E3 2014: Bungie's Destiny Doesn't Support Split-Screen Co-Op

"Ultimately, you can't build a game to suit every single player out there," Bungie's Eric Osborne says.

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Split-screen co-op was a hallmark of Bungie's Halo series, but the same can't be said for the developer's next game, the multiplayer-focused shooter Destiny. The game won't have split-screen support, not because the studio doesn't like the feature, but because it doesn't fit with the developer's ambitions for the project.

"We're actually not supporting split-screen in Destiny," Bungie community manager Eric Osborne told GameSpot during E3 this week. "We love split-screen. Obviously we have a legacy of supporting it. We know a lot of players love it. We love it. But we really wanted to untether guardians. Even if you're in a fireteam, you can go wherever you want. That level of freedom was really important for us. We know some players really like split-screen. Ultimately, you can't build a game to suit every single player out there."

Though this year's Destiny will not have split-screen, Osborne made it clear that Bungie is always listening to feedback, suggesting that the option could be added to a future installment.

"The good news for us is with a new IP you get an opportunity to set a foundation in place," Osborne said. "You get to see what players do; see what the community loves about it. You get to be reactive. And the reality is we have no idea what people are going to do, what they're going to fall in love with in this world."

Destiny launches on September 9 across the Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. Bungie will launch an alpha for the game on Thursday, and you can sign up today at www.GreatnessAwaits.com/Destiny. An open beta begins July 17 first on the PS3 and PS4, before coming to the Xbox 360 and Xbox One sometime later.

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Discussion

130 comments
kpeppers
kpeppers

As an adult with jobs, kids, and a wife, I have little time to play games and when I do, I look forward to visiting with friends and handing out, not sitting by myself playing in silence. This sucks and eliminates any chance that I'll buy this game. "You can't make a game for everyone." I guess that's true. 

p51ponystang
p51ponystang

For all you game develpoers out there!!! The gaming community is becoming large in the since of multiplayer split screen co-op. Why you ask? The gamers of old are married with kids now. Wake up!!! Entire house of gaming. This movement is here now and will do nothing but get bigger. It is the market that games like Halo, and the Wii U system have on lock down.

p51ponystang
p51ponystang

multiplayer split screen rules!!! For them to not have that makes no sense at all. Now I got to go buy 4 xboxes to play destiny in one house for me and the kidos??? not happening. sucks. Just will wait for Halo 5. In the meantime still have old halo games to play. I have two destiny games on reserved at Gamestop. Gotta get returns done on them and put  money towards The Master Cheif Collection halo 5 beta...

colbster
colbster

Functionality seems to be going backwards. I really would have liked to have a friend over to play without needing 2 xbox ones and 2 TVs. I have a 113" video projector, so split screen works awesome... as long as developers stop to think that there may be socially active people out there who like to have friends over to play without setting up a f'n internet cafe at their house.

96camsteve
96camsteve

Thanks Bungie,


This is the one game that I have been looking forward to for about, what 3 years now?  And without split screen, it is worthless to me.  Why would you ruin what so many of us miss about Halo 1, the LAN parties with all of our friends?  I mean I understand the desire to make money, however this move is going to transition the players that have been with Bungie since Halo 1 to move on to another game.  Not having split screen is going to drive this game into the ground, rapidly imo.

sweaterkittens
sweaterkittens

This is beyond disappointing. My wife and I have been playing splitscreen Halo for a decade and were really looking forward  to this. I preordered last December with the expectation that Bungie would still be Bungie, but I suppose that was naive of me. I'd prefer it if they'd let the consumers decide how they wanted to experience it. 

The_Inebriator
The_Inebriator

Disappointing to say the least. I was really looking forward to this so I could have a new local multiplayer game to play with friends and family, but it looks like Borderlands still reigns supreme. I'll save my $60. Bungie should really take a second look at what solidified their core fan base because they are alienating a lot of longtime supporters with this decision.

tannerjellison
tannerjellison

Ugh...I got this for my xbox one hoping to finally have a use for my second controller. I wanted a borderlands type experience with my girlfriend, that was why I pre ordered. Hearing this is a huge disappointment. I expected more from bungie. Co-op is not playing with a stranger, it's playing with friends. And what is the chance I have many friends that had 600$ laying around and also decided to go xbox and not playstation. I will have nobody to play with other than strangers, which is getting pretty old in battlefield 4. Please. ... fix this, I don't care if you delay the game after the beta. I'm sure tons of people agree but haven't made their way onto this site to say so. I need a reason to keep this xbox one around, a real co-op game would do that for me.

tannerjellison
tannerjellison

Ugh...I got this for my xbox one hoping to finally have a use for my second controller. I wanted a borderlands type experience with my girlfriend, that was why I pre ordered. Hearing this is a huge disappointment. I expected more from bungie.

Battletoads1
Battletoads1

Well, I am very glad that I have two controllers for my ps4 and only one game to play co-op with as of now....please Bungie add the co-op play to the campaign! 

instructedchaos
instructedchaos

The only split-screen game I have for PS4 is NBA 2K14, (and I have lots of PS4 games). It makes me mad that almost every game that comes out doesn't have split-screen. Now when my friends come over I have to switch to my PS3 to play split screen Call of Duty. UGH

animesanity
animesanity

I'll tell you exactly what I'm going to do Bungie... I'm going to skip out on your $400 million game. No Split-Screen is a deal-breaker. Multiplayer is about playing with other people, not the internet. It's about passing a controller to your sibling or fiancé and sharing an experience. It's about attracting a party of rowdy cheering friends. No one should have to buy another console (with the capacity for 8-controller input) just to play with your family or fiancé. For such a smart and capable company Bungie has clearly forgotten what it felt like to have a good multiplayer experience. Playing online with strangers is fine if you've checked the rest off the list first.

This decision was made because people are gullible enough to go out and shell out the extra money... because they don't remember a time before call of duty. Without pressure Devs won't change and they'll keep developing in a way that portions out the game experience based on what you're willing to pay for. More dlc will come out... And less support for local play with people in the same room. This marketing strategy believes that they can get a PS4 or XBOX one in EVERY ROOM of your house instead just every home. It believes that they can extort families into buying the same game several times just to play together.

I'm personally going to wait until MASTERCHIEF Collection drops with Halo 2 Anniversary addition. It's ironic to see Bungie competing with their own work this year... But with GTA V hitting Next Gen and Inquisitions right around the corner there's enough single player fair to tide me over till a real multiplayer game drops. One that I can explore with friends under one roof with one console.

If Devs don't support more than one controller but have the nerve to call their game multiplayer only... They will see no support from me.

mr_gamer_405
mr_gamer_405

This sucks. Is it that bad to make the graphics a little worse to make it splitscreen. Halo does it just fine and it looks perfect. I SINCERELY hope you guys add it in by launch or update it in later. I am not doing another "titanfall". A "titanfall" is a shooting game that has all the capabilities of being split screen but isn't for some odd reason. PLEASE BUNGIE, I know you are a great company that actually listens to its fans. Please put the GAMERS FIRST in this one. I know BUNGIE has never been greedy before, just really hope they don't change now.

Sincerely

All splitscreeners

silentholz999
silentholz999

I cant play with my hubby that sucks.  Glad I'm got the alpha so I know that I wont waist my money.  But what ever happened to SimulView and using your vita via remote play if they did not want to chop up the screen which I think is the real reason.  This game is like a work of art beautiful so why ruin it with a line?


      Because i don't what do have to put 2 ps4s and 2 tvs in the same room just to co op with my hubby in the same room.  with our current set up we would have to use head sets in the same house or scream lol dose not sound fun.

wrophoenix
wrophoenix

This reason for not having local co-op doesn't make any sense to me at all. "Even if you're in a fireteam, you can go wherever you want. That level of freedom was really important for us." You're not giving us the freedom to choose to play on local co-op, so I don't know how that's really freedom, or how split-screen would limit going anywhere you want. There are understandable reasons for not having local co-op, but this is not one of them. If Bungie could expand on this reason, or give another reason, I might be persuaded. For now though I'm just baffled. In addition, not having co-op is like devolving when you have done it before. This seems like a game of innovation, and having split-screen would be a huge leap considering all of the other aspects of the game.

chelsead_lynn
chelsead_lynn

Well this chaps my ass. My boyfriend and I was hoping this was co-op so we could play together being both gamers. Now we have to fight over who's going to play. I was always against online play since the beginning knowing the death of true co-op was eminent. I had hope though with Bungie and Gearbox being good spokesmen with traditional co-op, but now I'm worried again.

sdinh225
sdinh225

Co op split screen would've been nice. I had a blast with the first Borderlands with my brother and friends. If they really aren't doing split screens I'm wondering if Co op will work with PS Vita TV streaming instead since we've got a few big screens in the house.

director59
director59

Everyone I know wants split screen co-op. It is nice to be able to sit home or in the form and play together. Why do you think HALO was such a hit? Bring back split screen CoOp! All you game makers need to be listening!

jonnychamp35
jonnychamp35

jax sedrin: Three people in the reddit thread I linked above (including myself) mentioned how not having split-screen prevents them from playing with their wives.

The gamespot article linked to in the reddit post has three more people saying the same thing.

And four more people in this thread (so far) said it as well.


And that's just husbands talking about how they wanted to use this game as a way to spend time with their significant others, to share their interests with them, which strengthens their relationships.


What about siblings in the same household? What about a parent that likes to spend time gaming with their child? What about friends and neighbors that don't own/can't afford these expensive consoles like we can?


The game is about co-op. Bungie has made that very clear. But when they say "We can't make a game for every type of player", they are really saying "We're only making the game for people that have friends that own the same console and live in a different household."


I've been hyping this game to my wife for several months now. I told her I finally found a game I think we can both really get into other than Halo. I already have a ton of single player games that I try to find time to play without her, but I don't want to have to choose between spending time with my wife and my love of video games. I want a game like Destiny, that I can play for hours, days, months, possibly even years with her, in the same room, and share the experience with her in person.


Please. Bring back split-screen.


That's just one of the many reasons splitscreen must come back to Destiny. Help join our fight.

http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post?id=65349153 

animalmother013
animalmother013

So is there any sense in buying 4 controllers now days?

seanwil545
seanwil545

Two things that would probably help if they don't want to implement split screen.

1) Bring back LAN capabilities to gaming.

2) A discount for those who purchase multiple copies.

It would be pretty expensive to play this way on the PS4 or XBO, but not so much on the 360 or PS3. Not only is today's gaming stripped of options, but they offer no alternative.

LAN parties were the shyte!

zachv1
zachv1


"Ultimately, you can't build a game to suit every single player out there," Well said no purchase for me then

Foppe
Foppe

A real shame.

emerin76
emerin76

Its a shame.  I like to play these games with my wife on the couch.  We've been playing too many single player games lately, swapping turns at deaths...not ideal.

Jab7604
Jab7604

This is kinda why i like Nintendos vision of in home co-op. what happend to bringing friends over and playing games together, now everything is online base. i was looking forward to playing this with my GF, we had great times with Borderlands and since she is a halo fan this woulve been a great game for local co-op.

HYPERTiZ
HYPERTiZ

@Placebo_obecalP After all it is an MMO, a massive world comparing it to Borderlands which is smaller :|

actually I dont know anymore :|

HYPERTiZ
HYPERTiZ

@mr_gamer_405 @mr_gamer_405 Honestly, if they brought the visual graphics down even it looks terrible I would not really care, and would love splitscreen.

HYPERTiZ
HYPERTiZ

@mr_gamer_405

You are comparing an Open MASSIVE world (think GTA Online etc) to a linear and small world\levels (Halo series) comeone... 

HYPERTiZ
HYPERTiZ

@director59 Exactly.

"Everyone I know wants split screen co-op. It is nice to be able to sit home or in the form and play together. Why do you think HALO was such a hit? Bring"

Look at the old days of COD 4 four player spltscreen, That was the good days...

Splitscreen is the only thing that is captivating people to buy it (perhaps even consoles, hell if I had a party, i would be playing COD, (I wouldnt but a point is...))

Splitscreen is a MUST.

I dont care if the graphics has to be downgraded, as long as we can play Couch CO-OP.

DrizztDoUrden16
DrizztDoUrden16

@jonnychamp35 With ya all the way. I have always played shooters and other games split screen with friends, my dad, my brothers, my sisters, nieces/nephews, cousins, and now my wife. I was really looking forward to playing with my son who is to be born in August but who knows if any decent games will keep up with it till he's like 4 and can start getting into it lol. Pissing me off the direction consoles are going, console gaming has always meant split screen to me, I see no reason to ever play a single player game on a console, thats what computers are for.

comb5
comb5

My wife was also looking forward to Destiny. We love playing Borderlands together so this is pretty lame news. Not to stir stuff up but I wonder if they tried split screen and it brought the game to a crawl frame rate wise.

phtyt
phtyt

@jonnychamp35 i totally agree man, I am one who is always looking for a game to play split screen with my wife. I know there are lots of kids out there who dont have real friends who come over to play anymore, but there are also alot of kids who do, and who have brothers and sisters as well as couples who want to play together. In todays economy , responsible families wont be going out and buying two of the same console and two of the same games. Its just not reasonable . The whole " split screen " isnt in demand anymore line is total BS. If it wasnt you wouldnt find so many posts on so many games with people asking the question does a game support it. Bungie really dropped the ball here. The game looks good, it will sell itself. Im rather tired of all the gaming companies, not putting in split screen OPTION in their games.There really is only 1 reason for it , and that is to sell more games. People can use any other excuse they want, its not the truth of the matter. Some say its too hard to make that happen, I call BS on that. Look at COD. Is it the best overall shooter, no . However it always sells in the top sellers, why ? Because its one of the few games that supports split screen. Sure Battlefield is a much better game overall as far as gameplay , however COD isnt a bad game by any means. I see nothing wrong with its graphics ( even though i only play it split screen with my wife) . This is a stronger system the ps4,  i see no reason it cant handle split screen . The ps2 did , the ps3 did ..... so gimme a break gaming companies. For those who dont want split screen thats fine, dont use it , it wont effect your graphics. Personally id be more than fine if i couldnt get 100% of the detail, if it would allow me and my wife to be able to play together, although ive never really noticed the graphics downgrade when playing COD  on split screen from playing it by myself. So honestly i dont even get that "arguement".Im so tired of these companies using BS excuses as reasons to not add it to the game just to try n sell more copies, cause i refuse to even buy it without this option. Been working on it what 8 years now, and still cant put split screen in it? gimme a break Bungie. Without this option i , like others will not be buying your game, so how is that marketing model working out for ya?

CraZkid37
CraZkid37

@jonnychamp35 This is absolutely perfectly said. I couldn't agree more. I have been hyping this to my wife as well since last year and now we are both severely disappointed.

HYPERTiZ
HYPERTiZ

@animalmother013 Unless you play WWE, then nope, im afraid two player coop is a norm :(

except Minecraft.

HYPERTiZ
HYPERTiZ

@animalmother013 Im afraid not, since COD Black Ops 2? It is now two player only,

Hell before that four player COD Modern Warfare 1-2 multiplayer was a damn BLAST!

animesanity
animesanity

So far this generation the most compelling reason for buying extra controllers has been because you have too much money and can't give it away.

animesanity
animesanity

^so much of this! Once, I thought the future of games would be one console two tv screens... And it was a bright future. Then Call of Duty and Battlefield online wrecked all that and we got Kinect instead.

p51ponystang
p51ponystang

@zachv1 Yep no purchase for me had two copies reserved. 4 people in house equaled just two xbox ones and two split screen tv's. That is now ruined!!!

santinegrete
santinegrete

@bossebog  went and registered for this sole purpose. Thanks. BTW Split Screen is wining for like 2 to 1 or more.

HYPERTiZ
HYPERTiZ

@mr_gamer_405 Honestly, if they brought the visual graphics down even it looks terrible I would not really care, and would love splitscreen.