DICE Vows to Continue Fixing Battlefield 4 after Battlefield Hardline Reveal

"Introducing Hardline in no way means we’re done working on Battlefield 4," says DICE boss.

Poor EA probably isn't too chuffed about the way Battlefield Hardline has made its way into the public eye, having to both preemptively confirm the existence of the game this week and then sit back yesterday and watch, probably while screaming, as a seven-minute video leaked its way out of loosely guarded internet pipes.

Battlefield Hardline, then, is a cops and robbers themed spin on the Battlefield series due out this year, being made by Dead Space developer Visceral Games. But some concerned series fans are now worried that EA is going to stop supporting the perpetually-troubled Battlefield 4 in order to make way for its new title. DICE boss Karl Magnus Troedsson has taken to the game's blog to say that this is not the case.

"I want to be sure you all understand that introducing Hardline in no way means we’re done working on Battlefield 4," said Troedsson. "Nothing could be further from the truth. The Visceral team is leading the development of Hardline, while the DICE team continues to drive BF4. We are committed to giving you the best BF4 experience possible."

Troedsson detailed some of the things that DICE is cooking up in its Swedish offices, presumably while coding away on its favourite brand of well-crafted flat pack furniture. These include a "major update" to the Battlefield 4 netcode, which the last time I played was still a bit wonky, an expanded version of their community test environment, and a bunch of new, completely unspecified features.

"The games we develop are services," concluded Troedsson. "We focus on taking care of the games post launch, delivering new content to those of you who want it and always working hard to increase quality of play. We also continue to work hard to keep investing in areas where you tell us you see opportunities for improvements and new features."

"Yes, we’re very excited to partner with Visceral on the development of Battlefield Hardline, but ongoing work to refine and enhance BF4 remains a top priority."

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Daemoroth
Daemoroth

How's that whole "No DLC 'till fixed" promise going for you?

Sorry, gave you the benefit of the doubt (And my money), and won't be a willing participant in the BF franchise again, regardless of who's developing.

gunnmetal
gunnmetal

DICE you failed me on ps3 with the controler respons time delay. and now bf4 your still not fixing it. so im done with battlefield. its a shame because ive played battlefield 1 2 and vietnam and even the mod desert combat for years.

aspeckman
aspeckman

I don't feel sorry for BF4 players.  I played the demo, which was crap.  I couldn't believe they would release a demo that bad a few months before launch.  I smelled a skunk, so I opted for a prestige edition of COD ghosts.  No regrets.  I'm old enough not to be a fanboy of any series.  Demo's speak volumes.


That being said, I did pick up a $25 used copy of BF4 last weekend and got a free activation of China Rising, previous owner had not used the code....  So, I really paid only $10 for the game itself.  In my opinion, that is all the core game is worth.  I have noticed the bad net code, the flat textures, other bugs....

After playing it for 20+ hours, I still like the game.  I actually like the toned down graphics.  BF3's dirty goggles, sun in my eyes, glare,  etc, really was getting to me.  I like the clean graphics of COD Black Ops II, which for the size of the maps, BF4(xbox 360) is sort of like.  Yeah, still playing 24 player max on the 360, but after having watched the youtube videos of 48 player matches, it was just too crazy. 

So, for the money, I am pleased with BF4 overall.  I'm not dropping one more dime on it though.  EA should be ashamed for having released it unfinished.  When I saw this Cops/Robbers battlefield, my first thought was "they are going to ruin battlefield". 


Gazmeister83
Gazmeister83

I never bought it anyway because I heard how bugged it is. Won't buy Hardline either because it'll probably be the same story with that.

BigBadBanther
BigBadBanther

I would like to see Dice fix my copy of BF4 :( I smashed it to bits after constant freezing and binned it. 7 months and the game still needs fixing, what a joke!!!

Kalifornia
Kalifornia

Translation:  EA is happy to take your money any way they can.

IronBeaver
IronBeaver

"The games we develop are services," 

You know what games should be? A product. Get the frak over yourselves DICE.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

This is just a joke that continues to write itself.


DiCE, you simply have NO integrity or credibility left.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

They're lying.  They'll do the least minimum support possible until the next one comes out, then run for the hills.

ArchoNils2
ArchoNils2

They can talk all they want, they lost me as pre-orderer. The last 3 (!!!) Battlefields I preordered on PC caused several problems. Not going to buy your crap unless I know it is in a working state

spacecadet25
spacecadet25

They should have done all this fixing before the game was even released, put it off for a year and actually make it a solid game.

Techtroll
Techtroll

They've been claiming this since release in November and nothing! The netcode/tickrate is still garbae! 7 months later and their trying to fix it on their cte beta program for PC. Meanwhile it's been 3 years and they still can't fix the metro ceiling glitch. People that pre order/buy this game are just helping EA rush more buggy unfinished games. 

randomkidlol
randomkidlol

Continue fixing games after the next one has launched? That's bullshit. Just looking at EA's back catalog, its pretty obvious that they abandon the games once the cash rolls in.

Rooten
Rooten

Once and for all....this is a duplicate comment I did as a reply but here it is for EVERYONE!


Hardline is not from DICE, it's from Visceral..so there is chances that it is not bug like BF4 was. DICE = Dev and EA = publisher, so the game is not from DICE so stop it about the BF4 stuff! And YES BF4 is still fu*ked up and everyone is still playing it like I am,  but BF4 and Hardline is not from the same Dev Team. DICE is going or try to fix BF4 and Visceral is working on Hardline.


And I'm sure, people crying about I won't buy any BF game again, I know at 95% of you guys are still going to get the game and cry again because you love to cry and give some crap comments on gamespot. Lots of people did cry about BF3 (less bug) but they still purchase BF4 and still complaining.


=)

asmoddeuss
asmoddeuss

"ongoing work to refine and enhance BF4 remains a top priority." Battlefield 4 launched in Oct 29, 2013 and it's still broken.


We need to boycott EA and Dice so they stop launching broken games, why are we still ignorant and give them our money ? when will we learn ?

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever

I expect Hardline to fail in sales big time after the BF4 debacle.  I bet it sells half of what BF4 sold.  I like Dice but I cannot believe the game is still not fixed 100%.  It's just so wrong in so many ways!

Dilandau88
Dilandau88

I learned by the hard way by buying BF4 at launch. I truly love that game, and have had a lot of fun with it... but don't think I'm falling for it again. Probably going to sit Hardline out, or at the very least pick it up long after launch. 

charlesswann
charlesswann

If this was indie game, game 'journalists' would have burned down the developers house.

R4gn4r0k
R4gn4r0k

Oh, that's nice, continue fixing on a game when the sequel has already launched.

Razor10000
Razor10000

i will never buy bf4 because lock on weapons ruin the game for me but people that bought bf4 deserve a working game without all the bugs and problems.

dcsentient
dcsentient

BF4 is still the best multiplayer FPS out at the moment, despite the bugs. The Naval Strike maps are insane, never felt so pinned under fire as I do in a Rush fire-fight trying to take the ridge on Operation Mortar. The bugs sucked, no doubt, but I'm honestly happy with my purchase.

bruta
bruta

is bf4 still pay2beta stage ?

keep milking the muppets

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

Have no interest in Hardline whatsoever because of the disaster of the BF4 launch. BF4 was my first and last pre-order associated with EA.

collingtonuk
collingtonuk

I suppose it makes sense for EA to give development of the next battlefield game to someone other than DICE, i wouldn't trust DICE to code my satellite box to record the world cup, let alone another game.

For me the best thing that could happen is if the core talent of DICE left and made a new studio away from EA and aimed a bit lower and then let battlefield and DICE die.

adamjd31
adamjd31

why? cause ea pushed bf4 out the door? in my opinion dice is the only company that, while has had many buggy launches, delivers tge best war games. Also the only company that actually gives your money worth of add on content. Been playing and growing with bf since bf 1942.

Deamon59
Deamon59

@Rooten let me stop you right there. i can't speak for everyone else, but you can be DAMN SURE im not getting the next battlefield game without thoroughly making sure it's not fcked. As for hardline, im not even remotely interested in it, relative to the interest i had for bf4.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@asmoddeuss 

At this point, the best way to drive EA into bankruptcy and liquidation is to simply stop buying their products on a MASSIVE scale.

We must accept our responsibility for their continued existence, and stop enabling it.


EA needs to be brought down.  Period.  They will NEVER be a good company again, and they cannot be fixed. Period.

Rooten
Rooten

@CrusaderForever Hardline is not from DICE, it's from Visceral..so there is chances that it is not bug like BF4 was. DICE = Dev and EA = publisher, so the game is not from DICE so stop it about the BF4 stuff! And YES BF4 is still fu*ked up and everyone are still playing it like I am, but BF4 and Hardline is not from the same Dev Team. DICE is going or try to fix BF4 and Visceral is working on Hardline.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@R4gn4r0k its not a sequel. in fact its nothing like battlefield. its heist based like payday 2. its more of a spin off.

Techtroll
Techtroll

@dcsentient CS GO has real tournaments...bf has eso which is a joke in competitive gaming 

numbes
numbes

@dcsentient many would argue battlefield3 and 2 are better this is good news anyhow avoided the turd that was bf4 now they have started milking and i grow weary of bf3 i can uninstal origin and feel free 

Rushaoz
Rushaoz

@bruta So you're the type to hate on something because it's popular. How original. I hope that coming onto the gamespot comment section and spilling your drivel makes your day better, dude. Seriously. 

chippiez
chippiez

@spartanx169x I don't understand why people pre-order.  Wait til launch day, check the reviews and comments.  If problem, don't buy, If no problem, buy.  It really is that easy.

Rushaoz
Rushaoz

@spartanx169x Still the best and most fun FPS at the moment. Titanfall would have taken the crown if it didn't get boring and repetetive in less than 30 hours.

Rushaoz
Rushaoz

@collingtonuk It's EA's fault dude. Not DICE. There's bound to be issues with a game this technically complex when your studio owner is forcing you to build and release the game within a 2 year development cycle. 

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@Rooten 

It doesn't matter who publishes it.

If EA has their hands all over it, you can expect the same result.

What do they have to do to finally get the public to realize they DO NOT CARE about putting out products of any quality.  All they care about is getting your cash.

Once they have it, they move on to the next debacle.  If the previous debacle was severe enough, they shut down the studio, put all the talent in the street and look for another company to feed on.


Rinse, Repeat.


It has to stop.

chris230990
chris230990

@Rushaoz So you're the type to hate on a hater, i hope this makes your day better, seriously.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@Rushaoz @spartanx169x 

Half Life, a game that is nearly 17 years old, is far better than this game could ever be, far better made, and after almost two decades has stood the test of time.


Modern day shooters are absolutely pathetic compared to classics made in the 90's.


Nothing but bro-laden, multiplayer twitch fests for the terminally ADD.

numbes
numbes

@Rushaoz @collingtonuk dice do not escape blame at all the problem was know from bf3 and they did nothing for bf4 but make it worse

aliafterhour
aliafterhour

@chris230990 @Rushaoz so you´re the type of hater hating on a hater hater?
 don´t take everything so Seriously, I´m allready having a better day :)

Rushaoz
Rushaoz

@TheWatcher000 Well, good thing that's YOUR opinion. 


First off, you're comparing apples and elephants. Just because the game's perspective is in first person doesn't mean they can be compared. By your logic, I guess I can compare Tribes and Amnesia. Right...


Half Life 2 is in my opinion the best SINGLE player FPS of all time. Multiplayer FPS? No. Not at all. 


Go back into your time machine and play Doom. You are the type of person that cannot evolve as time goes on. Like those old farts that sit on the porch yelling at all the kids and their rap music. 


Good luck with all that screaming and yelling. It will get you nowhere. 


Also, bro-laden? If you assume every MP FPS is played by "muscle head bros" you're every bit as ignorant as your initial comment makes you seem. GTFO you mook.

collingtonuk
collingtonuk

@numbes @Rushaoz @collingtonuk Exactly, EA had a major part in the mess but so did DICE. They have consistently failed, just about every patch and all releases from them are a buggy shambles since they started releasing games. They have not improved over the years but got worse. There must be some talented people there, they need to get away from the car-crash reputation that DICE has now.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@Rushaoz @TheWatcher000 

Oh, did the little bro get his panties in a wad?


First of all, who was screaming and yelling, my petulant little d.ouchebag?  All I did was make a statement and an opinion.


I'm so sorry if it ruffled your ape fur to the extent you had to puff out your big o'l bro-chest and start throwing your feces everywhere in protest.


You are the kind of person who is nothing more than a punk kid who acts like he knows everything, but is completely dismissive and ignorant of history.  I know you think you're smarter than all of the older gamers, and that's fine.


Hopefully once you have lived in the world a tad bit longer you'll realize how stupid you sound now.

You see, the point you are missing here is that over the past 10 years or so, the shooter genre, with VERY few exceptions, has devolved into something very generic and pedestrian.



As for Half Life 2, it is a fantastic game as well, and ironically, far better than COD, Battlefield, Titanbro, or any of the other modern garbage you play, because you're just too cool for old school.

And yes, those three games I mentioned pretty much ARE bro-havens, and the ignorant one in this case, is you.  Perhaps you are one yourself, and are offended at the label.  Boo Hoo, cry more.


The Half Life Multiplayer was amazing, challenging, and far better than the crap of today. Funny you should mention Tribes.  I never imagined a little whelp like you had ever heard of the game.  Other classics of the 90's were better as well.  Quake, Unreal, and even Return to Castle Wolfenstein in 2001.


As for me getting TFO I will say to you what I say to every primate-brained punk who wants to toss around empty internet toughness online.  How do you propose to make that happen?


What are you going to do, little bro. sit in front of daddy's big boy PC and insult me to death?  Are you going to come to my house and teach me a lesson?


Here is what is going to happen.  I am going to say whatever I want, whenever I feel like it.  You are going to #deawithit like the little bitch you are, and there isn't a single thing you can do about it.


Now, I'm sure you'll toss some more insults and brobonics at me, which will be ignored, but hey, you're welcome to it, because you have to have your little Internet victory, right?


Now, as for your "mook" comment, I know you were trying to sound all edgy and say something that has impact, but I have a feeling you don't even know what the word means.


Here, let's have a look at the definition:


Mooks are archetypal young males(teens-early 20s) who act like moronic boneheads. They are self centered simpletons who live a drunken frat-boy lifestyle(or are frat-boys). Examples can be found anytime someone watches "Jackass." 

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but this would pretty much describe YOU, and the ilk you no doubt hang out with in your oh so intellectual circle of fellow primates.


Besides, since I am a female, the word wouldn't even apply.


Now, you go change your diaper, and when you're done you come back and compose your blistering comeback, full of out of place urban slang and empty d*ck swinging.  I'm sure it will be fascinating.