EA exec says Xbox One/PS4 are a generation ahead of top-spec PCs

EA technology officer also says the cloud is going to be an "integral" part of gaming in the future.

EA executive vice president and chief technical officer Rajat Teneja has said that the architectures of the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are "a generation ahead of the highest end PC on the market."

Writing in a post on social media service LinkedIn, the former Microsoft employee said the next-gen hardware of both Sony and Microsoft is "a significant inflection point in the history of our industry" that will be "as profound as the introduction of smartphones or Facebook to the market."

"Both the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 have adopted electronics and an integrated systems-on-a -chip (soc) architecture that unleashes magnitudes more compute and graphics power than the current generation of consoles," says Teneja. "These architectures are a generation ahead of the highest end PC on the market and their unique design of the hardware, the underlying operating system and the live service layer create one of the most compelling platforms to reimagine game mechanics."

The importance of the cloud will also tie in to the future of games, according to Teneja. "The power of connected data is going to be an integral part of the gaming experience," he said. "We see 2.5bn monthly game sessions and 50 [terabytes] of daily telemetry data on our network alone. The Xbox Live network required 500 servers when it launched a decade ago and as was mentioned yesterday, they are now provisioning 300,000 servers to handle Xbox data in the cloud. That growth is staggering, but it also means we'll really start to see more examples of true cross-device play."

"You don't have to be an engineer or even a gamer like me to appreciate the power of these new devices," he concluded.

EA this week announced that its new, next-gen Ignite engine will power its upcoming sports titles. DICE's Frostbite engine will also play a key part in EA's next-gen development.

Microsoft announced the Xbox One earlier this week. Check out GameSpot's Xbox One hub for more information on the successor to the Xbox 360

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puukusa
puukusa

Taking to LinkedIn, Rajat Taneja said the design of the hardware, the underlying operating systems and live service layers had created “one of the most compelling platforms to reimagine game mechanics”.


This is something a mere PC won't ever understand. You can't simply compare specs of general purpose PC to gaming specialized custom architecture, where every single layer (including OS and services) is desinged to squeeze out the maximum performance possible

deathstream
deathstream

Everyone seems to miss the part where he said that the ARCHITECTURE of the new consoles is a generation ahead of current PCs.  It will take time for developers to learn to fully utilize that architecture and by then the next gen PC rigs will be here, so PC will stay a step ahead in graphics performance.

barrica
barrica

So the Gforce Titan is just an illusion! 

Josh Newton
Josh Newton

Yea. A generation ahead with 8gb Ram. My mind is blown. -_-

qazikhalil
qazikhalil

games fine tuned for a single dedicated system will show better results than overgrown PC specs


Yawx Ranada
Yawx Ranada

Oh yeah, I like that! And i wish i have like AlienWare laptop xD

Gankstar_VX84
Gankstar_VX84

you only have to watch the unreal 4 tech demo pc/ps4 side by side to see how full of shit that ceo is, tbf he's a ceo and he'd never get where he was unless he was good at blagging mindless people with stupid information, although one thing I don't get, they gave the 360 such a shit name cuz they didn't want people thinking an Xbox 2 would be less powerful then a ps3, but this time they call it xbox one, then market a games' console as a home entertainment tv show machine, bad move imho, just shows all the gamers that have brains that microsoft is losing their edge.

Okplay
Okplay

They need to make good name for upcoming consoles right?

zella05
zella05

lol good to see that CRACK is in a constant and plentiful supply at EA. if you keep smoking that shit maybe one days your delusions will become a reality

UrbanTracker
UrbanTracker

Yes and you are full of crap, ok, so the architecture may be advanced a lil' bit but in terms raw power pc outperforms both one and ps4/....

leandrro
leandrro

for those indecided for PC or console (or which console) or just wanting to upgrade


name - stream processors- clock - memory - price (dollars)  - performance

WII U             320           - 500   - DDR3 - 350 (hole system)    1 wii u


HD 7750 -      512            - 850   -  DDR5  - $75                    2,5 wii u


HD 7770 -       640          - 1000  -   DDR5 - $99                     3 wii u


XBOX ONE -   768            - 800  -   DDR3 - ?????                3,1 wii u??


HD 7790 -       896          - 1000  -   DDR5 - 139 (might drop)   4 wii u      


HD 7850 -      1024           - 860  -   DDR5 - 160                     5 wii u


PS4 -             1152           - 800  -   DDR5 - ?????               5 wii u ??


HD 7870         1280         - 1000   -  DDR5 -  190                   6 wii u


those spec say PS4 is from 50 to 100% more powerfull than XBOX ONE


also a 450 dollar PC with HD 7870 + AMD quad core CPU is 10 to 25% more powerfull than PS4

Basil Saeed
Basil Saeed

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NEXT GEN GRAPHICS ...... when Crysis 2 looked better than real life , what the hell do you want more ? seriously ?

iloveyourface
iloveyourface

guys if you read the article instead of just writing comments immediately, you'll realize he's not talking about it being a generation ahead in terms of specs. he's talking about the actual ARCHITECTURE of the chip. this is going to help PC gaming since companies will finally utilize multiple cores which will make ports a LOT nicer.

spindie
spindie

According to the graphical throughput of the xbox360 my pc outputs 2.5x that much.. I don't understand perhaps he is talking about those pc's that are so old that they are beginning to turn yellow

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

The Xbox One only has 5GB of DDR3 RAM being used for gaming...I find it hard to believe that will top a high-end PC on the current market.

telaros
telaros

"PS4/XBOX ONE generation ahead of PCs at Rent-o-Centers and Aaron's!
You'll not find a PC in today's Walmarts that can surpass these systems!"

EA is either going into standup or they really REALLLY need to update their Radeon x300 pcs! :p

Also, PS4/XBOX ONE, welcome to three years ago :p
GTX 580's with 3GB ram are still considered overpowered lol

Black_Tribi
Black_Tribi

This statment is one of the most idiotic statments that I heard in a while. From where do they get people like that? I know marketing is about bs'ing us as much and hard as possible but come on. I'm a multiplatform gamer and want for the new consoles to be the best as possible but this downright insults our intelligence.

Ea, can you hire me instead of this guy? I want his pension because I'm smarter...huh? You say you don't hire people with an IQ higher than a banana? But, but I can still pretend that I'm as stupid as mr. Rajat and take about 80% of his income, what do you say Ea? Deal?(withit)

SteroidFreud
SteroidFreud

@puukusa where does this comparison come from? He didn't mention general purpose PC, he mentioned highest-end gaming PC. Regardless, tuning for a particular platform means squat when that platform is inferior to the infinite potential of PC hardware (see below for an education).

 People here need to stop talking out of their cracks about stuff they don't understand because they feel threatened at how behind console hardware really is. We wouldn't be having these silly discussions if moronic execs didn't make ludicrous statements like this.

The bottom line: PC is and will always be ahead of consoles in almost every single respect (variety of games being a con). A console IS a PC (you can even browse the web now on consoles), it is just packaged for a particular market (affordable for parents) and contains STATIC hardware that cannot be upgraded.


You know what is next? An actual PC where the hardware can be upgraded which is packaged as a console (I suspect a new term will be coined to sell them). We've already seen the coming of this by way of upgradeable hard drives for the 360.

DarthAsheron
DarthAsheron

@deathstream Consoles it seems are a lot like laptops. They take all of the components and fit them into a self-contained package. This is nothing new. PS3 and Xbox 360 did the same thing.

The consoles have their Pros and Cons but they are in no way ahead of PCs in terms of power, components, or the way they are built.

leandrro
leandrro

@Josh Newton PS4 gpu cant handle more than 2gb, 3 for system, 3 for video video recording, its just a 400 dollar PC

Kryptonbornson
Kryptonbornson

@qazikhalil There are some inefficiencies to PC mainly because the cpu and gpu don't share ram, but as far as I know the DirectX drivers talks to the graphics card and skip Windows. One thing I noticed when I don't have my cpu unlocked to 4 cores is everything overall feels more sluggish, even when overclocking to 4ghz. With 4-core at 3.2ghz everything runs smoothly, likely because it can better handle both game and os related processes. With 8 cores, this would even be less of an issue, especially seeing as how any 8-core desktop processor will smoke next-gen consoles. I would count i7 is with that, even though it's just hyper-threading.

I used to think consoles did something special until I saw for myself when I was running a 4670 which was under $100 and running games that looked better than 360 even when my processor was slower than 360's. It was triple coure 2.4 I think.

guily6669
guily6669

@qazikhalil That is true...


But in terms of hardware, the PC technically way more powerful (gpu's of almost 4Tflop\s or something)... However yes, efficiency is a bitch in the PC.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@leandrro And yet people buying consoles don't give a single shit about any of that because they buy games to play not because they look good.

SteroidFreud
SteroidFreud

@iloveyourface I understand he is talking about the architecture, but how is that ahead of the highest-end gaming PC? What exactly is being put into these consoles which cannot already be put into a PC today?

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@spindie They mean the architecture inside them is more modern than current PCs. As in a generation ahead of PC in architecture. The power of consoles is still lower than PC.

Put another way if PC was to use the newer architecture it would improve in performance even with the same components.

inthepastxx
inthepastxx

@telaros Your clueless, along with most of everyone else.  PCs are extremely more powerful than any console, he's talking about how the low-end components architecture talks to one another in attempts to get the most power out of little space.  The comment a little above gives great run down of it.  

puukusa
puukusa

@SteroidFreud "A console IS a PC" then my calculator is also a PC. As the matter of fact I probably have about 20 pc's around my house.

shocker alert - i actually am typing this from my PC i upgraded this year for tasks heavier than gaming and it runs all recent titles un ultra. Yes, most console gamers have PC's capable of running games, it's just that console seem more convenient on some cases

puukusa
puukusa

@SteroidFreud if "People here need to stop talking out of their cracks about stuff they don't understand" then stop. Knowing how to install a game doesn't make you an IT guy.

Any PC is general purpose PC regardless of high or low end. Architecture is the same - general purpose motherboard, seperate CPU and GPU (unless you use built-in), seperate ram and video ram, windows - a general purpose OS.


qazikhalil
qazikhalil

@leandrro in pc you are not sure if all the million owners have highest possible specs by burning lot of cash, but in consoles you can be sure that everyone is having a specif assured specs, making it easy for both developers and players alike. that's what i meant by fine tune.

guily6669
guily6669

@leandrro @qazikhalil Well we all know that.


However I try most games on my DESK all ultra and 1080P, but most of the games I just end up playing the X360 version.


It's incredible that most games don't even have that HUGE ammount of difference in textures that they want you to believe. (Deadspace3 for example, PC version is just almost the same as the X360 one)...


It's still is incredible the graphics that X360 can achieve (2005) hardware.


Even my 2007 PC can't run a 2D PC game from nowadays.



ps: And then with the console I play at 2 meters away from the TV, so that also helps a lot to make the X360 to look not much different from pc games that are played at 30cm from the screen or so (BUT YEAH, NOT ALL 360 GAMES LOOK GOOD TOO, CAUSE SOME ARE FAR FROM THE PC VERSION).

qazikhalil
qazikhalil

@guily6669 @qazikhalil      Agreed, excellent optimization is possible due to static architecture of consoles and that's their edge.

leandrro
leandrro

@Dannystaples14 @spindie no, the APUs tech is old and its underperformance is proven, also the jaguar CPU cores are tablet cores, its low budget from start to finish, PCs with that kind of tech would never sell

BLaZiNg_SPEED
BLaZiNg_SPEED

@fbidog @SavoyPrime Can't you read?! He said 5 GB RAM will only be available free for use and the 3 GB will be used for the Operating System and Security that the Xbox One will use. I believe the same will apply for the PS4. 

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

@fbidog No, it's 5GB of DDR3 RAM. It's 8GB total, but 3GBs is reserved strictly for the OS. Leaving only 5GB for gaming purposes. It's been confirmed everywhere.

puukusa
puukusa

@leandrro "are identical clones of PC hardware" - define identical. 

the reason there are no PS3 and XBOX emulators is because they are totally not identical to PC. 

you either are trolling, stupid or american

leandrro
leandrro

@puukusa @SteroidFreud a PCs CPU, a PCs GPU, and a PCs RAM memory makes a PC, if you find those on any device its a PC, a smartphone has a gpu, cpu and ram, but they are tiny ones built for phones, not the parts you find in consoles that are identical clones of PC hardware

guily6669
guily6669

@qazikhalil @guily6669 Actually... games started on gaming console, and only at a later time started to go to the PC.


Since the first days PC was like this, even on PS1 days, PC didn't had most PS1 games, however PC also had titles that looked like PS2 back in 98 and had games that PS1 also didn't had.


PC also offers a lot of things that consoles can't. (I remember even in the free Combat Arms game, I made like 10 kills in just 2 minutes some times, it was so incredible and can't see the same on any other console).


Also PC always was the only one with true SIMULATORS, MODS (GTA SA had a bigger MP than the official GTA IV).


Also true MP for me is only in the PC. Like BF3 on console is just a DEMO of the true PC version (24 players on console VS 64 on the PC).


ps: PC still have less big titles since day one, but also have it's own titles that no console can offer either.

qazikhalil
qazikhalil

@guily6669  today's market is mostly controlled by consoles so most games unfortunately are developed by keeping this perspective in mind so if u want to check pc potential u may need to get a high end pc specific product.

leandrro
leandrro

@qazikhalil @guily6669 this is totally not true, its proven a myth in every way

for example, see elemental demo, they created it thinking all the time on the consoles, the very existence of unreal engine 4 and epic games depends on the way it runs on consoles, thats where they get 95% of their revenue, they would never create a PC oriented engine

they has the demo built to run on many different PCs and then they received and they had many months with the last ps4 dev kit only to adapt it and make it use the every last bit of ps4 processing power, the devs careers where on stake, sony also made all they could to make tihs specific demo to be the best possible, every PC gamer would be able to compare the demos and measure PS4s real power, every enffort to optimize it would be done, and yet it looks exactly the same it was expected and would look in a PS4 equivalent HD7850 video card, thats because there is no optimizaion magic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abGW1bk1nmM&list=PLUA_CK7guz95TReNgOnWSQa8oZEviSvox

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@leandrro @spindie You don't understand what I mean. The components in the new consoles are old, no doubt. They won't out power most PCs including my own laptop.

The way those old components are put together and communicate with one another though is NEW. The way the components are put together inside the machine is a generation ahead of the current PCs. That is what they meant. I mean think about it, PCs have basically followed the same way of putting stuff together for decades. 

I remember looking inside my first PC back in like early 2000, and seeing RAM at the top right, processor in the middle, all of the power ports and USB attachments dotted around the board, all of the PCI ports at the bottom left, they haven't upgraded the fundamental layout of the PC for that long. They also haven't upgraded how the components communicate and process information either. Consoles saw the need to do it (since they definitely do need to squeeze every last drop of power from their lower power components) and they improved on it.

If you were to take top end PC components like a couple of Titans or the 720/680s, and a 16 core processor, 32GB of DDR4 RAM (when it comes out), four SSDs, a Blue-ray player, a whacking sound card that can power Glastonbary Music fest all by itself, and put them all together in a similar way to the new console. The new set up would be able to squeeze more power from that same set of components than a current PC would containing exactly the same components.

Consoles need to be able to do these things because consoles are compact devices that can't be upgraded. It seems they have put a lot of effort into the new console and they have done some great things. 

If you still only care about graphics and power though you need to buy yourself a PC. But for some people games are more than just their looks, which is the only thing PC fans seem to bang on about. I only play games on PC at all because they are cheap and I can download them on Steam, not because they look great. 

If a game looks great and sucks to play I still won't play it. I'm going to think hard about buying another Crytek game as a result since Crysis 1 and 2 looked decent but was a pile of shit to play.