E3 '07: Mass Effect & PGR4 dated, Halo 3 touted at Microsoft event

[UPDATE] E3 kicks off with a Halo-themed Xbox 360 and new glimpses of Resident Evil 5, Call of Duty 4, and more; BioWare RPG coming in November, Bizarre Creations street racer in September; full video of conference inside.

SANTA MONICA, Calif.--Last year, those wishing to attend Microsoft's Electronic Entertainment Expo briefing had to negotiate a herd of celebrity impersonators and bodyguards, only to then have to cram into a darkened auditorium. This year, the journey to the Redmond, Washington-based computer giant's game event was much more pleasant. After a brisk walk through picturesque California streets during sunset, visitors arrived at the press briefing's venue, Santa Monica High School.

Already far more pleasant than most public schools, the space was transformed into a Shinjunku-esque maze of verdant neon. Between the ample trees on the ground, every white light had been swapped out for a bright neon one, giving virtually every surface an eerie but beautiful green glow.

After clearing minimal security, attendees were ushered into an open-air auditorium that's design would be unthinkable anywhere other than Southern California. But most people in the audience weren't in town for fun, sun, and surf. They'd come to attend the E3 Media & Business Summit, and to this particular event to see what the first company out of the next-generation gate has up its sleeve.

Microsoft's press briefing comes at a difficult time for the company. Its Xbox 360 has been taken over in sales by the Nintendo Wii, and following increasingly widespread reports of hardware failure, the company recently announced an unprecedented extension on the warranty for the Xbox 360.

After a week of both taking flak and receiving praise for its move, what would Microsoft have in store tonight? Will it announce a passel of new games like last year? Will it reveal more about the ambitious Live Anywhere service? And what about the whole gaming-on-Zune thing, anyway? GameSpot News is on the scene, blogging the event live with all the latest.

[8:30] Loud techno plays, gaggles of industry types exchange pleasantries.

[8:31] There's a band set up to the right of the stage--can we expect some Rock Band or Guitar Hero action tonight?

The view from the top of the auditorium.

[8:32] A voice comes over the PA--the show is about to begin. It politely tells everyone to shut up and sit down.

[8:32] This place is filling up fast! Lights are coming down! Howls of delight issue from the crowd.

[8:33] Five Halo fans from Illinois are being brought on stage. Halo music plays as stars are shown on a huge screen. Camera cranes go nuts over the audience.

[8:34] Oh snap! The "fans" are a band--a lady fiddler backed up by a keyboardist, bassist, drummer, and guitarist. I didn't know the Master Chief liked prog-folk...

[8:35] Fiddler lady is going nuts on stage. It's a Halo hoedown! Yeeeehaaaaw!

[8:35] Lights going ballistic now. Obviously Microsoft has planted a few in the audience for "cheering."

[8:36] Numerous scenes from Halo 3 flash on the large screen as the music and lights come down. Well, that was...artistic.

[8:36] Oh, they're not done! Big finale! Some genuine cheers follow.

And the band played the theme from Halo.

[8:37] Peter Moore takes the stage.

[8:37] Moore: "When they heard the music of Halo, they heard rock!"

[8:38] Moore: "Welcome to the New E3. It's a bit different than last year."

[8:38] "Every demo and game you see here tonight will be out this year."

[8:39] Harmonix takes the stage.

[8:40] Moore is playing Rock Band with Alex Rigopolous. "Let's turn it up to 11!"

[8:41] He's tanking...BADLY. Laughter from the audience. Blond singer trying to be dead serious as crowd cracks up.

Peter Moore on stage...and onscreen.

[8:42] They cut Moore's amp, he was so terrible. But they bring it back on. He's not doing half bad now, and it's cool he's a good sport.

[8:42] "Big close!" Great success!

[8:43] Rock Band will have The Who, The Strokes, Nirvana, and more.

[8:44] New trailer debuts for...Viva Pinata: Party Animals! New party game that's heavy on the Horstachios.

And just a few minutes later tanking on Rock Band.

[8:44] Game is being developed by Krome Studios, according to the trailer.

[8:45] Mass Effect is next--here comes the trailer.

[8:46] Trailer starts--Keith David in the voice-over house! Game looks vastly improved--unbelievably sharp graphics.

[8:46] "Your species has to learn its place!" You think he's the villain?

[8:46] MASS EFFECT COMING IN NOVEMBER!

[8:48] Now comes the business speak. Moore touts the fact that people will spend more on games than on music.

[8:49] 5.6 million 360s sold to date. It has the highest installed base of any console. Since Wii/PS3 launch, $2.4 billion has been spent on 360 accessories, games, and hardware.

The PowerPoint section of the presentation, with Moore showing plenty of stats onscreen.

[8:51] Says 2004 was the perfect storm of gaming with Halo, Madden, and Grand Theft Auto IV. Says three franchises will drive one-third of all sales this holiday season.

[8:55] Go to video montage! Call of Duty 4, Stranglehold, Guitar Hero III, Beautiful Katamari, Lost Odyssey, NBA: Live 08, Mass Effect, Fatal Inertia, Medal of Honor: Airborne, Tiger Woods 08, Ace Combat 6, NHL 08, Assassin's Creed, Spider-Man: Friend or Foe, Simpsons, Splinter Cell: Conviction, NASCAR 08. Eternal Sonata, BioShock, Madden NFL 08, Tony Hawk's Proving Ground, Crash of the Titans, Harry Potter, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Bee Movie Game, Rock Band, and Naruto will all be available this year, apparently.

[8:55] Jeff Bell, Microsoft corporate VP takes the stage.

[8:56] New game--Scene It?, based on the popular board game, will come with video clips in high definition and a new controller.

[8:57] Controller and game "designed for whole family." Game will come with controller and "cost the same as a regular Xbox 360." He also touts Naruto.

[8:58] Trailer for Naruto rolls. Great, if you're a Naruto fan. Otherwise, not so much...

[8:58] (What kind of ninja is blond, anyway?)

The new Scene It? controllers, as seen in Jeff Bell's presentation (bottom left).

[9:00] Bell: "We're bringing the best of entertainment to the Xbox 360...announcing all-new EA Sports titles will "run twice as fast" as last year's games. Brings in New Orleans Saints' Reggie Bush to vouch for that fact.

[9:01] Surprise! Bush is a fan of the 360 and Madden. He plays Bell in Madden.

[9:01] Bush: "I got to watch you Microsoft guys--you guys cheat, man."

[9:02] Bush quickly beats Bell in some "spontaneous" Madden action. Apparently, onstage pawnage of executives is the new black at this year's event.

[9:03] Bell: Now over 7 million Xbox Live users. He jokes, "Only half are here tonight!" (Heyo!) Microsoft now aiming for 10 million users by next year's E3 (assuming there is one...).

[9:04] Forty-five million game downloads from Xbox Live Arcade to date.

Bush and Bell on Madden 08.

[9:06] XLBA montage: Hexic 2, classic Sonic, War World, Sensible World of Soccer, Every Extend Extra Extreme, Wing Commander Area, Track & Field, Spyglass Board Games, Golden Axe, Space Giraffe, Super Puzzle Fighter II, Marathon 2: Durandal, Switchball, Tetris, Puzzle Quest, Buko Sudoku, among others.

[9:06] Original Sonic the Hedgehog and Golden Axe are going on XBLA tonight.

[9:07] On to Video Marketplace. Two thousand hours of content, $125 million spent on the service since launch.

[9:09] Deal with Disney to bring movies to XBLM: Tarzan, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Emperor's New Groove. From Touchstone, the movies include Waterboy, Unbreakable, Armageddon, Brothers Grimm, Bringing Down the House, Coyote Ugly, Primeval, The Queen, and Venus. All available tonight, all in HD.

[9:10] Bell: "All big hits from Disney will from now be available on Xbox Live." Xbox Live Video marketplace coming to Europe and Canada.

[9:11] Xbox 360 Elite coming to Europe on August 24.

[9:11] Microsoft Games Studios head and corporate VP Shane Kim takes the stage, saying, "Everything starts with the games."

[9:12] Touts Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, and Halo 3.

[9:13] Forza 2 is biggest game in Europe, says Kim, before introducing a Project Gotham Racing 4 demo. The game itself is confirmed for a September release.

[9:14] Demonstrators confirm motorcycles will be introduced in the game, with real-life bikes from Honda, Ducati, and others.

[9:15] Demo looks slick. Great lighting effects as bike races through rainy Shanghai streets, popping wheelies.

Riding a hog through Shanghai in PGR4.

[9:16] Cue PGR4 trailer. Staggering crisp graphics as a motorcycle races a car through a snowstorm in the woods and a rainstorm in various cities.

[9:17] Kim back on stage now, touting Alan Wake, Fable 2, Too Human, and Halo Wars.

[9:18] Also reminds world that, yes, director Peter Jackson is still working on a Halo movie.

[9:18] Cue Lost Odyssey demo.

[9:19] Onscreen, an immortal warrior complains about "lifetimes of pain." I think I feel a case of the Quickening coming on...

[9:21] Kim back on stage to announce new Games for Windows with some "familiar faces." Viva Pinata and Gears of War (surprise!) with "all-new content" and a level editor.

[9:21] Enter Cliffy B.

[9:23] Cliffy B. says Gears of War on PC will have five new single-player levels, and new multiplayer modes and maps.

[9:23] Cliffy B. demos a new level where Marcus Fenix takes on the brumak, the giant creature from the Gears of War trailer.

[9:25] It's an impressive fight. Smooth graphics as Marcus pumps the behemoth full of lead. Dom dies (naturally) and just as the brumak is about to fall--he pauses the game. "I don't want to spoil the surprise," he jokes.

[9:26] Moore back in to tout Windows Live for PC. New partners whose games will have Live Achievements are THQ, Sega, and Eidos.

[9:26] Moore also says that the Unreal Engine 3 toolset will soon have built-in support for Windows Live.

[9:29] Windows Live game montage: Bee Movie Game, Flight Simulator, Hellgate: London. Age of Empires III: Asian Dynasties, BioShock, Crysis, Universe at War, BlackSite: Area 51, World in Conflict, Age of Conan, Lost Planet, Kane & Lynch, Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts, Zoo Tycoon 2: Extinct Animals, Juiced 2, Viva Pinata, and Spider-Man: Friend or Foe, among others.

[9:30] Moore back on stage, gives props to BioShock for being PC/360-exclusive, then introduces Call of Duty 4 trailer.

[9:32] Game shows US Marines fighting it out in Middle Eastern country before showing commando raid on rogue Russian forces. Looks like they just shot off some ICBMs. "Moscow in flames, missiles headed our way. Film at 11."

[9:33] Infinity Ward developers get on stage. They've been working on COD4 since COD2 wrapped. One dev promises the studio is "going deep and going hard," eliciting chuckles.

Going deep and going hard with a live demo of COD4.

[9:34] Demo starts. Two British commandos in Ghillie suits take out some sentries. Lighting effects are fantastic, graphics crisp--this is a top-notch production all around.

[9:37] The two commandos infiltrate a building after sniping some "tangos." They run through a field and some woods, then hit the dirt as they approach some foes. A battalion of troops backed up by three tanks is coming right at them--demo is cut off.

[9:38] Infinity Ward guys say the Call of Duty 4 multiplayer demo will be Xbox 360 exclusive. Go to charlieoscardelta.com for more details.

[9:39] From out of nowhere, the Grand Theft Auto IV trailer. Moore gleefully announces both trailers shown so far are running in real time on the Xbox 360. Second trailer, released last month, rolls. What, they couldn't get a demo together?

[9:41] Moore says two exclusive new GTA IV episodes will be released in spring 2008. "The Xbox 360 is the only console where you can get the complete Grand Theft Auto IV experience," he boasts.

[9:41] Moore talking about Japanese support, talks about series debuting on the console for the first time...cue Resident Evil 5 trailer.

[9:42] Very creepy trailer shows zombies running amok in a North African village. Full trailer on Xbox Live on July 26, but this is the one game shown tonight that won't be out until 2008.

[9:43] Moore cedes the stage to Ubisoft's Jade Raymond. Howls of approval from many male members in the audience.

[9:44] Raymond demos Assassin's Creed in real time. Titular killer, Altair, is on top of a Jerusalem rooftop, then jumps down into a pile of hay.

[9:45] The assassin walks through the crowd. To show off the detailed character, he punches out a beggar who slows him down.

[9:46] Altair then kills someone and flees the scene with some fancy acrobatics. He escapes into a building only to find it's a trap--four swordsmen confront him.

[9:48] With a flurry of vicious-looking combos, Altair makes short work of the swordsmen, then goes after their leader in a gravity-defying rooftop chase.

Your friendly, neighborhood assassin facing down a guard.

[9:49] The chase goes through the streets of Jerusalem, knocking pedestrians out of the way before Altair finishes his quarry with a wicked death blow.

[9:50] Moore's back on stage. Comparing Halo trilogy to the Star Wars trilogy.

[9:51] Hold the phone! Cue a live-action trailer directed by Neil Blomkamp, the would-be director of the indefinitely delayed Halo movie.

[9:51] Short shows the interior of a USNC weapons factory. Assembly lines make warthogs as space marines suit up in armor.

[9:52] Pelican dropships load up on troops, getting ready for a big battle. If the Halo movie looks like this, I'm already in line.

[9:52] Trailer abruptly ends, leaving many disappointed.

[9:53] Moore then almost causally whips out the Halo 3 console--it's green and gold. [Later, Microsoft confirmed it would have a 20GB drive.]

Live-action Pelican baby!

[9:54] Microsoft also releasing a whole range of Halo-branded accessories to match the console. It will go on sale September 25 alongside the game, but no pricing information is announced.

[9:55] Moore wrapping up, wishes everyone well. "But before we go, let's make sure we finish the fight."

[9:57] New Halo 3 trailer! Earth is in flames. Terence Stamp voice-over shows action aplenty. New enemies--brutes in armor and what looks like flying grunts. Master Chief is hip-shooting a Gatling gun. Cortana looks like she's in trouble.

[9:58] And that's it! Crowd starts filing out...then the fiddler returns!

[9:59] Band tries to convince crowd not to go, but they're piling out en masse, having sat on concrete for an hour and a half.

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haza1995
haza1995

aww man pgr4 is not as good as i expected

boikim
boikim

CoD4 supports Xbox360, It has Halo3, MassEffect, Bioshock (awsome), Motorsport forza 2 (best race car simulater out on ANY console), and many many much more games than PS3 and Wii put together. Also why do you think players can play many games in advance n XboxLive (like CoD4 and other games) which PS3 players DONT get to do. Just the damn truth.

TTDog
TTDog

"lurquor_habit: why the bleeding hell does the sony link on the main page poll go to this page?" To show Sony fanboys what a console with GAMES looks like?

lurquor_habit
lurquor_habit

why the bleeding hell does the sony link on the main page poll go to this page?

Trukero08
Trukero08

I wouldn't say Microsoft is the best. They basically talked a lot of numbers, showed some footage to games we all knew about. Nothing really spectacular. A lot of the games also aren't exclusive to the 360, if Microsoft "dominates" then more exclusive games would've been shown off.

michaelroy
michaelroy

OMFG I HATE GAMESPOT!! What game was he talking about at 9:24????

kylekatarn08
kylekatarn08

I wouldn't say the Xbox 360 dominates every console don't get me wrong I love the Xbox 360 I'm a 360 owner myself but PS3 has alot of good games coming out I also like the Wii. The main reason I got a 360 instead of a PS3 was because of a few select games that were coming out like Halo 3 the new Chronicles of Riddick game but it'd still be cool to have a PS3 anywaz its stupid to fight over it I live with what I've got I didn't buy a 360 until just about 4 months ago. Theres going to be great games for both console coming out this is probly these are the best years for gaming if anything would should be sitting back and enjoying all the gaming goodness anywayz everything looks good at E3 can't wait for Halo 3

Fat_GoldFish
Fat_GoldFish

The 360 Dominates every consle there is and ever has been it won this year's e3 by a long shot! and all of those sony fanboys that say microsoft sucks are just jelous because after they bought their 8 billion dollar ps3 they went bankrupt and couldnt afford to buy a 360 so dont cry sony fans maybe someday when the next microsoft console comes out you can finally afford the 360 when it is obsolete and everyone hates it, but for now keep on playing your crummy ps3 and the 2 good games that have come out for it!

marco245
marco245

Dominates every console... Hmm, that's a new one. I have a PS3. I did play the Xbox, so dont think that whining bout facts I havn't gathered myself. First off, Microsoft are comparing sales to 2 consoles that were released like a whole year after the xbox. Considering that the Wii, for example, has over half the sales of the Xbox360, and that's only over 6 months into production! The Xbox does have a great lineup of games, but it's all "same old". I mean, apart from better graphics, what does Halo have the the previous games doesn't? Also, the Scene-it game for Xbox... Reminds you a lot of Buzz, don't you think? Looking at the Sony press confrence, they have many more features and intenet applications. Home, LitteBigPlanet, SOCOM Confrontation, and many more.They've also got some of the greatest gaming franchises on it, like Gran Turismo, MGS, and Unreal. Sony have got it covered, it's plain sailing for them. Well, at least their console lasts longer. The Xbox has the reliability of a mayfly. My cosin got had an xbox, got the Red Ring of Death, got it replaced (after a lot of hassle with Microsoft) and after 3 months... It happened again! They're fedup, so they're egtting a PS3 now. The Xbox is just some advertisement campaign for Halo3. When people get bored of that, what next? I never minded the Xbox before, infact i liked it, but seeing the amount of hype for one game! (Halo3) and the lack of exclusives, I am gravely dissapointed with what they've become. I was expecting a lot more. Just become another money hogging gimmick of Microsoft, just one of Gates' puppets...

CitizenOne
CitizenOne

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AndysInsane515
AndysInsane515

X360 dominates every console...iono how ppl do not see it when its in there face...the future is microsoft....i gotta give it up to nintendo for the classics...but its a new era...n we dont want 80GB or 60GB for $400545616110651....the confrence was delicious =D

R3DN1N3
R3DN1N3

Already reserved the Halo 3 legendary edition, and I have just came back from reserving the Bioshock Collector's Edition....life is great. Call of Duty looks promising now than it did the 1st time I saw it and from what I read here, a big chunk of these game are hitting this year. Next month Bioshock, the month after HALO! Whooooo!

Bansheesdie
Bansheesdie

Microsoft defiantly could have done better

Trinimom
Trinimom

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batosaims
batosaims

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Rakuho
Rakuho

lol. i t's funny that all those people who were critical of the 360 or praised the PS3 on these posts recieved negative ratings. are the fanboys bitter after MSs mediocre E3, Flame on!!!

TTDog
TTDog

Microsoft will save all the big new game announcements for X07, they seem to have worked out that E3 is pretty much for showing whats coming out this year rather than just showing loads of CGI trailers and saying... "Just you wait... this'll be good in October 2008... just you wait." If they announce a load of new stuff at their own show they won't have to share the limelight with other less well selling consoles that are full of broken promises.

starlannaidu
starlannaidu

Does not matter which console YOU own. Its all about the games at the end of the day. We are all individuals remember, and we all have different preferences, I love games, we all love games. Its like everyone has forgotten what games are meant to be and that is FUN!

Blazenglory
Blazenglory

A press coneference is exatcly is what it is, a CONFERENCE. So people who complain about the "show" aspect , stop complaining. Someone also said that what's the point of having all these games is none are good. Well unless you are a fortune teller you won't know if they are good until they come out, And considereing how much MS is pushing out dollar wise to work with esteemed game creaters, then I'm guessing most of these games will be superb. And anyone who tries to disprove XB360 because of the 3ROD, please stop. Yes we ALL know about the problem, but MS is making a big ammends to ensure customer satfisaction. I doubt that this problem will put an end to the system as fboys say, b/c if we look at history I'm pretty sure the PS2 had a bunch of problems as well but still came out on top for it's own time. Each conference was different. Nintendo stressed it's unothidox gameplay and it's "hope" as the future. Sony presented anything that is in the works (despite how long off until they come out) and some more features, and MS did there right now campaign making anyone who saw these games not have to endure the test of time for too long for all will come out this year. Or at least they say.

ollie_sr
ollie_sr

CALL OF DUTY 4 is going to be the best game based on Modern weaponry yet.

Geek-God
Geek-God

Im Definately most excited about fable 2.

thespyhunter86
thespyhunter86

I'm really stoked about Too Human, Mass Effect, and Bioshock.

wlcm2atl
wlcm2atl

does PS3 have any exclusives left?

Jurgatha
Jurgatha

Would people stop putting "M$." It just makes you look retarded.

Tommi88
Tommi88

i agreen with GonLee30. There are alot of good excusive titles to the 360 not just Halo even tho im kinda looking forward to play it its not the game im most hyped about i'm more hyped for Fable 2 its gonna kick some serious ass!

bonethugX-KRN
bonethugX-KRN

gonlee30 im glad you proved me wrong in a positive way instead of a typical f-boy like ( halo rox, u idiot , sonys dead, long live MS )

GonLee30
GonLee30

bongthugx-krn stop smoking so much weed you sound crazy.Mass effect,Fable2,PG4,are some exclusives that are not from sony that sold me on a 360.The thing that worrys me is 360 not having much past mid-08.No I'm not a MS fanboy either I just calls em like I sees em.MS is all about right now.Wii will get you Mario,Zelda,Metroid till you die,. . .and its cheap.Anybody notice Smackdown on the wii looked like a ps2 game.Sony is all about whats next.Problem is I think there are missing whats going on right now.

parmesanhorn
parmesanhorn

why the today's poll sony-link direct here?!

bonethugX-KRN
bonethugX-KRN

only exclusives besides GOW that are good on MS is the ones they had to steal from SONY ( and dear god dont say halo ) Halo is just a standard FPS. NO im not a SONY or MS or Wii fanboy. I own all 3

tidus200381
tidus200381

How much longer can microsoft go on whit its consul, I have an XBOX 360 its my second one the first on ends up whit the ring of dead ( three red lights) and i have a PS2 , PSP and a PS3 , Im not a fan but i tell you that PS3 works very fine in comapre whit the 360 I have turnd on my PS3 for 2 days when i was playing resistance but my 360 after 5 hour of gameplay ( Lost Planet) even whit the nikon attached fan turned into a brick.

shinian
shinian

That part when he showed the Halo3 x360 and no one clapped was hillarious:D

RedPanther95
RedPanther95

Bioshock is a Microsoft exclusive landau492. Halo 3 will probaly come out for PC later on. PGR 4 is an exclusive too.

darcwake
darcwake

I am sorry but as an owner of both the Xbox 360 & Playstation 3. Playstation 3 is a much better console. I am saying that even though I had Xbox 360 for 8 months longer than PS3, AND have 16 more games for the Xbox 360. Microsoft console cannot compete. Go Wii & PS3!

landau492
landau492

microsoft needs more exclusives

bamaman92
bamaman92

Thought it was okay. I am a Playstation 2 and PSP owner (so I am a playstation fan) but I am okay with Microsoft. I have to say though that the only game I saw that was REALLY out there and great looking would have to be Halo 3... other than that it wasn't very interesting for me.

bamaman92
bamaman92

Thought it was okay. I am a Playstation 2 and PSP owner (so I am a playstation fan) but I am okay with Microsoft. I have to say though that the only game I saw that was REALLY out there and great looking would have to be Halo 3... other than that it wasn't very interesting for me.

jameeler91
jameeler91

mgreener get outta here and o yea xbox360istruth u said COD4 twice

ElCallejero
ElCallejero

MS>nintendo>sony =) loved this even though i missed a couple of mintues from the beggining keep it coming ms

mgreener_34
mgreener_34

im a 360 owner and also a Sony fan, and I realy am not impressed in what M$ is bringing to the table...The RPG's are amazing and alot of us 360 owner arent talking about enoughf :P Oooo and who cares if they have more exsclusives!!! If they all suck, why would it matter?

dr_slim2004
dr_slim2004

it was actully kind of embarrasing when he pulled that out lol to say the least.

dr_slim2004
dr_slim2004

I like xbox360 but scene it is such a rip off of buzz ohwell.. good game line up.

_synapsid_
_synapsid_

Haha, omg cant friggin wait for RE5!!!

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

Schreek the game on PS2 is an entirely different version. The only thing it has in common with the XBOX 360 version is the title. GS gave it a 4.4 and totally trashed it(Rightly so). The XBOX 360 game got a 9.2 for it's improved revision .

Schreek
Schreek

Wow AngelsongCA, what are u doped up on, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter is not not a Microsoft exclusive. im playing it on a ps2 right now

igl
igl

Wish the black edition would have fixed the consoles flaws (noise, overheating). They still won the console war imo. But good line up compared to N and S***