E3 2014: Far Cry 4 Nearly Let You Play as a Woman in Co-Op

Another of Ubisoft's 2014 games won't have any playable female characters, and here's why.

Ubisoft Montreal was "inches away" from offering a playable female character in Far Cry 4's co-op multiplayer mode before the idea was shelved for this year's shooter.

"It's really depressing because we almost...we were inches away from having you be able to select a girl or a guy as your co-op buddy when you invite someone in," director Alex Hutchinson said in an interview with Polygon. "And it was purely a workload issue because we don't have a female reading for the character; we don't have all the animations," he continued. "And so it was this weird issue where you could have a female model that walked and talked and jumped like a dude."

Hutchinson said he expects this to become less of an issue in the future as technology improves and things are planned out in advance. "We had very strong voices on the team pushing for that, and I really wanted to do it; we just couldn't squeeze it in in time," he said. "But on the other hand, we managed to get more of the other story characters to be women."

"We did our best. It's frustrating for us as it is for everybody else, so it's not a big switch that you can just pull and get it done."

This is particularly notable because of the controversy that has emerged around Assassin's Creed Unity. That game, too, will not offer a playable female character option. Ubisoft technical director James Therien claimed in an interview that including a female would cause the developer's work to be "doubled," a point which has since been refuted by a former Assassin's Creed animator. Ubisoft issued an official statement today saying it will "continue to look at showcasing diverse characters. We look forward to introducing you to some of the strong female characters in Assassin's Creed Unity."

Far Cry 4 has had a strong showing at E3 this week. The shooter offers a new co-op mode that lets players freely explore the game's world together. It also allows you to fly around in a gyrocopter and ride on an elephant. For more, check out the first five minutes of the game in action, which offers a look at the game's insane new villain.

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128 comments
IronBeaver
IronBeaver

I like his explanation of Min vs. Vaas. I just hope it holds up.


bryanhudd
bryanhudd

Ubisoft needs to check their privilage! FIGHT THE PATRIARCHY!!!!!

Hurvl
Hurvl

"it was this weird issue where you could have a female model that walked and talked and jumped like a dude." Walking and jumping like a dude is no problem, because I don't see a "feminine" type of jumping or walking being something worth putting time into creating, but talking might be an issue, if we're talking about voice pitch. Lots of women express themselves in a similar manner to men, using the same words and inflections.

cynicritic
cynicritic

Political correctness is a disease being used to distract you from REAL issues in the World.
And you're all falling for it. 

Want to know a real issue in gaming? Only GTA lets me use a Shotgun to remove the face of a pretty girl... How sexist! :p


This is why RPG games are superior. You create the character you want to play as. And it's no one else's business. 

Now are you a boy or a girl? 

Hurvl
Hurvl

Well, I'm sure glad they took that out. Playing as a woman? In my video game? What will they think of next, having a non-caucasian, not-very-muscular protagonist with a non-raspy voice?

coolbeans1
coolbeans1

Can't wait for the poorly thought out, barely coherent, reaching PC genuflection to come pouring out of the GameSpot staff's word processors. The comments sections are always so much fun.

gamefreak215jd
gamefreak215jd

Well atleast the protagonist isn't some rich,whiny white guy.

meatz666
meatz666

Dude, it's a FPS, you can pretend you're a girl with hairy male arms, can't you? No. Your enemy has to see you as a woman, right... So is this a game, or a social statement?

Man, look what articles like this make me write. Craps like that.

DawnBlue
DawnBlue

And everyone who gives the slightest crap about now being able to play a woman in an FPS game should not be playing games....

JETLI333
JETLI333

Is this seriously what E3 for gamespot is going to be?

LordCrash88
LordCrash88

Tomb Raider doesn't have any male lead characters and here's why: because the content creator decided so.


pwn4science
pwn4science

so where's the article complaining how we cant play a guy in Tomb Raider?

rfrodo
rfrodo

 quote : "We did our best. It's frustrating for us as it is for everybody else, so it's not a big switch that you can just pull and get it done."


Sounds like a microsoft guy talking...Awh well I like Far cry as it is.

Foppe
Foppe

Bullshit excuses.

crushbrain
crushbrain

Quit with these useless stories about women in games already!!!!!! To have a woman in a game means nothing and to not have a woman in a game means nothing. Just make good games. Holy Schmoley people!

kenaddeh
kenaddeh

Why do I feel that a certain internet feminist will come out and use this as evidence of the industry's/community's supposed "hate" of women.

tom2750
tom2750

complains about there being not as many female main characters but doesn't complain about there being way more male "bad guys" that you have to kill no doubt if in most games you were killing women they would claim it promotes violence against women and is sexist but since it's men being killed they are fine with itdirty hypocrites that's all feminists and white knight manginas are hypocrites also why would they have female assassins most assassins throughout human history have been male the average man would make a more capable assassin then the average female

paulo_nb
paulo_nb

Wonder if they'll add it later on as a DLC, I bet it would sell VERY well.

tom2750
tom2750

why would you have a female aren't these games about armed groups and villians and stuff and throughout history those have almost completely been male its no more sexist against women then it is sexist against men for having no male prostitutes in GTA V in real life almost all prostitutes are females and in real life almost all of the type sof people in far cry and any other game they complain about have been mostly male

Billieguy
Billieguy

Why is there such a fuss concerning female characters? It's not like it was an issue before... Tbh many people could not care less about who they play!

wallacom
wallacom

They should just make a vote if you want a female character ingame. I'm pretty sure eventually there are going to be a standard where you can choose, but all in all, not many people care for this. 

10854
10854

They have computers filled with sound effects and even voices of differing genders and ages. it would be a simple operation in fact. 

warriors30
warriors30

I was just playing some good old Fallout 3 and there are females everywhere. Friendly ladies, hostile ladies, and children too. This variety makes the game so much more interesting.

It's a 6 year old game...and here we are, 2014, and Far Cry 4 is yet another sausage party. Lame.

ShadowStar83
ShadowStar83

So they're just lazy? OK. Not a very good excuse, though.

kate_jones
kate_jones

It was lame enough that fc3 had only One, they managed to make her  the "token black guy" also. 


Honestly who cares if the female character was going to walk and jump like a dude, if your the type of girl that can run for hours with the weight of an assault rifle, grenades and a pistol that's probably how you would walk. Don't have to make every female walk through the jungle like they are a Victorias secret catwalk model.


So thanks Ubisoft for telling us you nearly released a Wii-u game annd you nearly made a female character. Cannot wait to hear what else you nearly did.

meatz666
meatz666

And blame Atari too for not allowing you to choose the pink pixel in the 80s. 

anaplussetup
anaplussetup

@LordCrash88 Yes, from the beginning they decided it would be a woman starring in Tomb Raider.


But this is different. They're making it sound like, "Oh, we reeeeeeeeally wanted to, but at the last second we just couldn't."


I mean, they even say that if they'd planned it out in advance then they could've done it. Well, why didn't you just plan it out in advance?


They got caught with their pants down and are trying to cover their asses.

LordCrash88
LordCrash88

@Foppe Actually Ubisoft don't have to justify for their creative decisions...

kate_jones
kate_jones

@kenaddeh You just have to read the comments on any article like this to see the community's hate of women is not "supposed"

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@tom2750  True.  Yeah, GTA is sexist for making all the prostitutes female, where's that amazing Gamespot story?

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@10854  You haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about, especially in regards to making a commercial product that is to be sold for money.

LordCrash88
LordCrash88

@ShadowStar83 Then every other game developer in the genre is lazy as well. Where is the female lead in Wolfenstein? Doom? Quake? Half Life? Metro? Call of Duty? Battlefield?


The reason is simple. It's still a male dominated genre.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@kate_jones  What do you have against men?  I have no problem being a woman in a game and I don't complain if I have to be one, why are you so upset that you have to be a male?

mummacula
mummacula

So are they shark jumping and horse flogging at the same time? A+ for mixed metaphor use.

10854
10854

@freedomzealot Under representation of gender is a real an issue as under representation of race. 

kate_jones
kate_jones

@freedomzealot Now becoming a joke? not when they said mario kart 64 got a 6.4 and everyone would be over it in a week. Or when they fired Jeff for not getting paid off. It's now they made an article about gender equality that you think the sites becoming a joke? 

reacher42
reacher42

@LordCrash88 @Foppe This wasn't a creative decision, the devs said that they wanted to put in a female character it was a business decision which they do have to justify

joshan_p
joshan_p

@LordCrash88 @Foppe "Creative decisions"

kenaddeh
kenaddeh

@kate_jones I just feel this is all bait. For tr0lls and blinkered defenders alike.

Tr0lls will tr0ll as usual, and blinkered defenders will take this as a validation that the industry AND the community hate women.


But when you get to something like Call of Duty adding women to the multiplayer character avatars...how much praise was given unto them? Not much at all. Not even a follow-up article on how this could have been a good first step to equal footing for the sexes, or what they could improve on. Just "Women are in Call of Duty".


- Obviously not saying that's ALL they need to do to curb the standard male dominated aspects of all games, but come on, I'm not going to call every other dev studio a racist, or say they hate ethnicity because nearly all of their characters are white. That would be silly. Wouldn't it?

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@kate_jones @kenaddeh  Most of the actual "hate" come from just a few tr0lls.  Everyone else is pointing out logical flaws in the arguments made in the articles.  Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean that person hates you.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@Thanatos2k @paulo_nb  It's easy to overestimate, since so many people in this demographic made additional user names in the last couple of days, so they can voice their singular opinion as multiple people.

tom2750
tom2750

@kate_jones @freedomzealot having female characters in a game is not gender equality just like if one job field is mostly male for example carpenters is not inequality purposely trying to have female characters or female carpenters is not gender equality, equality is equal opportunity women have the chance to try and become a carpenter if there is much more male carpenters in the world it's because generally speaking men are better carpenters and/or more men are much more interested in becoming a carpenter then women are the amount of women i have seen say they don't understand how men do it waking up at 4 am in the morning to start a long hard day of work i have lost count no doubt many women would quit after 2 weeks or less if trying to do many of the jobs men do that is no sexist that is just the truth they would either be to lazy to get up so early or couldn't handle the long hours or couldn't handle such hard work not all women but compared to men they would be much more likely to quit so no it's not inequality if certain job fields are mostly male men generally work harder then women for there jobs the average "man job" is much more dangerous and much more hard work and has longer hours and earlier wake up times then the average "woman job" and the average man is physically superior to the average woman and just like certain jobs being male dominated is not inequality neither is having male characters do things that were mostly done by males throughout history it's not sexist to have only male assassins in a game when  1) most assassins ever have been male and 2) most gamer's are male yes stats tell us only slightly more gamer's are male and guess what they count people who play angry birds and other mobile and tablet games or people who play face book games or people who play COD and GTA a few hours a week most people who play assassins creed are male probably over 90% of them

kate_jones
kate_jones

@tom2750 @kate_jones @freedomzealot You should look into how paragraphs work, unless that's something you think females are better at. This is a game about a magical machine that works off DNA and sends you back in time. The story is in no way serious. Anyway that was the biggest bunch of sexist drivel I've read today. Sorry for interrupting your perfect white male day.

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

@kate_jones @tom2750 @freedomzealot  Why do you think white males have perfect days?  You are very ignorant and sexist, not to mention insensitive.

And yes, a woman can be bad things.  They really can!