Dragon Age II vanishes from Steam

BioWare's fantasy role-playing game no longer available in Valve's online storefront as Legacy DLC launches.

Crysis 2 is a confirmed casualty of EA's ongoing dispute with Valve, after the game was pulled off of the digital distribution platform Steam. With rumors circulating that Battlefield 3 will also be skipping Steam, it appears as if the BioWare-developed Dragon Age II has now been pulled from Valve's online service.

Dragon Age II is no longer for sale through Steam.

As of this week, Dragon Age II is no longer available on the Steam storefront. It is unclear why the game has been removed from Steam, and EA, BioWare, and Valve had not responded to GameSpot's request for comment as of press time.

However, perhaps not so coincidentally, today also marks the release of Dragon Age II's latest downloadable add-on, Legacy. When discussing the dispute as it pertained to Crysis 2, EA's David DeMartini objected to Valve's strict control over post-release involvement in a game.

"We take direct responsibility for providing patches, updates, additional content, and other services to our players," DeMartini said, and so insist on being allowed to "establish an ongoing relationship" with customers and contact them to inform them of new patches and available content.

"Unfortunately, if we're not allowed to manage this experience directly and establish a relationship with you, it disrupts our ability to provide the support you expect and deserve," DeMartini continued. "At present, there is only one download service that will not allow this relationship. This is not our choice, and unfortunately it is their customer base that is most impacted by this decision. We are working diligently to find a mutually agreeable solution."

The friction between EA and Valve comes as the Portal 2 creator increases its push into the free-to-play, microtransaction-supported gaming market, both with its own games and third parties. When Valve announced the plan, it required the sale of all in-game items and content to be handled through its Steam Wallet virtual currency program.

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deathguardian08
deathguardian08

EA has been going downhill anyways. I love Steam, and I would rather not clutter my computer with multiple programs to organize my games. If EA wants to remove their games from Steam, fine, I just won't buy them; unless this program of theirs is incredible, I get the feeling that 10% they've been losing is going to increase or stay the same now that they're alienating Steam. Good job EA, let's cut the small fanbase you already have.

Unholy123
Unholy123

Said it before i'll say it again... EA will never get my online business they tried to charge me shipping and handling on Mass Effect 1 digital download and it came with a code telling me I could only use it 3 times to install the game... I have never used a worse service then EA onlines store. Honestly the fact I can't get EA games from Steam is no loss to me as very few of their releases are anything I want, Crysis 2 is terrible COD clone that killed the sandbox nature of the series, Dragon Age 2 reminded me of "Another 48 hours" in the sense it was rushed, used a ton of recyled scenes, and was made entirely for the money.

PeterDuck
PeterDuck

ok I get it. EA wants to establish a strong STEAM-like service now that sells EA only titles. I guess they don't want paypal to make a 10% interest off of every purchase and they don't want STEAM to get small revenues off of every EA game that is purchased through STEAM. I say "fail" to that. Dead Space 1,2 is next. Only a couple of weeks ago STEAM was selling both games for $30 if I remember correctly.

Richardthe3rd
Richardthe3rd

Thanks for removing it from Steam.... now EA, would it be possible that you could erase this abomination from recent history?

magnumsworld
magnumsworld

Neither company wants to APPEAR greedy, so neither company is saying much. EA has shown itself to be very greedy for a long time now. Valve... I've not seen dollar signs in their eyes yet, but their entry into the [NOT*] Free-To-Play games arena has me reconsidering. On the one hand, I can understand seeking a payoff for hosting game files, on the other hand, demanding exclusivity is the kind of thing greedy entities do. I care because I can't stand companies that only look to get as many of my dollars as possible. It shows a lack of priorities. Going hand in hand with such greed is invasive DRM, Atrocious privacy policies, in-game advertising, High priced DLC, lack of platform/digital content provider choices. (EA is guilt of ALL of that!) *NOT: Because to be fair, only cosmetic items should have a financial charge, and what FTP game limits the fees to only cosmetic items?

gsmull
gsmull

Let's see here. The reason I started using steam originally was that it bundled some kick-ass games that I really wanted (namely the half-life series) and made them portable to boot. My steam account has now outlived 3 or 4 of my PC platforms. The fact that all of these other companies wanted to use steam to get me to buy their games at a discount that I would not have otherwise bought off the shelf was a nice bonus. Steam has been seemlessly handling the downloads and patches of all of my games for years and I am fully aware of how many hours of work it has saved me. Now if one of those companies wants to make their own platform and pull their products off of steam, then they certainly have the right to try it. They will have a tough act to follow, so they better make sure their service is of the highest quality. There are a few bigger problems for EA, however. For me to be motivated to sign up and download their new gaming platform, they need to make a number of games that I simply have got to have and put them on there. They really missed the boat there with DAO, as that would have been the game to launch Origin with. I have to wonder if I how much I will be dying to download DA III or Mass Effect 4 or battlefield 3. Perhaps the SW Old Republic would be that kind of game. For the platform to be successful they need to improve the quality of their most popular games to "must have" status at a time when that quality seems to be going in the opposite direction.

EtherUnion
EtherUnion

Next "The Sims 3 vanishes from Steam" LOL

Royial20
Royial20

God I hope SWTOR doesn't require Origin to play. That right there will halve customers right there.

EtherUnion
EtherUnion

Yay Origin!!!!! uh.. wait... Origin.... BETA??!

circus2050
circus2050

Whata fudge is Origin?? There can be only Steam!! I guess I'm bonned 'cause I bought the Legacy dlc and it wants patch 1.03 and Steam will not patch the game anymore and I can't use the patch from Bioware site 'cause my game is from Steam.Now will see if EA actually gives a damn about the customers 'cause they shoud come up with a patch that will work with Steam version of the game but I doubt that they will do something for us.

bokela
bokela

Dragon Age II had no place on Steam in the first place! Really dumb game and even worst console port :)

velcroboy
velcroboy

EA and Steam can both kiss my a..

Pyro978
Pyro978

I just dont see what the problem is here....Valve should just let the other companies sell their own in-game items.....basically valve is trying to make them pay service charges.

airshocker
airshocker

I was just playing DA2 not five minutes ago. Nothing seems to be amiss. I really hope I'll be able to get new patches.

santinegrete
santinegrete

Anyone knows what happened to the steam users with their pulled out products? I don't know, since I didn't own any of those and clearly didn't read the EULA. If the tear me appart from my Dead Space game I'm gonna be mad and get a hook in ma' hand and an eyepatch.

DKant
DKant

" it required the sale of all in-game items and content to be handled through its Steam Wallet virtual currency program." Oh boy. Valve and Steam are fantastic but they are no Apple/App Store. I doubt they'll be able to force EA or any other publisher to use and ONLY use their own in-game purchase system. This is going to be a long, excruciatingly boring haul. Come on Valve, loosen up on this. That said, EA's argument that they want to manage their updates and content patches etc by themselves, supposedly for the users' benefit, is balls. The great thing about Steam is everything is automated and seamless. If there had to be a 'separate' process for downloading updates, patches etc it would be unmanagably messy and would make Steam ANOTHER layer of inconvenience between me and my game, rather than the smooth (largely) gateway it is right now. Besides, if rolling updates through the 360 or PS3's update service does not hurt EA's 'relationship' with customers in any way, then how does Steam?? This is the problem with an open platform (like the PC), everyone wants to protect their own ego/turf, and squeeze that extra 2% of profit per transaction - (most of which EA might not have gained had there not been such an easy to use service in the first place!) and we users get shafted. Nice job EA *slow clap*

Frosty192
Frosty192

@DarkAngeles It actually does. Activision is corrupt greedy bastards, EA is pulling all of its games from steam to promote their shotty dl program. There ya go.

demonic_85
demonic_85

Not really surprising as EA is trying to make their games exclusive to Origin. I say they're just shooting themselves in the foot.

DarkAngeles
DarkAngeles

@Frosty192 I don't see how that would have anything to do with the subject.

Mkherkzen
Mkherkzen

Something tells me Crysis, DA and BF are just the beginning...

Frosty192
Frosty192

EA, have you and Activision been sleeping with each other?

sambob530
sambob530

I was going to get BF3 on the PC, but now it looks like I'll be sticking with getting the PS3 version. EA really does p*** me off, I think they're worse than Activision really now. They charge you for an online pass, then expect you to pay even more for DLC. Honestly, why do they need this money if they lasted so long without it? It's like it's some willy-waving (excuse the expression) contest with Activision/Blizzard to become the biggest company in gaming. Well, they've already lost my support, on PC anyway, no matter how awesome BF3 turns out to be.

ziproy
ziproy

Sorry EA but there is only Steam. Look at Microsoft's Games for Windows, see how well that worked

DP1130
DP1130

I LOVE Steam. Every game I have purchased installs quick, runs smooth, and installs updates automatically. In short makes playing and installing games on PC less of a wrestling match. EA is becoming one of those companies I can't stand. I truly believe if EA would frikin disappear, the industry will improve dramatically. I don't believe a word the dude in the article said. EA does not cater to it's customers like claims. In fact if EA actually listened to it's customers, they might actually be a company that don't make ya nauseous.

milannoir
milannoir

Wow... Looks like there's a lot of games I'm definitely not going to buy in the near future... Nice move, EA. Don't count on me installing Origin.

Cowbie
Cowbie

Does anybody really believe EA's excuse. They're trying to push their new manager before SWTOR comes out, as it will be exclusive to Origin. They get nothing out of cooperating with the competition. Let's just hope no other companies decide the gamers need yet another manager to deal with. If I had the choice of having only one client, it would be Steam because Origins TOS are ridiculous.

jamyskis
jamyskis

@BloodMist: To call it a copycat version of Steam is doing Steam a disservice. I'm not really much of a fan of Steam - I use it as a necessary evil - but Origin is an absolutely appalling service. I've already tried it with existing Sims 3 and Dragon Age Origins retail keys and it is slow, clumsy and user-unfriendly. The Origin user agreement stipulates that EA reserves the right to remove games from your account within two years (not just from the store) and completely ignores legal requirements in just about any country except the United States. I personally don't like being railroaded into using any service. If EA thinks that I'll bend over backwards to play Crysis 2, Battlefield 3 or Dragon Age 2 - they can think again. I know where to draw the line.

wurdmann
wurdmann

We all knew this would happen with Origin. There is no way they would have their own digital distribution and still work with Valve. Too bad, I greatly prefer Steam and will probably miss out on some EA games that I would otherwise play. I really don't want to see every publisher start their own digital distribution client. My computer is cluttered enough as it is.

raptures330
raptures330

@Carc That is not a riddle at all. At all. There I was reading comments when I found yours and thought "Oh yeah! Riddle time! Engage brain!" and I read your post. That was just a question. Not a riddle at all. I am disappointed man. It is likes this: Riddle me this. Why wasn't your riddle a riddle? See? That didn't work either because it is just a question. Damn. So excited...then BAM... nothing. You should be ashamed of yourself.

urbangamez
urbangamez

I support EA's position, they are directly responsible to customers for any game they produce, if there are problems with quality of the game, I would want to complain directly to the producer, not to third party distributor. I hope they work this out with Steam and both companies get on with the business of providing great service to customers.

Taffelost
Taffelost

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raahsnavj
raahsnavj

EA and Origin are going to be the reason I quit playing their games. I'm not going to manage yet another online storefront to play games on my PC. The fact my ME2 got gimped and tied to their service is bad enough...

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

@Zenphic They will find a solution; EA distributes Valve's disk versions of their games. Doubt they want to loose such a big costumer.

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

And with your negative votes you confirm my previous statement ;)

majere613
majere613

The patch support for DA2 is abysmal- can't auto-patch (at least, the boxed version I have can't) and the DLC has to be bought through a very clumsy system. The daft thing is, the launcher happily tells you about DLC, and there's no reason it couldn't be made to do this when the game is launched from Steam. Ah well, I'll keep buying game discs for the time being. At least then I don't have to wait hours for my dodgy broadband to dl the thing.

Zenphic
Zenphic

So, EA wants more control of how they manage patching and downloading DLC for the their games? To me, that sounds fine. Look at how Blizzard handle their games, and it works. Obviously, it would have been better if EA was doing that from the get-go or that they found a solution with Valve.

DigiTM73
DigiTM73

Had a look at the price of games on Origin and they are expensive. Asking $79.99 for the digital download of Dragon Age 2 is a ripoff. Maybe EA would rather have there games free to play by other means which can't be discussed. After all EA don't want to sell me there products on Steam, and I refuse beta products such as Origins on my main computer.

Dawg9000
Dawg9000

EA doing what it usually does and demands bullcrap. They broke the TOS with Steam and cried about it. It's like when they threatened to pull PS3 support because of cross game chat.

Dawg9000
Dawg9000

EA doing what it usually does and demands bullcrap. They broke the TOS with Steam and cried about it. It's like when they threatened to pull PS3 support because of cross game chat.

Tanares
Tanares

I miss old 90's EA, when they were more about the games and less about greed.

topsemag55
topsemag55

@DanielL5583 Nope, because when he started the company he was really cool about games - he sold directly to gamers back in the 1980's when they were making games for the old 8-bit PCs. They made awesome games for back then, like a pinball construction set and chess with animated pieces shaped like monsters and wizards. Brand-new ideas back then.

01-cannon-mpc
01-cannon-mpc

This realy iretates me! So basicly insted of solving the problem like civelised peopel thay whine like little girls and remove dragon age 2!? I mean WTF!? This is so imature and stupid of steam to act like this. So steam is basicly punishing gamers because thay are crying like little girls over that EA wants to handel the DLC and add F2P games to steam!?

PcGamingRig
PcGamingRig

wow, those wishings wells almost never work...

01-cannon-mpc
01-cannon-mpc

Omg wtf is steam doing!? Why are thay whining like little girls when EA wants to support the gamers with DLC and varius stuff!? The only thing steam have to do is upload it to there site. EA will handle the rest. So wtf is the problem!?!? This is so efin childish!

firehawk998
firehawk998

When EA had bought Bioware I really stupidly thought that maybe EA had learnt its lesson from the Westwood fiasco and wouldnt try to set a strict deadline or at all interfere with the project. Looking at DA2 which was a quick cash grab based on a great game Dragon Age : origins I am wrong. Steam already has 45+million users if EA wants to make a loss on their titles. Best of luck to them.

DanielL5583
DanielL5583

@topsemag55 But he was the founder of EA. Even so, wouldn't you still want to punch him in the face?

Born_Lucky
Born_Lucky

I lost respect for Biware and EA, years ago, and this is just one more reason for staying far away from both of them.

Carc
Carc

Riddle me this: Why does Origin.com sell Valve games like Portal 2 and Left4Dead when they don't seem to sell games from other publishers AND the two companies are having this little fight?