E3 2011: Star Wars: The Old Republic Updated Preview

We take a look at another fancy trailer of the upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game from BioWare.

During the afternoon's EA presentation at this year's E3, BioWare gave massively multiplayer online game fans another treat in the form of Star Wars: The Old Republic. However, the presentation was nothing more than another trailer meant for more hype.

BioWare's general manager Dr. Greg Zeschuck was on stage and talked about the company's past games in brief and how leading up to them offered the chance to work on Star Wars, thanks to LucasArts. He said that the biggest challenge was communicating what the company made throughout the game's long development cycle. He said that BioWare will be showing off raids, Tatooine, and hands-on time at EA's booth during E3.

The trailer opened with two side-by-side narratives; a woman's voice that represented the Galactic Republic and a coarse man's voice that represented the Sith. The Galactic Republic has to defend its home, while the Sith wish to reclaim their ancient home. The trailer also showed off the many locations, like Alderaan and Coruscant from past trailers.

We then saw many jump cuts of Jedis and soldiers representing their respective sides, as well as fighting with all manner of lightsabers, Force powers, and artillery. Single blade, double-ended blades, dual lightsabers, lightning shots from fingertips, flamethrowers were included; both sides went all out with snippets of the Phantom Menace theme scoring the entire fighting montage.

Given its grandiose nature, the trailer was definitely meant to emphasize how big the war between the two factions will become. A release date for the game wasn't given, so fans will have to wait a little longer before the game comes to fruition. The trailer also showed that The Old Republic will make use of the origin.com service that allows viewers to watch and download exclusive content from EA and its partners. Check out our previous coverage of the game here.

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adrian07ch
adrian07ch

I hope it's true that this game will have a single-player story. I will never buy an online game, or one that requires any additional payment.

Gunathar
Gunathar

I have never been so eager for a Star Wars game before... but having to pay a monthly fee for online play IN ADDITION to the game itself (probably $60 CDN/US) is just too much for my wallet even if it's from BioWare :(

Darksec
Darksec

@OldKye - Of coarse ill still get it, just frustrated is all. Cant wait, hence the intense frustration.

colt_a
colt_a

@tachsniper And yet, no where does it say they are focusing on single player. In your source. It simply says that its huge. If you've been following TOR at all, you'd also know they have a multitude of multiplayer content. Flashpoints, Operations, Group Quests, PvP Battlefronts, and Social hubs/capital cities. The single player story is only one aspect of the game. If you want different classes, I'm afraid you won't like RPGs in general. The same class types have been recycled since Pen and Paper RPGs. Even in Sci-Fi games, the classes are going to be the same, not just including TOR. You'll have your Tanks, Melee DPS, Assassins, Caster DPS, Ranged DPS, Caster Support. You can't name an RPG that doesn't have them. So if you want something different, I suggest you stay out of the genre. Notice how I don't have to try to discredit your source to have a civil debate. Like it or not wikipedia is right, or else you would have found something to debunk it by now. Google any source you like. WoW took many years to make, and TOR is merely following in its footsteps. (Disclaimer: This isn't to say TOR is a WoW killer or will become the new WoW, this is merely saying it will be of the same quality due to the quality of developer and time/money spent)

tachsniper
tachsniper

@colt_a At university Wikipedia is not a credible academic source, so if that is your best ammo to support your argument i'm afraid you fail. I love how people say that if you don't like an MMO for X reasons you must not like all MMO's cracks me up everytime. I know MMO's won't have the graphics of the witcher 2, i was using that as an example of how pretty graphics on the PC can get. SWTOR's graphics at least for the player models look circa 2008, they look like LOTRO character models. All the characters in the new trailer were generic, want to impress me? show me a smuggler that isnt like Han Solo, Show me any archetype that isnt like one of the movie characters, SHOW ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT

colt_a
colt_a

@tachsniper I also played WoW for a long time, and read the developer blogs and forums. Wikipedia is right in this case, its just the easiest to site. Especially since threads/blogs 10 years old are dead now. Also, people who like to say wikipedia is always wrong make me laugh. They don't like being proven wrong. Go take your trolling elsewhere.

colt_a
colt_a

@tachsniper Also, you haven't played many MMOs if you expect an MMO to have "The Witcher 2" type graphics. Most single player games don't have that, and NO MMOs do. MMOs are much much more RAM intensive because you are rendering a lot of different environment at once as opposed to preloaded terrain that uses the same textures over and over. You can not like MMOs, that's fine, they are an acquired taste I understand. But just spouting out uneducated "facts" about them to trash TOR isn't helping your case any. They never once said they are focusing on SINGLE PLAYER experience. They've said it 100 times, the focus is STORY. Which if you played MMOs you'd realize that this can be done via group quests and raids, and world events that involve many people. And what does their cinematic trailer have anything to do with the game? I personally liked it a lot, its easily one of the better CGs done in a long time. I was not the only one to do a double take to make sure that smuggler wasn't a live action person. They did a lot of tribute to the original Star Wars to get the fans. And even liking it as much as I do, I know it has 0 to do with the gameplay, like you try to say here.

tachsniper
tachsniper

@colt_a Your citing Wikipedia, your argument is invalid.

colt_a
colt_a

@tachsniper WoW's development cycle was about 5 years. They originally announced it in 2001, came out late 2004 (almost 2005). Blizzard had already been working on the project almost a full year before they announced it. When Bioware announced TOR, they didn't even have the framework of the game made. Their developer blogs mentioned that. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft

tachsniper
tachsniper

@BFE1127 Simple facts, Dragon Age II, Biowares latest RPG was lackluster Bioware up to this point has only ever designed single player games, meaning they have exactly 0 MMO experience. They already have said that the single player experience is first and foremost, thereby eliminating the entire point of an MMO that is to game with other people. graphically it looks about at least 4 years old. GO watch a video of the witcher 2 and you'll see how good PC games look now. Once again it is a IP cash in they are counting on the name to sell. When everyone sees what a disappointment the game it it will be too late. Enjoy your bottle rocket because that is exactly what SWTOR is, you light it, it goes up and you get all tingled with anticipation then BANG its awesome then just as quick as it began the thrill is over. Their latest trailer proves they are phoning it in, Here is how the trailer went, Female A needs to escape from place A, no ships work so Smuggler A (who is as cookie cutter smuggler as they come, complete with western gunslinger moves and hat) offers to get her out on his ship (sound familiar yet?) one lone jedi stays behind to ensure her escape. Duel of the fates kicks in (cause you know its a lightsaber fight and therefore required) a Lightsaber fight ensues which leads to the demise of the jedi protector (still sounding familiar?) Its like Bio ware took parts of the movies and their own trailers and just spliced them together. this was nothing we haven't seen before.

lunaticlord66
lunaticlord66

I am not having an issue with them not giving a release date. But what I am having a huge issue with is the dribble they feed us. It seems to be getting worse, for example, lets backtrack. E3 2009 was an awesome display. They had around 20 robed jedi and sith all walk down to the stage with lightsabers drawn, music blasting, it was just incredible! E3 2010, I was anticipating some cool stuff but all we really got was two develpoers walk out in regular clothes and say "In our MMO... we will have... PVP. You are welcome!" and then showed a trailer. Now... it is 2011 and we have been told for months that the game will be released by the end of the year. So seeing how it is now E3 2011, you should have known without a doubt that these die hard fans were expecting something HUGE since nothing much has been told truely said about this game. If not a release date, something big. But instead we get.. "We are sacrificing our lives and working hard... here is a trailer". THEN the trailer, near the end says "The battle begins" then the music kicks up and the action picks up and everyone is on the edge of thier seats thinking they are gonna give a release date.... and then fade to black. It was a HUGE let down and almost a kick in the balls to the fans. I have always said, "let them take thier time and make a great game". But I figured they would try to release more and get more people involved. I love star wars and LOVE bioware but this recent display was just terrible.

BFE1127
BFE1127

@tachsniper: How is this anything even remotely like Duke Nukem Forever? This game is just in development. Duke Nukem got cancelled completely and was only revived as an afterthought. They have never cancelled this game. The reason it's so difficult for any developer to create a great, possibly legendary, game is because they know that no matter what they do, there's always going to be a guy like you who writes the game off for a ridiculous reason just to make themselves feel smarter than everyone else. I would much rather see them work on this game as long as they have to and get all the bugs out of it before it ships than I would to see them rush it into production like Bully. Then we end up with a horribly broken game that nobody will play past the first month. I get that you want to troll, but at the very least your trolling needs to make sense. I have the utmost faith that Star Wars: The Old Republic will completely revitalize the MMO market the way KOTR revitalized the sagging RPG market. WoW is dying, Blizzard knows it, I know it, anybody that played Cataclysm knows it. They nerfed it into oblivion. I guarantee you there are 20 Star Wars fans for every 1 die-hard Warcraft fan. A Jedi would use the Force to lift Arthas into the air,throw him against the wall, send icicles into his chest and decapitate him with a lightsaber. Duke Nukem will probably pick up a hooker and make comments about how he could "totally do all that Jedi stuff, but he doesn't want to show off..."

BFE1127
BFE1127

E3 made a believer out of me. I'm a Star Wars geek, not on the Trekkie level, I don't have asthma and I spent 7½ years in the Army, but I've loved Star Wars since about 4 seconds after I was born. I was into Battlestar Galactica for those first 4 seconds, things change. But, I'm also one of the 8 people who plays Galaxies and got pretty jaded on the whole Star Wars MMO experience. This one looks like it's going to undo a lot of the damage that was done between Galaxies and that CGI-punk Jar Jar. The one thing that might kill it is the fact that 99% of the people who play are probably going to go Jedi/Sith. There needs to be people willing to be a different class. The Death Star would only float around for a few minutes before stopping if it weren't for Engine Technicians, Droid Translators and Official Death Star Plumbers. That's the one thing that can kill this game within the first year.

GamerJedi29
GamerJedi29

@tachsniper Lol. You cant compare this to Duke Nukem Forever. That game got cancelled, and was latter revisited by gearbox(and it is probably going to suck, unlike this). TOR has been in development for about 5-6 years. They are trying to make the game perfect. If anything you can say it is becoming the StarCraft 2 of MMO's. That game took a while to make but it was awesome wasnt it? I have no doubts that this will be anything short of awesome.

GamerJedi29
GamerJedi29

@AzatiS Actually there have been a lot of in game videos. Just go to swtor.com they have a ton. Or just type in "Star wars the Old Republic at Pax East 2011" on youtube there is a lot of footage that isnt on the official website.

Blackdragon31
Blackdragon31

No more trailers Please Bioware .. Trailers are just hype and Bioware's presentation was very weak

chyng85
chyng85

Good news~ Love the game~

AzatiS
AzatiS

Trailers ARE NOT what we looking forward to see anymore.. PEriod. Where are the lengthy ingame demos , where are the ingame mechanics or where are the ingame world settings? All i see are GCI and promotional videos. This game seriously reminds me the Warhammer online fiasco where they had exactly the same policy... Fixed promotional videos , CGI trailers and alot of blablabla.. Hype alone... This is not a preview... Is a sneak peak CGI..period!

bdiccus
bdiccus

@CarlitosWay No I'm not lost. I know how these things work. It doesn't take a genius to figure when a good time is to promote your product. They were on the international stage and had an opportunity to give the media and consumers a sneak peek into what's been brewing. Instead we get a mashup of old trailers. Don't get me wrong, they're beautiful but as a future player of this RPG I would like to see less smoke and mirrors and more substance. Either way, I'll be on day and date of release getting all the rare loot. :)

Udzija
Udzija

I have been following this game since it was announced and after seeing what BioWare did with Mass Effect 3 on this presentation I just feel like SWTOR was placed behind it. I was really hoping to see something new there and not mix of a new and some old trailers. That intro trailer on official page is really something great and if they had that instead of this we saw I would be a lot more happy. I have to agree wit some concerning this ''release date'' issue, let them work in peace and give us perfect game when it's done. Just look at what Blizzard does, they never give release dates, only say it's out when it's done and I feel that's the way to do it. Just wished this first presentation on E3 was a bit more awesome.

made_u_look
made_u_look

@CarlitosWay Well said, I've been waiting for this game for years and would wait more for a fantastic mind blowing game. I tend to thumbs down those dummies complaining about release dates. I'll play it when it comes I have other games to hold me off till then.

virmire1980
virmire1980

I'm not going to judge one way or the other until E3 is over. I would very much like a date, or a hint, but as badly as I want to play it, I can wait until it's ready. Small reveals in small doses keep people hungry.

tachsniper
tachsniper

@colt_a If i am not mistaken i first heard about WoW in a 2002 issue of Game Informer, it was released in 2004. SWTOR is now going on 4 years, should have been released in 2009 then 2010, now 2011 with talk of 2012. but hey keep holding on after all DNF finally is getting released.

CarlitosWay
CarlitosWay

I think its funny. Everytime we get a high profile game like SWTOR and we get people whining about a release date, we eventually get one much later on. Then, when the game comes out earlier then necessary (due to all the ridiculous hype) the game is unfinished, broken, and depressing. Then, you get the same trolls, sticking their snobby heads out and saying "This game sux. Its incomplete. You shouldve worked on it longer." Go away trolls. If you are REALLY that desperate to play this game and its awesomeness you will understand that all good things come to those who wait, not sit there and B****

CarlitosWay
CarlitosWay

@bdiccus And others who complain about gameplay Are you guys lost? Go to the main website, look at the dozens of videos with gameplay. And if ANYTHING, we must wait till the last day of E3 to see exclusive stuff from TOR.

King_Wii
King_Wii

@rat5112 I totaly agree I was expecting the end of the trailer to have some form of release date on it. Heck Mass Effect had a release date but not SWTOR. Its getting annoying waiting for them to decide when this year they wana launch the game.

rat5112
rat5112

I really was expecting a release date after that whole "you have to play it" speal. Who there are still a couple days left.

colt_a
colt_a

@tachsniper You clearly never followed WoW, or many MMOs in general. Yea, the real crappy ones can be churned out in 2 years, but when WoW was first announced, to the time it released was FOREVER. Coincidentally, WoW was the one MMO with enough content to attract a ton of people, and bring new people into the MMO market. Bioware is trying to do the same. Not to mention, they aren't just cloning WoW like every other MMO is doing now *cough*Rift*cough*. And they are adding in 1000s of hours of VO, etc. Quality product takes time. I will be out within the next year though, that is pretty well guaranteed.

tachsniper
tachsniper

Still no definitive release date? Epic fail, SWTOR is rapidly becoming the Duke Nukem forever of MMO's

OldKye
OldKye

@Darksec until it comes out lol we all need our fix but lets face it we will buy it when it does come out heck i bought ff14 not glad i did but i did and aion and age of Conan heck with ff14 i was a beta tester so i knew it blew at the time but you got to get your fix lol

eyeball2452
eyeball2452

The third new trailer is up at Bioware's site for all the haters. Also, there was another new trailer released last week that previewed all the new game systems that are going to be shown on the floor at E3. Lastly, if you want in game footage, go Youtube it. There's plenty out there, especially after the fansite event. I agree that the game needs a launch date, but most of the comments below are either uninformed or trolling. I don't know if the game will live up to the stupid amount of hype, but there's no reason to bash it just because of a questionable marketing strategy.

Darksec
Darksec

still no release date = loss of interest and a return to other MMo's 4 me

slpr21
slpr21

@DarthVeng_basic because it's 6:20 minutes and they have limited time.

Lothos_Delion
Lothos_Delion

EA's SWOTR bit just totally blew. Should have shown something else. And I just loved how the guy said to just play it.... yeah we would if and when its released.

urbangamez
urbangamez

Great stuff, best press conference so far, game looks great

DarthVeng_basic
DarthVeng_basic

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greendude123
greendude123

I would have prefered a release date tho, especially at one of the biggest gaming conventions of the year

greendude123
greendude123

that 6 min cgi trailer they had was freakin awsome

InuTails
InuTails

I really want to see some gameplay for this.

bdiccus
bdiccus

No game play = very dissapointing. WTF? His excuse? A demo can't possibly describe the size of this game. Maybe not but it'll keep us wanting more. instead we get a hacked up retread of a trailer we've already seen.

spitdog2000
spitdog2000

The trailer was rubbish, I completely agree with CarlitosWay. I really hope Bioware pull thier finger out and release this game soon.

CarlitosWay
CarlitosWay

The trailer was basically a mash up of the 2 previous videos weve seen, and the new one released on their website. Apparently, that new one is the main intro video to the game. Not bad. The lightsaber battle was definitely noteworthy. Im sure there will be ridiculous ground coverage of this game in the days to come. Last time at E3, they showed A LOT on the last day.