I'm always up for a good EA-bashing, but I would rather see them get their act together and actually give a cr*p about the customers than have a company I can make fun of for the rest of my natural days.

GSGuy321
GSGuy321

They will go the Simcity route... Process an arbitrary portion of the game on M$ servers and force people to be always online even for single player game ala SimCity.

And tell us that it improves the Game. 

COPMAN221ISBACK
COPMAN221ISBACK

You better believe that both Microscam and EA have another back up scheme to milk you all dry... Nothing more than the quiet before the storm..

kbaily
kbaily

They can't bring them back because it would look so blatantly obvious that they only got rid of them to buddy up to MS's now defunct policies.

rey2
rey2

They'll probably stick with half finished games, bombard you with DLC, and loads of micro-transactions. 

Supabul
Supabul

MS was taken the industry into a better future for us the Publishers and Dev's, but thanks to Sony where now going back to the old ways which nobody likes but Gamestop

Martyr77
Martyr77

EA further added "No Online Passes but we are adding an exciting new feature called Passes Online. It will cost about double the Online Passes and offers the same great experience that should be free in the first place! We can't wait to get your money!"

the_big_doggg
the_big_doggg

But they will still lock half the content in overpriced DLC.

91210user
91210user

Yay, more players to spent time online (and not hackers)! Well, enjoy the money I spent which I paid for an online pass and take that money making another game out of it and I hope I meet more players who aren't paying for it!

cjtopspin
cjtopspin

Wow...they actually listened to gamers... 


We have their attention!!  Quick!  What do we do!?

se007
se007

How about that "noble" samurai sony following ea and ditch their passes on naughty dog games?

hasancakir
hasancakir

EA is doing something for solely players? I'm suspicious.

WehrmachtBear
WehrmachtBear

"EA reiterated that the decision to kill off the Online Pass program was made after listening to feedback from the community."

No. You took away Online Passes so that you could fuck us consumers even further with a new bullshit policy for the Xbox One, and now that the policy has changed, you can't undo what you have done. You would probably be dying to turn back to Online Passes and would do it if you could, but that would then make you look like idiots. So there you go.

Lhomity
Lhomity

Too bad. I think Online passes were for the most part, a FAIR DEAL, and deserved to stay. We should have embraced it. This was definitely one issue the big angry crowd was VERY WRONG on.

Devs/publishers should not be forced to provide their online servers to people who did not pay them for the right to access. Buying a used game shouldn't automatically give you free access to online services.

Of course, too many retards complained and now they're gone. Hopefully they'll come back in some form. And well, EA aren't using them, but some other publishers may still use them. With enough information and a little education, we can turn the fear-train around one day.

darkjedilink
darkjedilink

@PixelAddict Honestly, this is the move I'm expecting.  Either this, or we get more bad news about the Xbox One to where the Online Pass doesn't just get a rebrand.

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

@COPMAN221ISBACK "You better believe that both UBISOFT and EA have another back up scheme to milk you all dry... Nothing more than the quiet before the storm.."

There.  Fixed it.

ratstrat
ratstrat

The sad truth that most people won't admit, is that they want your game for free. You hear people say that they wan't to "borrow" a game from a friend before they decide if they want to buy it. That's hogwash! They will play thru the game, get the achievements, and never pay a dime for it. I've done it before myself, but I was ok with xbox one's DRM and check-ins. Everyone who does a job deserves to be paid for their hard work.

steelmouth
steelmouth

@Supabul true but they should have started with baby step, leave the disk based single payers as they are and implement the new changes on multiplayer games

Khasym
Khasym

@Supabul Here's a tip. If you want to make games that people will only buy the LISCENCE for, you'd better get started coding it now, for the generation of consoles AFTER the next gen. Neither I, nor many I know, will buy any lisence only game at $60+ that doesn't provide me the best experiences from my Battlefield I, II and III, Mass Effect III, Borderlands I and II, World of Warcraft, and Bayonetta moments, ALL IN ONE GAME WITH NO DLC NEEDED!! I will NEVER buy just a liscence for a game that is as SHALLOW as Halo, Farcry, or Final Fantasy at $60.

Martyr77
Martyr77

@Supabul How much is Microsoft paying you? So a future where you don't own the game, have an always connected camera, and trying to implement DRM practices is a "better future"?

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

@cjtopspin Um.. um.. we've never been in this position before.. with EA listening.. um... um... I'm not prepared...

Okay, here goes: Make Dead Space 4 EXACTLY LIKE DEAD SPACE 1.  Do not stuff multiplayer in Mirror's Edge, and do not allow Faith to carry any firearm for more than 5 seconds.  And keep it classy.

That's all I gots.

OldKye
OldKye

@cjtopspin Well no sense in getting rid of their CEO they did that... Or firing a bunch of people they did that too.... Or online pass heck that' what this article is about......

Oh I got it! Ask them to remove all DRM and just focus on making good games then we can vote for them as one of the best company's rather then worse every year....

Devil_wings00
Devil_wings00

@hasancakir I wouldn't give them to much credit the online pass only disappeared because they obviously knew of MS DRM plans and no longer needed it. Now that MS is pulling out of the DRM BS they really can't retract or go back on this because it was really good PR for them. 


I expect something equally as bad or stupid to replace online passes in the future. This is the same company who made simcity remember? I wouldn't put it past them to use MS fabled "cloud" to simply force gamers to always be online anyway for games to run.

Rohan75
Rohan75

@WehrmachtBear 

Y'all getting way to angry about this, why not be happy they're doing the right thing.

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

@WehrmachtBear Come on, EA made this decision back in May. They had already learned that lesson the hard way, and MS was doing it again. EA is trying to distance themselves as far away from this fiasco as they can. They are currently too busy coming up with new ways to fuck us.

Devil_wings00
Devil_wings00

@Lhomity Ya if done correctly it was an OK trade off honestly. Used games don't suffer wear and tear like other used products do so artificially imposing something to make used games have some sort of lesser value was a good idea. Again if done correctly as in have it only apply to DLC/online multi-player. It's when they started cutting out single player content such as the cat women stuff in B:AC where they stopped doing it right. I shouldn't need go online to unlock single player content, that's just wrong. If they would have stuck to the ME2 route all would have been fine. 

Rohan75
Rohan75

@Lhomity 

When you buy a used book, should the end be ripped out? When you buy a used car should there be no engine? When you buy a f-ing game you deserve the full f-ing game, and now that you have to pay for online on Ps4 and Xbox one, that would mean you have to pay for online games 3 times, xbox/ps live, online pass, and internet. 

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

@darkjedilink What I would love to see is EA get a piece of the XBL and PS+ revenues.  Something we never even see.

If the pubs are really, truly hurting financially over all the used game people (like they're evil) taking advantage of their servers... and if the console manufacturers are TRULY empathetic with their.. um.. plight...

It's how networks like AMC, Fox, and HBO negotiate higher revenues (with the cable providers).  It seems the only "fair" solution.  And it doesn't affect US as gamers.  I hope.

WehrmachtBear
WehrmachtBear

@Rohan75 I shouldn't be happy for a company that continuosly try to fuck consumers. Sure I should be happy, but keep a a good track record first.

Devil_wings00
Devil_wings00

@FallenOneX @WehrmachtBear Publishers and game console makers aren't exactly out of the loop with whats going on with each other. EA did this because they knew what MS was planning to do and figured if they announced it early they could reap the PR benefits of such a move. Now that MS has been forced to change policy I expect EA is pretty pissed because now they can't reinstate this policy because it would look too calculated and really just make a big PR stink. 

I expect something else will replace the online pass system. Perhaps do what they did with simcity and processes some arbitrary bit of data server side and pretend it's essential thus forcing everyone to be online anyway.  Pure speculation but I know a new system will come into being soon enough. Either that or they will wait for the storm to pass that MS stirred up and just quietly bring back the online pass.  

Honestly didn't really see why the online pass was such a big deal. If done properly it shouldn't effect single player content and only make it so used copies can't play online without giving EA some money. It's reasonable if done correctly IMO.

Lhomity
Lhomity

@Rohan75 @Lhomity Why are you comparing online services for a game to cars and books. 

You're talking about an external service provided by remote servers which have ongoing costs devs/publishers have to spend money on, to run and maintain. Access to online servers is not a tangible thing.

Of course you don't have to pay for the online pass either. If you buy new, the online pass costs you nothing. If you buy used, the online pass is a choice. Do you want to play online, YES/NO?

If you were to point at specific poor examples on online pass-like systems, like say, Batman Arkham City (locked out Catwoman), then that's a valid complaint, but its also a very rare example.

Lhomity
Lhomity

@WehrmachtBear @Rohan75 Gamers have been fucking them for more than a decade with mass online piracy, and by supporting a global retail giant that shovel used copies out at undercut prices within weeks of launch.

Seems fair. I guess we're fucking them while they fuck us. Its a love/hate relationship. At least we're getting laid.

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

@Devil_wings00 "Publishers and game console makers aren't exactly out of the loop with whats going on with each other."

Yet no one had a ready response when MS first announced that used games and any fees would be in the hands of the publishers.........

Lhomity
Lhomity

@PixelAddict@Lhomity Blu-ray is not the primary market and source of revenue for the film industry. Not even close. 

The film industry generates most of it's revenue in theaters, while also benefiting from netflix and other streaming and rental markets, syndication (sale of rights to TV networks for broadcasting their films)... Then of course, there's the ongoing shipments of DVDs and blu-rays, years and even decades after original release.

I'd wager the number of people using online content from their blu-rays, and the cost relative to the revenue the film industry generates from its many sources to be MINISCULE at best.

If the primary revenue source for the film industry was home Blu-ray sales, and if the provision of their online services ever became an important and costly part of their business, then they would have a serious problem too.

I can walk into Target or BigW now and find new copies of The Fifth Element from a recent shipment. I walk into GameStop ask them for a 2 year-old game: it's a miracle if they have any new copies in stock, and they would die trying to sell me a used copy before they bought more new shipments.

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

@Lhomity If I buy a used Bluray, I still get access to the streamed live content.

What's the difference?

Lhomity
Lhomity

@se007 @Lhomity @Rohan75  That's something you'd need to take up with Microsoft. Sony provide pretty much the same thing for free. Sure, Xbox Live is often more reliable, but for the most part, your sub moneys are for filling Microsoft's pockets. 

But then, EA and many other big publishers use their own servers for online play. Its not like Microsoft is operating servers for FIFA and BF3.

Then of course, there's the other point of the online pass. Giving GameStop the middle finger, by making a new copy a more attractive purchase than the used copy GameStop want you to buy..


se007
se007

@Lhomity @Rohan75 If I already paid for gold subscription, why should I pay for pass? They using ms servers in this case, so why should I pay twice?